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Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on October 02, 2013, 11:06:42 AM
It's October so time for the annual speculation on what new gems Wingnut Wings will surprise us with in time for Christmas  :)

Any time from now to mid November is a prime release window for them so who's guessing what we will get and most of all, what unannounced surprise kit will they launch this year?

One of my picks for a surprise release is a Fokker E.V/ D.VIII, simply because the Vintage Aviator has made one and everything TVAL does seems to become a WNW kit too. Just guesswork, but if true add a Be2c into the mix!!  :)

Having just started a 1/48th DH.5 kit I just know Wingnuts will now produce a 1/32 scale version!

Anybody want to venture a guess on the 2013 releases?

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 02, 2013, 11:52:32 AM
This time of year is always very exciting when it comes to Wingnuts. Bearing in mind that next year is the anniversary of the start of WW1 they could be holding back on a few kits to release them as an anniversary special, but my thoughts for this year are as follows.

Salmson 2-A2 -  very much on the cards as being released this year.

Bristol fighter (late) - just a revamped kit but new all the same

DH.9a (late) - another revamped kit

Fokker E.I and E.IV - been talked about for quite a while so could be possible for this year.

The AEG and a Sopwith Camel should be next year, I hope.

I have no idea if there will be a surprise kit this year, if there is one I don't have a clue what it could be, maybe the long awaited figures. I would dearly love to see a Be.2.

Whatever Wingnuts release this year the kits will be greeted with great enthusiasm and multiple purchases will ensue.

Des.



Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 02, 2013, 12:14:03 PM
Well, if the surprise kit is a Dolphin, I'm in.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 02, 2013, 12:57:30 PM
 A Junkers D-1 would be an interesting addition to the family, as would a Fokker D VIII. A BE-2 would be interesting; have lots of wires and be green.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tony Haycock on October 02, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
A BE2 would be on it's way here so fast the box would catch fire!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on October 02, 2013, 03:37:23 PM
Maybe they will surprise us all by offering the figures that are announced to be "under development" since WNW started business!?

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 02, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Fokker DR.1
 ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 02, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
I guess they will release the Salmson, the DH-9. ( Late), and one other surprise....as they did with the Hannover last year.
I guess the surprise will be ....a  &@#%€$!

I look for clues in Ronny Bar's profiles website, as he has done all of the profiles for the WNW instruction booklets up till now...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: FokkerFodder on October 02, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
I'd love another seaplane, like a Short Admiralty Type 184....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Gisbod on October 02, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
Commercially, I can't see the logic of not having the ones that would appeal most to the mass market - Dr.1/Camel/Nieuport 17/28 etc.

It would also draw more people in to try the more eclectic aircraft. As much as they have to be praised for their non-conformity - a 1/32 Gotha bomber instead of a Fokker Triplane is just an odd decision commercially. I'd be interested to see the overall sales figures - I'd stake a bet on the D.VII selling many more times over the sales of an AEG/Gotha..

I'm sure us guys love the less common aircraft - but we can hardly be described as a large community? We're kind of a niche market..

But maybe they're not in it for the money?

Ps this isn't a criticism of Wingnuts - just an observation!

Guy

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on October 02, 2013, 07:40:47 PM
I'm with Oberleutnant Buckles and Captain Gisbod on this one.

Please let it be a Fokker DR.1 (get out your red paint) or a Nieuport 17.

Anyone have a photo of a captured Nieuport?

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 02, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
Roland C.II & Halb CL.II are both screaming to be depicted in this scale. The Roland is such a cool looking plane with many interesting schemes. Fisch scale decals! Same goes for the Halby, think of the fun doing the spatter camo!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 02, 2013, 11:02:43 PM
Look, I know that there's absolutely no hope whatsoever and everyone is making super, much more realistic and commercially viable suggestions ... but just humour me. I would love to see a Farman MF.7 Longhorn or the MF.11 Shorthorn. We're covering the first year of warfare here, and so such epic encounters as Mons and the Marne, and the transition from unarmed to armed aircraft.

There. That feels better. Best go and lie down again!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 03, 2013, 12:36:37 AM
I'd wager that those fellows like myself who are casual WWI builders are always pleased when WnW releases one of the more well known aircraft. In my humble opinion, I think WnW have done a good job thus far in catering to those who build nothing but WWI and those of us who are dipping their toes in the water, so to speak.

From my perspective, I hope they release a Camel, Dr.I, Nieuport etc., interspersed with more exotic aircraft that will appeal to the dyed in the wool WWI modeller. We all get what appeals to us in that manner, and with the more well known aircraft kitted, hopefully that will go some distance in attracting new blood to the hobby.

Just my two cents.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on October 03, 2013, 02:27:48 AM
Any Taube will be absolutely fantastic! I suppose this is happening just in my dreams thou
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on October 03, 2013, 06:13:32 AM
I hope they do the Dr. 1 and Camel as part of another "Duelists" package.  Roy Brown v. Von Richthofen.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Procopius on October 03, 2013, 06:20:55 AM
Perhaps a Dr1 and a resin figure set of Australian AA gunners.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on October 03, 2013, 08:27:59 AM
I would like to the BE2c and BE2e.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 03, 2013, 09:05:26 AM
A Be.2a would be excellent.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 03, 2013, 11:59:15 AM
This ,of course my opinion/guess.
Known pending releases that will come out for Christmas:
1. AEG
2. Fokker E IV
3. Salmson

As for the Surprise releases:
1.SOPWITH CAMEL ( yes they announced they were working on it but we have seen no Mock ups.)
2. Sopwith Dolphin or Strutter
3. Fokker EV ( The only Fokker not done by a Mainstream ( AVIS not withstanding) Company.

RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Rob Hart on October 03, 2013, 12:03:09 PM
Voisin III
Aviatik D.1
Hanriot HD-1/2
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on October 03, 2013, 12:14:37 PM
Some wonderful ideas and subjects floating around now, and some strong commercially viable contenders among them.

My speculation of possible surprise releases based on TVAL projects is pure supposition but look at the TVAL project list - Fe2B,Albatros D.Va, Fokker D.VII, SE5a, Sopwith Pup, Sopwith Snipe, Sopwith Triplane, RE.8, Bristol F2B.... starts to resemble the WNW catalogue doesn't it?

On that basis a Be2a and Be2c and a Nieuport XI Bebe and the Fokker E.V/ D.VIII would qualify and TVAL was also instrumental in the completion of a flyable DH.5 replica.

With regard to the long-promised WNW figures, my guess is they will appear as part of the much-promised Special Edition kits and in that regard I would not be surprised to see a Special Edition LVG C.VI and/ or a special edition of the Hansa Brandenburg W.29 as surprise releases. Both are OOP and commanding high prices so a special edition with extra PE and decals, figures etc would find a ready market.

The DR.1 and Camel are my pick for Christmas 2014 releases and a "dogfight double" packaging is almost inevitable.

Also, given WNW's love of two seaters a Roland C.II must be a contender for surprise release sometime.

The Mastercard has been oiled in readiness for use soon  :)

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia



Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 03, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
IIRC, the DH-9a is slated for "Special Edition" release also. Given the early war period hopefully (respectfully) observed, a couple of additions to the early war line-up would not be out of place. I'd like to see a SPAD 7 also.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on October 03, 2013, 11:46:35 PM
It' all been said but for the sake of the WNW staff hanging on to every word we post - EV/DVIII and please oh please a Dr1. The only problem with the latter is if it doesnt come with instructions on how to build a house out of 300 WNW boxes - cuz I'll need somewhere to live after I buy said 300 Dr1's.......

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 04, 2013, 03:13:35 PM
ok i have to say ANY ww1 aircraft made by wnw would be spectacular, and i would most likely add it to the mound. but cmon guys, a dr.1. honestly one of my favorite aircraft. i have built several in 1/48 and 2 in 1/32(i have 4 in 1/32 unbuilt). i'm not saying theres nothing wrong with it but the roden 1/32 dr.1 is damn decent and makes a sweet fokker tripe. i just think that its more important to kit things that havent been kitted in 1/32 or the present kit just sucks. the avis e.v/d.viii is a good kit too.we dont need one as bad as other things. personally i think it would be more relevant to kit the be2 series if were gonna bet on tval projects. but my personal wishes are for a berg d.1, hansa d.1, phonix d.1or2, a dolphin, a roland c.ii, a breguet xiv, or halberstadt cl ii or iv.personally i dont see a point in releasing the e.1 fokker either, its just too similar to the e.ii.e.iii. ok i sorta see a fokker e.iv but thats still a freakin eindecker. if they wanna do a german monoplane do a taube or a pfalz a.1. just my opinion and of course i would buy a wnw dr.1 but i hope they do that one in 3 to 5 years from now so i can build a few more of these roden/encore ones i have in the stash.

all i'm saying is are we that spoiled that we need a wnw dr.1? all i can say is.....CMON GUYS CMON.  personally the roden kit is a nice little fixer upper of a kit that makes for a fun project. and it looks like a freakin fokker to me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on October 04, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
Nieuports! but that is just me. ;)  I think it will be in the surprise dept.,
a Fokker D.1 or E.V, which would make me just as happy.  Now all I have
to do is learn to wait patiently. ;) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on October 04, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
I would like to see a Fokker D.II, a Hanriot HD. 1, or a Nieuport 11/16 with rocket options.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 05, 2013, 05:54:53 AM


Per some of the above comments, Yes, Gotha and Junkers J-1 do not make economical sense but Thanks to Sir PJ  who wanted them, we get them !  Also ditto the list of TVAl projects so we can look forward to the Dolphin and  a  1-1/2 stutter and N.11.  Gotta agree about the DR-I being a ways off, better that "undone" subjects be produced 1st. With an already affinity for 2-seatrs the Halb. and Roland very likely; to add to the already listed Salmson, AEG,  late Dh-9 and Bristol.  Likewise the remaining listed Fok. E's to be done.

As for my guesses a Hanroit and Macchi M-5 as new announcements to add to previously shown " In Developement" kits.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 05, 2013, 06:09:29 AM
Look, I know that there's absolutely no hope whatsoever and everyone is making super, much more realistic and commercially viable suggestions ... but just humour me. I would love to see a Farman MF.7 Longhorn or the MF.11 Shorthorn. We're covering the first year of warfare here, and so such epic encounters as Mons and the Marne, and the transition from unarmed to armed aircraft.

There. That feels better. Best go and lie down again!

Best wishes
Nigel

I'm with you on those two aircraft, Nigel. Those would be sweet and you can do them in some really cool Belgian markings.

How about an Albatros D.II/D.III?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 05, 2013, 06:58:16 AM
I will be one of the oddballs saying I hope they do not do the DrI as we have a good kit of it already and there are still plenty of subjects available that have never been kitted in 1/32 that would be better served. Maybe do it way down the road when most all of the main types have been covered.

My guess for a Christmas surprise is a Halberstadt CLII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 05, 2013, 03:28:10 PM
i guess you and i are the strange ones. i like the roden 1/32 dr.1. its a fun kit. that seems like a bad move to me buisness wise. now in 5 years when they have done all the others that dont have any 1/32 kit , sure then why not do a dr.1. JMHO
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 05, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
I doubt that we will ever see a Fokker DR.1 from Wingnuts, the Roden kit is very respectable and builds up to be a good looking model, a kit of the Be.2a would be a far better proposition  ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on October 05, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
 You know the long and the short of it is,I really don't care which kit is next in the que. I know it will be an outstanding kit and I'll buy it for the collection. Just my 2 cents.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on October 06, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
Having re-read the question "what will they do" not "what do I want"  Im changing my answer to I dont know.

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on October 06, 2013, 02:07:14 AM
Oh nuts! I guess I will have to join you there, Steve. :-[ ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 06, 2013, 02:25:06 AM
I think of all the responses, yours is the most correct, Steve.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2013, 04:43:19 AM
I think of all the responses, yours is the most correct, Steve.
Cheers,
Bud

Although this answer may be the best, it is not nearly as much fun as SPECULATION  :-X
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LindsayT on October 07, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Speaking of Wingnut speculation, has anyone peered into their styrene ball and divined which kits will disappear and be sold out? I only want to outlay for WnW kits as I am able to build them, so the thought of speculative stash building isn't too appealing. On the other hand, the thought of a kit selling out and then having to go to eBay to pay through the nose for it is even less appealing.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on October 07, 2013, 08:59:37 AM
The two that sold out would never have been my first guesses. I figured the Alby's would go first but then they must have run a substantial # more of them. Im going to stick with , like my next release theory,...I dont know....buy the ones you REALLY REALLY like.

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 07, 2013, 09:17:03 AM
Good point Lindsay! I'd have thought the Albies would be on the endangered planes list, but I'm inclined to think the Fok DVII s are selling well, and may be a contender. I know I'd like a couple more. The Roden Sopwith Triplane has a short fuselage IIRC. WNWs kit is a little ahead of the Roden kit I guess.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 07, 2013, 09:32:45 AM
Wingnuts have assured me that they have produced enough of the popular kits to meet demand, so the Albatros and Fokkers will not be selling out in any quick time. I can fully understand the Hansa Brandenburg W29 selling out as it is an obscure type, I for one had never heard of it before the kit was released, as far as the LVG selling out is probably because it was one of the first kits released and it had just run it's course and it may not have been a huge seller. I felt for sure that the Junker J.1 would be on the endangered list, not what you would call a pretty aeroplane. After the release of the next lot of kits maybe some older kits may be targeted for extinction.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 07, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
If it costs a six figure sum to produce the moulds, once a kit is sold out, surely the possibility could exist for a re-run at some future date?


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 09, 2013, 01:44:23 PM
Dave, my understanding is that once a kit is sold out, it is gone, unless slated for "High-end" selection.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on October 09, 2013, 08:34:37 PM
I can't see why the can't have even the most basic of stock tickers on their website. It would certainly help with making informed decisions as to what kit to buy next because with import costs and VAT they're not cheap. 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on October 09, 2013, 09:00:23 PM
Has anyone thought that this could be the perfect time for WNW to announce something?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1380463_539153169489270_740282873_n.jpg

K ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on October 09, 2013, 11:01:08 PM
RB I agree with the batch production idea but Im sure WNW regrets not producing more W29's. It sold out inside of a year so its popularity or lack there of never got a chance to play out. Did they capture the entire interested population? Is the aftermarket demand strictly because its not available or do people want this kit? Will people buy the "special edition?" Its a niche market so they will really be guessing how they approach the re-release. We are not automatons that just throw money at anything. I missed out on the W29 so I will probably pick up an "S.E." but any of the other upgraded kits that come out eg Alby SE or DVII SE I will probably pass on......but its all just guessing init?

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 10, 2013, 02:42:05 AM
So what happens to the moulds after a production batch then? Are they melted down?

Wish I had bought the Hansa-Brandenberg Seaplane now, but I thought there would be a plentiful supply for years.

Fortunately I bought the LVG as soon as it was released.

I am a slow builder, over nine months now for my Hannover so far, caused by work interruptions and delays due to not having tools or materials available.

In future will have to buy the kits more quickly, even if they have to sit in storage for a while until the time is available to construct them.

Hope WNW have some interesting stuff for us to purchase very soon. :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on October 10, 2013, 04:27:05 AM
Yes the Hansa was on my next to buy list but WNW kept releasing other enticing things before I got there.... Evil!  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 10, 2013, 09:44:36 AM
Well, truth be told, I bought the LVG and Bristol on the chance the company might fold after a short time; I've learned a bit since then! My LVG bought on a fluke is now "collectable". I'll build it sometime, but sort of the same with the W 29, I just thought it was a cool kit. if and when WNW releases any high end kits, I guess we'll see what the price is, and which kits they intend to do.
 Dave, I'm sure the molds are crated up and stored carefully for potential re-use. But I too would like a few more of what is available, but as the budget allows. I'd really like to see some French stuff too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 10, 2013, 10:17:36 AM
This latest list show quite graphically the number of vacant kit numbers, there are at least another 27 kits to be produced so hopefully some of them will be French aircraft.

Des.


32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'Ninak'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa Brandenburg W.29
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'Harry Tate'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 -
32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (Early)
32021 - Fokker E.I
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 -
32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - Fokker D.VIIF
32032 -
32033 -
32034 - AEG G-IV
32035 - AMC DH.9
32036 -
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2/Otsu 1
32039 -
32040 -
32041 -
32042 -
32043 -
32044 -
32045 -
32046 -
32047 -
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 -
32050 -
32051 -
32052 -
32053 -
32054 - Sopwith Snipe (Late)
32055 -
32056 -
32057 -
32058 -
32059 -
32060 - Bristol  f.2b Fighter (Late)
32061 - DH.9a 'Ninak'(Late)


32801 -
32802 - Fokker E.III & DH.2 'The Duellists'
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lyle on October 10, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
I vote for a Halberstadt Cl.II.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 10, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
Bring on the Be.2 - please  ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on October 10, 2013, 10:31:19 PM
   Altho "hope springs eternal" etc. etc. I forecast that a great number of the vacant spots in the Serial/Product # List will be filled by the Special Kit versions of already released subjects. This not only makes good business sense but also could be related to the long delays in their Figures and to the economical use of the very expensive molds discussed earlier.
   I'd be ecstatic to see a Tripe/Camel release however I think it more likely that the Special Versions will dominate the news for the immediate future. Not all bad since I missed several of the two seaters in the past several years. So much to do................so little time and $ in comparison.  ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 10, 2013, 11:49:40 PM
I have to say the reckoning that all the holes in the kit number series will be filled seems a little starry eyed to me. For all we know some of those numbers were assigned to projects that never will get off the starting blocks or fell out of favor, were shelved, or deemed impractical after initial study. If you have ever worked at a company that assigns numbers to projects you know what I mean. Not saying they won't make 27 more kits, but I'd be very surprised if all the holes in the current known range were eventually neatly filled up...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 11, 2013, 12:14:04 PM
Well Bo, i'll add that i'd like to see them holes filled at least a little in the next few years, and at least one of the slots is filled with something big, green(ish), multi-engine, and British. If it takes two years, that gives me enough time to try to stock up on those bloody pricey Gaspatch bits. Damn near two full sets just to do the DH-9a.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2013, 05:17:17 AM
Ok, I am stating my Personal Opinion here but....
1. There is No/NADA/Zero  Chance that the Molds will/would EVER be Destroyed! This is a characteristic of very limited run/low pressure molds. The Molds cost TOO MUCH and are worth even More as an Asset to be sold/rented/re-issued.
2. WNW has Told us that the LVG and or the W29 will be released as a Special Edition. As for the price/Value, the content will tell. How much are people laying out on E Bay for the Original kit? Now think about what the current Average Modeler does: Order HGW Parts, Seat Belts, Wood Grain Decals, Nail Decals, Engine Enhancements , Lozenge  Decals, and if you are into figures...... So if the price is higher and includes a good number of the aftermarket stuff we covet then the price will be worthwhile and probably better than what is being paid on E Bay for the original... JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 12, 2013, 06:49:42 AM
I wonder if the explosion of aftermarket for their kits have maybe made them reconsider the special edition format? Given the huge amount of photo-etch, lozenge, alternate decal schemes, turnbuckles, etc etc maybe they dont see as much need for the special editions?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 12, 2013, 07:51:24 AM
Wingnuts have had the PE sets for their special edition kits made long time ago, the figures have also been produced years ago, new decals are easy enough for them to obtain and they also have PE spoked wheels, so with new boxing Wingnuts will be all geared up ready to go with the Special Edition kits, they will know the right time to release them, could even be the special release for this year.

Bo, your comments have merit, but an interview with Richard Alexander some time ago revealed that they had 50 kits in development, there are only 27 holes in the above list so are we going to see another 23 new kit item numbers appear.

With the Billion plus dollars Sir Peter has grossed at the box office with his first Hobbit movie and another two movies to follow up I'm pretty sure that Wingnut Wings is going to be around for quite some time yet, I hope.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on October 12, 2013, 11:20:06 AM
That's the stuff of happy dreams, Des. :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 13, 2013, 12:19:57 AM
50 kits in development!

Gulp! But maybe that means across different periods? Perhaps the gaps in the existing serials indicate what might be those for WW1?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Rickenbacker on October 15, 2013, 01:09:56 AM
Not earth-shattering news, but here's the Japanese WnW distributor talking about the Fokker E.I, E.IV, AEG G.IV and Salmson 2A2 coming before the end of the year:

http://youtu.be/8eawP3h-ZZE?t=27m58s (http://youtu.be/8eawP3h-ZZE?t=27m58s)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Cirrus on October 15, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
This has been rejected already I believe but a Viper powered SE5A would be very nice indeed (just a few new fuselage parts?)......and a BE2c of course.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on October 17, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
I rather like all the speculation leading up to Christmas.

I have to align myself with petrov27’s comments.  There are some aftermarket additions that are just not amenable to mass market production.  I would include laminated wooden propellers and spoked wheels in this category.  My bet is that we will get special boxed editions with extra decals, photos, cast figures, maybe some medals and extra biographical information about the pilots.
 
A special edition boxing on par with all the current aftermarket extras, unlikely.  More printed material and battlefield furniture, yes please.

How about a nice little flat-pack, muddy field for my Eindecker.

Happy Landings
Steven
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 17, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
I seem to remember reading that the DH-9a had on the order of 200 bits of PE for the Special edition. Can't think of where, but that does seem a lot!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on October 17, 2013, 01:37:49 PM
I seem to remember reading that the DH-9a had on the order of 200 bits of PE for the Special edition. Can't think of where, but that does seem a lot!

I also recall reading something similar as to the number of PE bits for the special edition of the Hansa Brandenberg W.29.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 17, 2013, 02:27:17 PM
Back in Feb '13 James Fahey (Jamo) posted these images of PE sets that were advertised quite a few years ago by Wingnuts,

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aaMlb-uQNow/Ul9krBBV7gI/AAAAAAAAJfc/0wJD6JVP4ws/s1005/special%2520pe%2520x%25201.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hzbpUya63OY/Ul9krLojEfI/AAAAAAAAJfY/wU9mKFnKTnM/s650/special%2520pe%2520x%25203.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aFmizpKS7os/Ul9krVeqnvI/AAAAAAAAJfk/vh6TOJO-AQc/s785/special%2520pe%2520x%25202.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HsZxGoajIY4/Ul9krxF20HI/AAAAAAAAJfo/5NlRoI-s2TA/s1308/special%2520pe%2520x%25204.jpg)

here is the link to the original post   http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=492.120  scroll down the page to read the post by Jamo.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Gisbod on October 17, 2013, 04:47:17 PM

I asked them a couple of weeks ago whether it was worth me trying to hunt down an LVG or would they be re releasing one soon - the answer was it will be released with figures and PE but they wouldn't say when..

Guy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 20, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
Wingnuts are very non committal about anything to do with new kits or accessories, they release them when they feel fit and the first we know about it is when we see them on the Wingnuts website as being available, this is just the way they operate their business.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on October 20, 2013, 11:25:29 PM
As I have 6 unbuilt WNW kits in my stash I take a selfish view and don't mind if there's no releases until mid 2015.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 21, 2013, 05:54:57 PM
I have ten unbuilt Wingnut kits sitting in my cupboard at the moment, I will not be starting one of them until I see what is going to be released this year, there are two kits in particular that I am hoping for and if they are released I will be building them first. It is now the 21st October so it could be only a matter of weeks before we know what surprises Wingnuts have for us, you never know, they may spring a real surprise and I will have to build three kits instead of two. Bring them on Wingnuts, the sooner the better  :) :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on October 21, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
The Fokker DVII's were available end of November last year. Maybe this might mean we need to wait only four more weeks for some surprises (if they repeat last year's scheme, of course).

Anyway, as so many of our fellow forumites i have a stack that would keep me busy for some years, with or without new WNW kits to buy.

Stefan

If only they would offer a DFW CV...  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on October 21, 2013, 10:43:36 PM
Last fall there was a release of the Duelist combo kit in late September, followed by the separate E.III and DH2 kits in late October along with the Sopwith Triplane.  The D.VIIs came along in late-November, followed closely by the surprise Hannover.  Sooooo . . . anything's possible at this point.

Perhaps with the early April release of the D.VIIF, WNW is waiting until November this year for he Christmas releases.  In any event, we'll know soon! 

Cheers,

Bob 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Andi Little on October 21, 2013, 11:51:52 PM
Actually ..... I'm quite worried - seeing as I'm now somehow completely addicted to the darn things.

Must at some time soon try and build one, but I'm getting so much from simply "groking" them: How very worrying.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on October 22, 2013, 03:57:33 AM
Actually ..... I'm quite worried - seeing as I'm now somehow completely addicted to the darn things.

Must at some time soon try and build one, but I'm getting so much from simply "groking" them: How very worrying.

I think they call that "performance anxiety"  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 22, 2013, 04:42:41 AM
"performance anxiety", that's what I am sufferng from too! :P
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on October 22, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
Check out the kit sets link at WW....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 22, 2013, 02:51:48 PM
What?!  The E.I and the E.IV?!  Boy, I didn't see that coming!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 22, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
Ordered an E.I tonight, should be here later this week.

Wingnuts have now given us the option of;

Fokker E.I (Early)
Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
Fokker E.III (Late)
Fokker E.IV

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 22, 2013, 06:57:01 PM
An E.I? Wow!

Anything which throws the spotlight on the earlier years of the war is fine by me.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on October 22, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Since we love idle speculation and reading inscrutable tea leaves, let me try this one:

The box art for the E.IV shows a BE.2 going down---the first BE.2 shown in cover art as I recall.  Perhaps the BE.2 will be the 2013 surprise!  It would fit right in with the Eindeckers.  ;D  I also believe TVAL has built one, and there are those here who have noted that TVAL types tend to wind up in kit form.  Have the stars and planets aligned for a BE.2?!

Just a pipe dream.  We'll see.  I'll be happy with whatever they send our way. :)

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 22, 2013, 09:40:24 PM
A  wild guess - The Hanriot HD.1?  :P

The tension is killing me  :o

Von Buckle
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 22, 2013, 09:53:23 PM
Avro 504K????
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 22, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
This ,of course my opinion/guess.
Known pending releases that will come out for Christmas:
1. AEG
2. Fokker E IV  8)
3. Salmson

As for the Surprise releases:
1.SOPWITH CAMEL ( yes they announced they were working on it but we have seen no Mock ups.)
2. Sopwith Dolphin or Strutter
3. Fokker EV ( The only Fokker not done by a Mainstream ( AVIS not withstanding) Company.

RAGIII

One of my sure bets:  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 23, 2013, 12:27:40 AM
A Sopwith Tabloid, and Baby would fit with the "mold utilization" formula, and I'd be in for a baby  for sure.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 23, 2013, 03:09:31 AM
I am hoping on a Halb Cl2 surprise for Christmas myself.

The Fokker Es dont do much for me but happy for those who have been awaiting those releases!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 23, 2013, 04:38:35 AM
Hello All

I think we can draw some optimism from the fact that WnW  now have four of the early Eindekkers on their books. I had assumed that sales potential meant it likely that we'd just see one. I recognise the overlap between the four may reduce some production costs but I'm now much more confident that we'll see some more of the rarer aircraft appearing which might have lower general market appeal. Hope so!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Galloway on October 24, 2013, 10:35:37 PM
Breguet 14 A/B for the Surprise Xmas release please!

Color schemes, conversions and post war use are endless! A great companion to the Salmson in AEF & French livery also ...........


  Ken
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on October 24, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
Breguet 14 A/B for the Surprise Xmas release please!

Color schemes, conversions and post war use are endless! A great companion to the Salmson in AEF & French livery also ...........


  Ken

Now THAT I would get excited about...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fullb35 on October 25, 2013, 04:06:15 AM
 I to would like to see the Breguet 14 W/ AEF decals to go with the Salmson...now that would indeed be a great Xmas suprise! ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 25, 2013, 01:01:43 PM
Well, I just scored some Datafiles over the week-end, so NOW, I'd like to see a Short sea plane to go with my Baby, and a Voisin or Farman would be really cool 1st gen WWI planes. The Breguet sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 27, 2013, 06:44:17 AM
All I want for Christmas is a B.E.2a - please Mr Wingnuts  ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on October 28, 2013, 01:12:51 AM
I agree with Ken:

This would be one cool kit!  As mentioned the variety of markings alone would make it a good seller, I would have to have more than one, at least three!

Breguet 14 A/B for the Surprise Xmas release please!

Color schemes, conversions and post war use are endless! A great companion to the Salmson in AEF & French livery also ...........


  Ken
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhinocrat on October 28, 2013, 03:59:23 AM
Fantasy football time here, I'd love to see a Roland C.II or Halb CL.II. Remember when they surprised us all with the Gotha?- What are the chances of a Felixstowe seaplane? Probably zero, but we can dream. Back in the real world, I think a BE2 of some description seems most likely at this point. What the hell though, I've got 8 WNW kits sitting on the shelf while I work on correcting my Roden Triphound. And on the subject of triplanes, I can't see WNW doing a Dr.1, as the Roden version is already there, and perfectly fine. I think they have said in the past that they saw no need for a Camel on the same basis...?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 30, 2013, 08:07:34 AM
Final Shipping Dates for Christmas Delivery have been posted on the Wingnuts website, so the Christmas releases must not be far off now, I would say mid November, about two/three weeks away.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chuckt5 on October 30, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
Bring on the Felixstowe!  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on October 30, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
There are two new releases on their website now.  The Early EI early and the EIV.  I don't think I am going to rush out and get either one, but; I know there are many who will.  I am hoping for the Salmson.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: wunwinglow on November 03, 2013, 12:05:20 PM
I'm already way behind the curve with these kits, and that is even with my self-imposed Brit only subjects limitation! Frankly, anything they do will be spectacular, but if it is a Dolphin or a Camel or a Baby or a BE2 or a 1 1/2 Strutter or a DH9 or an M1c or a Vimy, I will be thrilled and depressed in equal measure!

Tim
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 03, 2013, 02:11:55 PM
Welcome Tim! The thrill would be because it's a new subject, and depressed because it would have to be PC-10? ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on November 03, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
Breguet 14 A/B for the Surprise Xmas release please!

Color schemes, conversions and post war use are endless! A great companion to the Salmson in AEF & French livery also ...........


  Ken

   I'm with Ken, a Breguet 14 A/B for Christmas would be a most excellent surprise.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: wunwinglow on November 05, 2013, 10:45:40 AM
Welcome Tim! The thrill would be because it's a new subject, and depressed because it would have to be PC-10? ;)

If it was a Bristol M1c, it would probably be Pc12! Then I'd be thrilled AND thrilled!  Thrilled squared! I doubt if I would be able to contain myself!!

Tim
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2013, 06:27:01 AM
This ,of course my opinion/guess.
Known pending releases that will come out for Christmas:
1. AEG
2. Fokker E IV
3. Salmson

As for the Surprise releases:
1.SOPWITH CAMEL ( yes they announced they were working on it but we have seen no Mock ups.)
2. Sopwith Dolphin or Strutter
3. Fokker EV ( The only Fokker not done by a Mainstream ( AVIS not withstanding) Company.

RAGIII

Two out of my best bets seem to be right on  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 14, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
Salmson?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 14, 2013, 11:34:18 PM
Salmson?

Mike, don't know if the question mark was for me but just in case:
1. The Fokker EIV
2. Salmson 2A2 (Mid December)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: IFF1418 on November 15, 2013, 03:20:24 AM
I agree with Ken too. A Breguet 14! And it has not to be exactly for Xmas. Januari would be fine too.

Patrick
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on November 16, 2013, 04:44:02 AM
I agree with Ken too. A Breguet 14! And it has not to be exactly for Xmas. Januari would be fine too.

Patrick

The Breguet would be my wish too..
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 07, 2013, 07:48:34 PM
Here is the updated list, still 24 gaps to fill.

Des.

32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'Ninak'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa Brandenburg W.29
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'Harry Tate'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 -
32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (Early)
32021 - Fokker E.I
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 -
32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - Fokker D.VIIF
32032 -
32033 -
32034 - AEG G-IV
32035 - AMC DH.9
32036 -
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2/Otsu 1
32039 -
32040 -
32041 -
32042 -
32043 -
32044 -
32045 -
32046 -
32047 -  
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 -
32050 -
32051 -
32052 -
32053 -
32054 - Sopwith Snipe (Late)
32055 -
32056 -
32057 -
32058 -  
32059 - Salmson 2-A2 USAS
32060 - Bristol  f.2b Fighter (Late)
32061 - DH.9a 'Ninak'(Late)


32801 -
32802 - Fokker E.III & DH.2 'The Duellists'
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 09, 2013, 10:08:05 AM


With the AMC Dh 9 , there are now 17 current issues of 2-seaters, considering the J-1 was Kit #1 ,there is more than a slight chance that Sir PJ has an affinity for them. MY guess is that we will see more yet to come.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 09, 2013, 02:02:23 PM
Yes you are right, he does, according to Richard Alexander
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 09, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
Yes you are right, he does, according to Richard Alexander

Then the Roland C.II and Halberstadt CL.II can't be far off ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on December 09, 2013, 02:38:41 PM
I suspect a couple of BE2's at some point and an Armstrong Whitworth AK-8 would really be something....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on December 09, 2013, 08:37:18 PM
Heres my guesses! Just for fun.....

32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'Ninak'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa Brandenburg W.29
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'Harry Tate'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 -Pfalz DIII  32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (Early)
32021 - Fokker E.I
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 - Fokker EV  32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - Fokker D.VIIF
32032 - Hanriot HD1
32033 - Hanriot HD232034 - AEG G-IV
32035 - AMC DH.9
32036 - Macchi M5
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2/Otsu 1
32039 - Nieuport Bebe
32040 - BE2c
32041 - Spad VII France
32042 - Spad VII Italy
32043 - Camel 2F1
32044 - Camel F1
32045 - Dolphin
32046 - 1.5 Strutter
32047 - Albatros DII
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 - Fokker Dr1
32050 - FK8
32051 - Handley Page  0400
32052 - Avro 504N
32053 - Whalfisch
32054 - Sopwith Snipe (Late)
32055 - Spad XIII US
32056 - Spad XIII France/Italy
32057 - Taube
32058 - DH5
32059 - Zeppelin Staaken
32060 - Bristol  f.2b Fighter (Late)
32061 - DH.9a 'Ninak'(Late)


32801 - Camel/Dr1
32802 - Fokker E.III & DH.2 'The Duellists'
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on December 09, 2013, 08:41:21 PM
 :D I especially like 32059 Staaken... A tiny model with about 1.3m span... I wonder who would build it? And additionally, WNW would need to change the size of the kit box.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on December 09, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
He he you cant tell me they haven't at least considered it!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on December 09, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
Hello All

What I'd hope is that with the centenary year of outbreak coming up they'd focus on the airplanes of 1914. I'd just love to see more of the very early stuff - not just a Taube, but something like a Longhorn/Shorthorn too. Some hope eh?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on December 10, 2013, 02:19:41 AM
I second that approach, Nigel!  I'd love to see some Farmans, particularly the F.40.  A Be.2 and a Bristol Boxkite would be pretty cool too.  ;D  On the Central Powers side, how about some early Albatros and Aviatik two-seaters.  And then there's the Austro-Hungarian stuff . . .   ;D

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 10, 2013, 02:50:48 AM
I'll third that motion. It would be pretty cool to see a series of planes released each year that reflect the changing nature of the air war.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on December 10, 2013, 03:47:13 AM
Hi Mike,
That's exactly what I had in mind.

I also think that Bob's list is very appealing.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 10, 2013, 04:52:58 AM
love that list of DrDave lol

I would just add a Halberstadt Cl2 and a Felixstowe....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on December 10, 2013, 05:58:10 AM
love that list of DrDave lol

I would just add a Halberstadt Cl2 and a Felixstowe....

a 1/32 Felixstowe?  That would take up half my garage  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pavlos on December 10, 2013, 06:09:56 AM
2014, 100 Years from the begining of the Great War. We will have the long awaited Sopwith Camel, a Sopwith Strutter, a Ni24/27, and a Be-2c/e. ;)
 My speculations are a Br 14A2/B2 and an Avro504  ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: corto on December 10, 2013, 06:52:43 AM
Indeed, Pavlo... indeed... :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on December 10, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
There HAS to be a Breguet.  No list of WWI aircraft worth building would be complete without it, IMHO..
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 10, 2013, 07:18:30 AM
Bexause next year is the centenary of the start of the war, 1914, maybe we will see the release of some early types approproate for the time period.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pavlos on December 10, 2013, 07:39:08 AM
Bexause next year is the centenary of the start of the war, 1914, maybe we will see the release of some early types approproate for the time period.

Des.

Ok, I've got it Des! What about an FB-5 Vickers Gunbus? The very first allied aircraft to carry a weapon on the field!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 10, 2013, 07:45:15 AM
In this list a SVA would fit better than other subjects;
I'd bet also on some flying boat: HB or a macchi.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 11, 2013, 11:46:49 AM
Yes you are right, he does, according to Richard Alexander

Thanks for the confirmation. As for another 2-seater, a real stretch, IF they ever branch out   the Vought from the King Kong Movie.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 17, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
The latest update with the two new Salmson kits added, 22 more spaces to fill.

Des.

32001 - Junkers J.1
32002 - LVG C.VI
32003 - SE.5a 'Hisso'
32004 - Bristol F.2b Fighter
32005 - Gotha G.IV
32006 - Pfalz D.IIIa
32007 - DH.9a 'Ninak'
32008 - Sopwith Triplane
32009 - Albatros D.V
32010 - Hansa Brandenburg W.29
32011 - Fokker D.VII (Fok)
32012 - RE.8 'Harry Tate'
32013 - Sopwith Pup RFC
32014 - FE.2b (Early)
32015 - Albatros D.Va
32016 - Sopwith Pup RNAS
32017 - Roland D.VIb (Benz Bz.IIIa engine)
32018 - Fokker E.II/E.III (Early)
32019 - Pfalz D.XII
32020 - Sopwith Snipe (Early)
32021 - Fokker E.I
32022 - Roland D.VIa
32023 - Rumpler C.IV (Early)
32024 - Hannover Cl.II
32025 - FE.2b (Late)
32026 - Roland C.II 'Walfisch'
32027 - Fokker D.VII (Alb)
32028 - AMC DH.2
32029 - Fokker E.IV
32030 - Fokker D.VII (OAW)
32031 - Fokker D.VIIF
32032 -
32033 -
32034 - AEG G-IV
32035 - AMC DH.9
32036 -
32037 - Rumpler C.IV (Late)
32038 - Salmson 2-A2/Otsu 1
32039 -
32040 -
32041 -
32042 -
32043 -
32044 -
32045 -
32046 -
32047 -  
32048 - Fokker E.III (Late)
32049 -
32050 -
32051 -
32052 -
32053 -
32054 - Sopwith Snipe (Late)
32055 -
32056 -
32057 -
32058 -  
32059 - Salmson 2-A2 USAS
32060 - Bristol  f.2b Fighter (Late)
32061 - DH.9a 'Ninak'(Late)


32801 -
32802 - Fokker E.III & DH.2 'The Duellists'
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on December 22, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
24 spaces - just enough room for Noops Camels and Dr!'s

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on December 22, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
24 spaces - just enough room for Noops Camels and Dr!'s

Steve

Yep, and an EV also  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on December 22, 2013, 11:27:16 AM
24 spaces - just enough room for Noops Camels and Dr!'s

Steve

You're a mind-reader, Steve.  Exactly what I was thinking. ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 22, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
Surprised they haven't announced more of their future kits on their website as they have done in the past. Currently the list of future releases is the smallest ever for WNW I think? Just one future kit listed on the website and two "late" versions of existing kits?

I am sure they will let us know in time - always anxious to hear what the future will bring though :)

I wonder if many of those open kit numbers/spaces to fill are for the promised "special" edition kits?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on December 22, 2013, 09:59:24 PM
I hope NOT! wouldn't it be beautiful if they're for aal new kits. As far as i'm concerned all additions are available at the moment: Gaspatch turnbuckles, Aviattic lozenge Master Barrels Taurus engines and additions to name just a few. It has started a real cottage industry in itself. i'm rooting for a Short admiralty 184 or a Be2c Happy holidays. :-*
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 22, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
Ha - yeah I would prefer all those open numbers are completely new original kits of types that have not been done before.

I would have to agree that the allure of special edition kits is not that strong for me given the huge amount of aftermarket already available. The kits are already pretty special in themselves...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RichO on December 23, 2013, 12:36:19 AM
I agree with Janh...The after market items are a cottage industry in them selves. I'm sure I have spent more on the am stuff than the kits cost! My Gotha was $150 and I have spent $200 on the am parts. My AMC DH-2 is the same way, and the SE-5a is headed that way. And now with the new Taurus U.III engine, the new Fokker E.IV is climbing in cost. This stuff cost more than drugs for the same effect!! But you gotta love it!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on December 23, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
I'd Love a Walfisch. A Roland C2 would really fire my interest. :D Or a real nice Albatros DII seing as they have one at TVAL now to work from... Now I'd deffo buy that un.

Til then I'll try to work on my stash and hanger queens and the PT's.

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 23, 2013, 01:02:50 AM
I'd Love a Walfisch. A Roland C2 would really fire my interest. :D Or a real nice Albatros DII seing as they have one at TVAL now to work from... Now I'd deffo buy that un.

Yes please. And a Halb CL.II.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 23, 2013, 03:33:50 AM
24 spaces - just enough room for Noops Camels and Dr!'s

Steve
I think I've cracked code and figured out what that next combo pack dual release will be:  Snoopy vs. The Red Baron in a Camel and a Dr. 1 ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on December 23, 2013, 05:56:15 AM
The Halberstadt CL.II not before 2015, Bo ... - You have to finish first your Albatros  ;D

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lorenzo on December 23, 2013, 06:35:47 AM
a Breguet XIV would be great.  One of the most important WW1 planes.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 23, 2013, 06:51:26 AM
The Halberstadt CL.II not before 2015, Bo ... - You have to finish first your Albatros  ;D

Servus
Bertl

 >:(

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3DtFmFfGfQg/TaTIo2ElRfI/AAAAAAAADYk/dXgmRyveIlc/s1600/broccoli.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on December 23, 2013, 09:25:48 AM
The Halberstadt CL.II not before 2015, Bo ... - You have to finish first your Albatros  ;D

Servus
Bertl

 >:(

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3DtFmFfGfQg/TaTIo2ElRfI/AAAAAAAADYk/dXgmRyveIlc/s1600/broccoli.jpg)Had me crying laughing.... but a good point Bertl... goes quiet before the big finger of finish something points his way

Merry Xmush
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 23, 2013, 07:03:35 PM
Found this image while searching for vintage advertisements, same as on the WNW Salmson

(http://www.internationalposter.com/pimages/FRX00597z.jpg)

Artist: Leonetto Cappiello. Date 1912

" Because of the simplicity of his graphics, Cappiello was able to produce nearly 1000 posters in his time and was an inspiration to many lithographers to follow. His work is sought after today and may be found in galleries and museums throughout the world"
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 25, 2013, 07:02:58 AM


Des Thanks for posting, always nice to see the "original" inspiration for markings.

re: the above wishes for new kits, due to Sir PJ's affinity for 2-seaters; imho, a: Halb, Breguet & Walfish are sure fire future releases
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: UFAG on December 25, 2013, 09:17:16 AM
The lesser know aircaft of the austro-hungarian empire....enough refference there..!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: UFAG on December 25, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
Former build on the aerdrome from UFAG
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/43993-hbdi-1-24-part-two.html
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 25, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
i remember your fantastic build of that contact resin 1/24 hansa brandenburg d.1. beautiful work.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on December 26, 2013, 03:08:29 AM
Former build on the aerdrome from UFAG
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/43993-hbdi-1-24-part-two.html
Martin!  It's so great to see you here, my old friend.  Glad you finally made it over.  That Star Strutter is still my favorite build of all time.  Thank you for posting her here.  You're right.  WNW needs to start doing some Austro-Hungarian aircraft.  Refernces abound.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 26, 2013, 01:55:24 PM
That is an absolutely fantastic build and shows the way to depict CDL in large scale (among other things). It deserves its own thread here; not sure what it has to do with "WNW speculation" -- your link is going to get buried I'm afraid, that would be a shame. Please consider posting at least an abridged version of your log in the appropriate category here :)

Merry Christmas,

-Bo
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on December 27, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
I agree with Bo; your build-log of the Brandenburg is a remarkable testament to both your skills and passion for WW1 modelling.

The forum would be enriched by a new posting of your amazing build.

I would also like some options to build aircraft from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Happy Landings
Steven Robson
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on December 27, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
It is a fantastic build and a testimony to the modelers skill and craftsmanship!  It is a joy to pour over the build log and see how he does what he does and the patience to do it.  The Austro Hungarian side of the house is sorely lacking and more kits of those a/c would be greatly appreciated by those of us model in plastic.  It would seem the Albatros would be a logical starting point, but any of them would be neat.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: SteveDK on January 18, 2014, 08:09:52 AM
I’d love to see some 1/32 scale Austro Hungarian aircraft from WNW, such as the OEFFAG Albatros D.III types, the Hansa Brandenburg C.I, the MAG Fokker D.VII and Phoenix D.II. I’d also love it if they made a kit of the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 seaplane fighter. I’m glad I at least ordered the W.29 before they sold out!

Ciao, Steve K.
Title: Re: Austro Hungarian Aircraft from WNW
Post by: rhwinter on January 19, 2014, 01:18:47 AM
Yeh, Steve, your words are mine!
And not to forget the Aviatik Berg D.I! Neither should we overlook the two-seaters like the Phoenix C-.I or UFAG C.I!
And talking about the Austro Hungarian Airforce, we shall not give up hope seeing some of the wonderful planes of their italian and russian adversaries too!
And if they came in versions and with decals of planes used by Airforces of the belligarent old and new nations in the multitude of wars in the years after the Great War would be fine for me too.

BUT: All those will bring most delight to me, AFTER  WNW have given to us a Roland C.II Walfisch!

Thank you for listening,

Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 19, 2014, 01:44:51 AM
Hello Richard

It would be great to see such diversity (ok, well maybe a Walfisch first!),  but I can't help but thinking that to see much appear from the Eastern Front would need a big resurgence of activity from Eastern European manufacturers, who recognise the enormous catalyst provided by WnW and the opportunities presented by the forthcoming centenary commemorations.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on January 19, 2014, 07:18:50 AM
Breguet 14, Curtis Jenny.  I agree, the Austro Hungarian/Italian side needs to be better represented.  Roden could take a cue from WNW and get back into production with some diverse product rather than rebox with different markings. 

Good topic for discussion, but will we ever see these?  Hope springs eternal.

Best

Mark
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 19, 2014, 07:21:21 AM
With TVAL getting a Hanriot HD.1, do you think Wingnut will release one?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 19, 2014, 08:44:34 AM
I am pretty sure that an Avro 504 will be close to the top of the Wingnut list of kits to release this year, I hope so. TVAL has been in possession of an original restored example for some time now and anything TVAL owns seems to be kitted by Wingnuts.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on January 19, 2014, 11:27:12 PM
Hmm yes a list of TVAL aircraft not yet kitted by WNW would be interesting...

Albatros D.II
RAF B.E.2
Avro 504

... What else???
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on January 20, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
Sounds like a fine starting point to me, Bo!  ;D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 20, 2014, 06:34:19 AM
With TVAL getting a Hanriot HD.1, do you think Wingnut will release one?

Sure hope so - one of my top wants is a 1/32 kit of the HD.1....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on January 20, 2014, 08:41:35 AM
"Hmm yes a list of TVAL aircraft not yet kitted by WNW would be interesting...

Albatros D.II
RAF B.E.2
Avro 504

... What else???"

A DH.5 !'d Love to have that in 1/32 scale too :)

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on January 20, 2014, 11:32:10 AM
I think WNW are more likely to produce a kit of an aeroplane that TVAL built themselves as opposed to an aeroplane that TVAL acquired already built. For me that would count out the DH5, Hanriot and Albatros DII. But hey, who knows?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 21, 2014, 08:34:33 PM
What about the cute little Nieuport XI bebe, I don't know if TVAL own it but it is a regular visitor at the airshows.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on January 21, 2014, 10:53:47 PM
What about the cute little Nieuport XI bebe, I don't know if TVAL own it but it is a regular visitor at the airshows.

Des.

Yes please! I'd love to be able to say "Put me down for a couple of the little Nieuports". Yum!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 22, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
What about the cute little Nieuport XI bebe, I don't know if TVAL own it but it is a regular visitor at the airshows.

Des.

Mmmm! Yes please.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on January 22, 2014, 12:39:49 AM
With TVAL getting a Hanriot HD.1, do you think Wingnut will release one?

100% in my opinion.
I would hazard a guess TVAL will reverse engineer the original and knock up a couple of Repos. The kit will follow soon after  :)

Vb
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on January 22, 2014, 01:46:21 AM
ANY Nieuport PLEASE!!!!! ....and of course the EV/DVIII

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: IFF1418 on January 22, 2014, 01:49:04 AM
Yes Steve and a Breguet if possible please!

Patrick
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on January 22, 2014, 04:33:05 AM
What about the cute little Nieuport XI bebe, I don't know if TVAL own it but it is a regular visitor at the airshows.

Des.

TVAL own the Bebe but did not build it. It is an Addems-Pfeifer reproduction from the USA and I think it has a steel frame
Title: And now for something completely different...
Post by: rhwinter on January 22, 2014, 05:34:12 AM
Is WNW's AEG G.IV due out only 2015?
Found this: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.243190089155414.1073741845.187061044768319&type=1
Richard (a little sad)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on January 22, 2014, 07:54:16 AM
Did not see anything about 2015.  I saw that Richard Alexander had stated that they want it right before it goes out, which is good as this is a complex aircraft.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 22, 2014, 08:56:20 AM


With the Sop Dolphin being completed at Cosford any news of any contact with TVAL?WNW.  Can't believe that TVAL has only one picture of one.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on January 22, 2014, 07:06:40 PM
You would think there may be some 1914 aircraft types this year...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kris83 on January 22, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
hello
I'd like to see the Breguet XIV on art box of WNW... but... afraid those guys get a problem with french planes or french history or so on...
so... not realy optimist.
forgive my poor english
 :-\
chris 83
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 23, 2014, 12:32:54 AM
Well, concerning French subjects, they just released the Salmson so there is hope! I would like to see some Italian subjects myself but not much hope there (maybe the HD1)

I think they said way back that they were going to avoid doing aircraft that were already available in 1/32 from other manufacturers - that may have impacted what they are releasing on French subjects? If I recall the following are already available in 1/32 (yes not as good as WNW though):
Spad 13
Spad 7
Nieuports 11, 16, 17, 24, 27, 28

So that has the French WW1 fighter subject already pretty covered in 1/32? I sure wouldnt mind WNW doing a Spad 13 or a N17 though....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on January 23, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
Only Two votes???  :o  That's REALLY hard to choose.  I'd like to see most of those, but after the BE2 and the Roland I voted for, expecially the Hanriot, Halberstadt, Hansa-Brandenburg, Breguet and Jenny. 

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on January 23, 2014, 04:56:47 AM
By voting for Be2, I voted for 2 aircraft the 2c and 2e.  In fact the outer wing panels are already done.  The Fe2b shared with Be2c and RE8 with Be2e.




Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 23, 2014, 04:58:01 AM
Well my votes went for the BE.2 and the Bébé, but the thought of a Walfisch would be so tempting !

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pavlos on January 23, 2014, 06:54:23 AM
Voted for the Be2  and the Avro 504. Com'on bring them out!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on January 23, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Voted for the Be2  and the Avro 504. Com'on bring them out!

Me too...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 23, 2014, 11:40:28 AM
Please bear in mind that this poll is only for fun, it is not an official study of what people want or what WNW should do. It does not include every aeroplane ever built during WW1 but lists the most talked about aeroplanes that people have mentioned over the past 12 months on this forum. The reason I restricted the voting to two per member is to stop everyone voting for every aeroplane listed, this would give no indication what so ever of what is the more popular, I for one would like to see every one of those planes kitted by Wingnuts, or any other manufacturer, I registered my two votes (BE.2 and Avro 504) as I hope many more members will.

Thank you for participating in this fun poll, looking at the figures so far there are some surprise results.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Whiteknuckles on January 23, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
Voted for the Be2  and the Avro 504. Com'on bring them out!

Me too...

As did I ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on January 24, 2014, 01:11:14 AM
Now, on completion I presume this survey will be defined as gospel and WNW will make it so.

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: timpivonka on January 24, 2014, 03:41:46 AM
I cast my two votes.  I have to throw my hat in the ring for the French fighters, since they were used by so many nations.  Any would be great with many variations on markings, etc.  Would also maybe like to see something Austro-Hungarian for a change of pace.

Tim Pivonka
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 24, 2014, 03:47:18 AM
My two votes were cast for the Hanriot and the Phonix.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 24, 2014, 04:33:18 AM
I guess I am a little off of the beaten path. My Votes went to the Dolphin and Albatros DII. Yes I have the Encore kit but a WNW DII would be so AWESOME and a basis for the DIII and OAW DIII  :P :P
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on January 24, 2014, 09:38:45 AM
I guess I am a little off of the beaten path. My Votes went to the Dolphin and Albatros DII. Yes I have the Encore kit but a WNW DII would be so AWESOME and a basis for the DIII and OAW DIII  :P :P
RAGIII
Any Albie related WNW release would be wonderful. A correct DIII especially. I voted for the DII naturally plus the Walfisch. 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on January 24, 2014, 09:42:57 AM
I guess I am a little off of the beaten path. My Votes went to the Dolphin and Albatros DII. Yes I have the Encore kit but a WNW DII would be so AWESOME and a basis for the DIII and OAW DIII  :P :P
RAGIII
Any Albie related WNW release would be wonderful. A correct DIII especially. I voted for the DII naturally plus the Walfisch.


I'm with Keith.............an anatomically correct D.III......and a D.II..............and a D.I


Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nanks on January 26, 2014, 02:02:54 PM
I voted for a Nieuport XI as I have some AFC decals for one, and an Avro 504
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 29, 2014, 08:50:40 AM


Ok we have the poll above and the Salmsons and AMC Dh9 are available, so how many check the WNW Site Weekly (if not daily) in anticipation of something new?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 29, 2014, 09:24:42 AM
I think there are many of us who do the daily ritual of checking the Wingnuts website in anticipation that there will be a surprise release sitting there.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 29, 2014, 09:47:56 AM
I can say I am not checking the WNW site all that often now after the end of the year and the Salmson release.

That being said, I am very interested to see if they announce anything new - I think the list of future releases on their site is the shortest since they arrived on the scene four years ago?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on January 30, 2014, 02:46:20 AM
I check it a couple of times a week, but I know nothing new will be on it.  I agree with Petrov, the only thing in development now is the AEG.  Not sure what they will "Surprise" us with in the coming months.  I wonder how sales of the AMC DH9 are doing?  I haven't seen any build logs on it or comments other than an in box review on another forum.  I have more than enough in my stash to keep me busy into the next millenium.  Some allied single seaters would be nice though.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on January 30, 2014, 02:49:51 AM
I leave it to you lot to check for me  ;D

vb
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on January 30, 2014, 03:19:26 AM
    Given WNW's dynamic pace of providing new subjects since entering the marketplace I suspect things will pick up quickly in the Centenary Year of the Great War.  "It ain't over til it's over" goes the old saying and were only in the first month! Here's hoping for the challenge of balancing an impossible Stash with a deluge of new "gotta have" Kits, particularly topics from the Allied Countries on both sides of the conflict, and of course a Camel! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 30, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
it looks good to me that many guys voted for the halberstadt cl.ii and roland c.ii those 2 would get my vote but i dont understand some of the other entries. like phonix d.iii why not d.i or d.ii which had more production more marking options etc. dh-5 seems a bit obscure  imho. no need for an alb d.ii when we have a nice roden d.i/d.ii ,if they do an albie i think an oeffag would be much more desireable. special hobby and a model make nieuport xi and xvi so we dont need that. and imho the jenny just isnt that interesting and wasnt anything more than a trainer and a post war barnstormer. i totally get the breguet,dolphin,be2,hanriot and even the hansa c.1(although special hobby has been threatening one in all 3 scales for 2 years) my whole point is while any ww1 kits wnw put out will be great, i am hoping for something i dont have already built or in the stash craft wise in 1/32. i still say a berg d.i (any series)the oeffag d.iii, a junker cl.i,what about one of the lohner pfeilfliegers? what about some sorta flying boat grigorovich?macchi?lohner?hansa? i dont know i guess i'm the weirdo but i want new and different not multiple kits of the same plane. i guess thats the modelling industry, how many focke wulfe 190s are there? how many spitfire. sorry for the rant.....discuss
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Beto on January 30, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
I'd really love to see a Lohner flying boat. Or any other Austrian types. In my opinion many of them have an outrageous "stop that pigeon" look, with those impossible gun turrets for the observer or strange strut arrangements.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on January 30, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
I suppose they will get this spring something early war that has not been represented in 1:32 scale - a taube (crossing fingers) for example. Gneerally early war subjects are rare and under represented. They stated many times that they prefer not to produce kits that already have a good anallog in 1:32 but who knows
Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on January 30, 2014, 08:38:09 PM
Realistically anything Wingnut Wings produces this year could be regarded as commemorating the 100th anniversary of the outbreak of WW1, whether it is intended to be a commemorative release or not.

I suspect Wingnuts will continue as they have done before and stick to their own production programme which, when you look at the dates on the sprues of their previous kits, indicates the models are some years in production, so whatever we get this year has probably been in development & production since 2012 or 2013.

As Wingnuts does not disclose its release schedule we can just speculate on what we may get and when. A Be2 would be nice this year, but based on past releases anything new is more likely to be in the latter half/ quarter of the year.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on January 30, 2014, 08:45:46 PM
it looks good to me that many guys voted for the halberstadt cl.ii and roland c.ii those 2 would get my vote but i dont understand some of the other entries. like phonix d.iii why not d.i or d.ii which had more production more marking options etc. dh-5 seems a bit obscure  imho. no need for an alb d.ii when we have a nice roden d.i/d.ii ,if they do an albie i think an oeffag would be much more desireable. special hobby and a model make nieuport xi and xvi so we dont need that. and imho the jenny just isnt that interesting and wasnt anything more than a trainer and a post war barnstormer. i totally get the breguet,dolphin,be2,hanriot and even the hansa c.1(although special hobby has been threatening one in all 3 scales for 2 years) my whole point is while any ww1 kits wnw put out will be great, i am hoping for something i dont have already built or in the stash craft wise in 1/32. i still say a berg d.i (any series)the oeffag d.iii, a junker cl.i,what about one of the lohner pfeilfliegers? what about some sorta flying boat grigorovich?macchi?lohner?hansa? i dont know i guess i'm the weirdo but i want new and different not multiple kits of the same plane. i guess thats the modelling industry, how many focke wulfe 190s are there? how many spitfire. sorry for the rant.....discuss

Not a rant at all, your views are fair - even though it could be argued that WNW would do a better job of some of those models.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 30, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
Not a rant at all ALBATROS1234! Just an expression of views, some, but not all of which I would share.

I'm happy to accept whatever comes from the folk at WnW, because I trust them and recognise their passion for the period. That said, for reasons which I can't easily rationalise, an Avro 504k would hold no interest for me. One of my votes went for a BE 2, which was clearly a choice of many. The other went to the Nieuport XI, because while there is a Special Hobby version, I want to see what a state of the art model of this beauty would bring.

I share your frustration at yet another Fw 190 etc, but understand the views of those who love them, and the manufacturers, as new modelling technologies and scales beckon. But it can go too far. It's a story I've used before but I get the feeling that if an historian discovered a beer mat in an archive somewhere which showed a pencil scribble of a Tiger tank with an en-suite shower and toilet, then within weeks we'd be seeing a model released, soon to be followed by etched metal offering a choice of western and eastern front toilet paper!

On other things, when at Telford I saw a small stand which showed some early production bits from a 1/48 resin Taube. It looked very nice, but sounded like it could be very expensive. I took the business card of the guy, who is based somewhere in Europe , but have since lost it. Did anyone else see this, or can someone throw light on it?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 30, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
I agree with ALBATROS1234 about wishing they would keep focus on kits that have not been done before, but I get the impression that WNW has tons of requests with folks just screaming for them to do a Fokker DrI, Camel, even the DVIII even though reasonable kits of those subjects are already available in 1/32.



Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on January 31, 2014, 03:20:38 AM
I think you will be correct petrov27.  Undoubtedly a WNW Dr1 would be a best seller.  For those of us who don't have the other manufacturer's kits in the stash, WNW are always going to have an advantage IMHO.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on January 31, 2014, 03:54:53 AM
Geez Nigel, the beer mat clearly shows it was a jacuzzi tub NOT a simple shower.

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 31, 2014, 07:42:12 AM
Just imagine for one minute that Tamiya started producing WW1 aircraft kits in 1:32 scale, what a dilemma we would face trying to decide who makes the better kit, Tamiya or Wingnuts, this is a position I would love to be in.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on January 31, 2014, 09:12:27 AM
Just imagine for one minute that Tamiya started producing WW1 aircraft kits in 1:32 scale, what a dilemma we would face trying to decide who makes the better kit, Tamiya or Wingnuts, this is a position I would love to be in.

Des.

Now that sounds sort of heavenly, Des.  One can only hope.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 31, 2014, 11:28:42 AM
i cant see tamiya putting in the research that wnw who have a passion for the subject put in. just because their plastic and molding technology are cutting edge doesnt mean the accuracy would be there. but hey if they do i'm sure i would get one to check it out. i am not a huge fan of tamiya in general, but then again most of the models they have for sale today are 20 years old plus. they put out a few new molds per year but they are still raking in cash from their old molds most of which are no where near cutting edge. some of their stuff is the only game in town like the schwimmwagen. to me it would be more likely hasegawa would think of doing ww1 subjects as tamiya are mainly an armor company in my opinion not to say they havent done a bunch of planes. hasegawa seem to be more aircraft oriented.

 back to the original topic, of course i would buy a wnw dr.1 it would be super sweet and would fall together like a dream when you shake the box into a perfect dr.1. i am just saying i would rather them not do the dr.1 until later on and concentrate on planes we have no kit for rather than making half my stash of roden and special hobby kits worthless. i have 4 1/32dr.1 kits unbuilt 2 encore and 2 roden. if one puts in the extra time to add a few missing or incorrect details and add some archer resin imbedded rib tapes i would think it would be almost impossible to tell a wnw from a roden dr.1. just saying why not something new,to me this is more important. if the roden kits didnt exist or were the quality of battle axe i would say do it,do it now. i'm glad some of you at least understand where i am coming from.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 31, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
also i am kinda worried, this year i think they had to recieve less than usual sales. in recent years the releases were more exctiting and desireable imho of course. this year we got the salmson, unfortunately for wnw right after gaspatchs release. i got the gaspatch one. the problem is the salmsons all look the same,like a spad xiii they have the french standard 5 color camo, only the squadron markings change for the most part,japanese version excluded. then the released the fokker e.i and e.iv, which i am tempted to get an e.iv but who needs an e.i when you already have an e.ii/e.iii. finally we got the dh-9. to me the best release of all this season, and i will be getting one of those,especially since i never liked the boxy dh-9a and didnt buy one. i fear guys that already have the 9a wont necessarilly be lining up to get a dh-9. so to my thoughts wnw broke even if they were lucky this season. they need a big seller next year like the camel (which to me we do need much more than a dr.1) or a dr.1 to make that slam of money next year. again these are only my opinions.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 31, 2014, 12:43:25 PM
Did the DVII come out in 2013 for WNW? I was thinking it did? If so, I would imagine that would have made 2013 a big year for WNW?

Yeah - agreed that if the sales from a DrI or Camel means we get something more rare or at least not as mainstream appealing I am all for WNW cranking one out...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 31, 2014, 01:55:38 PM
All fair points to be sure, but I'd like to see the wee Junkers D-1.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on February 01, 2014, 02:25:26 AM
Did the DVII come out in 2013 for WNW? I was thinking it did? If so, I would imagine that would have made 2013 a big year for WNW?

Yeah - agreed that if the sales from a DrI or Camel means we get something more rare or at least not as mainstream appealing I am all for WNW cranking one out...

The DVII F came out in March in of 2013, the others were released in November 2012.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 01, 2014, 07:07:43 AM

.... they need a big seller next year like the camel (which to me we do need much more than a dr.1) or a dr.1 to make that slam of money next year. again these are only my opinions.


One must recall that WNW is NOT a market driven company, Sir PJ gets what he wants First (who else would make the Junkers J1 the #1 kit in a totally new line of kits) I doubt WNW HAS to make a slam on any one kit... we will get the chocolate, vanilla and strawberry kits when WNW is ready.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: TimK on February 01, 2014, 06:48:07 PM
For Nigel Jackson on 30 January -
The  1/48 resin Taube kit seen in progress at Telford is being developed by Peter Plattner of Wiener Modellbau Manufactur in Austria. A charming guy and an exceptional model maker. His website wmm.at shows more of his work, including his astounding 1/16 Austro Daimler engine.
Tim
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 01, 2014, 10:24:06 PM
Tim, many thanks for this. It was seeing Peter's early resin work on the Taube which made me realise how big an aircraft it was.

There's no sign yet of the Taube on the site, but for those yet to discover it, (wmm.at) there's some lovely things to look at, including some 1/48 Austro-Hungarian aviation figures, beautiful Austro-Hungarian naval work and figures, and the amazing Daimler 120hp engine Tim mentions. It's custom-made but, for me, ferociously expensive.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on February 03, 2014, 02:20:37 AM
wmm.at makes me drool..........I believe there is a charity named " Steve needs a torpedoboot" Please give generously.....

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 05, 2014, 01:59:58 PM
peter plattner is a great modeller, i have seen alot of his stuff thru the years so a taube scratchbuilt by him would be great, i would buy one, but then i prefer 1/48 i know not a popular thing to say these days. but theres just so much more different stuff in 1/48 that will never be produced in 1/32 .hell if not for wnw we wouldnt even have 20 1/32 ww1 kits right.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 07, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
peter plattner is a great modeller, i have seen alot of his stuff thru the years so a taube scratchbuilt by him would be great, i would buy one, but then i prefer 1/48 i know not a popular thing to say these days. but theres just so much more different stuff in 1/48 that will never be produced in 1/32 .hell if not for wnw we wouldnt even have 20 1/32 ww1 kits right.

You are correct on both accounts and Thank Sir P. J. and his crew !!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fullb35 on March 08, 2014, 01:17:14 AM
 Spad XIII
 Breguet 14
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldtrousers on March 09, 2014, 02:37:54 AM
I had not noticed this poll before. I voted for the Roland CII. That would sure be neat in 1/32!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 09, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
If I could vote again I would vote for the DH5, It looks very lonely in single digits  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 09, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
Very interesting to see the Roland C.II Walfisch taking the lead with the Halberstadt CL.II not far behind, but what surprises me the most is the RAF BE.2, this is running third at the moment but for an early unattractive aeroplane it is polling very well, I would love to see Wingnuts release a BE.2 sometime this year.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on March 09, 2014, 06:14:29 PM
Yes, Des, although I am a confessing Walfisch-addict, I do like the BE.2 a lot too and would really like to see it from WnW!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RichO on March 11, 2014, 11:17:44 PM
I too would like to see the be.2, but I hope it's an "a" as apposed to a "c". I really love the look of the earlier versions of most of the aircraft from that era.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 23, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
I'm with you on this one, I also hope it is an "a" version, I really like the earlier aircraft.

The poll is still active for anyone who has not voted yet.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 23, 2014, 05:44:14 PM
Hello All

Just to buck the trend I'd prefer the BE.2c to the 'a', but in truth I would be so happy to see either. By way of preparation (hopefully not for a fall) I've recently been acquiring and checking out my BE sources.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Graham t on March 24, 2014, 12:33:08 AM
Voted for the Dolphin & Walfisch!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 24, 2014, 07:08:24 AM
I sent a copy of the poll to Richard Alexander over at Wingnuts, it will be interesting to see if I get any type of response with his thoughts on the list of aeroplanes and the number of votes cast.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 24, 2014, 09:10:09 AM
I received a reply from Richard but due to the privacy act imposed on any emails sent from Wingnuts I cannot disclose the contents of his email. But he did make a few good points regarding the number of votes for certain aircraft considering that these particular models, and quite good ones, are already available in 1:32 scale by other manufacturers.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on March 24, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Eh? Only 2 of em!..


Hanriot. NOW. Or I'll cry....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on March 24, 2014, 05:02:33 PM
(...) considering that these particular models, and quite good ones, are already available in 1:32 scale by other manufacturers. (...)

Hm, but as far as I know, none of the polled models are available in 1:32nd scale, right? Or do I get the you/Richard Alexander wrong?

Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 24, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
The Albatros D.II is on the poll but is already available from Encore and is a very nice kit, the Niueport XI bebe is also on the poll but is available from Special Hobby, this also is a very nice kit, both of these kits are 1:32 scale.

Des.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--A1Z9SYrizQ/Uy_hSpkHYgI/AAAAAAAAMoM/utVxwpfp1vM/s800/photo1g.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Cz0cSWVcKFQ/Uy_hSnqo8hI/AAAAAAAAMoQ/CgRn1uV_dhw/s800/nieuport-11-bebe-1-32-maquette-d-avion-special-hobby-32015.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on March 25, 2014, 05:25:54 AM
Ah, I understand, Des: Richard Alexander is talking about models of any quality or required skill available (or not so available)! Well that's not what I am around for. I want perfect models of interesting subjects, easy to build at a reasonable Price, that is Wingnut Wings Models and to a degree Roden too. (I can wait..!)
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on March 26, 2014, 09:08:11 AM
One aircraft that has been woefully neglected is the Voisin LA series.  Since Des has made his excellent scratch built, someone needs to bring it out in 1/32.

Nice thing is that there is still an example in Paris to refer to.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 30, 2014, 10:38:06 PM
Heavens above, is it just me counting down the days until the Scale Models Expo in Wellington over the weekend of 5-6 April? The news page on the WnW site still just has a big advert for it with the enticing prospect of a WnW stand and the words 'we look forward to meeting you and discussing our new and upcoming releases'. It's the other side of the world to me, but I'm sure that forum friends will bring us any news hot off the press!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on March 31, 2014, 04:28:38 AM
I also am counting down the days (5). Am I the only forum member attending?

(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/www/news/Scale%20Models%20Expo%202014.png)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on March 31, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Me.

GrahamB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on April 01, 2014, 12:20:44 AM
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/08AE5E8D5EBE7801A1E8E014780745D1

OMG theyre sold out!!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2014, 12:48:22 AM
wow the deluxe sets can't be long in coming now.

Sure glad I am sitting on a pile of Albatri :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on April 01, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
Wow - dangit, I wanted to pick up another Sopwith tripe at some point too...

Hope we see the "special edition" releases of the sold out kits (in my lifetime lol)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on April 01, 2014, 12:51:03 AM
It suggests to me they're taking a pile of stock to this show, which has suddenly emptied some of the shelves...Clever people would buy whats at the show....

Shame as I was thinking of getting another Alby and need another OAW D7
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2014, 01:07:15 AM
Wait... Is it April 1 in NZ yet?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on April 01, 2014, 01:08:17 AM
I just had exactly that thought! Got me
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on April 01, 2014, 01:10:38 AM
Now, that's a shocker! :o I too was thinking about another Tripe; Thankfully I had the forethought (weakness??) to "lay in" a second of both Albies! The Special Editions will no doubt come at a considerable increase in price. The April 1 thought would be a nice reprieve however I suspect "it is what it is"! :'(
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on April 01, 2014, 02:06:33 AM
Really glad I got my Tripe when I did.  I agree with Lance.  I think an April fools joke from these folks would've been more elaborate, right on the home page.  Hope I'm wrong.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2014, 02:30:50 AM
C'mon. Both Albies, the Tripe and the Gotha and the recent Fokker D.VII (OAW) go sold out all at once? At midnight on April 1? It's a joke.

But whatever, I've got them all in my stash...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2014, 02:38:00 AM
this just in from the FB WNW Fans thread:

Quote
!IMPORTANT!
I had a conversation with Richard Alexander from WNW right now and you can stop panic guys. According to his words:
"it is an error, they are not really sold out and we are trying to fix the situation now but it will probably take a few hours"
They are changing server for their website and this error suddenly appeared.
So guys, do not worry, it is just an error...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on April 01, 2014, 02:49:11 AM
so cue panic buying... Great business model!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on April 01, 2014, 03:41:07 AM
And there I was listing my Albs, Foks and Tripes on eBay! Doh!
Looks like a much needed holiday in New Zealand will have to wait... for now!  :D :)

vB

 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2014, 03:54:07 AM
this just in from the FB WNW Fans thread:

Quote
!IMPORTANT!
I had a conversation with Richard Alexander from WNW right now and you can stop panic guys. According to his words:
"it is an error, they are not really sold out and we are trying to fix the situation now but it will probably take a few hours"
They are changing server for their website and this error suddenly appeared.
So guys, do not worry, it is just an error...


And maybe this is April 1st fools day joke...  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on April 01, 2014, 04:18:17 AM
A double bluff! Curse those wingnutters!! :D
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on April 01, 2014, 04:52:54 AM
I really hope this is a mistake as Richard Alexander said, but now on their website they have ALL THREE Fokker D.VII's as sold out! The only one still available is the D.VIIF.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on April 01, 2014, 05:02:58 AM
I am hoping it is a computer glitch.  I wouldn't make good business sense to post them out of stock as an April Fools joke.  I am going to take the email that quoted Richard Alexander as stating that it is a computer glitch. 

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2014, 05:17:41 AM
I predict everything is shown sold out before the day is over  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on April 01, 2014, 05:22:26 AM
For those on the WNW email list, here's the text from a message I just received.  I like the bit about panic orders.   :)
-----------------------
Hi,

Overnight a website error caused several of our models to wrongly appear as sold
out. While all our models are limited and will eventually sell out, these models
are still currently available as of 1 April 2014;

32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV            US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane         US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V        US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok)        US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va        US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb)        US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW)    US$79

Almost certainly more models will appear to be sold out in error over the next
few hours. Hopefully we will have this fixed some time today (New Zealand time).

We apologise for any concern that may have been caused. If this website error
caused you to place a panic order and you wish to cancel it for a full refund
please email help@wingnutwings.com with your order details.

...

Regards

Richard Alexander
Coordinator
richard@wingnutwings.com
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Checkers67 on May 05, 2014, 11:53:42 PM
Time for the Halberstadt Cl.II to arrive in a big way.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 14, 2014, 07:52:38 AM
WNW Be.2e in September 2014, my guess anyway.
Title: ReTime for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on May 14, 2014, 09:05:03 AM
My guess is the A.E.G in July.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on May 15, 2014, 12:04:02 AM
We know the post war RAF birds and the AEG are somewhere in development.  My guess would be that a pair of BE2's, would also be in development.  The variants I would like to see are the BE2c and the BE2e, which I think are the two principle types.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on May 15, 2014, 01:46:20 AM
I guess there will be a new kit available as of 28th July and it is going to be an early war bird
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 15, 2014, 02:28:14 AM
I guess there will be a new kit available as of 28th July and it is going to be an early war bird

My birthday (28th!)  ;)
Hint Hint...

VB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on May 17, 2014, 07:28:30 AM
No News from WnW at Shizuoka, right?
Last year, I think, they showed off with the AEG G.IV there, which I am looking foreward to since, but I mean to remember that someone wrote somewhere, this bird was due out in 2015 only.
All right, more time to enjoy my last acquisition, the lovely Roland C.II!
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on May 22, 2014, 05:02:20 PM
Did I mention before that I could well fancy a Breguet 14 by WingnutWings?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on June 21, 2014, 12:55:43 AM
I was having a thought, and maybe a dream.  So the AEG G IV from WnW has been announced for a long time.  I was thinking (wishing) that the reason it is taking so long, is that maybe besides doing the regular G IV, they are also doing the ground attack version with the armored nose, and the night bombing version with the huge wings.  Anyone care to tell me that I'm right?  Just hoping :^)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on June 21, 2014, 12:30:51 PM
Did I mention before that I could well fancy a Breguet 14 by WingnutWings?

You aren't the only one Mr. Winter!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on June 21, 2014, 08:02:28 PM
Ooou, that's so good! So we are two already, right?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on June 28, 2014, 04:59:44 AM
Sooooo, tomorrow will be June 28th. 100 years after the Sarajevo assasinations.

Will this "anniversary" be celebrated by someting from WNW?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on June 28, 2014, 05:16:51 AM
It's my birthday tomorrow too... my present is stuck in customs on its way from WNW... Guess it's a gonna be late.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 28, 2014, 07:13:32 AM
Sooooo, tomorrow will be June 28th. 100 years after the Sarajevo assasinations.

Will this "anniversary" be celebrated by someting from WNW?

Or why not tie the release of a BE2 in with the landing of the British Expeditionary Force land in France on 7 August or the arrival  of the first RFC aircraft on 13 August?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: contact 123 on July 08, 2014, 05:55:23 AM
Bravo Dekenba,my duellist kit arrives tomorrow.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on July 08, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
Should be a fun time at your house Dean, in aboot a week or so....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on July 08, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
   I don't think my old heart could take 11 WNW Kits arriving at once!?! That's some serious shopping, Dean, and I applaud your logic.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on July 08, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
   I don't think my old heart could take 11 WNW Kits arriving at once!?! That's some serious shopping, Dean, and I applaud your logic.
Cheers,
Lance

I may need a defibrillator just thinking of such a thing. ;D  Good for you, Dean.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on July 12, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
I have finally found my modeling niche in 1/32nd WWI.  I am slowly selling off all of my other kits and purchasing 1/32nd WW1.  Thanks to Roden with their release of the DR1 many moons ago and WNW.  I am even going to offer up my collection of Aurora WW1 kits.
Too much fun in 1/32nd.

I can fully appreciate Dean selling his collection of WWII and shelling out $999.99 for WNW.  At no additional expense.  Prudent selling and buying.


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rolanddvi on July 12, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
mgunns,

I'm doing the same. I have way more kits in 1/72 and 1/48 scale than I can build in two lifetimes!! Time to thin the herd.

Mike
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on July 12, 2014, 11:20:11 AM
I also want to the same. I want to try and sell my 1/48 World War II kits and books, so I can concentrate on getting some more WNW kits and World War I aviation books. The only WNW kits I have are the Gotha and Rumpler (Early). I ant the Fokker Eindecker, D.VII, Albatros, Fe2b, Dh.2, and THE A.E.G whent it comes out.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on July 12, 2014, 01:41:50 PM
   There's a very real exodus from 1:72 and it would appear more so from 1:48 into 1:32 becoming apparent. I switched several years back because increasing age and the related curses made 1:32 much more practical and, most important, comfortable for me. I'm thinking WNW has had an even greater impact then we've realised until now. And also, how many times in the last few months have you heard statements to the effect of "I'm getting rid of my WWII stuff to make room for/ be able to afford............WWI Stuff"!
   Is our tiny niche of the Hobby getting bigger?!? Can WNW sustain the surge into WWI Aircraft Modelling? Just thinking out loud, is all!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on July 12, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
I am here as a direct result of WNW, having come over from WWII 1/48 scale.  I still like WWII aviation modelling, but my surge in interest in WWI is the direct result of WNW.

And yes, my herd now needs culling, too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 13, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
28th July 2014 is the 100th anniversary for the start of World War One, I wonder if this will be the day when Wingnut Wings releases some centenary kits, if not Wingnuts maybe some other companies.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tony Haycock on July 13, 2014, 10:47:47 AM
28th July 2014 is the 100th anniversary for the start of World War One, I wonder if this will be the day when Wingnut Wings releases some centenary kits, if not Wingnuts maybe some other companies.

Des.

Breath baited and waiting for a BE2!
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on July 13, 2014, 10:51:07 AM
28th July 2014 is the 100th anniversary for the start of World War One, I wonder if this will be the day when Wingnut Wings releases some centenary kits, if not Wingnuts maybe some other companies.

Des.

They are going to surprise us all with a Farman.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 13, 2014, 11:05:02 AM
I agree Des, I bet this date has been circled for a very long time at the WNW offices...  we'll know soon enough :)
 
I'm betting BE.2
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 13, 2014, 11:08:10 AM
I agree Des, I bet this date has been circled for a very long time at the WNW offices...  we'll know soon enough :)
 
I'm betting BE.2
From your lips to Sir Richard's ears, Bo!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
The Be2 will certainly lend itself to multiple variants which is a good trait! I was also thinking of other early war birds that might have multiple options. The Morane L and Pfalz equivalent. The Morane G? and Pfalz Eequivalent, etc.
They would not only have multiple markings but multiple nationalities!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on July 13, 2014, 02:16:45 PM
Maybe a Caudron?

- just speculation... ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 13, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
I would be very happy with a BE.2  :) :)

Des.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 13, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
My birthday drops on the 28th.
A nice Fok.DR.1 would be more than pleasing, Sir Peter!

Cheers,
Von Buckle   :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 15, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
Lifted from facebook.  ;)


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Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on July 15, 2014, 04:14:24 PM
Well deserved. The most produced German aircraft of WW1, and the one I had been waiting for.

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 15, 2014, 04:50:23 PM
This one is going to be mandatory for me as it was part of the Bulgarian Air Force
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 15, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
Excellent release! Mandatory for me as well....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 15, 2014, 09:18:01 PM
We should do a DVII group build :-X

I'm in  :-X
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 15, 2014, 09:28:50 PM
We should do a DVII group build :-X

I'm in  :-X
So am I, it will be a good reason to finally build one of those  :-X
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 15, 2014, 09:42:09 PM
We should do a DVII group build :-X

I'm in  :-X

 :-X
A DVII GB with 3 year completion time?  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on July 15, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
Is this a 1/72 build? ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 15, 2014, 09:51:07 PM
Please register your name in the GB board, the more the better.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on July 15, 2014, 10:09:01 PM
Hmmmm, nice

Think I'll have have one as well.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 16, 2014, 12:36:48 AM
DFW---what is the kit number, as note it says ..."Mid Production""" so an early/late to follow....
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on July 16, 2014, 01:21:18 AM
This is gonna be one sweet kit. Can't wait. This gives me hope that they will do a Friedrichshafen one day. Did not see a DFW coming from them at all.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on July 16, 2014, 09:41:24 AM
Not for me this one....looks too much like the Rumpler and lack of display space means I have to be more selective over what I purchase.

Any chance of a Halberstadt please good people at WNW? ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on July 16, 2014, 12:28:02 PM
Ooh, nice. Plenty of pretty camo schemes across the production range (see Schlachtflieger! for instance). A really deserved type - the most produced German WW1 aircraft, as has been said previously.

Like some others, what to sell to pay for this? Still, I'm waiting as well for a BE2 and Avro 504.

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2014, 12:38:27 PM
Just wondering about the new release announcement on the WNW site. common sense says it is the DFW but..... Why the question Mark? We know about the DFW  :-X
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 19, 2014, 09:27:53 AM
Lifted from facebook.  ;)


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Hmmmmm.....a Camel in the painting......hmmmmm......oh, so easy to speculate....this year????? A little Sopwith tease????? As in Rich Alexander actually did mention a while back that one is coming...... Hmmmmm.....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 19, 2014, 01:21:51 PM
They're just recycling a graphic ;)
You are most likely right but.... After the unusual way they announced the last release they put up a photo of the kit saying coming soon.....  ::)
RAGIII

PS: The further info says" Probably the single most important German aircraft of WW1" Now if one goes by the fact that the DFW was the Aircraft which was the most produced, and the fact that we know one is coming that seems to cinch the issue. I actually hope WNW is fooling all of us and yet another secret release of a German aircraft will grace our Stashes soon, An all Red DR1 would be cool. The "Single " most well known German aircraft of the War, recognized by even non WW1 buffs.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on July 19, 2014, 04:14:47 PM
Betcha it will be an Early or Late variant of the DFW already pictured, just like they did with the Roland CII recently when they released two versions (they have one more still in the pipeline)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 19, 2014, 11:33:05 PM
Betcha it will be an Early or Late variant of the DFW already pictured, just like they did with the Roland CII recently when they released two versions (they have one more still in the pipeline)

VERY Likely! My thoughts are certainly WISHFUL THINKING!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 20, 2014, 05:30:49 PM
holy shite got to have one, or two.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 20, 2014, 05:40:51 PM
quick comment: to say a dfw d.v looks just like a rumpler is like saying a be2c looks just like an re8. yes simliar in class and function but distinctly its own animal.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on July 20, 2014, 06:04:04 PM
You know what Albatros1234-?

You are absolutely correct.  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 21, 2014, 03:21:50 AM
You know what Albatros1234-?

You are absolutely correct.  ;)
Don't feel bad, Dave.  I had the same initial reaction.  Then, while studying the respective Datafiles to determine whether I wanted an early Rumpler or a DFW, I noticed that the Rumpler has a distinctly swept-back wing while the DFW's is straight as a board.  Although the rudders and fins are quite similar, the tail planes are quite different.  Different radiator configurations.  Different colors and schemes.  I'm now considering both.  The only thing holding me back is the size, me still deeply entrenched in the 1/48 realm.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 21, 2014, 04:31:54 AM
Time to switch to the 1/32 scale, Bud  ;)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 21, 2014, 07:54:01 AM
Time to switch to the 1/32 scale, Bud  ;)

Servus
Bertl
Oh, Bertl, if only I could.  I do have 10 WNW kits in my stash and one on the bench, but I have @280 1/48 scale WWI kits waiting to be built.  Space really is an issue and as long as those enormous beasts remain in their boxes, they present no real danger.  However, the WNW LVG is calling to me and she's getting louder every day.  Kinda like a Siren.  So lovely, so tempting, but so ready to devour me if I succumb.  All those details to add to such a large beauty.  It's partially your fault that I find myself in this position, mate.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on July 21, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
Hi Bud,

I don't feel bad at all, in fact I am highly delighted that WNW have chosen to release another brand new kit.

However I stand by my original comment that it looks too similar to the previously released Rumpler for me to invest in one due to my limited space for display. For that reason I sadly chose not to invest in the massive Gotha, much though I would like to.

Albatros1234 made a valid point that they are two different beasts much like say the Sopwith Camel and Sopwith Snipe.

Superficially though they do look alike.

Maybe he thought I could not tell the difference?

Enjoy your modelling, this is the golden age of WW1 modelling for us.

Best wishes,

Dave in Dubai

[/quote]
Don't feel bad, Dave.  I had the same initial reaction.  Then, while studying the respective Datafiles to determine whether I wanted an early Rumpler or a DFW, I noticed that the Rumpler has a distinctly swept-back wing while the DFW's is straight as a board.  Although the rudders and fins are quite similar, the tail planes are quite different.  Different radiator configurations.  Different colors and schemes.  I'm now considering both.  The only thing holding me back is the size, me still deeply entrenched in the 1/48 realm.
Cheers,
Bud
[/quote]
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 21, 2014, 12:12:14 PM
Dave, I'm in pretty much the same position as you.  Limited space.  No Gotha for me. :'(  When it comes to the Rumpler vs. DFW, I most likely won't buy both of those, either.  I've got two DFW variants and two Rumpler variants in 1/48 scale so, for me, it comes down to which one of the WNW kits has the coolest looking scheme.  WNW just updated their site and now show the DFW box art and model images.  Based on this model built by Brett Sharman of EnZed, I think I'll be ordering the DFW. http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3112&cat=5
Cool, huh?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on July 22, 2014, 03:51:13 AM
Having built 1/32 since 197.... well for a long time, I went to a vertical display cabinet. Mine is 27x34x85(inches) and has enough space for a few years of building, which is good as I do 1/16 figures and some armor as well. A mate on another site uses the Ikea 16 inch square glass cabinet, and simply added extra shelves with mini u-bolts. All this to say I think the DFW looks pretty good, and I prolly will find a way to include one in my stash.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 22, 2014, 03:55:06 PM
i agree justin 100%  i have half the kits wnw released but they are too big to store built in my little apartment. the 1/48s fit so nice on a narrow lttle shelf. and i have just as much fun with 1/48 if not more. what i have learned at least from my perspective in 1/32 equals more detail and more oppurtunity to add extra detail which extends build length and such. then i have a bigger model which only guys on this forum would notice the extra details. i am a tinkerer so i kinda like older kits and short run stuff cuz i have to figure out how to make it work and/or scratch build details. which isnt really harder that its smaller because theres less to see. to me this equals more completed builds.this means i can move on to new stuff. to each his own. everyone has there own preferences and expertise. i hope to finish my wnw fokker d.vii soon as well as a 1/32 roden dr.1 to sit on my wide shelf next to my 1/32 special hobby morane which is one of my all time favorites. still say i will buy a dfw too i already have an early rumpler.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on July 22, 2014, 11:48:52 PM
I like the 1/32nd due to my age, (65) and abilities to work with small stuff.  I do think that this sudden trend to do 1/32nd WWI aircraft has had some spillage into the realm of 1/48 and maybe even 1/72.  I notice new after market accessories and doo dads in 1/48 and 1/72nd coming out.  I too like 1/48, but; as mentioned I like the 1/32nd due it's size.  I pretty much do out of the box, save for the rigging and some minor engine detailing.  I am sure a DVW or two will find their way into the stash.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 03, 2014, 07:46:36 AM
What I gotta speculate about WNW products is  the long-time promised release of at least some of their resin figures. Their models are gradually issued, one eventually after the other, sometimes in a bit of a spate but it's been years since I first saw their home page with the figures labled 'in development' and still nothing comes forward. It's just that the few they show are just sitting there looking so enticingly crafted....of course....well, most of them anyway...one or two of them look to share a problem that too many other figures elsewhere on the market have which is slightly exaggerated facial features....noses and moustaches, especially. Sometimes they even appear a bit clownish and therefore just don't look all that real standing next to a very detailed, exact replica of a well built WWI airplane. But most of WNW's little people appear to be quite life-like, don't they, with well conceived poses that make it really easy to imagine several different scenes for dioramas. So they'll be worth the wait but, as usual, I get impatient and want 'em now....or yesterday.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Checkers67 on August 05, 2014, 12:30:07 AM
Still waiting for any A-H subject besides a Fokker. Berg D.I, Phönix D.I or D.II and UFAG C.I fror example.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on August 05, 2014, 01:11:54 AM
Yes, those A-H birds would be very welcome to me too! But as WnW clearly focus on Western Front-subjects so far, I am hoping for a Breguet XIV and a D.H. 4!
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: JastaB on August 06, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
I'm holding out for the Halberstadt CL.II
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: prepcik on August 07, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
Definitely agree that a Halberstadt CL II (and IV) would be worthy additions to Wingnuts line-up
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on August 07, 2014, 06:02:48 AM
In the game of 'Crosses and Noughts' we have had a string of German Crosses.  Hope the next is a BE2, my preference is the 2e.

Other subjects that I would like to see are:  AW FK8, SE5a Viper, Camel, Strutter, Halberstadt D.II/III, Halb. Cl.II, Voisin LA3 or 5.

My guess we will see a few of my wish list.  Curious that the AEG and post war DH9 and Brisfit have not popped up.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Galloway on August 07, 2014, 06:05:54 AM
We NEED a Breguet 14A & 14B as well as the others listed so many schemes war time & post war also ....


 Ken
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on August 07, 2014, 07:44:22 AM
So hard to predict what they will do next - hoping for a allied subject (Hanriot HD1 would be good) but who knows?

They are keeping things closer to the vest the last couple years - the Hannover and DFW were totally out of no-where - anything is possible...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 07, 2014, 01:59:58 PM
me too checkers, i want a berg d.1 or c.1 or some sort of phonix from wnw something fierce.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 08, 2014, 05:54:54 AM
me too checkers, i want a berg d.1 or c.1 or some sort of phonix from wnw something fierce.


Good things come to those who wait...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on August 08, 2014, 06:29:44 AM
me too checkers, i want a berg d.1 or c.1 or some sort of phonix from wnw something fierce.

I'm with ya Scott!

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on August 08, 2014, 10:26:14 AM
Me three on the Berg!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on August 08, 2014, 04:54:02 PM
Oh yeh!! Ber D1 with accurate hex pattern from the boys at Aviattic got to be the cutest kite in the sky!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on August 16, 2014, 09:27:08 AM
WNW Fokker DVII (Fok) is sold out:

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3040
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on August 16, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
WNW Fokker DVII (Fok) is sold out:

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3040

Wow - bummer - wonder how long the other versions will hold out.... May need to get the credit card warmed up...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on August 16, 2014, 09:48:09 AM
WNW Fokker DVII (Fok) is sold out:

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3040
:o
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on August 16, 2014, 09:56:46 AM
   This is starting to get confusing; I would not have expected this one to run out nearly this quickly. Short production runs? Why? :-\ :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on August 16, 2014, 09:59:58 AM
Hey Lance

It's because of the number of people who've signed-on for the D.VII Group Build.  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on August 16, 2014, 10:06:35 AM
Yeah - its kind of disappointing they sold out all ready - given time I would have purchased several more. I know they have said the basic kits would only ever get one run then maybe a "special" release later - I hope they reconsider that for at least the DVII....

Probably see them on eBay for $200+ USD shortly....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on August 16, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Kinda weird given the apparently infinite supply of Albatros D.V kits ...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on August 16, 2014, 11:28:28 AM
I wonder if increase in sales was due to a large cross over market...minimal rigging combined with WNW's reputation for high quality kits...lots of modelers taking a shot at a WWI fighter.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on August 16, 2014, 12:40:44 PM
Looks like it was a mistake: Latest message on that page says:

Quote
Note: This model is NOT sold out. A very very very annoying website problem caused this model to show as sold out for several hours on Saturday 16 August 2014 (NZ time). We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on August 16, 2014, 12:55:05 PM
Looks like it was a mistake: Latest message on that page says:

Quote
Note: This model is NOT sold out. A very very very annoying website problem caused this model to show as sold out for several hours on Saturday 16 August 2014 (NZ time). We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
 


 Whew!! There's still hope! :)
Lance
 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Vickers on August 16, 2014, 03:59:06 PM
Looks like it was a mistake: Latest message on that page says:

Quote
Note: This model is NOT sold out. A very very very annoying website problem caused this model to show as sold out for several hours on Saturday 16 August 2014 (NZ time). We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

Bugger. I panick ordered a DVII (Alb). What sort of chump an I?

You're no chump, just soon to be the proud owner of a WNW Fokker D.VII(Alb.) Nevertheless, the light bulbs turn on!  This must be some kind of marketing strategy built in by the web store developers- I'll bet WNW wasn't even told about it. I already have a "The Duelists" combo in the stash, but as soon it was marked as sold out I was overcome by the urge to buy more of their other Eindekkers and DH.2's. The software engineers are using our own minds against us!  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on August 16, 2014, 10:57:46 PM
Bugger. I panick ordered a DVII (Alb). What sort of chump an I?

The same sort of chump as me?  :-X
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on August 17, 2014, 02:25:30 AM
Yeah, I ordered another OAW and the F...oh well...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on August 17, 2014, 03:05:00 AM
Bugger. I panick ordered a DVII (Alb). What sort of chump an I?

The same sort of chump as me?  :-X

And I... though I have been meaning to get them for a while now so no harm....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on August 17, 2014, 03:24:34 AM
   This will probably result in a real sell out; guess I might have to order that "F" Version sooner then I thought! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on August 17, 2014, 09:30:33 AM
I panicked and orderedc the Hannover, biff and another DVII on reb paypal profit!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 18, 2014, 06:41:53 AM
Better to have them in the stash than to wanting one ( or any of them) when they are sold out .

Remember EB law #2:  Money is only as good as the things it will buy, if it can't get what you want it is no damn good.

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on August 18, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
Better to have them in the stash than to wanting one ( or any of them) when they are sold out .

Remember EB law #2:  Money is only as good as the things it will buy, if it can't get what you want it is no damn good.

Ed
Hear! Hear!  Words to live by, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on August 20, 2014, 12:25:39 PM
Quote
Note: This model is NOT sold out. A very very very annoying website problem caused this model to show as sold out for several hours on Saturday 16 August 2014 (NZ time). We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
[/quote] 

Bad Zoot, Naughty Evil Zoot, Bad Bad Zoot:   

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on August 25, 2014, 11:52:53 PM
"And then after the spanking..." ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on August 27, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
Ok, somewhere in a recent post by Lukaz (?) of Taurus resin, I remember him mentioning that he is working on resin parts for the engines in the upcoming Wingnuts Wings Dr.1 and F.1 kits. I may have this entirely wrong and will search for the post, but those aircraft, especially the F.1 are on the top of my WnW wish list. Maybe someone knows more about this?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 29, 2014, 02:33:58 AM
Well, Eindecker, buck up....your tip is pretty solid about the F.1....in an email that I sent to Richard Alexander of WNW 10-12 days ago about some other WNW stuff, in signing off I blurted out asking him how their Camel was coming along to which he cheerily replied that it is indeed "currently being worked on but with no time frame for a release". I asked him about it because he had informed me of it about a year ago but it was an excellent thing to see it newly reaffirmed. Still pinching myself, actually. As in too good to be true and all that. With this in mind, it lends all manner of credence to what your Taurus source said about a DR.1 prospect from them as well, now don't it. And would it be a leap to imagine them releasing the two of them simultaneously? Certainly would be dramatic, wouldn't it. It is LORd Peter, after all.    -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on August 29, 2014, 03:09:03 AM
Now I may be wrong (won't be the first time) but I don't think Lukasz has any special info regarding WNW releases... ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on August 29, 2014, 03:53:11 AM
A friend of mine was in New Zealand this past winter and made the trek to WNW.  He said the security at WNW HQ is tighter than at a Marine Corps Classified Storage Facility.  He got a tee shirt, but that's it.  No tour, no priveleged information.   With security that tight, is it any wonder that WNW can release something and catch the modeling world totally unawares?  If, one were to analyze their history, they do tip their hand; i.e., their show where they showed the mock ups for the DVII, and others, so they do tip their hand on ocassion, but the fun is the surprise releases.  Maybe, WNW will surprise us with the release of their "Hi Tech" kits this Christmas.  We shall see.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Hannover on August 29, 2014, 04:04:35 AM
As far as I can tell, nobody has the faintest clue when it comes to WNW's release schedule. Over the last few years models have just come out of the blue - the pair of DFW C.V's being just the latest. The Sopwith Tripe came out of nowhere and I've not seen a genuine heads-up warning about an imminent WNW release. Ever.

WNW obviously have superb security and very, very good staff who don't leak any information whatsoever.

It's very impressive.

And long may this situation continue. Makes WNW kits all that more enjoyable not knowing what's coming when.

I do feel the pleasure of buying a new kit is diminished these days when kits are announced months in advance and are all over the internet well before they are available. Gives the rivet counters too much headway in their analysis.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 29, 2014, 06:32:18 AM
Now I may be wrong (won't be the first time) but I don't think Lukasz has any special info regarding WNW releases... ;)

Doubt you are wrong Bo, it is eventual that WNW will do the Dr-I,  in the meantime Lukasz will be able to sell his engines to those who have the Roden kit.  Of other importance is that Lukasz has the one sided Fokker "wingnut" soon to be available, see post by Bertl elsewhere.

On WNW security, I think I rather enjoy it, oh we "know" some are natural releases, but all the more fun when they do arrive.

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on August 29, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
As far as I can tell, nobody has the faintest clue when it comes to WNW's release schedule. Over the last few years models have just come out of the blue - the pair of DFW C.V's being just the latest. The Sopwith Tripe came out of nowhere and I've not seen a genuine heads-up warning about an imminent WNW release. Ever.

WNW obviously have superb security and very, very good staff who don't leak any information whatsoever.

It's very impressive.

And long may this situation continue. Makes WNW kits all that more enjoyable not knowing what's coming when.

I do feel the pleasure of buying a new kit is diminished these days when kits are announced months in advance and are all over the internet well before they are available. Gives the rivet counters too much headway in their analysis.

Peter
=\]]\

Rivet counters... Arrrg! I used to visit HyperScale quite a bit but starting maybe a year or so ago, the accuracy police and rivet counters finally drove me away. I'll check in now and then to see what certain friends post, but it's turned into the kind of modeling club I fled from in California years ago.

I like the sudden surprise, and the not-to-be-taken seriously guessing game of what's next. I'm hoping for a Dr./F. series. And, I would fall all over a Belroit.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ebergerud on September 01, 2014, 02:00:02 PM
Pretty hard to beat a Camel, but I'd be quick to buy an Albatross III. Great pedigree and no lozenge camo: two good reasons right there. And an original "red" Richthoven buggy would raise some really interesting weathering/painting challenges as I understand it.

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Widmerpool on September 27, 2014, 03:40:04 AM
Has anyone else noticed that a painting of Collishaw's "Black Maria" triplane appears now and then in the upper righthand corner of the Wingnuts home page?  This is obviously different from the boxart on the already released triplane kit.  Maybe a signal that a new boxing of the model is on the way, possibly one of the long awaited deluxe kits? 
(And yes, I'm spending way too much staring at the Wingnut home page.)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on September 27, 2014, 03:49:25 AM
hmmm. you're right:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20603255/Screen%20Shot%202014-09-26%20at%2012.46.31%20PM.png)

not sure if I would read too much into this though...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on September 27, 2014, 04:09:13 AM
I think it could be the same artwork that is on the current release, maybe a pre-production version and they decided to go with a different markings choice and had the painting changed?

This happened to the HB W29 release - there was artwork shown of the box cover with Christiansen's markings and it was changed prior to production....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on September 27, 2014, 04:25:38 AM
yarp:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20603255/Screen-Shot-2014-09-26-at-1.18.20-PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on September 27, 2014, 05:04:38 AM
Ah well - nicely spotted though Widmerpool....

Sure would like to see one of those de-lux kits though just to see what they are going to contain....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on September 27, 2014, 05:39:47 AM
Ah well - nicely spotted though Widmerpool....

Sure would like to see one of those de-lux kits though just to see what they are going to contain....

Buy a WNW kit, a HGW detail set & some Pheon decals, and you're there....

Yep - but I am still interested to see whats in the box :)

A giant sheet of photoetched replacement parts does not really thrill me, nor am I much desiring the figures, and as you say Pheon and others are producing markings; I am really wondering if WNW will even do the delux kits at this point?

When announced they sounded like a good idea, but with so much available aftermarket I am not sure the demand is there if the kit cost goes way up? But who knows, maybe there will be some totally amazing add-ons included in these kits and they will be must-buys? I can't imagine what though - maybe flat rigging wires for the RFC subjects that are not horribly difficult to install?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on September 27, 2014, 06:25:50 AM
There have been very few Jasta 5 schemes. I am sure they will blitz that when the deluxe versions come out. Especially Flashars' Mailed Fist Albatros which is quite iconic
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2014, 11:48:16 AM
Ah well - nicely spotted though Widmerpool....

Sure would like to see one of those de-lux kits though just to see what they are going to contain....

Buy a WNW kit, a HGW detail set & some Pheon decals, and you're there....


Yep - but I am still interested to see whats in the box :)

A giant sheet of photoetched replacement parts does not really thrill me, nor am I much desiring the figures, and as you say Pheon and others are producing markings; I am really wondering if WNW will even do the delux kits at this point?

When announced they sounded like a good idea, but with so much available aftermarket I am not sure the demand is there if the kit cost goes way up? But who knows, maybe there will be some totally amazing add-ons included in these kits and they will be must-buys? I can't imagine what though - maybe flat rigging wires for the RFC subjects that are not horribly difficult to install?

Personally I like the idea of the figures being included and those that do not paint them could probably make their money back or close to it selling them to figure painters, well maybe  8) As for that RAF wire I have often wondered that if Nylon can be shaped in a round manner for fishing line why not flat or airfoil shaped? Too costly for what market their would be? I wonder if airfoil shaped would be more aerodynamic for casting  :o Now about speculation, I am going nback to my predictions for last holiday season. It is about time for the AEG to show up. The Camel surely must be progressing, and I still believe they will finish the Sopwith Family.  In particular the Strutter and Dolphin. Lastly High on my Probability list is the Fokker EV/DVII and yes, a DR1. I hope you enjoy my NON PSYCHIC guesses.
RAGIII

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on September 27, 2014, 06:28:30 PM
I suspect a new issue of the Sopwith Triplane too. In the latest Windsock Ray said that "a rather famous British Naval Fighter" is due for a 2015 Datafile release (a revisit/new version of an older datafile). Would be good timing.

Cheers,

GrahamB

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on September 28, 2014, 09:02:47 AM
I hope you are right about the Dolphin. I had just received the book by Cross and Cockade. I also hope that they will bring out a kit of the Fokker EV/DVIII, having been outbid on an Avis kit that was on Ebay. I think it would be a good kit to get people into building WWI aircraft with very little rigging and the lozenge might be easier to deal with. Having failed to get the Fokker, I did win bids on a Billy Bishop Nieuport and the Sopwith Camel with Capt Brown decals. I am trying to get a Spad XIII and will probably get the Roden Spad VII as well. Speaking of Spads, can anyone tell me if the Albatros book, "Italian Spads At War"  has detail drawings/pictures of the cockpits and other details even though I plan on making both mine French. It appears they no longer have a book on the Spad VII and I am not seeing any books on amazon containing details about these 2 aircraft other than the Osprey books.

Since we are talking about new kits, has anyone heard anything about the Special Hobby Albatros III? With Roden apparently not making anymore WWI kits, they may be our best bet to get more kits other than WNW. I am awaiting on a MS type N from them so will be curious how they compare in person with the WNW kits.




Personally I like the idea of the figures being included and those that do not paint them could probably make their money back or close to it selling them to figure painters, well maybe  8) As for that RAF wire I have often wondered that if Nylon can be shaped in a round manner for fishing line why not flat or airfoil shaped? Too costly for what market their would be? I wonder if airfoil shaped would be more aerodynamic for casting  :o Now about speculation, I am going nback to my predictions for last holiday season. It is about time for the AEG to show up. The Camel surely must be progressing, and I still believe they will finish the Sopwith Family.  In particular the Strutter and Dolphin. Lastly High on my Probability list is the Fokker EV/DVII and yes, a DR1. I hope you enjoy my NON PSYCHIC guesses.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fredjocko on September 29, 2014, 10:20:20 PM
Hi:

I remember reading some where that you could tell what subjects WNW was going to release by looking at their boxart. Well, if that's true both the SE.5a and F.2b both show the planes doing battle against a Dr.1. It seems if two kits show the same plane it would stand reason that they would release one, right? :)

Depending upon what subject the deluxe kits cover I would get them; especially the W.29. They would have to be less than the exorbinant costs on eBay.

Thanx,
Carl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on September 30, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
I think it depends on the accuracy of your "reading some where" that box art is indicative of future releases. I don't put much faith in that. The artist probably isn't privy to Wingnuts Wings release schedules. Anyway, there are many interesting aircraft that could make the cut, including the Taube, but I'm still hoping for a F.1/Dr.1 kit. I'd certainly buy two right off: Voss and Richtofen. I don't care how "over-kitted" they may be, Wingnuts Wings versions would be the best available and I would dearly love to see those two historic aircraft kitted by them.

Listening, Richard???????
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
I think it depends on the accuracy of your "reading some where" that box art is indicative of future releases. I don't put much faith in that. The artist probably isn't privy to Wingnuts Wings release schedules. Anyway, there are many interesting aircraft that could make the cut, including the Taube, but I'm still hoping for a F.1/Dr.1 kit. I'd certainly buy two right off: Voss and Richtofen. I don't care how "over-kitted" they may be, Wingnuts Wings versions would be the best available and I would dearly love to see those two historic aircraft kitted by them.

Listening, Richard???????

I agree about the box art. I don't personally think there is any indicator there.  We know that WNW has planned a Camel. What would bee more natural than a Duelist type kit with a Camel in Browns Markings and A DR1 as 425/17  ::) If I recall correctly we knew that an Eindecker series was coming but the DH2 was the surprise. The Duelist kit was released just prior to the individual kits. I know this sounds kinda crazy but it would be a big seller, especially to the fringe WW1 kit builders that only have entered WW1 modeling because of WNW.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on September 30, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
Yes I am hoping for a surprise double release when the Camel comes out, with a Fokker Dr.I. I reckon it would be a massive success
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on September 30, 2014, 08:49:14 PM
I guess my question is there a regularly scheduled release date for WNW kits or is it just something before Christmas ?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on September 30, 2014, 09:37:20 PM
Derrick

(a) No one outside of WNW knows or is willing to spill the beans
(b) Seems to have been a trend, whether it will continue who knows

Half the fun is not knowing and guessing otherwise it would be where's my bloody D.vii every 5 minutes
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on October 01, 2014, 06:47:45 AM
The release dates do appear a bit random from year to year, but there are some patterns.  There is typically a release in October or November, a pre-Christmas release and, the last two years at least, a surprise release in December.  Last year the Fokker E.I and E.IV were released on October 22nd, the previously-announced Salmson was released on December 15th and the surprise release was the D.H.9 on December 5th.  In 2012, the surprise release was the Hannover, with the first three Fokker D.VIIs as the announced Christmas release.  The September/October release was the Fokker E.II-III and E.III and the D.H.2, and I think they slipped the Tripehound in there in November as well. 

This year we had the surprise release of the DFW C.Vs in late July, following the surprise release of the Roland C.IIs in April.  This looks like a new pattern, although they probably have me looking for patterns where there are none. ;)  They also managed to slip in reboxings of the Roland D.VI in b form, and the Albatros D.Va in OAW form.  I am not sure what all of this portends for the final three months of 2014, but they will keep us speculating for sure.  Marvelous, isn't it?! ;D

Regards,

Bob 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on October 01, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
It's going the other way for us Kiwis. The kits are now 10% more expensive than they were a couple of months ago :(

I feel your pain, Justin.  It is the same for us Canucks as well. >:(

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 01, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
And us Aussies as well, my last purchase from Wingnuts, the Fokker E.IV sells for $69 US from the Wingnuts site, with the Australian exchange rate plus paypal taking it's exchange rate cut the cost of the kit was $80 Aust, this makes my purchase yesterday of a brand new Wingnuts LVG C.VI for $100 Aust very attractive.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on October 01, 2014, 04:05:12 PM
The movement in the exchange rate will have to go a long way to cover the 20% VAT and £8 handling fee for UK buyers. This is also reflected in the UK second hand market with single seater kits always exceeding $100 USD plus postage even on auctions. The BIN prices are higher than this.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on October 02, 2014, 09:34:31 AM
Back to speculation...

BE2e?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 02, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Back to speculation...

BE2e?

Yes, surely. I have just picked up my copy of the newest WD from the mail box and had the same feeling. It would be great to have this one for the coming Christmas, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 02, 2014, 09:13:38 PM
Back to speculation...

BE2e?

Yes, surely. I have just picked up my copy of the newest WD from the mail box and had the same feeling. It would be great to have this one for the coming Christmas, wouldn't it?

I do so hope we get some form of BE2, but I suspect a Camel or two and a friend told me not to rule out a Dolphin. Whichever way things go, I'll need to warn the bank!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nanks on October 04, 2014, 07:43:57 AM
I'm trying to remember ages ago there was a whole series of 3d concept models of what was coming out from wingnut wings, It had the EIII and the AEG G.IV but I think I saw an E.V/D.VIII as well.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on October 04, 2014, 09:49:28 AM
I don't think WNW have ever published anything about a possible Fok EV/DVIII. There are post-war DH9a and F2B kits coming, but no-one seems to be very excited about those
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on October 04, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
I did a bit more reading about the Fokker D.VIII after seeing Nigel's build. Always liked that plane and think it might have surpassed the D.VII had it been in production earlier. So, in addition to the Fokker Triplanes, I am rooting for a D.VIII.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 04, 2014, 11:42:56 PM
The post war variants just do not do it for me at all, but maybe that era will bring in others that are not so much into WW1 or not into PC10?

A WNW DVIII would be cool, it is not near the top of my personal want list though. Gotta believe they will do it someday...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 05, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
Continuing the speculation....

  - anyone know whether WNW intend to be at Telford this year?

If so, the timing would be quite good for releases in the run-up to dare I mention it?- Christmas.

Speculating like crazy on what they will release next! ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 05, 2014, 03:03:04 AM
Well they weren't there last year Dave, but I'm going and so, if they are, I'll get a posting up asap. The exhibition website will have a list of trade stands etc

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 06, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Yes, speculation is fun, there was some by others hoping WNW would do some between the war colorful bipes ( since Sir PJ did King Kong with chi Curtis biplanes) but I do think "stretching" the Dh9, Bristol and Snipe may have been a trial balloon.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 06, 2014, 11:40:35 PM
Any idea or speculation when Wingnut will release the A.E.G.?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on October 07, 2014, 12:57:39 AM
I would love to get the AEG...I'd snap one up...it seemed so imminent earlier in the year...as for speculation, for me, it seems as though it's a blur between that and a bucket list...that said, a crate I'd love to see from the NZ master kitmen is a Hanriot HDI...a trim little aircraft that is a bit iconic in it's own right. In Italy anyway.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 07, 2014, 01:00:41 AM
I would love to get the AEG...I'd snap one up...it seemed so imminent earlier in the year...as for speculation, for me, it seems as though it's a blur between that and a bucket list...that said, a crate I'd love to see from the NZ master kitmen is a Hanriot HDI...a trim little aircraft that is a bit iconic in it's own right. In Italy anyway.

Would love to see a Hanriot HDI, and a Friedrichshafen G.III.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 07, 2014, 02:57:04 AM
At Shizuoka Fair in 2012, when and where the AEG showed up first, there must have been a note, written in Japanese(!), that the kit was scheduled for release in 2015. unfortunately I don't remember, where I've read this, so this post of mine is worth close to nothing ( but still good enough for the "speculation"-aerea here, I guess...).
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 07, 2014, 04:04:20 AM
Close enough for me.... I still want a Do-335, and the ZM Horton 229. I'll hopefully get a DFW for Christmas, so all should be quiet on the model front after that.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 07, 2014, 05:50:01 AM
it seems a tradition now that Santa, or rather Peter Jackson and his team, will bring us a Christmas kit surprise - hoping for a Halb Cl2 or Hanriot myself.... :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on October 07, 2014, 07:46:32 AM
    There's still hope for that phantom Camel in my Christmas Wish Book.......................... ::)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 07, 2014, 08:04:19 AM
I think that's a good bet Dekenba...

I think a Halb CL.II is an eventual no brainer given the multitude of interesting schemes available, but I think a British type is probably due...

Sopwith Camel is one I will probably be able to resist-ish (like only buy one of the inevitable many versions/boxings)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 08, 2014, 01:44:14 AM
I wouldn't mind a 2F1 Camel, some nice paint schemes there.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on October 08, 2014, 02:56:48 AM
Sopwith Camel is one I will probably be able to resist-ish (like only buy one of the inevitable many versions/boxings)

Buy only one Camel?  :o  I guess your signature says it all Bo!  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on October 08, 2014, 04:02:25 AM
This is just personal speculation, but I think the folks at Wingnut Wings operate under a few general "policies", for lack of a better term. First, and most important, would be what Sir Peter Jackson wants. It's his outfit, after all and he has a keen WWI interest.

Secondly, because he staffed the company with modelers and artists who are also passionate about WWI aircraft who want to design and produce accurate and faithful models of the machines that were flown in those days, the aircraft chosen to be made into models are personal choices, if not solely by Sir Peter, then surely he has the most influence on what gets done. And, being that faithfulness to the prototypes are paramount in conjunction with sane and reasonable assembly requirements for the modelers, I'd say their schedules of releases depend on it being ready when it's ready. Really ready for modelers, not because some previously set deadline dependent on purely financial requirements has been set.

Personally, there are enough WWI subjects on the German and Allied sides to keep all of us occupied throughout our productive modeling lives if all were to be finally kitted.

I think WWI is Wingnuts Wings forte and passion, and to stray from it would be disappointing and unnecessary. If there is a market for "inter-war" aircraft, surely another outfit will surface to feed it. I don't think the market is big enough for that however.

That said, I would again put forward my hope that the Fokkers F.1, Dr.1 and D.VIII will someday be produced by our Wingnut Wings nuts.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 09, 2014, 05:33:19 AM

I think WWI is Wingnuts Wings forte and passion, and to stray from it would be disappointing and unnecessary. If there is a market for "inter-war" aircraft, surely another outfit will surface to feed it. I don't think the market is big enough for that however.


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Not to accuse anyone being a ...nattering nabob of negativity...  but to give some historical perspective, following Revell's release of the 1/28 Fok D VII, I sent Revell a request that they continue with more  WW I releases of the Alb DV/Va, Se5/5a, Pfalz D-III, Nieuport 28, Fokker E-III and Nieuport 11/17 saying that would give them,with the existing DR I, SPAD and Camel, a "line" of the best known WW I  fighters, creating their own "niche" in the market place with no competition in large scale; their response of March 9, 2000 @07:56:13  was that ..." demand was not in sufficient numbers..."  so no more new kits would be produced... 


Remember the excitement when Roden came out with new 1/32s, then of course WNW. Also it is indeed Sir PJ who makes the decisions.  No one in their right mind ( meaning a company in business to make a profit) would start off a  new line of  1/32 WW I  kits with the Junkers J1 as the First kit, he has the money to make his wishes come true and we are the beneficiaries of his largess. So count nothing out, it would not surprise me if he started an off shoot company of WNW  to produce kits of WWI vehicles and artillery of which he has  the 1:1 scale originals.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on October 10, 2014, 02:27:42 AM
Good point, ace, about Lord Peter...hopefully he does that sooner than later...like an early retirement from making huge budget films and indulges himself fully with his WWI passion...and if he were to do so, it WOULD be tremendous to see vehicles, figures, weapons, diorama stuff in general and as if by some sort of miracle, some crates from Austria-Hungary...ain't nobody got 'em in 1/32...what a turn-up that would be, eh. Like a WNW Phonix DI or II or an Aviatik DI or even more exotically, a Lohner Type L seaplane fighter...pretty cool machines....but I always was good at fantasy.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 10, 2014, 03:51:03 AM
but I always was good at fantasy.

So is Sir Peter  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on October 10, 2014, 03:56:08 AM
Yesss, yesss Preciousssss, bring on the Bergsies and the Phoenixies sooner rather than later!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on October 21, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
Hello to all,
So, I just called my old friend Peter and I said, a Breguet XIV, please. He agrees....  ;D ;D ;D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on October 21, 2014, 05:45:26 PM
After we got the DFW C.V mid and lates, one could guess/expect/demand a DFW C.V early with the blunter nose....

I think the French are sadly underrepresented, so far.

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 21, 2014, 07:55:31 PM
Ah, yeh, Sir Peter is VERY fond of the idea to have a Breguet XIV - by the way: in french and USAS guise! Same with the DH4 - british and USAS versions ahead. At least that's what he told me last night, when I dreamed of my visit at Wingnut Wings'...  ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 21, 2014, 11:27:24 PM
ere, no!
My old mate, JackO is keen on bringing out the DR.1  ;) ;D

Please please please, Sir Peter!

Von B
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 22, 2014, 01:05:02 AM
I'm pretty much a newbie here on this site. Like most here, I'm a huge fan of the WnW kits and have purchased 5 so far. I'm wondering about something that may be obvious to the rest of you, but why are there no Nieuports of any kind? Does Peter not like them? What's the inside story on this, if anyone knows?

Thanks,
George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 22, 2014, 01:47:46 AM
I'll take a WnW Nieuport 11. Actually, that's the one I was thinking about. If he has one then maybe, who knows? You're right there's no shortage, but WnW is a whole different kit than the rest.

-George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on October 22, 2014, 03:29:01 AM
I think they also have a Hanriot HD1.  Now there is one they could do...I don't know
of any in 1/32. Maybe already in Sir Peters plans??? :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 22, 2014, 04:04:49 AM
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 :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 22, 2014, 05:50:37 AM
Haha, Bo, very good: Let the good (old) times roll again and again and.. 33 1/3..!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 22, 2014, 11:30:53 AM
Just Noticed that WNW has Posted their Deadline dates for Christmas orders. Now it seems that the Speculation time is really here!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RobStewart on October 22, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
I'm going for a BE2 of one or two sorts.

Ticks all the boxes.  2 seater, not kitted very often, TVAL have some. Plenty of variants can be created with clever sprue arrangement, which WNW are famous for.

Lost of exciting marking options as it served all over the place through most of the war, and before in a few roles - including Leefe-Robinson's airship killer.

TVAL have had a couple for a while, plenty of time to make a kit from them.

The Hanriot is relatively new acquisition. Nobody needs a DR.I or a Camel.

Rob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RobStewart on October 22, 2014, 01:13:45 PM
I need a DR1!

OKOK  :D

We need a few DR.I
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on October 22, 2014, 08:24:33 PM
I'm doing the Dr.I wheels, with or without a Wingnut Wings kit on offer.

Did you all pre-order your wheels before I closed the SwS casting run?

I don't think Uncle PJ will do a Fokker Dr.I (it's a bit sad) but I still hope for a surprise.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 22, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Like Rob, I am for BE.2s. When you think of recently released Windsock Datafiles and the fact that TVAL have built some of them, then it is as sure as that Christmas is in two months time :-)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on October 22, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
I suspect that a BE2c and BE2e would be in the pattern.  Quirks for Christmas?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 23, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T0SZzH1r8dQ/VEe_xTP5NEI/AAAAAAAAVEc/IUGqTX6hREw/s1024-no/IMAGE_1451.png) ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on October 23, 2014, 06:16:45 AM
Love these guys  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 29, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
So, not having been part of the fraternity at this time last year, I have to ask....on the day that the new releases are announced, does the whole ww1ac.com forum shoot up fireworks and don twinkling lights????

Tick, tock, tick, tock....

Pretty much, but first there is ever increasing amounts of fretting and agonizing whether Santa will forget us this year. 

:)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on October 29, 2014, 06:41:19 AM
Well, what a surprise there this year by Sir P.J?

  ::) Hmmm.................I hope for a Smaug-kit with iron crosses on the wings  :P

Servus
Bilbo Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 29, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
ok,bertl we know now you have 1/32 eigenbau smaug tucked away
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 29, 2014, 01:58:02 PM
Love to see a Junkers D-1, and a DH-4..... and my Sopwith Baby.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RobStewart on October 29, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
Someone on the FB WinNuts Wings fan page posted his box art for a 1/32 Ansaldo A.1 Balilla, and said to expect an announcement on Friday.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 30, 2014, 01:28:16 AM
Someone on the FB WinNuts Wings fan page posted his box art for a 1/32 Ansaldo A.1 Balilla, and said to expect an announcement on Friday.

I saw this also. The painter says he can not reveal the company or "The impressive scale" this Model will be in. The artwork does look great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 30, 2014, 01:33:46 AM
I don't think it's gonna be WNW... Steve Anderson has done every box painting so far...

(also no confirmation of scale in the post that I saw...)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on October 30, 2014, 01:48:12 AM
If you look at Ron Cole's web site there is artwork for another 1/32 aircraft kit from a company other than WNW.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 30, 2014, 01:55:33 AM
If you look at Ron Cole's web site there is artwork for another 1/32 aircraft kit from a company other than WNW.

hmm yes good detective work...  Zoukei Mura
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: DR-I Ace on October 30, 2014, 09:50:38 AM
If you look at Ron Cole's web site there is artwork for another 1/32 aircraft kit from a company other than WNW.


What exactly is his site ?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 30, 2014, 09:54:58 AM
If you look at Ron Cole's web site there is artwork for another 1/32 aircraft kit from a company other than WNW.


What exactly is his site ?

RonCole.net
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: DR-I Ace on October 30, 2014, 10:16:14 AM
If you look at Ron Cole's web site there is artwork for another 1/32 aircraft kit from a company other than WNW.


What exactly is his site ?


RonCole.net


Thanks Bo !  Does not say a scale, but my guess is 1/32 and the Company starts with the letter A.

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on October 30, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
Azur?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 30, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
A Model would certainly make sense but I am still wondering about the "Impressive Scale" comment he made on facebook. Although 1/32nd is impressive, to me it is not unusual enough to rate that statement... not anymore anyway, thanks WNW  ;)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 30, 2014, 04:17:45 PM
hmmm friday thats soon. just in time to beat wnw frenzy. after that everyone is broke. who was it who was working on a 1/32 ansaldo master?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
AModel?

Just thought of another company that starts with an A: Aviattic  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 31, 2014, 01:39:45 AM
AModel?

Just thought of another company that starts with an A: Aviattic  8)
RAGIII

Hehe I think you might be on to something there Mr. Geisler... I seem to recall a certain scratch built project on these pages that looked an awful lot like a prototype...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 31, 2014, 02:05:50 AM
AModel?

Just thought of another company that starts with an A: Aviattic  8)
RAGIII

Hehe I think you might be on to something there Mr. Geisler... I seem to recall a certain scratch built project on these pages that looked an awful lot like a prototype...
We'll hell, I was sworn to secrecy, but it seems the cat is nearly completely out of the bag and it is almost Friday, after all.  You're right, Rick.  It'll be resin and it will be AWESOME.
Cheers,
Bud
Cheers,
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 31, 2014, 02:18:05 AM
AModel?

Just thought of another company that starts with an A: Aviattic  8)
RAGIII

Hehe I think you might be on to something there Mr. Geisler... I seem to recall a certain scratch built project on these pages that looked an awful lot like a prototype...
We'll hell, I was sworn to secrecy, but it seems the cat is nearly completely out of the bag and it is almost Friday, after all.  You're right, Rick.  It'll be resin and it will be AWESOME.
Cheers,
Bud
Cheers,

I think it's Friday somewhere :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on October 31, 2014, 02:53:34 AM
Someone on the FB WinNuts Wings fan page posted his box art for a 1/32 Ansaldo A.1 Balilla, and said to expect an announcement on Friday.
And on the FB WnW fan page -photos, among a series of shots of a fan club show last year somewhere, there on the table among other WnW kits is a built model of what looks very much like a Hansa-Brandenburg CC...maybe a little large for 1:32 but can't be sure. Also next to it is a large 2-seat triplane without upper surface markings. Sorry if this has been talked about and I missed it but I'm just really curious. I've found a 1:48 version of a HB-CC from Omega models but it's definitely not that.    -M
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 31, 2014, 02:56:13 AM
Do we know if Wingnut will be releasing a new kit tomorrow, or is this just speculation? It would be cool if they do.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on October 31, 2014, 03:12:04 AM
You'd be amazed what a chick magnet a Spandau can be.) (Wish I could find those pictures.)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 31, 2014, 03:12:43 AM
Just as a matter of interest, how long has it been that the AEG has been on their website marked as In Production?

If I'm not mistaken, about a year now. That would be really sweet if they released the AEG tomorrow.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 31, 2014, 03:14:01 AM
BTW, are there elves adding emoticons to posts? I never use them but have now had two added to my posts. Or is it merely the power of thought that causes them to materialize?

No, but if you type 3 question marks it will appear as ???

;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 31, 2014, 03:15:56 AM
Do we know if Wingnut will be releasing a new kit tomorrow, or is this just speculation? It would be cool if they do.

It's not Wingnuts, it's a company that starts with an A and has a logo remarkably similar to a famous German propeller decal :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on October 31, 2014, 03:23:57 AM
Last year (2013) WNW made their first Fall releases on Oct. 22.  We are running late this year.  The previous year they released on October 5.  However, the last two years there was not a late July release like we had this year with the DFWs.  By my count, WNW has released six (6) kits so far in 2014 (two Walfisches, the Roland D.VIb, the Albatros D.V (OAW) and the two DFWs).  Arguably, these are only two new airframes, but it's possible that we might not see another release until closer to Christmas.  I hope I'm wrong, but six boxings this year so far seems about right based on past practice, but . . . who knows!  The WNW folks work on their own whim an schedule. ;)  I have already placed a provisional WNW Be.2 on my build list, and that's what I'm hoping for. :)

In any event, the "A----" Balilla will suck up all my oxygen for the next couple of weeks anyway.  Can't wait to see how I can get my hands on one of those! :D   

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rolanddvi on October 31, 2014, 08:51:56 AM
Just looked at the Ron Cole site. Under E-Bay Store there is the painting of the Ansaldo. Item description says:

Ansaldo A.1 'Balilla' Italian World War I fighter, flown by Antonio Locatelli, with his beautifully distinctive personal markings by Ron Cole. Commissioned originally for a brand new 1/32 scale model!

Mike
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: TimK on October 31, 2014, 07:46:28 PM
Pretty sure the AEG G.IV was announced in May 2013.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on October 31, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Yes, 17 May 2013 at the 2013 Shizuoka Hobby Show in Japan

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKWxUycCQAEI-r6.jpg)

It was displayed at the Wellington Model Expo earlier this year where I took these photos:

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20AEG%20GIV/AEG9.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20AEG%20GIV/AEG7.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20AEG%20GIV/AEG6.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on October 31, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
Hello to all,
I just read that the release for this year would be a Ansaldo A1 Balilla on Wingnut wings fans facebook.
Impatient seing the pictures.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 31, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
Hello to all,
I just read that the release for this year would be a Ansaldo A1 Balilla on Wingnut wings fans facebook.
Impatient seing the pictures.
Best regards.
Alain.

No need to be impatient. Pictures have been here (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3509.0) for many weeks. ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 01, 2014, 02:27:25 AM
Woo hoo!

Aviattic Ansaldo Balilla A.1

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.699254476837828.1073741865.377520989011180&type=1
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dekenba on November 01, 2014, 02:29:40 AM
I hope for their sake that WNW are not working on the same kit....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 01, 2014, 02:35:51 AM
I hope for their sake that WNW are not working on the same kit....

Who knows, but I strongly doubt it -- it's outside the box for PJ & company I think
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 01, 2014, 02:56:06 AM
I hope for their sake that WNW are not working on the same kit....
Extremely unlikely.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on November 01, 2014, 03:47:19 AM
What great news! The Aviattic Ansaldo Balilla A.1, which looks like a gem,
and the Wingnuts "surprise" still to come.  YUM! :D ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rlrimell on November 01, 2014, 07:01:39 AM
Hi Guys,

 ;)

Cheers,

Ray R.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 01, 2014, 07:45:50 AM
Hi Guys,

 ;)

Cheers,

Ray R.
Alright, then.  A wink is as good as nod...
A BE2e is on my Christmas wish list.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 01, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
Ray means the AEG ...................... I hope............  ???

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 01, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
I have a sneaky feeling there will be an  announcement on Monday morning, 3rd November  NZ time  :)

VB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 02, 2014, 02:21:14 AM
I have a sneaky feeling there will be an  announcement on Monday morning, 3rd November  NZ time  :)

VB
I hope so I'm getting earache from the family about what to get me for Xmas otherwise I'll have to choose something!  :o (or end up with pants n sox again)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 04, 2014, 08:54:18 AM
I have a sneaky feeling there will be an  announcement on Monday morning, 3rd November  NZ time  :)

VB

(http://blog.princetontutoring.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/wrong-answer.png)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on November 04, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Is it my imagination or has the layout and selection of the WnW home page changed in the last few days? It's time to be at desks in Wellington so maybe this is the day things happen.

Why does all of this speculation remind me of when I was wondering if I'd get a Davy Crocket coonskin cap for Christmas? And I never did.

???? from NYC,
Michael

Yup, the layout has change.  Nothing new though.  I though it funny that the Junkers J.1,  is featured on the page.  They must still have a bunch they're trying to get rid of.   :)

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 04, 2014, 11:20:14 AM
Is it my imagination or has the layout and selection of the WnW home page changed in the last few days? It's time to be at desks in Wellington so maybe this is the day things happen.

Why does all of this speculation remind me of when I was wondering if I'd get a Davy Crocket coonskin cap for Christmas? And I never did.

???? from NYC,
Michael
Not your imagination, Michael, they shuffled it a bit...no idea why they'd do that..just to show something's afoot?.....and can you still sing the Davy Crocket theme song?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Mark on November 04, 2014, 12:35:43 PM
*clears my throat . . . .*

Born on a mountain top in Tennessee,
 Greenest state in the land of the free.
 Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
 Killed him a bear when he was only three.
 Davy, Davy Crockett King of the Wild Frontier.

He fought single handed through the Injun war,
 Till the Creeks was whipped and peace was restored.
 And while he was handling this risky chore,
 Made himself a legend, forevermore.
 Davy, Davy Crockett the man who don't know fear.

When he lost his love, and his grief was gall,
 In his heart he wanted to leave it all,
 And lose himself in the forest tall,
 But he answered instead, his country's call.
 Davy, Davy Crockett, the choice of the whole frontier

He went off to Congress and served a spell
 Fixin' up the government and laws as well.
 Took over Washington, so we hear tell,
 And patched up the crack in the Liberty Bell.
 Davy, Davy Crockett, seein' his duty clear. (Serving his country well)

When he come home, his politickin' done,
 The western march had just begun.
 So he packed his gear, and his trusty gun
 And lit out a grinnin' to follow the sun.
 Davy, Davy Crockett, Leadin the Pioneers.

His land is biggest, and his land is best
 From grassy plains to the mountain crest
 He's ahead of us all in meeting the test
 Followin' his legend right into the West
 Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wide Frontier
 King of the Wild Frontier.

*bows*
 8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 04, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
Is it my imagination or has the layout and selection of the WnW home page changed in the last few days? It's time to be at desks in Wellington so maybe this is the day things happen.

Why does all of this speculation remind me of when I was wondering if I'd get a Davy Crocket coonskin cap for Christmas? And I never did.

???? from NYC,
Michael
Not your imagination, Michael, they shuffled it a bit...no idea why they'd do that..just to show something's afoot?.....and can you still sing the Davy Crocket theme song?

It has changed at least 3 times in the last week or so. 3 in a row, 2 in a row, back to 3 etc. I think it is certainly a Mind Teaser!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 04, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
I think we should start a new contest: guess the next WNW release. Not what you are hoping for (ZZZZZZzzzzzz) but what you really bet the next kit will be.

I'll go first:

Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on November 04, 2014, 02:40:10 PM
I say guess the next WNW featured releases an guess how many times the featured releases change in a week.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 04, 2014, 02:53:46 PM
I am guessing the AEG, BE2E, and Fokker DVIII will be released by January 1st  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on November 04, 2014, 05:03:17 PM
My guess:

DFW C.V early
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 04, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
BE.2f or similar
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 04, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
Well I'm so hoping for some sort of BE2, but it's surely time to saddle up that Camel, Red Baron. There's only so much lozenge that a person can take!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: acewwi on November 04, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
My guess:
Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter (two versions)
BE2e or f
and the Christmas suprise: Halberstat CL.II

Spyros
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pavlos on November 04, 2014, 07:34:57 PM
Well, here we go again  :D

For sure we will have the Be-2E/F as the windsock title is already here.

Next? I hope that the Camel, Vickers Gunbus or the Br14 will be the Santa Claus surprise!
I wonder if WnW thinks of a free kit for every correct guess  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on November 04, 2014, 11:06:29 PM
Albatros CIII because, why not?  ;)
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on November 05, 2014, 12:11:35 AM
My guess would be:

AEG
Be2
DFW C.V Early

Longshot - Albatros D.I or D.III
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 05, 2014, 01:05:42 AM
My guess would be:

AEG
Be2
DFW C.V Early

Longshot - Albatros D.I or D.III

That's four guesses!  ;)
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on November 05, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
Sorry, should have msde it plural.

I think a huge surprise would be a Friedrichshafen G.III

If I hsd to make only one guess, it would be the  AEG.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 05, 2014, 01:19:41 AM
Sorry, should have msde it plural.

I think a huge surprise would be a Friedrichshafen G.III

If I hsd to make only one guess, it would be the  AEG.

Should we make this interesting? I will throw in a prize. :)

Proposed rules:

Member guesses kit subject (1 guess only) along with kit number. No two members can guess the same combination of kit number and subject, but kit number used only in case of tie, closest without going over decides. Subject to be stated in the form of aircraft manufacturer and model.

In the event WNW issues multiple kits at once, the kit with the lowest kit number will count as the correct answer.

If this sounds like fun and it is ok with Des, I will start a new topic in Time to Relax and announce the prize.

Please hold off with your entries here until we get the go-ahead from the boss. :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on November 05, 2014, 03:22:15 AM
I want something Austro-Hungarian.  Would love to see the Aviatik-Berg released.  I just love that flying "Ford-Model-T" look of the early series machines with the design of the radiator in front.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on November 05, 2014, 03:54:11 AM
Eric....right there with you mate!  Some terrific markings plus they're pretty under represented in our corner of the modeling world.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 05, 2014, 03:57:14 AM
Sorry, should have msde it plural.

I think a huge surprise would be a Friedrichshafen G.III

If I hsd to make only one guess, it would be the  AEG.
I agree...I say it pretty much has to be the AEG....been sittin' there as 'in development' too long...and James, that quote..."axes grind and maces clash"...very curious...what's that from?...had to ask because it pretty much describes any and all of my family's holiday gatherings. 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 05, 2014, 04:42:42 AM
My bet is for a junkers j1 late model ...
Will it be the first royal class WNW model?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on November 05, 2014, 04:56:42 AM
Sorry, should have msde it plural.

I think a huge surprise would be a Friedrichshafen G.III

If I hsd to make only one guess, it would be the  AEG.
I agree...I say it pretty much has to be the AEG....been sittin' there as 'in development' too long...and James, that quote..."axes grind and maces clash"...very curious...what's that from?...had to ask because it pretty much describes any and all of my family's holiday gatherings.

Axes Grind and maces clash is a line from the Iron Maiden song Invaders. A song about the Viking invasions of England.  Iron Maiden are my favorite band.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on November 05, 2014, 07:49:50 AM
The question is...just one AEG or more than one version?  Why else would it be in development for two tears?  Just sayin...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 05, 2014, 08:22:07 AM
Thanks Bo for your generous offer but another competition would not be beneficial at this time, we already have two running at present. It is only about two or three weeks before Wingnuts release their Christmas issue so in a very short time we will all know what the big "surprises" will be.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on November 06, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
Yup.  I check at least 5 times a day. ;D

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on November 06, 2014, 03:08:37 PM
I think the Wingnuts crew really doesn't  understand how much I need a F.1/Dr.1

And it's nearing Christmas for Pete's sake!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 06, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
I don't check the website anymore - I come on here to find out if any news has surfaced.  ;)

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on November 06, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
I think the alarms would go off on facebook if something would be announced over at WNW. No need to check there daily.

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 06, 2014, 06:49:28 PM
I don't check the website anymore - I come on here to find out if any news has surfaced.  ;)

vB

I do absolutely the same as Mr. Bob von Wiseweasel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 06, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
And I do both...  :D  Every morning  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on November 06, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
Me too.  I usually find out here first. ;D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on November 06, 2014, 10:13:09 PM
Maybe they are waiting for Remembrance day , 11th November?

Would seem an appropriate date esp after this weekend's show at Telford.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 07, 2014, 01:58:08 AM
Wonder if Richard Alexander checks these hallowed pages at all and is aware of this anticipatory squirming he and his mates cause. I bet he does...right, Des? It'd have to cause a bit of chuckle for him, wouldn't it....it is great fun.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 07, 2014, 03:53:05 AM
'Releases' plural? Well that alone would be good news and in keeping with previous years.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 07, 2014, 04:44:20 AM
I still think it's too early for any news. Wasn't it last year where the new releases came out just a hair before the shipping dates closed for North America? If so, we're looking at early December by my reckoning. However, I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on November 07, 2014, 06:48:21 AM
Yes Chris you're correct. Its a bit too soon I reckon
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on November 07, 2014, 08:49:12 AM
 ::)I can't help myself...I...must...check. :-[ ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Profa on November 07, 2014, 07:19:34 PM
Since this is the first time EVER that I'm thinking of that scale at all, I'm in doubt whether to order something available now or to wait for new release(s) ::)...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 07, 2014, 07:58:16 PM
If ever there was time for a famous quote, now is the time...

“I can resist anything except temptation.”
― Oscar Wilde

 ;D :D ;)

InTheWings4aNewWingnut
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 07, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Since this is the first time EVER that I'm thinking of that scale at all, I'm in doubt whether to order something available now or to wait for new release(s) ::)...

If I were you I would definitely jump on one of the older releases if you fancy one of them-- they do tend to sell out eventually! There are a lot of sad modellers here who wished they had bought an LVG, RE8 or Brandenburg when they had the chance :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 07, 2014, 09:24:54 PM
Since this is the first time EVER that I'm thinking of that scale at all, I'm in doubt whether to order something available now or to wait for new release(s) ::)...

If I were you I would definitely jump on one of the older releases if you fancy one of them-- they do tend to sell out eventually! There are a lot of sad modellers here who wished they had bought an LVG, RE8 or Brandenburg when they had the chance :)

Listen to the wise man words! I am still kicking my ass for not getting the LVG :-/
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on November 07, 2014, 11:56:53 PM
     Add mine as well to support of Bo's recommendation. I can name THREE that I regret missing very much! :( :'( The new Releases will be around for a good while, some of the older Kits will be sold out very soon!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on November 08, 2014, 04:58:02 AM
     Add mine as well to support of Bo's recommendation. I can name THREE that I regret missing very much! :( :'( The new Releases will be around for a good while, some of the older Kits will be sold out very soon!
Cheers,
Lance
Yes. Get what you want now. Sales will increase for Christmas on all kits. I'm still berating myself for holding up on a Harry Tate.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on November 15, 2014, 03:06:22 AM
I guess WNW speculation has come to a grinding halt? 
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on November 15, 2014, 03:19:26 AM
Seems that way. I'm thinking the A.E.G. will be the next to come out.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 15, 2014, 03:22:13 AM
The AEG ..............................and as an christmas surprise the Halberstadt CL.II  -  I hope! ::)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 15, 2014, 04:08:30 AM
It seems that this year's surprise will be that...there is no release before christmass :(
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 15, 2014, 04:11:48 AM
Sasho, you destroy my whole anticipation.  >:(   ;D

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 15, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
I guess WNW speculation has come to a grinding halt?
And all it took, oldalbie, was for you to make note of that and off we go again...Sliding into mid-November...time's a-wasting...gotta be nigh.....AEG and a jolly huge surprise....and what I'd really love is at least a handful of resin figures...way overdue.   -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on November 15, 2014, 07:09:12 AM
So glad I could help!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on November 15, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
Given the quality of Wingnuts Wings kits I suspect they will release new kits when they are right and ready. Rushing to meet an unnecessary deadline is not conducive to quality.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 15, 2014, 11:03:57 AM
I know I have already given a couple of opinions but what the heck it is speculation  ::) So my random thoughts:
BE2 because Ray has done the Data File....
AEG or Camel because they are announced and have been in the works for a while now.
Sopwith Strutter because it is one of the 2 Major Sopwith family birds  not accounted for, the other being a Dolphin.( Also a great restoration available to scan)
Fokker DR1 because it would fit so well with that Camel
Fokker EV/DVIII because TVAL has one and it would complete the MAJOR Fokker Birds. ( Plus it has only been kitted by the Avis( A lot of Roden DR1 parts), and the very limited and POOR ( Damn Senior Moment , I can't remember the name of the Manufacturer  :-[ )


RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rolanddvi on November 15, 2014, 11:15:17 AM
Battle Axe?

Mike
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 15, 2014, 11:20:25 AM
Battle Axe?

Mike

Thanks Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on November 16, 2014, 01:22:35 AM
Don't forget there are the two post war variations of the Brisfit and DH9A in the pattern.

My guess is that there is more than likely allied aircraft on the horizon and I suspect it would be the BE2.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Terri on November 16, 2014, 10:37:21 PM
I think if you guy's don't hear something soon , you'll be going through withdraws  :o






Terri
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on November 16, 2014, 10:41:52 PM
I think if you guy's don't hear something soon , you'll be going through withdraws  :o


Terri

The shakes have already started, Terri. ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 17, 2014, 02:10:44 AM
I'm keeping an open mind with enough good will from SWMBO to beg for an AEG, anything else short of an earlier Albatros mark can wait till the xmas rush is over.

Option 2 is Hannants have the 1/35th PT-109 kit by Italeri marked down to 66% so may get that for the stash... shocking I know and sorry to mention floaty things on the forum  ::)


Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 17, 2014, 03:09:20 AM
Surely it's time to dust off those PC10, PC12 and clear doped linen paints, or even to give the new AVIATTIC finishes a go?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 17, 2014, 03:42:57 AM
Perhaps an Albatros C.III  with a nice wooden fuselage - wings, rudder and tailplane covered with Aviattic clear doped linen?  ;D

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on November 17, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
Well, the announcement of the H-B early ends this speculation!

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 17, 2014, 09:38:54 AM
Well, the announcement of the H-B early ends this speculation!

Warren

Ta Dah! ;)

despite my last post I succumbed and SWMBO obliged and ordered it. :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
Well, the announcement of the H-B early ends this speculation!

Warren

Not quite Warren. We still need to speculate and debate if there will be more.... 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: JastaB on November 17, 2014, 03:15:52 PM
Well... the W.12 early is on sale for Christmas. I ordered mine this evening!!!!!

Tim
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 17, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
I did NOT see that coming! :o
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 17, 2014, 05:00:08 PM
A real surprise. I still have to debate if I want this one. + a seaplane, - so little rigging....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 17, 2014, 05:45:23 PM
I will buy one, but not until the spring. I'm a very patient man  ;)

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 17, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
A real surprise. I still have to debate if I want this one. + a seaplane, - so little rigging....

My thoughts exactly, probably I will be getting some of the old ones instead - like the Fe.2b or the DH.2
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 17, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
My second impression - the most thrilling aspect of the new WNW release is the artbox. Do they plan a Felixstowe???
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: TomR1981 on November 17, 2014, 10:52:14 PM
This is one I've been waiting for.

Just got the email from WNW announcing it. And the D.VII (Fok) really is now sold out. That was quick. I wonder if they made a lot more Albatros kits or if the D.VII is that much more popular.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on November 17, 2014, 11:54:18 PM
     My thoughts as well; I would have thought the Albies would have sold out long before the D.VIIs started falling off the list. Does anyone have any idea of how many kits would be/were produced? :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: IvotB on November 18, 2014, 01:01:21 AM
Nice to note that this release is an (Early) version. That leaves room for a late version. I have read that the late version has a longer fuselage, different cabane struts and ailerons on upper and lower wings.

I'm in for a late version. There has been one flying with orange cockardes.


Regards,
Ivo
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on November 18, 2014, 01:45:09 AM
I'm assuming that all the box contents are the same its just the decals that change so if I had my heart set on doing a fok version I'd just need some AM decals and away I go.



shuffles off to order a W.12 and D.vii just in case.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 18, 2014, 02:23:42 AM
I'm assuming that all the box contents are the same its just the decals that change so if I had my heart set on doing a fok version I'd just need some AM decals and away I go.



shuffles off to order a W.12 and D.vii just in case.


Cowlings and rad too depending on which you choose to do. Nothing too difficult though and there must be a wealth of spares amongst us to play swapsies with people.

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 18, 2014, 02:26:18 AM
I'm in the group thinking that Albies would have been long gone. So many markings options, with so much color, and the same with DVIIs. I guess I'll have to plan a couple more to add to the shelf; DVIIs that is.  The DVII looks to have all the bits for each version, less decals. If you have the instructions for the Fok version you ought to be good. Like the Albie.
 I see I'm not alone wondering about the Felixstowe in the background of the HB boxart. The Gotha, and AEG point to working out the engineering for larger machines, and a Felixstowe would be along the lines of the HK B-25 methinks.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2014, 03:14:49 AM
I'm in the group thinking that Albies would have been long gone. So many markings options, with so much color, and the same with DVIIs. I guess I'll have to plan a couple more to add to the shelf; DVIIs that is.  The DVII looks to have all the bits for each version, less decals. If you have the instructions for the Fok version you ought to be good. Like the Albie.
 I see I'm not alone wondering about the Felixstowe in the background of the HB boxart. The Gotha, and AEG point to working out the engineering for larger machines, and a Felixstowe would be along the lines of the HK B-25 methinks.

As said earlier the DVIIs do have different cowl side panel and upper panel options in each release. As an illustration I screwed up the right upper cowl on my current DVII build. NO problem just go through the spares and find the matching one right? Wrong. I ended up having to use the only similar one from three DVII kits requiring me to sand off louvers that weren't on mine. The fortunate thing is that one can hopefully pick up spares from others as already stated.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on November 18, 2014, 03:28:52 AM
I really thought in the game of 'Naughts and Crosses' that the next release would have a cockade.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flip Hendrickx on November 18, 2014, 03:54:51 AM
ordered mine as well! :-)

Quote
the most thrilling aspect of the new WNW release is the artbox. Do they plan a Felixstowe???

Ahh, hoping for that one as well!!!

Grtz

Flip
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chuckt5 on November 18, 2014, 05:45:54 AM
Bring on the Felixstowe!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 18, 2014, 06:42:55 AM
Rick, I'll keep that in mind about the cowls. Thank you for the reminder.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 18, 2014, 10:13:47 AM
I was wondering about that kit. I have one of each of the others, and may order a F along with an OAW, which should give me lots of extra bits.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on November 19, 2014, 01:01:33 AM
I'm in the group thinking that Albies would have been long gone. So many markings options, with so much color, and the same with DVIIs. I guess I'll have to plan a couple more to add to the shelf; DVIIs that is.  The DVII looks to have all the bits for each version, less decals. If you have the instructions for the Fok version you ought to be good. Like the Albie.
 I see I'm not alone wondering about the Felixstowe in the background of the HB boxart. The Gotha, and AEG point to working out the engineering for larger machines, and a Felixstowe would be along the lines of the HK B-25 methinks.


Actually the Wingspan of a Gotha is longer than that of a B-25...A B-25 has a wingspan of 68' (21m)  and the Gotha 78' (24m)  the fuselage on the B-25 is a little longer about 13' ( a little over 4m).  The Felixstowe is almost the size of a B-17, the Felixstowe wingspan is only about 10' shorter (a little over 3m) only about 3 3/4" inches shorter in scale, very very close to the same size....it would be pretty huge
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 19, 2014, 03:19:12 AM
Yes, it would be .....rather large, but what a project!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 19, 2014, 05:04:12 AM
You guys got me a bit curious about the Felixstowe so I went to Wikipedia and found this version of them; A Felixstowe Porte Baby...meant pretty much for a situation that was waaaaay ahead of it's time (talk about the crazy fast evolvement of WWI aircraft): a piggy-back of a scout...a Bristol Scout..on the top wing to launch from the air...had no idea...fascinating. Sorry to diverge from the WnW thread...couldn't resist.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felixstowe_Porte_Baby
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 19, 2014, 06:38:19 AM
Yes, it would be .....rather large, but what a project!

Felixstowe in 1/32 would be a 35" wingspan, 6" more than the Gotha - it would be incredible. Such great schemes for it also with all of the stripes and such on the fuselage. Not sure WNW plan another huge kit but my fingers are crossed that if they do, they consider this aircraft....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 19, 2014, 07:38:56 AM
Interesting that in all the pre-H.B. release no one ever mentioned a Felixstowe ...

Felixstowe has come up many times in the past on the bazillion WNW wish-list threads here ;)

(There used to be a Wing Nut Wings News thread here that was basically a wish-list thread, and there have been many others… including this one from time to time :) )

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 19, 2014, 08:15:21 AM
Bo, the Wingnuts News topic is still active, it has just moved down the list a bit because of inactivity, here is the link;  http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=492.0

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on November 19, 2014, 08:43:29 AM
The Felixstowe is for me the perfect combination of interests all contained within one aesthetic: one part sailing ship and one part aircraft.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 19, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
...and built like a tank, and with racing stripes- go figure.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Bluesfan on November 19, 2014, 10:41:48 PM
And in case they take any note of numbers, here's another Felixstowe fan post.
If we were so fortunate as to be offered this, I absolutely would shell out for it (my guess, somewhere short of but hopefully not reaching, $200), and it wouldn't stay in my stash for long. Have I room for it? Somehow, I would find it!
I'd also stump up for a display case - I couldn't bear the thought of all the dust. All sorts of great dioramas come to mind. I reckon we'd need major supplies of silicone sealant ;)
So... there is that theory, isn't there, that types which appear in box art backgrounds have a good chance of appearing in plastic some time later...

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 19, 2014, 11:01:31 PM
I think that "theory" is really just wishful thinking. The releases as they have come haven't borne it out in any way, have they? If true you would expect we would have a SPAD 7 (appears twice), Dr.I (ditto) Be2c... Etc. No box art precedent for DFW, Roland, DH9, W.12 etc etc
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on November 20, 2014, 12:08:09 AM
Everyone used to say that about the old box art for the DML (Dragon) tank kits in the 90's and it never really worked out that way.  People use to say they previewed their next releases in the background.  Sometimes it worked out, with the tanks eventually everything got released...again and again and again :^)   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Bluesfan on November 20, 2014, 01:10:12 AM
Too true, Bo and Zavod :)
Fraid just seeing the word 'Felixstowe' somehow presses my wishful thinking button
Being more realistic, in particular about what huge and risky investments these big multi-engine types are, I'm not sure if we can expect any more such kits after the AEG arrives, except maybe a Gotha G.V.
And on that bleak note... But still happy that we're getting any of these wonderful kits at all

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 20, 2014, 02:14:18 AM

Being more realistic, in particular about what huge and risky investments these big multi-engine types are, I'm not sure if we can expect any more such kits after the AEG arrives, except maybe a Gotha G.V.
And on that bleak note... But still happy that we're getting any of these wonderful kits at all

Mark

I dunno Mark, they've always said what gets kitted is based on what Sir PJ fancies; economics seems to take a back seat. I wouldn't rule out a Felixstowe or an HP 0/400 for that matter; these are icons -- but massive engineering challenges in scale plastic I would think... Now what would be really cool:-- a Riesenflugzeug!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 20, 2014, 03:15:15 AM
Time to hold our nerve, I think. The WNW last posting date for the rest of the world is 3 December so we still have some time. Besides, when did they last release something in lovely PC10 or 12? Was it really the 'Ninak' ? Enough of this lozenge frippery (well until the New Year anyway)!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 20, 2014, 04:11:03 AM
Let us wait a little, it is not yet December 3rd.
The W.12 is the Christmas release, not the Christmas surprise.  8)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 20, 2014, 04:32:30 AM
Yeah I am worried about some of those kits from the first WNW release group ones being gone - probably will place an order soon but was sorta holding out to see if there was going to be any other late year releases aside from the W12...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 20, 2014, 04:53:31 AM
Here's some more baseless speculation -

heh i thought exactly the same thing …

here is the list for you panic buyers :)

32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV            US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane         US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V        US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok)        US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va        US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb)        US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW)    US$79
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on November 20, 2014, 05:20:24 AM
Let us wait a little, it is not yet December 3rd.
The W.12 is the Christmas release, not the Christmas surprise.  8)

Servus
Bertl

Yes, let us hope there will be a: Christmas Surprise
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2014, 09:12:32 AM
Here's some more baseless speculation - a little while ago there was a 'glitsch' with the Wingnuts website whereby a few kits went 'Sold Out'. The first one to do so was the Fokker DVII (Fok) that now has really sold out. Maybe that was triggered by something shifting a decimal place or something, pushing the low stock kits 'over the edge' so to speak. Maybe the others that were affected that time will go the same way soon...?

Now that is interesting baseless thinking! Does anyone remember the other couple of kits that showed up Sold out!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2014, 09:18:35 AM
Here is another thing to ponder. Other than the Virtual Identical OAW Alabatros DVa kit, and the Roland DVIb, it seems awhile since the last single seat fighter issue! Was  the Snipe the last totally new one ? Seems time for a fighter type to me  :-X
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
Here's some more baseless speculation - a little while ago there was a 'glitsch' with the Wingnuts website whereby a few kits went 'Sold Out'. The first one to do so was the Fokker DVII (Fok) that now has really sold out. Maybe that was triggered by something shifting a decimal place or something, pushing the low stock kits 'over the edge' so to speak. Maybe the others that were affected that time will go the same way soon...?

Now that is interesting baseless thinking! Does anyone remember the other couple of kits that showed up Sold out!
RAGIII


See Bo's post above...

Well I guess I totally misread Bos post. I thought those were his picks for next to go. It didn't seem as though all of those were on that Out of Stock list. Thanks for the Clarification,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 20, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
Saw this on another model site regarding the AEG -

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3094

Unfortunately tooling problems and production delays mean that this model will now be released in January or February 2015.


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 20, 2014, 12:01:49 PM
I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on November 20, 2014, 12:06:08 PM
OK, after years of resisting the tempation, I finally took the plunge and ordered some kits for the stash.  :o

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rolanddvi on November 20, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
I do like the W.12 but for me the dilemma is, given that I build at the pace of a glacier  :), and I have 28 WNW in the stash ::), should I buy this newest one? I could buy it and never get to it. Or like a few previous releases wait and hemhaw around until it goes out of stock and be disappointed that I waited too long. What to do?????

Mike
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 20, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Back in 2013 when Wingnuts first announced the AEG and showed test shots of the kit they said that it would be released in 2015, so it appears the pre christmas release would have come a surprise to everyone, putting it back a few months just puts it back to the original release time, roughly.

I purchased a brand new unopened Gotha for $95, considerably cheaper than the advertised Wingnuts price, I made my purchase on eBay. There are bargains to be had, just have to be in the right place at the right time, I also picked up an OOP LVG for just over $100, a little more than the original Wingnuts price but still a lot better than what some kits have been selling for.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 20, 2014, 03:19:35 PM
Re: AEG delay.....isn't this the first time ever WnW has actually made any sort of announcement as to when a kit was to actually be released??


Um not really, last year they did quite a little tease with the release of the Salmson ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on November 20, 2014, 10:32:44 PM
I spend a fair amount of time on eBay and I have yet to see any WnW kit sell for less than its original price.

If you search closed auctions for wingnut Fokker (fok), you'll see three D.VII (Fokker) kits that have sold for less than their $79 list price recently, even before subtracting the 13% that eBay and PayPal charge the seller.  Of course the D.VII will now escalate in price, but WNW kits definitely do sell below MSRP at times.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=wingnut+fokker+%28fok%29&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=wingnut+fokker+%28fok%29&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on November 21, 2014, 12:43:56 AM
I do like the W.12 but for me the dilemma is, given that I build at the pace of a glacier  :), and I have 28 WNW in the stash ::), should I buy this newest one? I could buy it and never get to it. Or like a few previous releases wait and hemhaw around until it goes out of stock and be disappointed that I waited too long. What to do?????

Mike

Hi Mike:

I feel your pain.  I don't have as many as you in my stash, but; I have a good supply.  I have cut back on my buying.  As I have so many in the stash, I am going to concentrate on building models, rather than building a stash.  What to do you ask?  Build and have fun.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on November 21, 2014, 02:53:10 AM
Hello to all,
I do like the W.12 but for me the dilemma is, given that I build at the pace of a glacier  :), and I have 28 WNW in the stash ::), should I buy this newest one? I could buy it and never get to it. Or like a few previous releases wait and hemhaw around until it goes out of stock and be disappointed that I waited too long. What to do?????

Mike
I can help you buying your stash overflow... ;D ;D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on November 21, 2014, 04:39:04 AM
I spend a fair amount of time on eBay and I have yet to see any WnW kit sell for less than its original price.

If you search closed auctions for wingnut Fokker (fok), you'll see three D.VII (Fokker) kits that have sold for less than their $79 list price recently, even before subtracting the 13% that eBay and PayPal charge the seller.  Of course the D.VII will now escalate in price, but WNW kits definitely do sell below MSRP at times.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=wingnut+fokker+%28fok%29&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=wingnut+fokker+%28fok%29&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc)

Peter

When you take into account shipping costs, WNW kits sell either very near or above MSRP.  This is true almost without exception.  I can think of about one kit in 30 that I have seen or have purchased below MSRP.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on November 21, 2014, 05:36:25 AM
I feel bad for the seller of the $55 D.VII.  If he'd waited just a bit longer to sell, he'd have been all set.

Not only will the D.VII (Fok) prices escalate sharply, but I'm guessing the W.29 prices will too, now that the W.12 has been released.  Folks who buy a W.12 will likely look for a W.29 to go with it.  I didn't discover WNW until after the W.29 had sold out, but I was lucky to get one for a (relatively) reasonable price.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: sobrien on November 21, 2014, 06:36:14 AM
I sold my WNW Fokker D.VII(Fok) on Ebay when I didn't have a job thinking I would be able to get it again because I knew there would be plenty of them. Oh well. I did get 97 dollars for it, but now I miss it so.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on November 21, 2014, 07:47:07 AM
I feel bad for the seller of the $55 D.VII.  If he'd waited just a bit longer to sell, he'd have been all set.

Not only will the D.VII (Fok) prices escalate sharply, but I'm guessing the W.29 prices will too, now that the W.12 has been released.  Folks who buy a W.12 will likely look for a W.29 to go with it.  I didn't discover WNW until after the W.29 had sold out, but I was lucky to get one for a (relatively) reasonable price.

Peter

I'd have said it would have the opposite effect. I was craving a float plane and kicking myself for missing the W29. Now I've ordered a W.12 my need for the W.29 has gone completely. Saying that I now want a fok d.vii, that I was a bit meh about 7 days ago.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on November 21, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
Well on the bright side there are still 17 un announced #'s to be filled!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 21, 2014, 09:06:45 AM
Well on the bright side there are still 17 un announced 3's to be filled!

I wish Des would update his cool chart with box art of the filled and missing kit numbers (hint hint  :D )
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 21, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
Here you go Bo.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UosJ69kt3Yk/VG6GE1BkZXI/AAAAAAAAPjU/wb3QeKHDKWE/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252063.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ktCmtqFdzYE/VG6GMu3UIDI/AAAAAAAAPjc/3C_Nh8bAt9o/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252060.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-orodHHLBjfE/VG_VTBdKt3I/AAAAAAAAPlw/AHPv2ixVSI4/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252067.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 21, 2014, 10:52:26 AM
Thanks Des  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 21, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
That is indeed very helpful, Des, thank you! And thank you, Bo, for suggesting it....

Since you seem to have a magic touch, do you have any suggestions for tomorrow's Power Ball lottery????

Des, got to agree ! Very helpful and very quick! I also could use those power ball numbers !
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on November 21, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
It was originally $89 and has sold for over $400.   :P

WOW!

I've got both, the nasty little sea-plane and also the LVG C.VI, what do you reckon I'd get if I flogged them both off?   :P

'Success flourishes with Rachel - my P.A. and Entertainment Manager'



Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 21, 2014, 02:58:59 PM
It was originally $89 and has sold for over $400.   :P

WOW!

I've got both, the nasty little sea-plane and also the LVG C.VI, what do you reckon I'd get if I flogged them both off?   :P

Depends entirely on whether you show a picture of Rachel with the kits.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 21, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
alternatively, I traded my LVG for 3 Albatri. Lots of building there I reckon.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Steven Robson on November 21, 2014, 03:15:31 PM
It was originally $89 and has sold for over $400.   :P

WOW!

I've got both, the nasty little sea-plane and also the LVG C.VI, what do you reckon I'd get if I flogged them both off?   :P

Depends entirely on whether you show a picture of Rachel with the kits.

Hmmm, a photo of Rachel with my lovely pair of kits.  I'd get banished and, errrr, sent to a penal colony in Australia.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on November 21, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
Hello to all,
Thanks Des, very useful. Two informations. At firts, I wrote two years ago to WnW because I wanted to know about sold out kits. Richard Alexander mailed me that they'll be produced again in "luxury boxes" with PE and resin. Yesterday, I saw a message on Master194 saying there's a vote on Large Scale Plane where Richard Alexander tell WnW will produce a Camel. So let wait and see.
I was lucky enough to buy a W29 (but I missed LVG) three years ago so, I'll buy the W12. I love boat planes.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 21, 2014, 05:29:26 PM
Steven, I don't think Des is ready for those kind of nipples! hahahahah

Von GreaseNippleMerchant   ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 21, 2014, 05:38:34 PM
Tread very carefully Steven, very very carefully...........

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 21, 2014, 05:44:43 PM
....very carefully... LOL
(http://www.dassbikes.com/images/grease-nipple-602.jpg)

bVB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 21, 2014, 06:21:21 PM
Anyhow, getting this topic back on track - I speculate that within the next two weeks we will see the release of a Be2.  ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lorenzo on November 21, 2014, 07:10:49 PM
I think we know the WNW 32033 ( look at the sprue H of Roland CIIa late on WNW site).  It will be a Roland CII a early


Laurent.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on November 21, 2014, 07:17:27 PM
There is definitely a third Roland, WNW thought launching three at once might have been too much for the market to digest. As to when it might be released, no idea.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 21, 2014, 08:13:26 PM
That's what I'm banking on Des, before I commit any money to anything else.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2014, 08:29:13 PM
I sure hope any Christmas surprise release is not yet another Roland C.II. I like the aircraft and bought both versions WNW produced but I don't want/ need a third variant.

I'm hoping for something British this Christmas, a Be2 would be most welcome as would a Camel, especially a Camel Night Fighter variant. Or a Fokker E.V would be fine too.

If the surprise release is just another German two seater - and a rough head count of the catalogue shows they have produced 11 German two seaters to date - I would pass and spend the remaining Christmas models budget on some more items from the spectacular Tommys War range of figures, vehicles and artillery pieces.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 22, 2014, 12:24:06 AM
This sounds so definitive, Michael. If it is true, then it looks like late DFW C.V to be built in Polish markings will be my Christmas gift. Not too bad, after all.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on November 22, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
I don't know if anybody has mentioned this so far, but doesn't the release of an H-B W.12 (Early), rather indicate the likelihood of an H-B W.12 (Late) at some stage? I'd hold out for that on the basis that WNW are maybe likely to stuff the box full of more goodies to tempt a second purchase!

My wishlist would be for a Dolphin,  some BE2s and some Austro-Hungarians - Phonix, Berg, Starstrutter or maybe even a C-type.
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 22, 2014, 01:20:02 AM
just received my e-copy of FIne Scale Modeller and this is on pg.2!
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Untitled_zps3e45107e.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on November 22, 2014, 01:23:13 AM
 :o

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 22, 2014, 01:29:28 AM
So, now I need the space in the garage - the car will have to stay outdoors.  :o

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 22, 2014, 01:33:47 AM
Very impressive and BOLD release! That being said it clears the way for me to order those older kits I spoke of....
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on November 22, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Is this one of those Photoshopped images?  I remember BO did one of the Sopwith Camel.  Had everyone in a tizzy!
I would not put it past WNW to realease this.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 01:34:38 AM
I didn't do this one ...  :o
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 22, 2014, 01:36:23 AM
If photoshopped it is very well done.

Very exciting if true though
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on November 22, 2014, 01:39:18 AM
If it is true, it's a monumental timing screw-up on WNW's part to have it appear in FSM before it's posted on their website.  I wonder if the electronic version of FSM comes out earlier than the printed magazine?

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 22, 2014, 01:45:54 AM
the e-version comes earlier, this is the Jan issue and it is not photoshopped and my photoshopping ksills are non existent!

Thats from me for now
Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on November 22, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
Hello to all,
ARHHHHHHHHHHHH !!! I want it !!  ;D ;D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: AndrewS on November 22, 2014, 01:47:24 AM
If it's true is great!

The box arts look very weel done, is not a quick photoshop job....  ???
We'll see  :D

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 22, 2014, 01:48:30 AM
If it is a hoax it will be one that will certainly cause a reaction from WNW. It is all over Facebook so thousands have viewed the ad. Perhaps Ray knows? In the past he and his Albatros Publications have done a fine job of keeping releases secret until the publication came out!

RAGIII

PS: If Sasho says it is in his E Copy then we certainly must believe it is true!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 01:50:32 AM
Why would FSM run a hoax ad?

C'mon. It's real.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on November 22, 2014, 01:52:09 AM
First off....how could it get into the magazine which would have been prepared a long while back without the news leaking?

These days magazines have a very short lead time compared to pre-digital days.  I can only speak about Airfix Model World, which I've contributed to since they started.  The completed digital issue files only go to the printer a few weeks before they hit the streets.  As far as leaks, the magazines deal with sensitive information such as unannounced releases all the time, and their staff and contributors are bound by non-disclosure agreements.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 22, 2014, 01:52:13 AM
Why would FSM run a hoax ad?

C'mon. It's real.

Agreed!

RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 22, 2014, 01:57:10 AM
Maybe not due out till Jan/Feb timeframe so they didn't want to get folks too excited for a Christmas release?

If so (and again if this is real) then wow early 2015 will have some BIG releases from them including the AEG....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on November 22, 2014, 02:00:18 AM
I agree with Bo and Sassho:
FSM wouldn't run a phony add, and I doubt that WNW would put an add in the magazine only to say:  "Just Kidding Folks".

The modeling world is certainly rocked by this bombshell being dropped on us by FSM!  I may pop for one of these, growing stash notwithstanding.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lorenzo on November 22, 2014, 02:09:28 AM
So, if it's true we can add 4 missing kit numbers

32062
32063
32064
32065

and the missing number 32801 is maybe a Felixstowe AND a Hansa Brandenburg W12
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chuckt5 on November 22, 2014, 02:15:43 AM
Wow! I have dreamed about a '32nd scale Felxistowe but never really thought it would happen, but if this is true.... ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 22, 2014, 02:18:50 AM
I imagine traffic on the WNW website has increased dramatically this morning :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on November 22, 2014, 02:24:31 AM
I imagine traffic on the WNW website has increased dramatically this morning :)
Yes indeed, sadly with no confirmation.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 22, 2014, 02:43:07 AM
Wow!  How am I ever going to convince my wife that our daughter will have to move out to make room for this beauty!  Micheal, the size of this thing should be right up your alley.  Kinda like building a tansu or something.  Best keep that chainsaw ready.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 22, 2014, 02:49:33 AM
Just had a brilliant idea!  I could build wood framed glass case for it and use it as a coffee table.  I'm sure that Carol would then demand to choose the color scheme, but that's alright so long as she approves the plan.  I must go plant the seed right now.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 22, 2014, 03:06:57 AM
Well, well, well...and what does this do to the theory about box art teasing re-introduced way back on page 40 by PrzemoL? First mention of a Felixstowe. Pretty dramatic turn-up, eh.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 22, 2014, 03:24:48 AM
Wow! I have dreamed about a '32nd scale Felxistowe but never really thought it would happen, but if this is true.... ;D

yes, sure...
he also spared cash on his website to buy a pair of WnW felix:
http://www.ronnybarprofiles.com/
Sitio Suspendido por falta de pago
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 22, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
we will have a pair of Caproni Ca 3 next year....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on November 22, 2014, 03:39:16 AM
You're not thinking 'Big Enough', Staaken R.VI.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 22, 2014, 03:41:08 AM
It's early morning in NZ (0640) as I type this and I have to wonder what the reaction will be at WnW when they sign on to their computers at see this bombshell staring them in the face. Somebody could be in deep doo-doo for not being aware of the FSM publishing schedule.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on November 22, 2014, 03:41:32 AM
You're not thinking 'Big Enough', Staaken R.VI.

I would love to see Wingnut do a Staaken R.VI. That would be sweet, but I doubt they ever will. Hopefully they will do a Friedrichshafen G.III one day.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 22, 2014, 03:46:19 AM
It's early morning in NZ (0640) as I type this and I have to wonder what the reaction will be at WnW when they sign on to their computers at see this bombshell staring them in the face. Somebody could be in deep doo-doo for not being aware of the FSM publishing schedule.

Cheers,

Chris
It's saturday morning at WnW, and so they will see nothing new on the western front :-)
The TVAL fighters will take off on monday...
and with our disappointment some pirates can still block the ship with all those big sprues
let's cross our fingers and wait for santa
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on November 22, 2014, 03:47:21 AM
Maybe they will do a Zeppelin.  Fingers crossed ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on November 22, 2014, 03:52:16 AM
These words of wisdom(?) from my son as we talked about the "photoshopping," "People will photoshop Jennifer Lawrence's naked body, not WWI aeroplanes!" ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 22, 2014, 03:55:45 AM
I bet for reasonable choices:
the next bombers will be
Vickers Vimy
Handley Page 0/100-0/400
Gotha G V
Caproni Ca 3 may be Ca 4
at least in the next four years
A Staakeen would be really a dream, but I have seen one and it is too big.
Do not loose the hope, though
Did you notice how large the Dogfight Boxes are?
why did they make large boxes to contain two fighters when they could have done some  high boxes instead?
Something really big is on the horizon

er me
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 22, 2014, 03:56:32 AM
Would anyone who actually has the ad care to give us a rundown on the marking schemes? I'm just wondering if there are Chilean and U.S. markings included as I can't decipher anything from the JPG posted.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 03:58:10 AM
Well, well, well...and what does this do to the theory about box art teasing re-introduced way back on page 40 by PrzemoL? First mention of a Felixstowe. Pretty dramatic turn-up, eh.

Haha yes, I was pooh-poohing the box art theory --  this crow tastes dee-licious!  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on November 22, 2014, 04:25:27 AM
Oh My with bells and whistles...

Just love how they've "mirrored" the box art of the Hansa W.12 on the art work of the Felixstowe Late... Anyone know if it's based on a "real" event?

I'm off to sell something and build an extension to the house.


Cheers

Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 04:53:49 AM


Just love how they've "mirrored" the box art of the Hansa W.12 on the art work of the Felixstowe Late... Anyone know if it's based on a "real" event?


According to the WNW W.12 instructions, 1410 was "written off" in April 1918 -- which doesn't seem to be the same as "shot down in flames by a Felix." The crew presumably survived to fly W.29 2530… (same heraldry)…

dunno...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on November 22, 2014, 05:07:10 AM


Just love how they've "mirrored" the box art of the Hansa W.12 on the art work of the Felixstowe Late... Anyone know if it's based on a "real" event?


According to the WNW W.12 instructions, 1410 was "written off" in April 1918 -- which doesn't seem to be the same as "shot down in flames by a Felix." The crew presumably survived to fly W.29 2530… (same heraldry)…

dunno...

You're probably right Bo  – I have 2530 on display in my "Man Cave"...

/M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 22, 2014, 05:15:47 AM
Anyway - 1410 or 2530 - ,  I've just ordered the W.12 in this moment. 8)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on November 22, 2014, 05:38:35 AM
Oh My with bells and whistles...

Just love how they've "mirrored" the box art of the Hansa W.12 on the art work of the Felixstowe Late... Anyone know if it's based on a "real" event?

I'm off to sell something and build an extension to the house.


Cheers

Mikael
Well, OE..., hard to say if it's truly factual but easy to say very, very likely...here's some history citing "....often fighting enemy patrol and fighter aircraft..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felixstowe_F.2
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on November 22, 2014, 05:43:31 AM
Interesting.  The FSM add lists the kit numbers as 32050 and 32066.  The latter number takes us a bit further down the road in terms of overall numbers.  The ad also labels these as our "Largest Releases!"  At thje WNW website, the W.12 is listed as a "Christmas Release," and the "News" section lists the DFWs as the "Newest Releases."  Could there still be a "Chritmas Surprise" release? ;)  Perhaps I am parsing the language too closely. ::)

The Felixstowe is beyond cool.  Only problem is it's massive size--this puppy is simply not going to fit on most shelves.  I'm looking forward to all of the creative ways you folks will come up with to display this giant.  Any ideas?  Personally, I think we'll see many of these "in flight" or in a coffee table a la Bud! :D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 05:46:42 AM
Wall hanging?

Under False floor?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 22, 2014, 05:55:20 AM
I think I need to employ some staff! 

Twisted Von Buckle Maker  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on November 22, 2014, 06:04:30 AM
Thanks Michael!  That was within the last 5 minutes that they went up. ;D  I see that they are the "Surprise Christmas Release."  Surprise, indeed! ;D

Happy New Year to us!

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: cgandiaga on November 22, 2014, 06:09:51 AM
I like the "detachable outer wings for easier storage" line the best.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: acewwi on November 22, 2014, 06:15:29 AM
it's comes mid Dec.
take a look on WNW site
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on November 22, 2014, 06:23:15 AM
These guys sure have a way of outdoing themselves every year!  Even I'm surprised by these last three releases....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on November 22, 2014, 06:27:25 AM
The corner cabinet idea is interesting, but would leave the viewer with only limited perspectives.  Incorporating a turntable base would be ideal for a non-hanging display, but would require more space.  A hinged wall hanging diorama display might work well also, sort of like a drop leaf table, with a prop to hold it horizontal when in the upright position. 

Regardless of display options, I have little doubt that one of these beasts will make its way into my stash in 2015. 8)

Regards,

Bob 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on November 22, 2014, 06:41:49 AM
Ah, now I see... The Hansa was 'only' the 'Christmas Release'. The Felixstowes are the 'Surprise Christmas Release'  ;D

Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on November 22, 2014, 06:45:04 AM
I wonder what the price tag will be?

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on November 22, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
$199 I am thinking
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 22, 2014, 06:46:05 AM
specifically for those that are thinking that I'm some kind of potoshop wizzard, guys, I great you with the following screenshot, it is also photoshopepd by me, it took me 2 hours to create it! Page 2 and Page 3
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/Ssasho0/Untitled_zps088ad0fd.png)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 06:51:00 AM
No way -- it's lie! Tamiya would never release a 1:48 M-10!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 06:51:52 AM
$199 I am thinking

I'll go $179
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 22, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
I'll lower you to $149

Any offers?  :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on November 22, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
$199 I am thinking

I'll go $179

If so, that's fairly good/cheap for a kit that size...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 22, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
If so, that's fairly good/cheap for a kit that size...

WNW models have always been great values. The Gotha is $149 and has more parts and is very similar in size (but we haven't seen the decal sheets for the Felix). I Don't see them pricing this outrageously higher than the Gotha.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 22, 2014, 07:19:36 AM
Well, there goes my theory of a Be2 being the surprise release for this Christmas, there will always be next year.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 22, 2014, 08:04:35 AM
Maybe July, Des.  We do need a 1/32 Quirk!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 22, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
The Gotha G.IV - Felixstowe F.2a kit comparison

Gotha - 436 injection moulded parts
Felix   - 392 injection moulded parts

Gotha - 22 Photo-etched metal parts
Felix   - 47 Photo-etched metal parts

Gotha - 29" wingspan
Felix   - 36" wingspan

Gotha - $149 with free post
Felix   - $ ?

Gotha - Released December 2010
Felix   - Released December 2014 (pending)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on November 22, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Honestly, when writing my comment on the box-art teasing after W.12 was announced, I meant a mere joke, not a reality. I never thought I would see the WNW model of the aircraft which actually brought me to WW1 a/c modelling.
And now I know, I will have to buy this monster. And I truly mean to build it right after I put my hands on it. I HAVE TO find the storage place (the removable wing panels notwithstanding). My current two separate cabinets are 73 cm wide each, just to fit a Gotha. And mostly full. But there must be other options. My dear wife is already sleeping but I am sure she will help me solve this tomorrow. After all it is her, who bought me Roden's 72nd scale Curtiss H.16 8 years ago for Christmas! ;)
To say I am happy is a serious understatement! I am overjoyed!!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on November 22, 2014, 10:16:25 AM
Honestly, when writing my comment on the box-art teasing after W.12 was announced, I meant a mere joke, not a reality. I never thought I would see the WNW model of the aircraft which actually brought me to WW1 a/c modelling.
And now I know, I will have to buy this monster. And I truly mean to build it right after I put my hands on it. I HAVE TO find the storage place (the removable wing panels notwithstanding). My current two separate cabinets are 73 cm wide each, just to fit a Gotha. And mostly full. But there must be other options. My dear wife is already sleeping but I am sure she will help me solve this tomorrow. After all it is her, who bought me Roden's 72nd scale Curtiss H.16 8 years ago for Christmas! ;)
To say I am happy is a serious understatement! I am overjoyed!!!! :D :D :D
I'm tellin' you, Prez, a glass coffee table is the perfect solution.  You, your lovely bride and Felix will all be happy. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on November 22, 2014, 10:21:55 AM
The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UosJ69kt3Yk/VG6GE1BkZXI/AAAAAAAAPjU/wb3QeKHDKWE/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252063.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ktCmtqFdzYE/VG6GMu3UIDI/AAAAAAAAPjc/3C_Nh8bAt9o/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252060.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-orodHHLBjfE/VG_VTBdKt3I/AAAAAAAAPlw/AHPv2ixVSI4/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252067.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on November 22, 2014, 10:43:09 AM
I like that. It looks a bit like a an advent calendar.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on November 22, 2014, 11:20:57 AM
I showed the WNW Felixstowe listing to my wife and her first comment was "Ooo...you need to get one of those."  Why?  Well, one of our cats is named Felix.  Works for me!
I casually mentioned the model's wing span was 3 feet and she just said we'd have to make room for it.  :D

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: miecio52 on November 22, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
January 1 is my birthday, and I know what I will have a gift-huraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on November 22, 2014, 01:21:51 PM
Eric, as if you didn't know already, that woman is a keeper! ;D  (FWIW, so is mine.)

I always feel sorry for guys whose wives aren't supportive of their scale modeling interests.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on November 22, 2014, 01:54:05 PM
Eric, as if you didn't know already, that woman is a keeper! ;D  (FWIW, so is mine.)

I always feel sorry for guys whose wives aren't supportive of their scale modeling interests.

Warren

Oh, most definitely!  She's even dabbled in the hobby herself having built this 1/700 Titanic a couple years ago.  It even won a 2nd place award at local show!   ;D

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/elarson1123/MJ%20Titanic/P9070826_zpse04ed910.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/elarson1123/media/MJ%20Titanic/P9070826_zpse04ed910.jpg.html)

I provided tools, advice, and moral support but she did all the work, even learning to use an airbrush in the process.  She told me she now has a much greater appreciation for what I do.  Yup, a keeper for sure.

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on November 22, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
My wife is supportive as well. I could be into buying and rebuilding exotic sports cars or shooting heroin into my eyeballs, so plastic scale models are pretty much fine.

Where I live, if there is another scale modeler, he or she is staying anonymous and my friends and acquaintances think my fascination with plastic airplane kits is kind of cute and a little odd. They have no idea what this is all about. If I try to enlighten them I quickly produce the MEGO effect (my eyes glaze over) in them.

To bad for them...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dwaynewilly on November 22, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
I guess a  Friedrichshafen GIII is not out of the question then either?  Who would have thought we'd see these monsters in 1/32 scale?  WOW!!!  They will need their own display case of course.

Dwayne
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on November 22, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
Exciting times, i suppose the moment to buikd my Felixstowe in 1:72 is about to come :)
Maybe at some point in the future a:32 also
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 23, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
. . . a glass coffee table is the perfect solution. 

It really is Bud. Glass (or plexiglass) top and the same for the bottom too, so interested visitors can crawl under for a look-see.  ;D  Naturally I recently sold my tablesaw, bandsaw, and wood lathe but I did keep my compound mitre saw. It can still be done but I'm going to miss that tablesaw!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 23, 2014, 12:14:49 AM
The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots.

Hmmmm . . . twenty more releases and then WnW disappears as quickly as they appeared? It could happen . . .

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on November 23, 2014, 12:17:43 AM
. . . a glass coffee table is the perfect solution. 

It really is Bud. Glass (or plexiglass) top and the same for the bottom too, so interested visitors can crawl under for a look-see.  ;D  Naturally I recently sold my tablesaw, bandsaw, and wood lathe but I did keep my compound mitre saw. It can still be done but I'm going to miss that tablesaw!

Cheers,

Chris

You fellows should sell coffee tables to all the rest of us who will need a place to display our Felixes  ;)  But then you'd never have time to build your kits!

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 23, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots.



Nice 8)

Somebody needs to do the math to figure out how many actual surprises there are in those twenty spaces. Fr'instance we know there is a Camel coming, a Pfalz D.iii, etc...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on November 23, 2014, 01:42:53 AM
The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots.



Nice 8)

Somebody needs to do the math to figure out how many actual surprises there are in those twenty spaces. Fr'instance we know there is a Camel coming, a Pfalz D.iii, etc...

Bo, I knew about the Camel of course, but what is the Pfalz you listed? One wonders how many of those spaces are reserved for Super Kit re- releases, if any?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on November 23, 2014, 01:55:18 AM
In the interview in windsock they mentioned a Pfalz DIII
So theres that,  a couple of camels, early DFW and a late W12. I bet the next duel set is a Camel/ Dr1.
There better be a a HANRIOT in here somewhere. Odds on a Dolphin too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on November 23, 2014, 01:58:19 AM
And don't forget a series of BE2s and a Macchi M5.


If we now revisit the box art theorem, which has just received a boost thanks to the latest releases, there's a Spad VII, Dr1 and a Bebe in the mix.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mgunns on November 23, 2014, 02:10:06 AM
Haply:  My wife too supports the hobby.  She is as surprised by this release as I am and everybody else is.  She likes colorful airplanes and I am sure this will be under the tree come 25 December or whenever it is released by WNW. I have some shelf space for it, and would build it.  A lot of history in that airplane as it was flown by US Naval aviators in WWI as well supporting allied coastal operations.
I am also fortunate in having a friend who I get together with at club meetings for coffee and a breakfast sandwich and speak with on a regular basis and discuss the hobby and other things.
I tell ya folks, we are living in the best of times for the plastic modeler.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on November 23, 2014, 02:17:29 AM
I wonder if one of those 20 boxes will at some point contain a Fokker E.V/D.VIII?
That would make for a happy bunny over here. ;)  From what I know, there is only
the Battle Axe version out there and it is pretty rare now.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on November 23, 2014, 02:19:58 AM
I'm sure the Razor is in the pipeline Ernie.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on November 23, 2014, 02:55:45 AM


One wonders how many of those spaces are reserved for Super Kit re- releases, if any?

<baseless speculation>
My guess is those will have a new series number
</baseless speculation>
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 23, 2014, 03:35:59 AM


One wonders how many of those spaces are reserved for Super Kit re- releases, if any?

<baseless speculation>
My guess is those will have a new series number
</baseless speculation>

This morning I was wondering just about the same thing and guessed that very same answer, Bo!
:-)
Er me
I was also asking myself if the next bomber will be a Dh 10...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on November 23, 2014, 04:03:19 AM
I found this statement at the Albatros production subforum:

Quote
Just to say we are hoping to have a limited reprint of our classic  Felixstowe Datafile out next month now that we have three new kits acoming.

Three new Felixstowe kits? Or do i read something in the text that is not included?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on November 23, 2014, 04:24:25 AM
Mike West (Lone Star Models) is making a 1/48 scale kit, the timing of which looks a bit unfortunate now as the WNW kits will take a big chunk of his potential market
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on November 23, 2014, 04:26:17 AM
I wonder if one of those 20 boxes will at some point contain a Fokker E.V/D.VIII?
That would make for a happy bunny over here. ;)  From what I know, there is only
the Battle Axe version out there and it is pretty rare now.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Avis did quite a nice one in 1/32 which, although OOP, is still obtainable on ebay from the Ukraine from time to time

(http://modelingmadness.com/scott/w1/avis/3201bt.jpg)

There is one for sale right now from the UK:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Avis-1-32-scale-Fokker-E-V-Rare-/331385341552?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item4d281b0670
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on November 23, 2014, 06:28:00 AM
There WAS one on e-bay

Pity that a s discontinued that kit
I remember stashes of unsold DVIII until it become abruptly scarce.
(But also shops are thinning down... )
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 23, 2014, 10:38:35 AM
The AVIS kit is not too bad, and just wants a careful build.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on November 24, 2014, 03:16:33 AM
unfortunately the brisket an ninak post war show no news. i would buy these in the wink of an eye...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 24, 2014, 12:29:29 PM

The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots....


Hmmmm . . . twenty more releases and then WnW disappears as quickly as they appeared? It could happen . . .

From what I remember, when I first compiled the list it didn't go all the way to #32066 or close to it at all....So I don't think that WNW will disappear (their business model and tactics appear to successful....but who knows?) and I'm tipping that the list will eventually grow beyond #32066.

All mere speculation of course!! ;) ;D

Andrew
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on November 24, 2014, 01:33:49 PM
One kit I am surprised has not appeared in the last few years is a Viper powered SE5a.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on November 24, 2014, 05:06:32 PM
One kit I am surprised has not appeared in the last few years is a Viper powered SE5a.
... especially as I'd get me one (in USAS guise)!
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 24, 2014, 09:52:23 PM
One kit I am surprised has not appeared in the last few years is a Viper powered SE5a.


Perhaps WNW expected the after market boys to step up and make what little is actually required to convert the kit.

A little surprising no one has. I'd been working on Rodens Viper when WNW released their SE5a and it stopped there though I had aquuired a nice resin Rad from Mastercasters (I think) and Part of Poland's Etch set for it.

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on November 24, 2014, 10:46:09 PM
One kit I am surprised has not appeared in the last few years is a Viper powered SE5a.


Perhaps WNW expected the after market boys to step up and make what little is actually required to convert the kit.

A little surprising no one has. I'd been working on Rodens Viper when WNW released their SE5a and it stopped there though I had aquuired a nice resin Rad from Mastercasters (I think) and Part of Poland's Etch set for it.

Keith

Hi Keith, that's the way I planned to go too. What can you say about Roden's S.E.5a? Should I go for it together with the aftermarket stuff? Or better hope and wait for WnW to release a Viper-powered S.E.5a?
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 24, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
I just read about the Felixstowe!!

Without going back and counting, I think I have a total of 17 WNW kits all together including the 6 (almost 7) completed.  There are several models both early and recent that I have not got. 

For me, my choice of model is mainly about which ones I like the look of.  I am by no means a WWI aviation historian, and I have no great affinity to aircraft manufacturers, individual pilots, jastas, seaplanes, twin seaters etc that others may have and which may drive their modelling choices.  Until recent years I was aware of only a few types such as the Fokkers, Sopwith, Bristol, so to me many of the aircraft types are new.  I didn't even know about lozenge until recent years.  I would have always said the Fokker Eindecker is my favourite WWI aircraft due to its relative simplicity and that the low/mid level monoplane and tail layout was and remains the layout used from aircraft such as Spitfires and A380s.  I would also say the the Dridecker (MvR) would also be of interest for me due to its notoriety.

Also many of the WNW I possess have been gifts.  I would not necessarily have chosen the Fe2b as I think it is damned ugly, but having received it I would now say it is possibly my favourite model due to the complexity of the build, exposed engine, rigging etc. 

So in the last 18 months or so I have not been too bothered about some of the newer WNW kits.  Undoubtedly excellent as they are. not many have taken my fancy as "must haves".

Until today that is.  Looking at the Felixstowes, with their colour options, this is now a must have for me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on November 24, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
Hi Ian Yer getting there!Having said that, six months ago I would not have looked at a Albie twice until I saw Brad Canncians little wonder.Now I cant get them and their colour schemes out of my head.Plans are for a Roden Oeffag with a small Stuff engine and plenty of wood panels to mimic.Nuff said.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 25, 2014, 02:33:39 AM
With the "3 Felixstowe" versions comment, I hope one with be a US version. To my surprise, I have Datafile 125 on the shelf, and must spring for the Felixstowe Datafile only. I think I need to part with some of my 1/32 WWII stuff.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 25, 2014, 03:22:34 AM
Richard I'd probably look to convert a WNW SE5a to a viper configuration using perhaps Roden's engine (you can buy it seperate) and the Resin and PE you require.

Purely for the fact that the level of detai on the rest of the kit and the decals are much better. The WNW engine may even be modifyable, especially if built cowled up.

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on November 25, 2014, 04:14:57 AM
Thanx, Keith! Any recommendation for good reference-material for such a conversion???
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 25, 2014, 04:25:39 AM
Richard

Windsocks Data file 10  & their datafile special. The later has some really nice close sharp shots of the shuttleworth collections SE's
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on November 25, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Merci, Keith!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on November 27, 2014, 04:53:51 AM
With the release of the W 12, and coming Felixstowe, is it outside the realm of possibility to see a single seat floatplane? Something from Short or Sopwith would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on November 27, 2014, 07:41:04 AM
A Sopwith Schneider or Baby would be VERY cool IMHO.  8)

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on November 27, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
i'm still counting on the Be.2 i bought the new windsock datafile yesterday. the model'll be in the works anyway
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on November 27, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
If they do a single seater float plane, it'll be an Albatros W4  8)

Now that would float my boat for sure. :D

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 28, 2014, 04:59:53 AM
...............but an Albatros W.4 would be pretty cool. ;)
Or an Rumpler 6B1 or 6B2 Seaplane Fighter. ???

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dal Gavan on November 28, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Macchi M.5, please, if WNW are on a seaplane/flying boat drive.  It would also expand the coverage of non-German aircraft (61.2% of their releases/announced future kits to date have been German) and, with luck, herald a few more Italian and A-H types for the future.

Cheers.

Dal.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on November 28, 2014, 10:54:54 AM
Yep I'm with you Dal. Flying boats are great and the Macchi has to be one of the most graceful planes to fly in WWI (or any other time for that matter), as well as having some colourful markings. A Lohner would be cool as well. Another Dogfight Double...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Edo on November 28, 2014, 03:50:41 PM
yes! some non-German plane, please!
I am turning to the Aviatic Balilla for my Xmas present even if I am scared of resin...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on December 05, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
Did anyone else read that TVAL has built and flown a US version of the DH-4?  Photo in Flypast.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on December 05, 2014, 04:44:13 PM
Wasn't that posted somewhere here on the forum too? By Jamo? Feeded my hope to see some DH.4 made by WnW some day...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 05, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Yep
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4562.0
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dol on December 05, 2014, 07:08:36 PM
yes! some non-German plane, please!
I am turning to the Aviatic Balilla for my Xmas present even if I am scared of resin...

I'm looking forward Aviatic 1/32 Ansaldo Balilla too but I'm a little bit afraid with resin too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on December 06, 2014, 12:25:41 PM
If they are as particular as they were about the colors and look of the lozenge, then the resin should be pretty nice...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 06, 2014, 01:43:38 PM
I'M liking the 'stripped down" version of the DVII. I see LOTS of potential with that.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: acewwi on December 10, 2014, 03:44:52 AM
The updated list, we now have 20 spare spots.

Des.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UosJ69kt3Yk/VG6GE1BkZXI/AAAAAAAAPjU/wb3QeKHDKWE/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252063.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ktCmtqFdzYE/VG6GMu3UIDI/AAAAAAAAPjc/3C_Nh8bAt9o/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252060.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-orodHHLBjfE/VG_VTBdKt3I/AAAAAAAAPlw/AHPv2ixVSI4/s912/wingnuts%2520list%2520x%252067.jpg)

We have and 2 spare spots in engines
132E0001    Benz Bz.IV
132E0002    Hispano-Suiza 8Ab
132E0003    RR Falcon III
132E0004    Mercedes D.IVa
132E0005    Mercedes D.III/IIIa/IIIau
132E0006    Le Rhone 9c
132E0007    RAF 4a
132E0008    Liberty V12
132E0009 Benz Bz.III
132E0010    Beardmore A/D
132E0011    Gnome Monosoupape / Oberursel U.1
132E0012    Glerget 9b/9z
132E0013    BMW IIIa
132E0014    Oberursel U.0/ Oberursel U.III
132E0015    Argus As.III
132E0016    Salmson 9z
132E0017    Bentley BR.2
132E0018    Benz Bz.IIIa
132E0019   
132E0020    Siddeley- Deasy Puma
132Ε0021
132Ε0022    RR Eagle VIII

Spyros
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 10, 2014, 04:46:14 AM
Now that the missing Duelist series number is filled in, will there be any more? Will all the sold out kits gradually reappear in Duelist boxings (doubt it!)

Fokker D.VII (Fok) and Camel maybe?

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on December 10, 2014, 05:03:39 AM
Yes, Des, but I don't have 20 empty spots left in my closet! And once that Felixstowe/W.29 box gets in there, oh my!!

Loud cheers from NYC,
Michael

If you set to that dualists box pronto it can be your new closet.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on December 10, 2014, 06:44:23 AM
That counts me out I can't even spell duelLists correctly  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Michael Scarborough on December 10, 2014, 07:06:22 AM
That counts me out I can't even spell duelLists correctly  ;)

Don't worry, GCN, I started it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 10, 2014, 07:50:15 AM
Now that the missing Duelist series number is filled in, will there be any more? Will all the sold out kits gradually reappear in Duelist boxings (doubt it!)

Fokker D.VII (Fok) and Camel maybe?
Could be almost anything.  I would have never guessed that a Felixstowe and a H.29 would be the subject of a duelist release.  My hunch is that we will see the Fokker D.VII make it to duelist boxing.  Perhaps the Albatros D.V and the Se.5a will get this treatment.  I think that the Camel will eventually get this treatment along side the Fokker Dr. 1, perhaps something as obvious as Roy Brown and the Red Baron. 

What if they did a duelist release featuring Werner Voss' Fokker F.1 against McCudden?  An actual dogfight that occurred much like the Felixstowe and the Christiansen W.29 being featured presently.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 10, 2014, 11:22:48 AM
I think that soon we will have the first super detailed kit , a sort of royal class, and it will be..a HB w29.
I think, but it is supported from some statistical reason, that they produce a batch of around 1000 kit for each model.
Now they have ordered a w 29 batch, but the duellist does not sell 1000kits, so we can figure that they will sell 250 duellists.
We have 750 (or, even more sadly around 300) of each one of the felixstowe) and the remaining  250 felixstowe go for the duellists.
The remaining batch of 750 W 29 will be boxed as a postwar W 29 and a deluxe box, respectively 500 and 250.
In my opinion this year WN nearly  doubled its sales.,with around 10000 orders and selling around 30000 kits.
Not bad, if these figures are confirmed.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on December 11, 2014, 12:06:33 PM
Now that the missing Duelist series number is filled in, will there be any more? Will all the sold out kits gradually reappear in Duelist boxings (doubt it!)

Fokker D.VII (Fok) and Camel maybe?
Could be almost anything.  I would have never guessed that a Felixstowe and a H.29 would be the subject of a duelist release.  My hunch is that we will see the Fokker D.VII make it to duelist boxing.  Perhaps the Albatros D.V and the Se.5a will get this treatment.  I think that the Camel will eventually get this treatment along side the Fokker Dr. 1, perhaps something as obvious as Roy Brown and the Red Baron. 

What if they did a duelist release featuring Werner Voss' Fokker F.1 against McCudden?  An actual dogfight that occurred much like the Felixstowe and the Christiansen W.29 being featured presently.

Voss & McCudden... Arrrggg!!!! More money headed south, way south.... But still, life is short and I'd consider illegal activities to afford an F.1 from Wingnuts Wings.

Really...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 11, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
damn what do you do if you have no intrest in that big ole felixstowe white elephant thingy but want the w-29?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 11, 2014, 03:53:30 PM
whats next duellists re8/lvg. nah i guess that wouldnt work. the re8 was much earlier than an lvg. maybe a camel/lvg?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 11, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Going on the prices advertised by Wingnuts you are only paying $80 for the W.29 in the duellists set, all other two seaters are selling for $99 so it is pretty good value for money. And you could always sell the Felixstowe portion of the duellists set and recoup a good portion of the initial outlay leaving you with a brand new W.29 at a price probably much less than the ridiculous ebay prices being asked. This is good marketing by Wingnuts, their way of getting rid of a few more Felixstowe kits.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 11, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
damn what do you do if you have no intrest in that big ole felixstowe white elephant thingy but want the w-29?

Here's an idea, if you know of a fellow modeller nearby (so posting costs aren't much) who wants the Felixstowe but not the W29, why not club together and share the cost of the duallist set proportionally?  OK that means both models have limited decal options, but I would guess there are many of us in the community who would be happy to exchange decals as required.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on December 12, 2014, 12:35:10 AM
damn what do you do if you have no intrest in that big ole felixstowe white elephant thingy but want the w-29?

    If you come up with a good answer let me know! :) ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on December 12, 2014, 02:22:18 AM
damn what do you do if you have no intrest in that big ole felixstowe white elephant thingy but want the w-29?

    If you come up with a good answer let me know! :) ;)
Cheers,
Lance

That's why the W.29 price is remaining high.  Had WNW re-released the W.29 on its own, the eBay prices would drop like a stone.  But if you don't want to pay $350 for a W.29 and Felix, and especially if you can't afford to, $200+ for just the W.29 is still a deal.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 12, 2014, 05:44:39 AM
damn what do you do if you have no intrest in that big ole felixstowe white elephant thingy but want the w-29?

    If you come up with a good answer let me know! :) ;)
Cheers,
Lance

Isn't it easy enough to keep the HB W.29 and then sell the Felixstowe on ebay?
Have I missed something?
Cheers
James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 12, 2014, 05:50:32 AM
Isn't it easy enough to keep the HB W.29 and then sell the Felixstowe on ebay?


yeah, and  you will probably make money on the deal too… :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petero on December 12, 2014, 05:52:27 AM
Isn't it easy enough to keep the HB W.29 and then sell the Felixstowe on ebay?
Have I missed something?
Cheers
James

Well, yes and no.  Yes, it would sell on eBay, but no, probably not for anywhere near the price of the regular Felix issues.  With only one scheme, and either no box or a hugely oversized box and extra shipping cost, I'd guess it wouldn't sell for over $200 or so.  Subtract from that eBay's 10% fee and PayPal's 2.5-3.5% fee, and that would still result in a rather expensive W.29.

But, of course, that's only my somewhat-educated guess as a long-time eBay seller.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ssasho0 on December 12, 2014, 06:14:26 AM
Isn't it easy enough to keep the HB W.29 and then sell the Felixstowe on ebay?
Have I missed something?
Cheers
James

Well, yes and no.  Yes, it would sell on eBay, but no, probably not for anywhere near the price of the regular Felix issues.  With only one scheme, and either no box or a hugely oversized box and extra shipping cost, I'd guess it wouldn't sell for over $200 or so.  Subtract from that eBay's 10% fee and PayPal's 2.5-3.5% fee, and that would still result in a rather expensive W.29.

But, of course, that's only my somewhat-educated guess as a long-time eBay seller.

Peter

or ask if someone, on a particular friendly forum, would like to split the kit/price, resulting in cheaper kit for both of you! You just have to leave in same continent so the shipping price to be OK
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jeff shreve on December 12, 2014, 06:56:37 AM
Notice on the WNW site the AEG says ready in Jan - Feb !
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 12, 2014, 07:37:45 AM
I have my eyes firmly fixed on the AEG, it is definitely on my shopping list.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on December 12, 2014, 07:38:39 AM
Same here...can't wait for the AEG.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 12, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
Hello to all,
Aïe....my coin jar will not survive.... ;D
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on December 12, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Excellent news about the AEG
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 12, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
AEG vs Felixstowe?

Felixstowe for me - just for looks alone!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on December 12, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
There are all the reasons to prefer Felixstowe vs AEG!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 12, 2014, 06:31:23 PM
Poor old NZ peso isn't strong enough for the Felixstowe at present  :(

Hopefully the AEG will be more affordable
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on December 13, 2014, 06:41:48 AM
Looks like another WnW kit has sold out – 32008 the Sopwith Tripe...  :'(

/Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on December 13, 2014, 07:08:48 AM
I don't want to discriminate, I'll buy the Felixboat and the AEG, I'm worried there will be three versions of the AEG....then I'll be in trouble.....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 13, 2014, 07:29:03 AM
Looks like another WnW kit has sold out – 32008 the Sopwith Tripe...  :'(

/Mikael

Dang-it...
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on December 13, 2014, 07:34:06 AM
I'm really surprised that the Gotha or Junkers has not sold out yet.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on December 13, 2014, 07:41:19 AM
I'm really surprised that the Gotha or Junkers has not sold out yet.

I agree, also the other two "first" releases, the SE.5 and the Bristol...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on December 13, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
I'm really surprised that the Gotha or Junkers has not sold out yet.

I agree, also the other two "first" releases, the SE.5 and the Bristol...

Yep. I'm also surprised that the Alabtros isn't sold out yet either.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 13, 2014, 08:40:54 AM
I'm really surprised that the Gotha or Junkers has not sold out yet.

I agree, also the other two "first" releases, the SE.5 and the Bristol...

Yep. I'm also surprised that the Alabtros isn't sold out yet either.

Much larger production run is my guess.  Look at all those after-market decal sheets they made for the D.V and D.Va.  Would be hard to sell all those decals if the kits are sold out!  Same logic applies to the Pfalz D.IIIa
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on December 13, 2014, 08:45:55 AM
Very true, Eric. I had not thought about all the aftermarket decal sheets for the Albatros and Pfalz D.IIIa.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 13, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Can't believe the Tripe is sold out!  Relatively inexpensive and not been around too long?

I would have loved to make another.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 13, 2014, 09:46:36 AM
Remember the April fools warning shots.... The Tripe was on the list... Coincidence?

Hmmmmmmm....

 :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 13, 2014, 02:58:01 PM
i am going to get a rock thrown at me but i just dont really want a felix, nor did i want a gotha. and aeg thats something else. might have to get one of those. even thought i have a couple in 1/48 already. i am really surprised the se5a/junkers/brisfit hasnt sold out. i would also bet the d.va was getting low in stock thats why they did the oaw boxing.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on December 13, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
i am going to get a rock thrown at me

Not at all, we all have different tastes :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 13, 2014, 07:00:51 PM
Very true, Eric. I had not thought about all the aftermarket decal sheets for the Albatros and Pfalz D.IIIa.
IMHO they had a second run of these two...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 13, 2014, 10:22:52 PM
i am going to get a rock thrown at me

Not at all, we all have different tastes :)

Exactly sir.  To be honest, WNW is one of the reasons I quite subscribing to Windsock some time back, it had become a very expensive sales brochure for WNW and little else.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 13, 2014, 11:51:14 PM
Remember the April fools warning shots.... The Tripe was on the list... Coincidence?

Hmmmmmmm....

 :)
Yes.  This means that the next items to keep an eye out for are the two Albatros kits, the Albatros Fokker D VII and the OAW Fokker D VII. They are likely to be the next ones to run out.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 13, 2014, 11:56:03 PM
Very true, Eric. I had not thought about all the aftermarket decal sheets for the Albatros and Pfalz D.IIIa.
IMHO they had a second run of these two...
Why stop at a second run?!  As long as those kits have been in production, I would wager they may have had more than two runs.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 14, 2014, 12:00:46 AM
Very true, Eric. I had not thought about all the aftermarket decal sheets for the Albatros and Pfalz D.IIIa.
IMHO they had a second run of these two...
Why stop at a second run?!  As long as those kits have been in production, I would wager they may have had more than two runs.
Fully agree, maybe that they had more than one run and eventually they can have more.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 14, 2014, 12:22:41 AM
My thoughts are that WnW is going to disappear just as quickly as it appeared. I understand that there are 20 kit numbers still not filled from the original list and I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Sir Peter went into this project with a set list of aircraft he wanted to market and once they're kitted, WnW folds. Maybe even timed to occur on the 100th anniversary of the end of WWI. The numbers fit. I'll even go so far as to say that Sir Peter doesn't sell his molds either, but squirrels them away, just because he can. How's that for a conspiracy theory?

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on December 14, 2014, 12:34:21 AM
How's that for a conspiracy theory?

I tend to believe in it
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 14, 2014, 02:41:04 AM
I have some torches and pitchforks for sale....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 14, 2014, 02:43:44 AM
I have some torches and pitchforks for sale....

The revenue from those would help finance another WNW purchase. ;)

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 14, 2014, 02:46:13 AM
Since I've only ever built in 1/32, I'd be in for that!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 14, 2014, 03:02:38 AM
My thoughts are that WnW is going to disappear just as quickly as it appeared. I understand that there are 20 kit numbers still not filled from the original list and I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Sir Peter went into this project with a set list of aircraft he wanted to market and once they're kitted, WnW folds. Maybe even timed to occur on the 100th anniversary of the end of WWI. The numbers fit. I'll even go so far as to say that Sir Peter doesn't sell his molds either, but squirrels them away, just because he can. How's that for a conspiracy theory?

Cheers,

Chris
Well, to reinforce your conspiracy theory look at that strange error in the last letter from Richard Alexander, he wrote "we will return to work on 12, january 1915"...   :o
I  believe that he's not going to destroy the molds, instead he will turn time back to the first WW... he's building a time machine
 8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 14, 2014, 03:20:01 AM
If WNW disappeared tomorrow I would be very sad but still incredibly thankful for what quality kits they have (had?) brought to the hobby of subjects that I never would have thought we would see in 1/32nd scale....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on December 14, 2014, 03:33:33 AM
If WNW disappeared tomorrow I would be very sad but still incredibly thankful for what quality kits they have (had?) brought to the hobby of subjects that I never would have thought we would see in 1/32nd scale....

+10 !!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on December 14, 2014, 09:08:22 AM
How's that for a conspiracy theory?

I tend to believe in it

I think I must disagree. First WNW is cooperating with a Poll on LSM asking for what the customers want and say they will be open to the results. If the theory of only producing the Models PJ put into the list were true then No Poll would be asked for. Also I just can't wrap my mind around Pulling the plug on the Molds and not at Least Leasing them to other companies if WNW did close. Just Not good business and in the end I think if WNW closed its doors we would eventually see the kits distributed from China, at a Much Higher price of course. JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 14, 2014, 09:48:31 AM
How's that for a conspiracy theory?

I tend to believe in it

I think I must disagree. First WNW is cooperating with a Poll on LSM asking for what the customers want and say they will be open to the results.
Could you post the link for the poll, chris?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on December 14, 2014, 09:59:57 AM
How's that for a conspiracy theory?

I tend to believe in it

I think I must disagree. First WNW is cooperating with a Poll on LSM asking for what the customers want and say they will be open to the results.
Could you post the link for the poll, chris?

I am attaching the Link and Hope Des has no issues with my doing so. If he does I have no objection to its deletion!

http://forum.largescalemodeller.com/topic/3138-wnw-wants-to-listen-their-fans/page-7#entry42977

By the way, you Must join to enter your selections!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on December 14, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
We ran a similar survey here on this forum several years back, I compiled the list and sent it to Richard Alexander but he did not seem one bit interested virtually saying that they have there list already made up for up-coming kits and not many in the list were included. Wingnuts will do what they want when they want and take very little notice of customer wants or wishes, sorry, but that is the way it is.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 14, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
We ran a similar survey here on this forum several years back, I compiled the list and sent it to Richard Alexander but he did not seem one bit interested virtually saying that they have there list already made up for up-coming kits and not many in the list were included. Wingnuts will do what they want when they want and take very little notice of customer wants or wishes, sorry, but that is the way it is.

Des.

Alright, back to the conspiracy theories again...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on December 14, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
We ran a similar survey here on this forum several years back, I compiled the list and sent it to Richard Alexander but he did not seem one bit interested virtually saying that they have there list already made up for up-coming kits and not many in the list were included. Wingnuts will do what they want when they want and take very little notice of customer wants or wishes, sorry, but that is the way it is.

Des.

Just as an aside I certainly remember that poll. The strange thing is that this one is coming up with some strange results. SPAD XIII is the top vote getter?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 14, 2014, 11:01:58 AM
Yeah - looked like Spad and DrI were tops on their list.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 14, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
well for however long wnw is around 2 years or 10 one thing i am sure of is we will never again see a company that produces exclusively high quality injection molded ww1 aircraft .
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 14, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
We ran a similar survey here on this forum several years back, I compiled the list and sent it to Richard Alexander but he did not seem one bit interested virtually saying that they have there list already made up for up-coming kits and not many in the list were included. Wingnuts will do what they want when they want and take very little notice of customer wants or wishes, sorry, but that is the way it is.

Des.


Thats how come we have a Felixstowe and an AEG coming. Would I rather have a SPAD? Nup
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 14, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
Thats how come we have a Felixstowe and an AEG coming. Would I rather have a SPAD? Nup

Or a Dr.I?  Zzzzzzzzzz

 +100000000000000000000 :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 14, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
i'm with you on this bo. the roden kit is sufficient , i have like 4 of them plus photoetch and other details.its fun to make them into something nice looking. its called modelling. would it someday be cool to have a wnw dr.1? yeah sure but its not like the roden kit is a battle axe kit which is all we had for a 1/32 d.vii and eindecker. theres too many other kits i wish for 1st.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 14, 2014, 04:33:50 PM
Yes, we have a good Dr.I kit with nice upgrades ... And I'm sure more are on the way   :-X  :-X  :-X ... and the Dr.I is a cliché -- it's importance as a WWI fighter is way overstated... it was essentially DOA when it finally went into full strength service -- so so many other important and overlooked aircraft ... Um kinda like what WNW keeps bringing out. I hope they continue to ignore the polls...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on December 14, 2014, 06:00:47 PM
Yes, we have a good Dr.I kit with nice upgrades ... And I'm sure more are on the way   :-X  :-X  :-X ... and the Dr.I is a cliché -- it's importance as a WWI fighter is way overstated... it was essentially DOA when it finally went into full strength service -- so so many other important and overlooked aircraft ... Um kinda like what WNW keeps bringing out. I hope they continue to ignore the polls...

I couldn't agree with you more and hopefully Im not the only one... Dr.I is surely a nice looking plane but I think greatest thing about WNW is that they are bringing all the others less (well)known aircrafts which have never been produced before...some of them I've never heard before I found WNW and year later I'm in love with WWI planes  :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on December 14, 2014, 06:01:32 PM
If WNW disappeared tomorrow I would be very sad but still incredibly thankful for what quality kits they have (had?) brought to the hobby of subjects that I never would have thought we would see in 1/32nd scale....

A bit like accurate miniatures: they also took moulding to a new level. It stil saddens me they folded
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 14, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
I personally want to see WNW produce the Fok.DR.1. For two reasons:
1st. The lack of rigging will bring in more modellers from other genres, which can only be a good thing for our hobby.
2nd. It makes perfect business sense to release this kit. WNW is a company and needs to turn a profit to bring in more investment for future obscure types. The DR.1 will do very nicely in this regard.

I'm not against bringing out Aircraft such as the Felixstowe, but we need the 'bread and butter' aircraft to prop up R&D and spread the tentacles of interest to other corners of out plastic tickling hobby  ;)

Peace  :)
vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on December 14, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
Long life to sir Peter,
I have some four folders of plans in 1/32,which were my shortlist of models good for the next scratch built model(s)
He has already put into his list some 25℅ of them and some others have been dome by roden, special hobby and planet models.
I still have plenty of models to select for scratch building and plenty of parts to cannibalize...
It was long ago that we had only academy nieuport and the horrible camel, and some nice tom'm model works vacuforms...
The tom's Pfalz d iii now rests in peace half cut --
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 03:25:08 AM
Bob brings up some very valid points. I has started to post something similar here earlier this weekend, deleted it, but I guess I'll go ahead and post it now. Not that it really matters, we're all just here making noise in the big picture of things. :)

Just about every major player in the plastic scale modeling industry produces a "Wild Horsey" fighter and a Bf-one-oh-thingy. (My modeling interests are in 1/72nd, understand.) In fact, Airfix recently released a new "Wild Horsey" fighter. Why?  There are already a bunch of 1/72nd scale kits for that a/c by the likes of Tamiya, Hasegawa, Revell, etc. that are quite good in their own right, why bother? Well, to borrow a thought from a friend on another forum, the sales of those fighters from Tamiya, Hasegawa, Revell, etc. don't help Airfix/Hornby's bottom line one whit. Not one penny/pfenning/yen from those sales goes into Airfix's/Hornby's accounts, ergo they manufacture them along with Zeros, P-40's, and others that are the stock and trade of plastic aircraft kits.
 
Now, I sure don't know why Sir PJ started WNW, and I'd venture to say no one here does either except for speculation. Did he do it for fun? A labor of love? To start a new business venture, etc?  A lot of what they're going to do from here on out depends entirely upon whether they want the business to thrive and grow, or they're just doing it to do it. Albatri and Fokkers are the WWI scale modeling equivalent of "Wild Horsey" fighters in terms of sales for the bottom line. They're always going to sell. Felixstowes?  Really? Heck, I'm a WWI a/c fan, and I won't say I could care less, but I'm sure not running around trying to find things to sell so I can buy one, converting a spare bedroom for a display, etc.  ;D ;) ;)  However, I'm rather surprised they let the Fokker-built D.VII go OOP, because, as Bob pointed out about the Fokker Tripe: it has little to no rigging, and therefore can serve as a gateway drug, errrr, excuse me, gateway kit to this niche of the hobby.

When I decided back in '94 or so that I'd start buying some WWI a/c kits here and there for the day when I could build them, there wasn't much to choose from. Eduard was new on the scene, and we all know that their attention to our niche is what put them on the map. A few years ago, they've all but forgotten about WWI, in 1/72nd or 1/48th. They started to produce WWII kits to stay alive against the likes of Tamiya, Hasegawa, Revell, Roden, etc. I cannot ever see WNW producing anything but WWI a/c, and that has its limits. (FWIW, some of us pondered a few years back how long Albatros Pubs could last in terms of producing Datafiles. There are only so many images, etc. of WWI a/c, only so much research that can be had at this point. It's a finite field.)

So, like Bob said: if they want a money-maker, produce a Fokker Dr.I. It doesn't matter if Roden or someone else has done it, Roden's Tripe sales don't help WNW, but Sir PJ and the other folks at WNW know this, and LOT more to boot. (I think we all can agree that a Tripe from WNW will blow the Roden kit away, no offense Roden.)

Just my two kopecks, off of my soapbox now,

Warren
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on December 15, 2014, 04:11:45 AM
Warren, well stated.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on December 15, 2014, 04:59:34 AM
Very good post, Warren.  You know, the fact that the Fokker D VII sold out is just  further confirmation that WNW is simply not beholden to any of the market forces so prevalent in this or any other industry.  By now, you would think nothing would surprise those of us who post on here.  And yet we continue to be surprised...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 05:05:29 AM
Exactly Eric. You'd think WNW letting a Fokker D.VII go OOP would be akin to Airfix letting their Avro Lancaster bomber go OOP, but Sir PJ is obviously a better businessman than I am, so who am I to judge?  Add to that, as Des has pointed out on more than one occasion, WNW doesn't give a tinkers dam what I think.  :)

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on December 15, 2014, 05:19:50 AM
I didn't think the d.vii would sell out, but there are still 3 different boxings of it for sale so the Lancaster analogy doesn't quite work.

Panic buttons will be pressed if another one goes though
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 15, 2014, 05:45:00 AM
Sir PJ has repeatedly stated in interviews words to the effect that in fact he is doing this (WNW) for fun. The models WNW produces are the ones he fancies.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 15, 2014, 05:47:41 AM
If the "April Fools" sell out bug pattern continues to hold true, the other Merc powered Fokkers will sell out as well.

Not to incite panic buying or anything :)
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on December 15, 2014, 05:50:17 AM
If the "April Fools" sell out bug pattern continues to hold true, the other Merc powered Fokkers will sell out as well.

Not to incite panic buying or anything :)

Hey Bo, what were the kits that were listed as sold out on the "April Fools"? Wasn't the Gotha one of the kits?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 15, 2014, 05:58:04 AM
Quote
 
-----------------------
Hi,

Overnight a website error caused several of our models to wrongly appear as sold
out. While all our models are limited and will eventually sell out, these models
are still currently available as of 1 April 2014;

32005 1/32 Gotha G.IV            US$149
32008 1/32 Sopwith Triplane         US$69
32009 1/32 Albatros D.V        US$69
32011 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Fok)        US$79
32015 1/32 Albatros D.Va        US$69
32027 1/32 Fokker D.VII (Alb)        US$79
32030 1/32 Fokker D.VII (OAW)    US$79

Almost certainly more models will appear to be sold out in error over the next
few hours. Hopefully we will have this fixed some time today (New Zealand time).

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Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 06:44:15 AM
I didn't think the d.vii would sell out, but there are still 3 different boxings of it for sale so the Lancaster analogy doesn't quite work.

I think it works quite well. If the Fokker-built has sold out, the others will to in due time of course. However, I don't have a dog in this hunt to be truthful. I've bought some WNW kits, but they are mostly a curiosity with me as 1/32nd is not my preferred scale. Others though, I know, will be understandably upset if WNW just fades out.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 06:45:19 AM
Sir PJ has repeatedly stated in interviews words to the effect that in fact he is doing this (WNW) for fun. The models WNW produces are the ones he fancies.

Well, I've never read or listened to the interviews where he said this, so I didn't assume.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 15, 2014, 06:48:36 AM
regardless of PJs intent, WNW has influences our hobby for the better, and made a lot of people sit up and take notice.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 15, 2014, 08:16:10 AM
I actually enjoy the fact that Sir Peter wants to release kits that he is interested in. He is living out his dream, as we would if we had his money. The only difference from my perspective being I would plumb for 1.1 scale flying aircraft with me test flying each and everyone one of them.... barring the Be2.C  :) But as I don't have his money I had better get back to twisting wire and cutting tube  ;)

Von Buckle
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on December 15, 2014, 08:21:03 AM
One thing I thought they said in early interviews was that all kits would have an initial short(ish) run then would be available as special edition kits from then on out? Of course that was years ago that was said and those special edition kits have not appeared so maybe plans have changed?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 15, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
Every time they are asked about it, they repeat that the special editions are still in the pipeline. I see no reason to doubt them. I also see no reason to believe WNW is just going to vanish in a puff of smoke any time soon. They seem to be having fun, they keep moving from strength to strength and the kudos keep piling on, they have unfinished business they have committed to -- and I bet they are making good money.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on December 15, 2014, 08:53:10 AM
Fully agree with you Bo. I ask Richard Alexander about the deluxe kits every know then and then, and he always assures me they are coming. If modellers need figures in the meantime there is a very good selection available from a range of producers. I reckon its OK to be impatient if you have built all the WNW kits from your stash, otherwise get modelling  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on December 15, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
Yes! I have ahhhh... some kits on the shelf, and now am doing the big save for the Felix, and then the AEG, and would like another W-12...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 09:04:11 AM
You know, it's not like most, if not all, of us have a gob of unbuilt kits in the pipeline.

Bob, Sir PJ DOES get to fly 1:1 scale a/c, he's got his TVAL toys to play with too.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on December 15, 2014, 09:05:37 AM
As the person who wrote some of the Wingnut Wings feature articles often referred to in threads about what WNW said or did not say, I have reviewed my interview notes with Richard Alexander and the remarks sent by Sir Peter Jackson and nowhere did either gentleman say anything about Wingnut Wings kits having a short-ish run and then special editions. Nor have I seen that remark in any other published article.

Wingnuts have never disclosed their production runs for commercial-in-confidence reasons, nor do they disclose sales figures for the same reason. They have said that when kits sell out they won't be reissued in that form ( that said this remark pre-dates the return of the Hansa Brandenburg W.29 in the new Duellists set).

The special editions remark was in the context of when kits sell out, they will reappear at some future time as a special edition kit with extra photo etch, more decals, figures etc.

Although this has not yet happened there is a photo with my 2010 feature on Hyperscale showing one of the Wingnuts staff with his computer screen showing the photo etch extras for the Albatros D.V special edition. Another photo shows another staffer with a computer screen showing the LVG special edition instruction renders. These images have been published so the special edition kits are real- just not released yet. There were also images of some of the resin figures, also not yet available.

As the earlier articles have not been updated, some people are taking information from them and assuming they refer to the state of play in 2014. Not so. For example early in the piece Wingnuts said  they were not doing a Sopwith Camel but a year or so back they confirmed a Camel is in development.

The earlier articles were accurate for their time but Richard Alexander also said "never say never" in regard to possible future kit selections.

That said there's been a lot of speculation on various forums about whether WNW is doing a BE2c or a Fokker DVIII or a whatever. The facts are Wingnuts has never said they are doing these kits. We want them to, but they have never been confirmed by WNW and online speculation needs to be read in that context- just a guess.

As for the remarks that Wingnuts are producing kits for fun, that's a stretch of the imagination. Sir Peter Jackson in the 2010 feature said "We are not driven by market forces and profit". That said I'm sure the company which has Sir Peter's financial backing, is not doing it to make a loss either.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on December 15, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
They have said that when kits sell out they won't be reissued in that form ( that said this remark pre-dates the return of the Hansa Brandenburg W.29 in the new Duellists set).


However, . . . the W.29 did return, but in different form, in a Duelist set, AND with different decals, SO it is in different form.

Nothing, to my mind, different in what they said, and what happened.

Dave, your above post is why I didn't say I'd heard or read this or that since I haven't, but only have heard heresay.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on December 15, 2014, 09:32:33 AM
Well put Dave! I think any panic or thoughts of them closing shop quickly is a far fetched Idea. I don't think Sir Peter would suddenly put all of the dedicated staff at WNW on Unemployment  8) I also think Chris is perhaps doing a little Tongue in cheek about the disappearing act. JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on December 15, 2014, 10:20:38 AM


As for the remarks that Wingnuts are producing kits for fun, that's a stretch of the imagination. Sir Peter Jackson in the 2010 feature said "We are not driven by market forces and profit". That said I'm sure the company which has Sir Peter's financial backing, is not doing it to make a loss either.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Dave, thanks for the perspective -- i suppose saying they are doing it for "fun" is a bit flip semantically, but I contend not entirely inaccurate. Why else are you doing something not driven by market forces or profit? This isn't a charity -- they aren't saving the world -- they are making plastic model airplanes that their boss and benefactor fancies.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 15, 2014, 10:54:41 AM
I also think Chris is perhaps doing a little Tongue in cheek about the disappearing act. JMHO,
RAGIII

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on December 15, 2014, 03:14:29 PM
You know, it's not like most, if not all, of us have a gob of unbuilt kits in the pipeline.

Bob, Sir PJ DOES get to fly 1:1 scale a/c, he's got his TVAL toys to play with too.

Warren

I know he has a part to play in TVAL, but Peter doesn't go up in the aircraft! His insurance company would have a hissy fit if he did!

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 07, 2015, 07:20:12 AM
Well Felix has certainly quietened things here!

I was just thinking/fantasising  about "Duellists"  WNW might put together in due course. If we pile speculation upon speculation we might see Dr.I and Sopwith Camel separate releases and some have seen them put together as "Duellists".  However, should they ever emerge as releases, I wonder if it more likely that a Dr.I might be paired with an existing SE5a (à la Hisso box art) and a Camel with a D.VII.

Oh well, back to the cowling panels on the D.VII.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 07, 2015, 10:22:41 PM
I'm content to wait for the AEG. The extended development time on the DVII sure resulted in a fantastic kit. I'm curious as to the 1920s versions of the Brisfit and Ninack, they should have interesting paint schemes.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 08, 2015, 12:41:28 AM
My mind has already started thinking about the AEG,  what a sickness I have!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 08, 2015, 01:51:16 AM
I don't even want to be cured!
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 08, 2015, 01:52:21 AM
Do you guys think the A.E.G. will be the same price as the Gotha?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on January 08, 2015, 02:14:24 AM
I'll bet that as 12 January approaches, speculation of the actual release date for the AEG will heat this thread up again.

Michael

I'm also wondering if any other kits will be sold out once they fill all the holiday orders.

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on January 08, 2015, 03:20:22 AM
I'll bet that as 12 January approaches, speculation of the actual release date for the AEG will heat this thread up again.

Michael

I'm also wondering if any other kits will be sold out once they fill all the holiday orders.

Eric

Felixstowe?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 08, 2015, 07:15:12 AM
That it would be. I guess the stage is set for a Handley-page though, given the respective size compared to a Gotha, AEG, and now the Felix. I would still like to see a couple of Brit seaplanes comparable to the W series planes.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on January 08, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
Nah, the 2015 is the right centenary for a Caproni Ca 3 and perhaps a Ca 4  Triplane.
Fiorello La Guardia piloted them and the french had a production Line put up by Esnault Pelterie.
Plenty of postwar and colonial variations and no other one of the WW1 bombers sported the same variety of colorful distinctive signs and camouflage, not even the gothas...
That would be the ideal companion for the Ansaldo Balilla...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 08, 2015, 07:57:19 AM
I would very much like to see a line up of Caproni aircraft, these are virtually untouched in 1:32 scale.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 08, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
Nah, the 2015 is the right centenary for a Caproni Ca 3 and perhaps a Ca 4  Triplane.
Fiorello La Guardia piloted them and the french had a production Line put up by Esnault Pelterie.
Plenty of postwar and colonial variations and no other one of the WW1 bombers sported the same variety of colorful distinctive signs and camouflage, not even the gothas...
That would be the ideal companion for the Ansaldo Balilla...

It would be cool to see those Caproni Aircraft but correct me if I am wrong, WNW released NO Aircraft relevant to the 1914 Centenary. My thought is that WNW is not affected by the anniversary. They already have an agenda and CUSTOMER base, although the base is expanding due to the quality of their kits. I still think the Camel and Red Baron Triplane is a likely Duelist release. I also still feel strongly we will see some of the Aircraft that are in the T Val collection like the Strutter, Dolphin, EV/DVIII, etc. JMHO!
RAGIII

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Bluesfan on January 08, 2015, 09:54:06 AM
Ca.3 now near the top of my wish list too - and seeming amazingly more plausible now we actually have a Felixstowe.
I picked up my Felixstowe (early) today. Gobsmacked! Honestly, never in my wildest dreams etc etc.
In fact, I think an R-plane is now a distinct possibility, sometime in the middle future.
But I want a Caproni more. As ermeio says, all those lovely schemes, for a charismatic machine.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on January 08, 2015, 02:21:25 PM
I'd like to see a Taube, a Fokker F.1 and an D.VIII and a Bleroit XI
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 08, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
I want some Hapsburg birds...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on January 08, 2015, 05:03:30 PM
Eric,

quite. Just think of the possibilities with the Albatros D.III OEF variants, colours and markings, HB C.1, Aviatik Berg D.1 etc.

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on January 08, 2015, 07:33:06 PM
Personally I would be happy if Wingnuts briefly stepped back from the big ticket, huge flying boats and the German two seaters to give us a few cheaper single seater subjects or more of an RFC focus for a while.

The Sopwith Camel is on the coming soon list and will be warmly welcomed, but I'd also like a Be2c, a DH.5 and in the floatplane world a Sopwith Baby. German single seaters I would buy include a Fokker E.V/. D.VIII.

Everything Wingnuts does is world class but this thread is about personal preferences. I can appreciate the Felixstowes have been warmly received as will the AEG be on release but given the slump in the Aussie dollar against the US ( A80c to the US today) I'd like some more affordable WNW kits.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ondra on January 08, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
Eric,

quite. Just think of the possibilities with the Albatros D.III OEF variants, colours and markings, HB C.1, Aviatik Berg D.1 etc.

Cheers,

GrahamB
I think the issue with austro-hungarian aircraft is the huge number of variations between single exemplars. From my own experience I can tell about the Aviatik Berg D.I - almost every single piece was an original. Therefore the A-H aircraft are very difficult for any manufacturer to present, not even talking about WNW with their focus on detail.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on January 08, 2015, 09:34:57 PM
I'd like to see a Taube, a Fokker F.1 and an D.VIII and a Bleroit XI

I just had a moment thinking about these... just my liking though :) !!!! I hope that Felixstowe will survive until May and I'm very excited about AEG :)

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on January 09, 2015, 02:47:38 AM
That it would be. I guess the stage is set for a Handley-page though, given the respective size compared to a Gotha, AEG, and now the Felix. I would still like to see a couple of Brit seaplanes comparable to the W series planes.
Or a very early Brit sea-plane....the elegant Short 184 from 1915 sporting the Union Jack for markings and lugging a torpedo at Gallipoli.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on January 09, 2015, 05:52:26 AM
Yep, that would be totally cool

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Short%20184%20torpedo/Photobucket12.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on January 09, 2015, 06:47:30 AM
I would like to see a model of the Short 184. Also besides the Camel would like a Dolphin and a Viper engine SE5a , to make one of Billy Bishop's aircraft.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 09, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
Eric,

quite. Just think of the possibilities with the Albatros D.III OEF variants, colours and markings, HB C.1, Aviatik Berg D.1 etc.

Cheers,

GrahamB
I think the issue with austro-hungarian aircraft is the huge number of variations between single exemplars. From my own experience I can tell about the Aviatik Berg D.I - almost every single piece was an original. Therefore the A-H aircraft are very difficult for any manufacturer to present, not even talking about WNW with their focus on detail.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on January 09, 2015, 09:20:17 AM
Jamo, I have to say that the water-borne aircraft dioramas you have shared with us in the last few months are absolutely wonderful. My dad flew Catalinas and always talked about the excitement of takeoff and, specifically when, "it got up on the step". I feel that same exuberance in your art work.

I'm glad the Roden 1/72 Felixstowe gave you such a good dress rehearsal...can't wait to see what you do with the 1/32 offering. And, that you don't plan to build it is not an acceptable offer.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

Thanks Michael  :)  I need to start with a smaller water diorama in 1/32 first before the Felixstowe. My credit card agrees with this also

Cheers
James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on January 09, 2015, 02:59:05 PM
i agree eric,wheres the hapsburg stuff.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on January 11, 2015, 01:30:05 AM
I find one of WNW's attractive quirks is that you just don't have a clue about what they will produce next.  I mean, a monster kit like the Felixstowe is produced in 2 versions in 1/32 and nobody in the industry knew. This despite WNW outsourcing all the production of the plastic, printing, decals & boxing. I find it absolutely incredible that nobody said anything, not even a subtle hint. It says an awful lot about the staff & the relationships WNW must have with their suppliers. Non disclosure must be at the core of their contractual agreements.

It's very impressive indeed. Most manufacturers will announce months, sometimes years in advance what they will launch next. I guess that they are just not set up to sell as many units as they can, hence the sold out signs. It really is run like a giant cottage industry.
I was wondering if their strategy is just a crowdfunding model of business on steroids:
How many of them would have crowdfunded sir Peter for this mad adventure?
Yet I think that many among us volunteered buying their shares (WNW kits)
Therefore it remains the passionate dream of a group of daylight dreamers and they are making their dreams real.
Moreover there is also something like a social responsibility in WNW owners: making this world a better place, producing something that no one else would have produced in the years to come (at least for our little community).
Long life to sir Peter...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 11, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
Agreed Kai, Ermio. Their first kit was the Junkers J-1?? My fond wish now is that WNW re-releases the Liberty engine sprues. I have a lovely shot of a Curtis boat above Sandy Eggo bay with roundels still on the wing. Yes, the plane is massive even in the piccie.
 A LOT of people are still waiting on the Trumpy 1/32 Devestator, 7-8 years on.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Berman on January 11, 2015, 11:58:37 AM
 Quite likely that WNW will release a Curtiss version. They already have the Liberty engine.  Lone Star Models which makes a 1/48th scale Felixstowe F.2a has plans to make a Curtiss flyingboat. Mike West is currently making the patterns for the 1/48th scale V-12 Liberty engine.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 11, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
It would be great to see the Curtiss version of the flying boat, the Liberty engine produced by Wingnuts is superb.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 12, 2015, 01:28:22 PM
If they reproduce those Liberty's I'll attempt a conversion......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on January 12, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
Christmas break is over for WNW, but....


...where is the announcement for the AEG?  :P

S.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on January 13, 2015, 12:20:15 AM
Christmas break is over for WNW, but....


...where is the announcement for the AEG?  :P

S.

Give them a chance!  First day back, they're busy shipping all the Felixstowes (and other kits) ordered during the break.   ;)

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on January 13, 2015, 02:07:33 AM
I'm sure it is too.

That's why the liberty sprues are no longer available as it would hurt future sales.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 13, 2015, 09:27:28 AM
Agreed Kai, Ermio. Their first kit was the Junkers J-1?? My fond wish now is that WNW re-releases the Liberty engine sprues. I have a lovely shot of a Curtis boat above Sandy Eggo bay with roundels still on the wing. Yes, the plane is massive even in the piccie.
 A LOT of people are still waiting on the Trumpy 1/32 Devestator, 7-8 years on.

They released four kits simultaneously - SE.5a, Junker J1, LVG C.VI & Bristol F.2B. They also showed mock-up of the Gotha & Pup, with hints around the Fe.2b, DH.2, Albatros, RE.8 and Fokker D.VII amongst others.

Talk about starting with a bang! I remember Windsock magazine devoting an entire special issue to the four, predicting that WWI modelling would never be the same again.

I think a Liberty engined Felixstowe must be in the works, the marginal cost to do so would be comparatively small.

Funny, You have shaken my memory! When WNW was first announced the Drome Modeling section was still going strong. I remember asking if this was an April Fools Joke! It seems that Ray and Windsock were indeed correct about WW1 Modeling!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 13, 2015, 10:12:13 AM
I remember very well the day Wingnuts launched their new kits, what a surprise it was to me because I had only not long before decided to build 1:32 scale WW1 model aircraft and at the time was working my way through building all the Roden 1:32 WW1 kits, I nearly fell off my chair when I found out that Wingnuts were doing 1:32 scale WW1 kits, naturally I purchased their first four releases. I also remember the statement that Ray made about WW1 modeling would never be the same, just look at what has happened over the past three years not just in new kits but aftermarket accessories as well.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 13, 2015, 11:07:58 AM
One other thing I have been thinking about. Earlier someone mentioned WNW using the Existing SE%a and a Fokker Triplane in a duelist kit. At first I thought that unlikely but after further thought here is my speculation:
IF WNW were to release an F1 version of the Triplane then a Dualists is the ONLY logical way. Lets face it, there are only 2 available schemes for the F1s. A duelist version of Voss and APF Rhys Davids / and or McCudden would certainly be the way to go. Limited numbers for a kit with limited schemes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 13, 2015, 11:46:29 AM
Good point Rick,
 Prolly the most famous combat between pilots was Voss and Rhys-Davids/mcCudden, so that would be a fit. I wouldn't put it past WNW to simply make a kit that allows future sales of Dr.I versions as well as the F.Is. Isn't that how Roden did it?
 After the AEG, and 1920s versions of the Brisfit and Ninack, the crystal ball is a little murky....   Has anyone seen anymore teaser shots like the ones that Dan-san so nicely deduced would be future releases?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 13, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
Good point Rick,
 Prolly the most famous combat between pilots was Voss and Rhys-Davids/mcCudden, so that would be a fit. I wouldn't put it past WNW to simply make a kit that allows future sales of Dr.I versions as well as the F.Is. Isn't that how Roden did it?
 After the AEG, and 1920s versions of the Brisfit and Ninack, the crystal ball is a little murky....   Has anyone seen anymore teaser shots like the ones that Dan-san so nicely deduced would be future releases?

Yes, there would certainly be a DR1 to follow, LOTS of schemes from basic to colorful!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 13, 2015, 09:57:31 PM
One other thing I have been thinking about. Earlier someone mentioned WNW using the Existing SE%a and a Fokker Triplane in a duelist kit. At first I thought that unlikely but after further thought here is my speculation:
IF WNW were to release an F1 version of the Triplane then a Dualists is the ONLY logical way .......

That was me Rick. My thinking was that we'd inevitably see a Triplane released by WNW as a single kit, but that it would also be an obvious choice, in one form or another, for a Duellist set. While box art might prove a source for speculation or just a red herring, the SE5a Hisso box art does show an engagement with Triplane. Perhaps more compellingly WNW have always avoided the obvious clichés. Such a cliché would pair a Triplane with a Camel. Maybe if a Camel was to be released we'd see that in Duellist set with a D.VII or a re-released LGV CVI.

Ah just idle speculation with some wishful thinking!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on January 13, 2015, 10:20:07 PM
I have just done some statistics on WNW new releases rates:
2009 - 4 kits
2010 - 10 kits
2011 - 5 kits
2012 - 9 kits
2013 - 8 kits
2014 - 10 kits
I wonder how many we will see this year? And what subjects?
Still, I personally like that mystery veil around their new releases, the more secret, the better surprise, isn't it?
On the other hand, I have now in my stash two (only two, being proud of it!!) great WNW kits - their newest ones. Taking into account the dimensions of Felix this is probably enough for almost a year of modelling for me. So I could live calmly even if they did not release anything this year  ;) Especially that there are still a few 1/72 subjects I would like to build before my eyesight deteriorates and condemns me to big scale only.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on January 14, 2015, 03:46:59 AM
A duellist of a Camel and a Pfalz? DIIIa, that is. As well as, maybe, just maybe, some resin figures this year?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on January 14, 2015, 06:57:29 AM
There better be some Hanriots....
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 14, 2015, 07:53:17 AM
I would be totally on board for a Hanriot - far more than for DrI/Camel but that is just me I guess :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 14, 2015, 07:57:19 AM
We need a B.E.2, I need a B.E.2, bring on a B.E.2, please  ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on January 14, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
We need a B.E.2, I need a B.E.2, bring on a B.E.2, please  ;)

Des.

I second that motion!  :)

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on January 14, 2015, 08:07:56 AM
We need a B.E.2, I need a B.E.2, bring on a B.E.2, please  ;)

Des.

I second that motion!  :)

Eric

I third it!  But, unfortunately WNW isn't a democracy.  :P

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on January 14, 2015, 08:37:24 AM
Hey!  I'm still holding out for a Berg D.I complete with that nutzy Tarnstoff.  For all you really large type aeroplanes, how about an Ilya Mourometz?  Bet that one would keep you busy for a while.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 14, 2015, 08:47:26 AM
A Friedrichshafen G.III would be a dream come true. A Hanriot would also be sweet with Belgian markings.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 14, 2015, 09:02:58 AM
As long as we are talking "large" aeroplanes, how about the Caproni Ca.3, with examples of this aircraft in museums around the world getting the appropriate data would not cause any problems, it would make for a great kit.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 14, 2015, 09:06:22 AM
As long as we are talking "large" aeroplanes, how about the Caproni Ca.3, with examples of this aircraft in museums around the world getting the appropriate data would not cause any problems, it would make for a great kit.

Des.

Agreed. That would be a nice kit to do. What about a Caudron?

I wonder if Wingnut will ever do a Farmen or Voisin?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 14, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
I scratch built the Voisin and the Caudron G3 in 1:32 scale, but a twin engined Caudron G4 would be an excellent addition. The Farmen is another good choice and probably would prove fairly popular as a kit.

The biggest issue with these larger kits is not only the display area required but the high price of the kit, how many big kits would a modeler buy just to have it sit in a stash because of lack of room to display it. As much as we love these big kits, the Gotha, the Felixstowe and the soon to be released AEG, we still need a range of affordable and easily displayed kits, there are an enormous amount of single seat WW1 aircraft that could be kitted, not just by Wingnuts but any manufacturer.

Des.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on January 14, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
You are absolutely right about big kits, Des. The price and the display area would be a concern to most modelers. I know I have the Wingnut  Gotha, and 1/48 scale B-17's - 4, B-24's - 4, B-29 I have one.  So, when I get around to building these, I have no clue where to display them.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on January 14, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
I would be totally on board for a Hanriot - far more than for DrI/Camel but that is just me I guess :)

nope, I'm with you... for some strange reason I don't desire Dr.I/Camel but rather more surprising subject that WNW brought over the last few years... It has been said many times that WNW will need some Dr.I/Camel type style plane for their marketing but since a lot of us buy mostly anything they release I hardly see that as an argument :D whatever is next I'm excited (and as Przemol pointed out I like surprises too and not knowing what it is makes it even better for me) and I'm almost certain that I will want to buy it :D I bought my first WNW in 2013 and manage to buy another 15 kits in 2014 :D with that I will need to put some serious thinking not just about display areas but also size of my stash...oh dear :D

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 14, 2015, 03:05:32 PM
I hereby throw down the gauntlet and challenge WNW and dare them to release the Lloyd 40.08.  If they were to grow a wild hair and release this frightening sight of an aircraft, they will never ever have to prove their worth as a modeling company to me or anyone else:
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Brian James Riedel on January 15, 2015, 01:22:58 AM
I just want a Pfalz D-VIII.

Brian Riedel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on January 15, 2015, 02:52:50 AM
I think we should square off into teams, Dr1/Camel proponents vs. everyone else, and fight it to the death.

 ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 15, 2015, 03:53:20 AM
...Come on in folks... torches to the left, pitchforks to the right. I take paypal, and don't forget to grab a cobble-stone on the way out!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 15, 2015, 06:55:11 AM
I think we should square off into teams, Dr1/Camel proponents vs. everyone else, and fight it to the death.

 ;D

Ha, even though I am one who prefers they stay away from subjects already done in 1/32 in favor of never-done aircraft, I still would purchase DrI/Camel in a heartbeat if/when they do them. I have the WNW sickness...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 15, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
I would be totally on board for a Hanriot - far more than for DrI/Camel but that is just me I guess :)

nope, I'm with you... for some strange reason I don't desire Dr.I/Camel but rather more surprising subject that WNW brought over the last few years... It has been said many times that WNW will need some Dr.I/Camel type style plane for their marketing but since a lot of us buy mostly anything they release I hardly see that as an argument :D whatever is next I'm excited (and as Przemol pointed out I like surprises too and not knowing what it is makes it even better for me) and I'm almost certain that I will want to buy it :D I bought my first WNW in 2013 and manage to buy another 15 kits in 2014 :D with that I will need to put some serious thinking not just about display areas but also size of my stash...oh dear :D

Cheerio
Lukas

Well I must say that I am in for a camel, maybe 2 and oh well probably 3 DR1s  :-X That being said I have to pick and choose what I buy as I am not in the financial bracket to buy EVERY WNW release.My WNW stash is now only 3, a Late Snipe, Pfalz DIIIa, and a  Pup.  I am also hoping VERY MUCH that WNW release a Dolphin, Fokker EV/DVIII, Strutter, and yes I could go for a Hanriot!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on January 15, 2015, 02:36:00 PM
One other thing I have been thinking about. Earlier someone mentioned WNW using the Existing SE%a and a Fokker Triplane in a duelist kit. At first I thought that unlikely but after further thought here is my speculation:
IF WNW were to release an F1 version of the Triplane then a Dualists is the ONLY logical way. Lets face it, there are only 2 available schemes for the F1s. A duelist version of Voss and APF Rhys Davids / and or McCudden would certainly be the way to go. Limited numbers for a kit with limited schemes!
RAGIII
Yes, yes, yes... fingers crossed...turn around three times and stand on one foot... whatever it takes, I'm there!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on January 16, 2015, 05:35:58 PM
I'd say the Camel was one of the more colourful RFC subjects and I'm looking forward to it.

There'll probably be several boxings too.

There's nowt wrong with pc10, we don't all need to be gaudy peacocks. ;-)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ondra on January 17, 2015, 03:25:48 AM
Well, from my point of view - I have never spent a single penny buying a model kit. However, should WNW release a duellist kit of Rhys-David's S.E.5a and Vosses F.I, this would have me change my mind. :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 17, 2015, 03:42:56 AM
I'd say the Camel was one of the more colourful RFC subjects and I'm looking forward to it.

There'll probably be several boxings too.

There's nowt wrong with pc10, we don't all need to be gaudy peacocks. ;-)

... plus the Pup.  I wouldn't mind seeing a Sopwith Pup boxing with some of the more colorful "hack" and "trainer" versions that existed during the war.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 18, 2015, 01:26:15 AM
I'd say the Camel was one of the more colourful RFC subjects and I'm looking forward to it.

There'll probably be several boxings too.

There's nowt wrong with pc10, we don't all need to be gaudy peacocks. ;-)

... plus the Pup.  I wouldn't mind seeing a Sopwith Pup boxing with some of the more colorful "hack" and "trainer" versions that existed during the war.

Have a look at Pheon' decals.
I have them.  However, not withstanding what is offered on that excellent sheet of decals, there are even more possibilities out there than what Pheon's sheet offers.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 18, 2015, 03:14:47 AM
So has anyone received a shipping notice since WNW returned from holiday? I am sure they are backlogged, but was just curious if shipping had started backed up....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on January 18, 2015, 08:16:50 AM
So has anyone received a shipping notice since WNW returned from holiday? I am sure they are backlogged, but was just curious if shipping had started backed up....
I ordered some kits before Christmas but did not receive any shpping notification yet.
I received support from help, therefore they are back.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 18, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
I'd say the Camel was one of the more colourful RFC subjects and I'm looking forward to it.

There'll probably be several boxings too.

There's nowt wrong with pc10, we don't all need to be gaudy peacocks. ;-)

... plus the Pup.  I wouldn't mind seeing a Sopwith Pup boxing with some of the more colorful "hack" and "trainer" versions that existed during the war.

Have a look at Pheon' decals.
I have them.  However, not withstanding what is offered on that excellent sheet of decals, there are even more possibilities out there than what Pheon's sheet offers.

Do you have any examples?

32015 has some very bright schemes, I'd be interested if there are others as well!

Blue Rider has two (2) sheets that feature the diamond design below, plus a black and white check aircraft.  None of these examples are featured on 32015.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 20, 2015, 05:22:10 AM
Some colorful schemes there for sure!
 Regarding the Felix/Curtis boats: any possibility we might actually see a Curtis H series flying boat? How much of the tooling would cross over?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 20, 2015, 08:07:22 AM
Some colorful schemes there for sure!
 Regarding the Felix/Curtis boats: any possibility we might actually see a Curtis H series flying boat? How much of the tooling would cross over?

I would think a H16 would be a real possibility? Going off memory alone (probably a bad idea) but I think the F2a kit would need new engines, new rudder, new radiators, maybe changes to the engine bearers/struts and maybe a new canopy?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on January 21, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
The AEG has some status change: 2 photos of the cockpit some type detail and an expected release date in february yay
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 21, 2015, 02:01:03 PM
Two new photos on the Wingnuts website showing a close-up of the fuselage interior of their soon to be released AEG G.IV

Des.

Click photo for a much larger image.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TDw2_SAcWDU/VL8jtls1wjI/AAAAAAAAP7s/1x_tVo9BtKs/s1210/AEG%2520x%25201.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fzH6Wg7WsD8/VL8jsv9I7KI/AAAAAAAAP7o/hLtP_Oz8r08/s1210/AEG%2520x%25202.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on January 21, 2015, 03:13:01 PM
Now that's a bomber I might actually buy. Not too big, not too small. It's something in a nice mid-sized sedan with comfortable leather seats, room for the whole family, and will fit nicely in my garage. The neighbors will be envious!

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 21, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
Proof that the delay will be well worth the product when delivered, at least for me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Edo on January 21, 2015, 04:12:25 PM
 ;D ah, ah, ah! George! well put, my friend!
edo
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dol on January 21, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Now that's a bomber I might actually buy. Not too big, not too small. It's something in a nice mid-sized sedan with comfortable leather seats, room for the whole family, and will fit nicely in my garage. The neighbors will be envious!

George

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 21, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
This is definitely on my must have list, has been since I first saw Wingnuts were making it.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on January 21, 2015, 06:41:34 PM
Just when I thought I'd save some pennies :D It looks gorgeous!!!!

Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on January 21, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Yes. Progress on the AEG. Now i know what i am saving my Euros for...  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 21, 2015, 08:00:14 PM
Because if its smaller size and probably lower cost I think the AEG will be more popular than the Felix.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on January 22, 2015, 01:04:45 AM
This looks a very attractive proposition and I will definitely got for one.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 22, 2015, 04:10:12 AM
Any wild speculation on how many versions?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on January 22, 2015, 04:36:04 AM
The now de rigueur Early and Late, I s'pose.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on January 22, 2015, 05:33:42 AM
What? A four place? I thought the G.IV sported a crew of three? Interesting.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Le Taureau qui rit on January 22, 2015, 06:25:49 AM
What? A four place? I thought the G.IV sported a crew of three? Interesting.

The G.IV usually did operate with a crew of three, but (according to the text accompanying photograph 16 in the Windsock Datafile for the AEG G.IV) it was regulation that the observer/nose gunner was required to vacate the nose are during take-off and landing, sitting instead on the seat beside the pilot (hence the extra seat).

Incidentally, the same datafile also says that it wasn't unusual for G.IVs to operate on night bombing attacks with only two crew on board, presumably leaving the rear gunner at home.


D.


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 22, 2015, 11:41:06 AM
Here is a size comparison for the three models, the Gotha, Felix and the AEG.

                      Gotha               Felix             AEG

Wingspan       740mm           921mm           575mm

Length           381mm           440mm           303mm

As can be seen here the AEG is the smallest of the three both in wingspan and length.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 22, 2015, 12:53:01 PM
The now de rigueur Early and Late, I s'pose.


No ground attack G IVk? Or the long wing G IVg?  Didn't some have a box tail?  On the ground attack it mounted the Becker Cannon, it's about time one of those were made, then the cannon sprue could be purchased separately and used on other projects.  Like the Gotha among others.... Lots of possibilities lets' hope they get adventuresome.   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 23, 2015, 01:55:44 AM
Thanks for the size comparison Des. Should be a good buildable, displayable size.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on January 23, 2015, 02:07:39 AM
If they do a G.IVk with a Becker cannon, I'm in! 
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 23, 2015, 08:05:43 AM
That does seem like a good size for the AEG. Wonder what the price will come in at?

Dont know much about the AEG but it looks cool - hope there are some good schemes for it!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on January 23, 2015, 10:03:05 AM
Prototype, Very Early, Earlyish, Fairly Early, Early, Early-Mid, Mid, Midish, Early-Latish, Late, Very Late, Super Late, Too Late.
;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 23, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
Prototype, Very Early, Earlyish, Fairly Early, Early, Early-Mid, Mid, Midish, Early-Latish, Late, Very Late, Super Late, Too Late.

Very clever but probably not far from the truth, Wingnuts like to get as much mileage as possible from each mould so your list would be very close  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 23, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
I'll take them all but the prototype, they are never painted very cool, and the too late, I just don't like the sound of it. 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on January 23, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
Me, I like those post-armistice-too late versions a lot, even if you cannot build them as the mounts of one of those veryvery famous, veryvery bold etc. men. I like those planes, find them interesting, because they're seldom seen, often quite colourful and mostly connected to very interesting stories from quite exotic parts of the world, like e.g. Siberia or Persia... Yes, that's my passion.
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dol on January 23, 2015, 06:48:06 PM
Me, I like those post-armistice-too late versions a lot, even if you cannot build them as the mounts of one of those veryvery famous, veryvery bold etc. men. I like those planes, find them interesting, because they're seldom seen, often quite colourful and mostly connected to very interesting stories from quite exotic parts of the world, like e.g. Siberia or Persia... Yes, that's my passion.
Richard

I like the post armistice version too. For example as I'm building the LVG C VI, I find very interesting the "limousine", the full cabin conversion. I wish I could built this kind of version but I'm not able to do the modification.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on January 23, 2015, 06:55:16 PM


I like the post armistice version too. For example as I'm building the LVG C VI, I find very interesting the "limousine", the full cabin conversion. I wish I could built this kind of version but I'm not able to do the modification.
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Oh yes, the LVG VI "limousine" is beautiful!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on January 23, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
For some reason the newest Wingnuts release of the AEG dose nothing for me, even looking through the Datafile on the subject, but I digress, a question, the Felixstwe kit being larger both physically and in parts count to the Gotha is therefore more expensive than the Gotha. So it should follow that with the AEG being smaller physically ( though of corse we don't know the parts count yet ) that it will be cheaper than the Gotha, it "should" be, but some how I doubt it will be.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on January 23, 2015, 08:14:12 PM
Yes, beautiful. I have an original of this poster:

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/WWI%20posters/LVG_c_sm.jpg)

There is another on sale at ebay at the moment:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371235848626?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Excellent price!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dol on January 23, 2015, 10:14:51 PM

There is another on sale at ebay at the moment:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371235848626?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Excellent price!

Interesting !  Thank you !  :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 24, 2015, 03:56:35 AM
For some reason the newest Wingnuts release of the AEG dose nothing for me, even looking through the Datafile on the subject, but I digress, a question, the Felixstwe kit being larger both physically and in parts count to the Gotha is therefore more expensive than the Gotha. So it should follow that with the AEG being smaller physically ( though of corse we don't know the parts count yet ) that it will be cheaper than the Gotha, it "should" be, but some how I doubt it will be.

My guess is that it will match the $149 of the Gotha, that will still be a bargain.

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on January 24, 2015, 05:23:07 AM
I'm thinking $129...it's smaller than the Gotha, should be a little cheaper in my mind anyway.  WHo know's maybe even $99, is it a lot bigger than the Salmson, or the Hanover?  Or the Rumpler?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 24, 2015, 05:49:50 AM
The felix, though larger, came in at quite a bit higher cost than I guessed so I am thinking the lowest the AEG will be is the 149.00
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on January 24, 2015, 06:42:24 AM
I am thinking it will be in line with the Gotha.  Yes it is smaller, slightly.  But it is a more complex aircraft and for its time very sophisticated.  Don't forget, there may be a sheet of night camo lozenge in the box, lots of it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 24, 2015, 06:53:50 AM
My guess is $200+  Wingnuts will take this opportunity to lift the price of this kit to keep in line with rising manufacturing costs, higher wages plus higher profit margins, we have to remember that Wingnuts is a business and the sole purpose of a business is to make money, they are not a charity. Even at $225 it would still be good value, it is a highly detailed kit and will be in big demand, on top of the Felixstowe and the W.12 it has been a bumper time for Wingnuts.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 24, 2015, 08:33:28 AM
I in no way suggested that Wingnuts are purely profit driven, and no-one, not even an accountant can know the inside workings of Wingnuts. They are a very secretive company and are controlled soley by Sir Peter Jackson, he is a multi millionaire with a passion for WW1 aircaft of HIS liking, he is not swayed at all by what the public wants or needs, he doesn't have to, he has his own model shop. There are hundreds of WW1 aircraft that could be kitted but never will be, why haven't other companies jumped in and made these kits simply because they know there is not a market for them. Wingnuts can make whatever kit they want to and know darn well it will sell purely on their reputation, they are not influenced at all by modelers yelling and screaming for particular kits. They do have sold out kits as all companies do but you can bet your boots that in time most of those kits will surface again, probably under a different box and with some extras added, SPJ will never sell his tooling for these kits so they will always be present with Wingnuts for future use.

You say the Wingnuts have a tiny marketing budget, how do you know that, have you looked into their books. They don't need to market their product, all the forums and websites around the world are doing that for them, free advertising is the best form of advertising, there are even websites and forum dedicated to Wingnuts kits, you couldn't ask for better marketing. They shut down for two weeks over Christmas, big deal, so does a majority of other businesses, try getting a tradesman over the Christmas/New Year break, and besides, their website is still operating over that period and orders are still being accepted, so the only real difference is that there is no staff to process the orders.

I have known many companys who make limited run kits and once sold out that's it, their gone, When Wingnuts first started they made a public statement that all, and I mean all, of their kits are limited run kits, so it is inevitable that the kits will eventually run out, but on the other side of the coin they are being replaced by new kits at a far greater rate. Many modelrs are complaining that they missed out on certain kits, but they were forewarned with the limited run message.

You have written a list of aeroplane that Wingnuts should kit, why not write to all the other model producing companies and ask them to make those kits, I bet you would get a very positive "no way".

We should all be very thankful that Wingnuts are here and producing superb kits, regarldless of the way the company is run they are doing an excellent job and satisfying the modelers, just look at the response on the forum to their Felixstowe kit, an enormous kit with an enormous price but it hasn't deterred modelers from buying it, who needs multi million dollar marketing when the modelers will do it for them, common sense in my eyes.

Des.

PS. I used to own and operate my own model shop so I do know quite a bit about the model industry and how they operate.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 24, 2015, 08:36:32 AM
This is now the end of this subject, please bring this topic back to its original topic by not talking about how Wingnuts is run, how much money they are making or how they should operate their business, it is their business and they will do it the way they feel is best suited for them.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on January 24, 2015, 09:33:12 AM
Everything in life is a limited run. Everything. (Except death and taxes.)  :) :)

Now, back to our useless and wasteful speculation.  :) :) ;) ;)

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 24, 2015, 09:45:00 AM
I still speculate that the AEG will be $200+ which in this day and age is not a bad price, I will definitely be getting one.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on January 24, 2015, 10:15:22 AM
    With our dollar at around $.80 US I may have to concentrate on that which resides in my Stash for a while.......!! :-\ :(
Cheers,
Lance   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 24, 2015, 10:40:19 AM
Sadly, I am thinking the same way Lance, our Aussie dollar went to 0.79 yesterday with predictions of it dropping to 0.76 around June, very sad news for any new Wingnuts kits I want to buy, but, I will still buy the AEG when it is released.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on January 24, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
The Felix is, to me, an expensive kit. That said, it is also a lot of building. I expect the same with the AEG.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on January 24, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
Well, I forget now just who it was that, during the great Felixstowe excitement, said that when you looked at it in terms of hours of building enjoyment, it breaks down to a good value. I have no doubt that the AEG will prove to be similar. As much as I love the Gotha, I feel the AEG has an even cooler look. Add to that the fact it doesn't get as much love as the Gotha in the WWI aviation press, and it just makes me want one even more.
However, I don't have the cash, or the room for it.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on January 25, 2015, 02:18:01 AM
And it was more widely used than the Gotha G.IV. More of them built too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on January 25, 2015, 04:07:13 AM
To put it's size into perspective, it's wingspan was only 3.4 meters greater than the Junkers J.1.  Given that I have a J.1, I can't completely rule this one out based on size.  Wouldn't be fair.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 25, 2015, 07:50:35 AM
Here is a size comparison for the three models, the Gotha, Felix and the AEG.

                      Gotha               Felix             AEG

Wingspan       740mm           921mm           575mm

Length           381mm           440mm           303mm

As can be seen here the AEG is the smallest of the three both in wingspan and length.

The smaller size of the AEG will make it a more manageable kit and model for those who have limited display space. The DH.9 has a wingspan just over 400mm and the RE.8 just a fraction under 400mm while the Junkers J.1 has a wingspan of 500mm, so the AEG with its 575mm wingspan, even though quite large, is still a good medium sized model to display.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on January 25, 2015, 11:36:50 AM
Getting back to Speculation.. and Box Art. After looking at all of the current kits The following is my conclusion: There were several earlier releases that featured Aircraft released later. No need to really get involved in the specifics. The following is a Very ROUGH count:
DR1 featured in 2 backgrounds
Camel in 3( Maybe More but some were difficult to decipher. (Especially if in flames)
SPADS: Featured in 6 backgrounds. ( My eyesight is poor so 1 or 2 of those could have been French 2 seaters)( Especially those in flames)
Albatros DII/DIII 3
Nieuport Scout( Looks Like an 11) 1
Not especially well researched( done very quickly with no means to enlarge) for certainty. The rest had either No other Aircraft or those that have already been released.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 25, 2015, 12:17:13 PM
The Camel is definitely a certainty, maybe even this year, The DR.1 I'm not sure of, it could come as a duellist set with the Camel, Spads, we are all hoping for these but will Wingnuts go that way and the Nieuport, this would be a certain big seller.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on January 25, 2015, 09:23:12 PM
You may well be right at $200 (I hope not!), but I don't agree that Wingnuts are there purely to make money.

If they were, they would increase their batch production numbers so that they never run out - or at the very least, make a new batch once one is sold out. They would have ceased to offer free delivery, they would look to maximise sales by selling via retail instead of direct.

They make kits that they want to make - or, more to the point, Peter Jackson wants to make - then basically make a batch of them and then sell them. That's not the work of a profit driven company. Sure, it's making money, but it's doing it in a way where the normal market research to decide what to bring to market is missing in the conventional sense.

Please excuse my analysis - I'm an accountant and it's my job to maximise profits for businesses. I would love to spend some time working at WNW - it would be very easy indeed to increase their profits significantly!

I hope that it will be priced like  the Gotha... Without a strong euro and with the us economy still wrestling there are just a few that can afford those prices...
An accountant's reasoning sometimes leads to unintended consequences.
To continue their series we must help them sell as much kits as possible and soon.
But l do not continue, since Des asked so.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Trackpad on January 26, 2015, 07:35:10 AM
A Camel would be very hard for me to refuse, notwithstanding my current position of staying with what I have in the cache. The AEG might also be a solid consideration, given that there is one parked about two hours' drive from my front door (yet another "stretched" Canadian connection!).

But I'll have to wait and see if these kits are produced first (yet another glimpse of the blindingly obvious!  ;D).
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on January 27, 2015, 02:15:59 AM
Since TVAL has built and flown a DH-4 American version, I suspect that the DH9 wing molds would be a starting point for various DH4 configurations.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on January 27, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
I expected them to have a back log of orders when they returned to work on the 12th, but they would be working their butts off trying to get the orders out, plus, like you said Kai, they would be preparing the AEG for release in a few weeks, that will mean another heap of orders heading their way. I'm really looking forward to getting the AEG, I imagine it will be an excellent kit.

I think most of us are hoping for a surprise kit but I don't think it will happen until the end of the year, the Felixstowe and the W.12 were both huge surprises.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Phillip on January 27, 2015, 09:11:47 PM
Hi All,
  The more I look at the sprues, the Windsock Datafile's and the new Felixstowe F,2a flying boat with it's RR. Eagle engines, the more I believe that a Fe.2d
is not that far away (hoping beyond hope ) if only someone would do conversions for the FE.'s Such as the the heavily armoured single seater's, the twin Vickers single seat night fighters ( the canvas awning for the front seat and  perhaps a decal denoting the hatched lines and internal position of spent cartridge cases, generators and search lights ) the oblique Vickers mount and oblique camera mounts, twin trainer FE.2c with a few resin after market items a whole world of build opportunities become available.
Regards
Phillip
P.S.
Does anyone have plans for the Felixstowe F2a Lighter?, I see a beautiful Diorama beckoning through the fog of that crystal ball!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fredjocko on January 30, 2015, 12:37:35 AM
You may well be right at $200 (I hope not!), but I don't agree that Wingnuts are there purely to make money.

If they were, they would increase their batch production numbers so that they never run out - or at the very least, make a new batch once one is sold out. They would have ceased to offer free delivery, they would look to maximise sales by selling via retail instead of direct.

They make kits that they want to make - or, more to the point, Peter Jackson wants to make - then basically make a batch of them and then sell them. That's not the work of a profit driven company. Sure, it's making money, but it's doing it in a way where the normal market research to decide what to bring to market is missing in the conventional sense.

Please excuse my analysis - I'm an accountant and it's my job to maximise profits for businesses. I would love to spend some time working at WNW - it would be very easy indeed to increase their profits significantly!

I hope that it will be priced like  the Gotha... Without a strong euro and with the us economy still wrestling there are just a few that can afford those prices...
An accountant's reasoning sometimes leads to unintended consequences.
To continue their series we must help them sell as much kits as possible and soon.
But l do not continue, since Des asked so.

Hi:

I just shipped a 2.7 pound (US) model kit to Australia from Melbourne, FL, USA, the cost was $39.00 US. WNW includes shipping and I know they are shipping from New Zealand; but I'm sure the cost is comparable, and if they are paying $39.00 or even half that for shipping, their prices really are pretty cheap compared to other quality kit manufacturers. Imagine what we would pay if shipping was extra?

Thanx,
Carl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on January 30, 2015, 04:31:51 AM
You may well be right at $200 (I hope not!), but I don't agree that Wingnuts are there purely to make money.

If they were, they would increase their batch production numbers so that they never run out - or at the very least, make a new batch once one is sold out. They would have ceased to offer free delivery, they would look to maximise sales by selling via retail instead of direct.

They make kits that they want to make - or, more to the point, Peter Jackson wants to make - then basically make a batch of them and then sell them. That's not the work of a profit driven company. Sure, it's making money, but it's doing it in a way where the normal market research to decide what to bring to market is missing in the conventional sense.

Please excuse my analysis - I'm an accountant and it's my job to maximise profits for businesses. I would love to spend some time working at WNW - it would be very easy indeed to increase their profits significantly!

I hope that it will be priced like  the Gotha... Without a strong euro and with the us economy still wrestling there are just a few that can afford those prices...
An accountant's reasoning sometimes leads to unintended consequences.
To continue their series we must help them sell as much kits as possible and soon.
But l do not continue, since Des asked so.

Hi:

I just shipped a 2.7 pound (US) model kit to Australia from Melbourne, FL, USA, the cost was $39.00 US. WNW includes shipping and I know they are shipping from New Zealand; but I'm sure the cost is comparable, and if they are paying $39.00 or even half that for shipping, their prices really are pretty cheap compared to other quality kit manufacturers. Imagine what we would pay if shipping was extra?

Thanx,
Carl

Not as much as you might think.  As much as they ship I would not at all be surprised if they were shipping everything at some kind of a lowered flat or bulk rate charge.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on January 30, 2015, 04:36:25 AM

....
Not as much as you might think.  As much as they ship I would not at all be surprised if they were shipping everything at some kind of a lowered flat or bulk rate charge.

New Zealand Post probably has a special "Peter Jackson rate".   ;) :)

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on January 30, 2015, 04:51:37 AM

New Zealand Post probably has a special "Peter Jackson rate".   ;) :)


Ha - yeah I bet he might - given his LOTR and Hobbit movies all being filmed in country. The movies probably have boosted a little bit of tourism as well :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: croas on February 03, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Guys,
I have not looked at all the posts in this thread, forgive me if this is not new :
Some sprues on the W.12 are marked " W12 " only
Others - including the sprues with the fuselage halves - are marked " W12 early ".
That is a sure suggestion that the long-fuselage W12 is coming.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: croas on February 03, 2015, 10:47:45 AM
Adding to the price speculation for the AEG based on its dimensions when compared to other WNW kits :
The AEG has the same length of the Fe2b. And while its wingspan is significantly greater than any of the two-seaters, I think too that maybe we could hope that its price will be the same as the Gotha.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on February 03, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
I hear you Nigel, and I'm there with you in spirit!  :D

As for me and my house, a series of Nieuports such as the 11, 16, or 17 would really make me send more money their way. A lot of my money.  Just sayin'.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 11, 2015, 03:36:20 PM
i wonder if another dfw c.v version is coming ad they did a mid and late, does that mean an early is on the way someday? maybe they want to see how the others do in sales.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 11, 2015, 08:30:57 PM
I hope it is released very soon, I have my finger poised over the PayPal pay button, any day now  :) ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 12, 2015, 01:35:16 AM
I am again giddy with excitement!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on February 12, 2015, 03:03:45 AM
Des,

I am also itchin' on the trigger for the AEG.  Technically a very interesting aircraft.  I am curious as to the paint scheme involved and the night camouflage.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: JastaB on February 13, 2015, 02:31:55 AM
Bo,
I think you are right on. The Halberstadt  would be sooo cool.

Tim
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jknaus on February 13, 2015, 02:47:04 AM
Wish it would come out also.
James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on February 13, 2015, 05:28:15 AM
Really pretty interesting how jazzed so many people are about the AEG, myself as well...I'm quite busted right now but I just don't see myself having the will power to not order one immediately upon release.          -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 13, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
Okay, I'm not saying the AEG is my idea, but I must confess I emailed Richard Alexander and said I wished they would make a AEG G IV, and like two weeks later it popped up on the site....as I said I can't take full credit, but..... ;)....I'm not 100% convinced it was a coincidence...... :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on February 13, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
I've heard rumours about some new version of the albatros coming soon and  also the possibilities of some repop.
Er me
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on February 13, 2015, 10:00:06 PM
I've heard rumours about some new version of the albatros coming soon and  also the possibilities of some repop.
Er me

I can dream that might happen but WNW and rumours  often go far different directions... Still I can dream ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 14, 2015, 07:43:22 AM
I think we all have dreams but I'm certain Wingnuts have a set agenda, they would know years in advance what they will be building, I believe it takes about two - three years to fully develop a kit from drawing board to shop shelf.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 14, 2015, 05:00:59 PM
just ordered a junkers j.1 as i feared that one may sell out one day. i am going to concentrate on buying one or 2 every few weeks until i have all that i feel i need.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 14, 2015, 06:11:53 PM
Received shipping conformation today for my pfalz DIIIA, SE5, and Albi DVa. Once the bank account has recovered I will get a single seat and a two seater Roland  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 14, 2015, 11:50:59 PM
Received shipping conformation today for my pfalz DIIIA, SE5, and Albi DVa. Once the bank account has recovered I will get a single seat and a two seater Roland  ;D

I share your feelings!!! :) I got my shipping confirmation today for Rumpler, Gotha and 5 spare engines!!! Also I did calculations for how much money I should get for my WWII stash and It works for about 600$ - I think I will manage few WNW for that... btw where is that AEG?? :)

Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jknaus on February 15, 2015, 12:35:06 AM
Well got some British birds coming now so I think I'm good for a while. Only thing I want is the AEG G.IV. I wonder if they might bring out a 20mm nosed version or if thats something for the AM guys.
James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 15, 2015, 02:39:24 AM
I jumped on the band wagon too. I ordered the Pfalz D.IIIa when it was on the front page, and threw in an FE2b Early, and Fokker EII,EIII Early to boot while I was at it. I'm very interested in building these, I don't buy just to hoard, but I'm worried that by the time I'm ready, they would be sold out. With all the others I own, this should keep me busy for a few years, until the AEG comes out... Then there's talk of the the Camel... When will it stop?. Aaahhhh...

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ondra on February 15, 2015, 08:20:31 PM
Ok, to be very honest, I have never bought a single kit. Either I was scratchbuilding or I was working on kits I received for reviews or as rewards from modelling contests...

...but should there be a WNW Sopwith Camel, I would not hesitate a single second to order one.

Camel is from my point of view the second to most beautiful WWI fighter (the most beautiful is the Viper powered S.E.5a, of course).

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on February 16, 2015, 03:54:33 AM
TVAL has a couple of BE2's in their fleet and just started operating an Liberty powered American DH4 which was built for them in Texas and finished at TVAL.  If they did an Albatros 2-seater, it would likely be the C.III, though I personally would like to see the C.VII.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 16, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
I am really hoping that the next big surprise from Wingnuts will be the BE.2  :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 16, 2015, 09:00:26 AM
I am really hoping that the next big surprise from Wingnuts will be the BE.2  :)

Des.

I'm definitely with you there, Des

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 16, 2015, 11:03:23 AM
Yes, the BE.2 is at the top of my Wingnuts wish list too. If not, I would love to scratch build one and try to achieve the translucent CDL effect.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: 15badcats on February 16, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
I can't wait for the AEG I wish they would let us preorder like the Felixstowe I'm hoping for a Short 184 and a Caproni CA3 and Vimy And wouldn't a Staaken in 1/32 be awesome
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 16, 2015, 12:17:37 PM
I like the way you think, all of your list would be most welcome, especially the Short 184 and the Caproni.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Royston on February 16, 2015, 03:39:57 PM
I have a Caproni Ca3 in 1/72 and the wingspan is impressive even at that scale.

A 184 Sea folder gives lots of options
And a BE2 WOULD LOOK STUNNING.

Pennies are being put aside just in case ;)

Roy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tiger2 on February 16, 2015, 10:02:31 PM
Just noticed the interior shots of the AEG in the 'model images' section on the WNW site are now in colour - countdown is on! :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on February 16, 2015, 11:38:06 PM
Just noticed the interior shots of the AEG in the 'model images' section on the WNW site are now in colour - countdown is on! :)

I'm sorry, Tiger2, but these two pics have been on for a while already...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 16, 2015, 11:58:27 PM

I'm sorry, Tiger2, but these two pics have been on for a while already...

Yeah but they were sepia-toned before... now they are in full (but not very dramatic) color...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on February 17, 2015, 12:03:32 AM
Just noticed the interior shots of the AEG in the 'model images' section on the WNW site are now in colour - countdown is on! :)

Thanks for the heads up Tiger2.  :) I had missed those.
Only 12 days of Feb left, must be close  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tiger2 on February 17, 2015, 12:20:30 AM
I reckon the colour images are the secret signal, I seem to remember the Felix images were sepia for ages and then shortly after they were swapped for colour versions the kit was released not long after :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 17, 2015, 12:57:24 AM
No, next comes a few pages of the instruction manual to leave us guessing about schemes ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 17, 2015, 06:25:30 AM
Not long to wait now guys, next week probably.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: 15badcats on February 17, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
Check out the new images and description of the AEG model It should be released very soon I can't wait
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 17, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Hold onto your hats gentlemen, this kit is going to be available any day now. Just don't expect it to be a "bargain "
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on February 17, 2015, 04:57:13 PM
... and it says now due out at the END of February, which is new to me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 17, 2015, 07:26:12 PM
Thursday or Friday next week, can't wait  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 18, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
Hold onto your hats gentlemen, this kit is going to be available any day now. Just don't expect it to be a "bargain "


Do you have some kind of insider knowledge?  Or is this just more of the wild speculation this whole thread is full of    :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kai on February 18, 2015, 08:46:52 AM
Hold onto your hats gentlemen, this kit is going to be available any day now. Just don't expect it to be a "bargain "


Do you have some kind of insider knowledge?  Or is this just more of the wild speculation this whole thread is full of    :)

WNW don't do insider knowledge. The place is like Fort Knox.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on February 18, 2015, 08:59:07 AM
wow the built/painted AEG looks stellar - very cool
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 18, 2015, 10:34:54 AM
No insider knowledge, just going on recent history  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 18, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
Wild speculation is what this topic is all about, and a lot of fun as well  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2015, 11:17:24 AM
Now that the AEG is unveiled in its glory on the WnW website, does anyone still believe this will sell for less than $200? I am guessing a $US 250 price tag. Wingnuts managed to crack the $200 barrier with the Felixstowe and people paid it so no way will they retreat back to "cheaper" multi engine kits. This is a multi engine bomber and gorgeous looking model too. They'll want top dollar for it. So my guess is $US 250.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 18, 2015, 12:09:38 PM
With the huge Felixstowes being $269 there is no way the AEG "should'' be over $200 { but that's not to say I'd be surprised if it was } a better comparison kit wise is of course the Gotha and as we all know that is listed at $149, soooo...my best guess is going to be $169, any takers..... 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 18, 2015, 12:40:06 PM
David has made some good points and I think WNW would be looking at ways to claw back some of the money it is spending with the free post offer. Any new kit would be a great opportunity for Wingnuts to increase their prices knowing full well that modelers will pay the higher price, remember, Wingnuts have now built themselves a brilliant reputation for extremely high quality kits, high quality deserves high prices.

I still do believe though that Wingnuts would be looking at the currency exchange rate around the world and will see that they would miss out on a huge amount of orders if prices are set too high, there are only a certain number of Americans who build and buy Wingnut kits, a majority of their sales would be coming from other parts of the world where the $US is extremely high.

As far as adding my two cents worth at a predicted price for the AEG, I feel $185 would, or should, pull it up.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 18, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Hi guys,

came across these two quotes yesterday on FB - 1) Why should it be any more than the other two seaters ????? And 2) Why should it , is it any better than any other two seater that they make ? Maybe you are happy to pay 50.00 more but not everyone has tons of money to burn!!
(Quoting Mike Goehring, sorry Mike) :)

It still surprise me that I said that I'm happy to pay the price for WNW(you get what you pay for) and response was clear assumption that I have a tons of money :) which I don't... If I did I'd be buying those on Ebay and not even care :D

My point is that I totally understand higher prices for new WNW kits (doesn't necessarily makes me happier) and I'm willing to spend money (when I have it) for it...I hope for something under 200$ but most of us wasn't guessing any more than that for Felix either :)

I'm totally hooked for AEG which is strange since I've never heard of this aircraft before I discovered WNW...one of many aspects why I shall continue to support the so we will get to see more of these... :)

Soon we will be back in business - after release it will be back to speculations :D

Lukas

   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 18, 2015, 01:53:52 PM
Well the Rolands that were released later last year, were still the usual $99 like the rest of the other two seaters.  Why do we think this will be so much more than the Gotha?  Why wouldn't they just raise the price on the Gotha, and all the rest of their kits if they are losing so much money?  Conventional wisdom would put the kit between a Roland and a Gotha...the size puts in in that area.  Personally I think it would be $129-$139.  The kit isn't that huge.....Why do we think it would be almost the price of the Felix? 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 18, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
Well the Rolands that were released later last year, were still the usual $99 like the rest of the other two seaters.  Why do we think this will be so much more than the Gotha?  Why wouldn't they just raise the price on the Gotha, and all the rest of their kits if they are losing so much money?  Conventional wisdom would put the kit between a Roland and a Gotha...the size puts in in that area.  Personally I think it would be $129-$139.  The kit isn't that huge.....Why do we think it would be almost the price of the Felix?

I have no idea how this will be priced, but just as observation: ... parts count is greater than Felix and nearly the same as Gotha... Has 5 sheets of decals vs. Felix and 1.25 for the Gotha ...

Real question to me is how many boxings... Kinda hoping they stick to just one this time...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 18, 2015, 06:21:30 PM
Wingnuts try to get as much mileage as they can from a kit so expect some more boxings later down the track if not at the release date.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chris Johnson on February 18, 2015, 11:36:19 PM
I expect the AEG to be expensive and I just put it down to all WnW kits being limited run items. The lower the production numbers, the more expensive they are. We pay a premium because there just isn't the same interest in WWI aviation modelling as there is in other genres of the hobby.

It's interesting to compare it to the 1:35 AFV Club Matador gun tractor I'm currently building, as the part count is in the same ballpark. The Matador consists of 496 parts in plastic, 28 clear parts, 38 PE parts, 5 vinyl tires, 1 decal sheet, and 1 sheet of clear film windows. This comes with a $53.00 price tag, depending on where you buy it.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 19, 2015, 01:43:16 AM
Selling direct has a much higher profit margin than selling to a wholesaler.  I'm sure they have figured out a strategy, why on earth would they sell things at a loss, I think we need to give them a little more credit.  I really don't think there will be any charity benefits held for the WNW crew anytime soon.  I reckon they know what they are doing and are doing quite well. 

As for saying the AEG is almost the same size as the Gotha GIV, the wingspan of the Gotha is 78' (24m) the AEG is 60' (18m) thats a difference of 18' (5.5m), so the Gotha is quite a bit bigger.  That's over 7" (17.7cm) on the model itself.  I'm just saying that when we say they are almost the same size, there is quite a bit of difference......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 19, 2015, 01:46:02 AM
Well the Rolands that were released later last year, were still the usual $99 like the rest of the other two seaters.  Why do we think this will be so much more than the Gotha?  Why wouldn't they just raise the price on the Gotha, and all the rest of their kits if they are losing so much money?  Conventional wisdom would put the kit between a Roland and a Gotha...the size puts in in that area.  Personally I think it would be $129-$139.  The kit isn't that huge.....Why do we think it would be almost the price of the Felix?

I have no idea how this will be priced, but just as observation: ... parts count is greater than Felix and nearly the same as Gotha... Has 5 sheets of decals vs. Felix and 1.25 for the Gotha ...

Real question to me is how many boxings... Kinda hoping they stick to just one this time...


Why so your not forced into buying three?   :D :D :D


That's what I'm fearing too!


I also wanted to mention the DFW was another two seater released later last year and it held to the $99 price tag......if they were going to re-adjust prices why not do it on that kit? 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on February 19, 2015, 02:09:46 AM
    Although having seen the real thing in our National Aviation Museum I only last night checked out the dimensions and "scaled it out" to see how well the Model would fit in my Display cases.........Not!! :'( It's way bigger then I thought, could be a game changer for this little Hobbyist. As for a price guestimate, I'd say same as the Gotha.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on February 19, 2015, 04:17:47 AM
I hope the guys from WNW are not listen to you, Justin.  :-\
$199.- would be fierce................  :'(
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on February 19, 2015, 11:10:29 AM
I am guessing $199 also.

Now reference pics and 360 view are up for AEG.

Wow those pics of that AEG crashed into the hangar are something else - would make an interesting diorama (if anyone brave enough to chop up the WNW kit!) :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Matt Parvis on February 19, 2015, 12:02:34 PM
Petrov, do you mean like this. (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v9E3C7E03/www/products/model_kitsets/32010/assembled_models/32010%201~32%20Hansa-Brandenburg%20W.29%20-%20Per%20Olav%20Lund%20NORWAY%20(2).jpg) 

On the other hand, most of us aren't Per Olav Lund.  :)

Matt
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 19, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
Petrov, do you mean like this. (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v9E3C7E03/www/products/model_kitsets/32010/assembled_models/32010%201~32%20Hansa-Brandenburg%20W.29%20-%20Per%20Olav%20Lund%20NORWAY%20(2).jpg) 

On the other hand, most of us aren't Per Olav Lund.  :)

Matt

Matt, that's one of my all time favorite dioramas. Every aspect of it is amazing. Of course the plane, figures, and water are all done perfectly, but even the way the base is designed is well thought out and adds interest.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on February 19, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
yep - that is an incredible diorama with the W29 and brilliant presentation with the base etc.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tiger2 on February 19, 2015, 09:23:14 PM
The 360 turn around is up now and it looks awesome!!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on February 19, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
I think it looks rather detailed, meaning awfully expensive. My poor wallet.

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 20, 2015, 06:26:24 AM
Does anyone else find it sort of funny that all the archive photos of the AEG are of a crash? Is this all that exists? There must be other period pics, right?

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 20, 2015, 06:48:03 AM
Does anyone else find it sort of funny that all the archive photos of the AEG are of a crash? Is this all that exists? There must be other period pics, right?

Not that surprising… may be all that Sir PJ has in his personal stash :) Crashes were well documented by Army policy. But there are other photos of the AEG for sure :)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/AEG_GIV_bomber.jpg)
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/germany/aeg_g-4.jpg)
(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/McBrideBill/8543.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Russell on February 20, 2015, 06:55:17 AM
Does anyone else find it sort of funny that all the archive photos of the AEG are of a crash? Is this all that exists? There must be other period pics, right?

George

There are but I suspect the they've resisted showing any which will give the game away as regards which 5 markings they've chosen.

Regards
Russell
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on February 20, 2015, 07:28:45 AM
Does anyone else find it sort of funny that all the archive photos of the AEG are of a crash? Is this all that exists? There must be other period pics, right?

George

Hard to say, but some of the releases to seem to have a trend - like I think the FE2 release most pics are of shot down and captured examples and most of the included schemes are the same
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Petie2nd on February 20, 2015, 10:03:08 AM
4 of the images are all of 157/16; the same as the model shown built up. There is a picture of that machine in the Datafile, also from the crash. There may not be any other pictures of that particular machine. I'm sure more photos will be added when details of the other schemes are released.

Crash photos can also show structural and cockpit details not visible in other photos. 2 of the shots are even of a G.IVb, as noted by WNW, so are there only to show some common details.

Rich
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 20, 2015, 10:57:59 AM
Windsock Datafile No 51 has lots of good reference for the AEG, and not just trashed ones  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: 15badcats on February 20, 2015, 01:03:48 PM
Boxart is up for the AEG Wow! Can't wait
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 20, 2015, 01:16:56 PM
Instructions show sprue L for 32042 AEG G.IV Late....

So two versions at least (sigh)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 20, 2015, 01:23:30 PM
Lol now the late version box is up too ...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on February 20, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
WNW sure know how to tease. Its like a peep show
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on February 20, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
nice schemes - good looking aircraft
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 20, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Oh dear... ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 20, 2015, 01:58:29 PM
Well, this is what we feared, two boxings already, how many more to come.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 20, 2015, 02:02:48 PM
Well there we go eh ?
                            Two versions to be released ( no doubt simultaneously ) I will need to peruse the schemes in a bit more detail but ( as usual ) some of the early AND some of the late schemes appeal but with this release I will have to purchase one at a time so need to make a choice.
              With pretty much all the early and late schemes this latest release looks arguably ( and I never thought I'd say this ) better than the Gotha, we truly are in a golden age for Great War aircraft modelling. There has been discussion on what the future holds from WNW such as Straakens and HP 400s ect, well I haven't got a clue, but one thing I do know, this company is going to totally blow us away, yes kits will go " sold out" and most of us can't afford all the kit sets we would like ( but if we could, would we live long enough to build them all, let alone where to put them )  plus it seems as a kit sells out Wingnuts ease the pain with two brand new gems, totally mind boggling .
     All I can say is Vive La Wingnut Wings !!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on February 20, 2015, 02:21:38 PM
Late....I just decided....tough decision, but I gotta put my Aviattic night lozenge decals on something!, love the #7 and the shark mouth.....I'm literally giddy looking through all this!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on February 20, 2015, 02:26:08 PM
Everyone no doubt recalls the release of the Hansa Brandenburg W.12 and the Felixstowe that loomed in the background on the boxart.  This turned out to be the prophetic foretelling of the release of the Felixstowe early and late versions. 

With that in mind, I see that there is something interesting in the box artwork for the AEG IV early version: SE 5a's attacking.  Is this a harbinger of another duelist kit featuring the SE 5a and AEG IV?  Does it foretell a possible release of the Viper engined SE 5a?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
Yes, the AEG looks amazing and appealing etc etc. All that detail loaded on the website but still no whisper of the price.

As Jamo said, it's like a peep show. Lots of teasing but they hold the price back till the last minute.

Anyone still think these kits will sell for $150 or so? I stand by my guess- these are $250 kits and I just hope I'm proved wrong.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 20, 2015, 02:48:23 PM
My uneducated guess puts the price about half way between the Gotha and the Felix at around $200. It's smaller than the Gotha, but has more parts, decals, etc., but it's no where near the size and complexity of the Felix. I'd be very surprised if it is near the $250 range.

If I'm right, maybe I could actually afford one this year. The Late version.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on February 20, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
Go lower, say $199.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 20, 2015, 02:51:57 PM
Ok, $198.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on February 20, 2015, 03:00:53 PM
Colour schemes and instructions are up!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 20, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
$198 usd still makes it $253 aud for me  :'(
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 20, 2015, 03:12:19 PM
$198 usd still makes it $253 aud for me  :'(

Always look on the bright side of life... It could be 500$ later on Ebay ;) I think I will go for it as soon as I make some income :D or sell my WW2 when I get home...

Like you said... golden age for WW1!!!

Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on February 20, 2015, 03:32:14 PM
A fascinating airplane.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 20, 2015, 05:20:30 PM
.... I see that there is something interesting in the box artwork for the AEG IV early version: SE 5a's attacking.  Is this a harbinger of another duelist kit featuring the SE 5a and AEG IV?  Does it foretell a possible release of the Viper engined SE 5a?

Yes, I agree, Eric.

I think the box art for the early version is simply stunning. Maybe a Viper powered SE5a would be WNW's way of showing that they are not forgetting the entry level Great War modeller who might be intimidated by the apparent complexity of the recent multi-engined beauties, or those who cannot afford them.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 20, 2015, 08:13:49 PM
If I can afford one, I'll go early, just on the strength of the box art!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on February 20, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Early box art is indeed lovely Nigel, but I think I'm going to have to Spring for the late ( maybe the early one day )
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 20, 2015, 09:11:16 PM
If I can afford one, I'll go early, just on the strength of the box art!

Best wishes
Nigel

Ok, I'll buy the kit and sell you the box!  8)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 20, 2015, 09:43:24 PM
If I can afford one, I'll go early, just on the strength of the box art!

Best wishes
Nigel

Ok, I'll buy the kit and sell you the box!  8)

George

Well, it would certainly add to my existing collection of empty boxes!
Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 20, 2015, 10:39:26 PM
If I can afford one, I'll go early, just on the strength of the box art!

Best wishes
Nigel

Ok, I'll buy the kit and sell you the box!  8)

George

I think I will try to send that box art to PJ for signature :D worth a try and then frame it in my living room... god, there will be a lot of artwork/box arts from WNW in my living room :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on February 21, 2015, 12:44:53 AM
   If I jump on this one it will be the Late Version for sure, can't resist the patriotic significance of 574/18 from our National Museum. I'm presently pretending that I don't intend to join the frenzy on this Kit but I don't think I'm even fooling myself! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on February 21, 2015, 12:50:42 AM
Okay, question for y'all. Was the Early A.E.G. used mainly during daylight, the Late A.E.G. used mainly during the night?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on February 21, 2015, 02:46:22 AM
Okay, question for y'all. Was the Early A.E.G. used mainly during daylight, the Late A.E.G. used mainly during the night?
James, day and night early on but used more for just night missions in the latter days.    -M
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on February 21, 2015, 02:47:30 AM
Thanks Doug. It'll be an Early A.E.G. the for me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on February 21, 2015, 02:48:59 AM
Okay, question for y'all. Was the Early A.E.G. used mainly during daylight, the Late A.E.G. used mainly during the night?
James, day and night early on but used more for just night missions in the latter days.    -M
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEG_G.IV
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 21, 2015, 03:23:00 AM
Late version for me, I like the night lozenge.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on February 21, 2015, 03:59:02 AM
Late version for me, I like the night lozenge.

Des.

Same for me I think... + I love that ugly fishy head. It was the one scheme I really hoped the'd do.

Hoping it'll be below the $200 mark – The swedish krona has taken a severe beating of late. >:(

/Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 21, 2015, 04:21:49 AM
Late version for me, I like the night lozenge.

Des.

I agree, Des, the night lozenge looks really cool and menacing. Save one for me!

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on February 21, 2015, 04:37:12 AM
Early-bird for me, - I like the handwheel to boost the MG for the front gunner  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on February 21, 2015, 04:59:53 AM
Late late AEG with night lozenge- same as the sole survivor in Canada.

Thank you WNW the wait has been worth it, but have you any new projects lined up for the future?

Time will tell!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 21, 2015, 03:06:22 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if we start to see some re-boxings and deluxe editions that have been promised in the past.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on February 21, 2015, 03:22:20 PM
We know that there is a Sopwith Camel coming, this has been very much anticipated, and a strong possibility of a series of BE.2 aircraft, apart from that I wouldn't have a clue what Wingnuts have up their sleeve.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 21, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
I still vote for the BE.2's There's a lot of variety in the different versions.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on February 21, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
aviatik berg d.1. or a lohner pfeilflieger of some sort, then theres always a phonix, a "d" series or c.1. a hansa d.1 with series 28 or 65 boxing. perhaps a halberstadt. d series preferably d.v. then theres a breguet xiv. a be2e would be swell. can anyone get behing a hanriot hd.1/hd.2 these are a few of my favorite things. lloyd did some neat stuff, also early lvg stuff was neat.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on February 21, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
aviatik berg d.1. or a lohner pfeilflieger of some sort, then theres always a phonix, a "d" series or c.1. a hansa d.1 with series 28 or 65 boxing. perhaps a halberstadt. d series preferably d.v. then theres a breguet xiv. a be2e would be swell. can anyone get behing a hanriot hd.1/hd.2 these are a few of my favorite things. lloyd did some neat stuff, also early lvg stuff was neat.

I want them all!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on February 21, 2015, 07:02:08 PM
Hanriot HD.1 will be a formality  ;)
Sir P and his crew have the original HD from the RAF museum to play with.

Happy days are here to stay  8)

VB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on February 22, 2015, 01:52:31 AM
Yes...an HD1 with markings for a Willy Coppens bus...the king of the balloon busters.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lorenzo on February 22, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
After the Felixstowe's, AEG's, Salmson's, DFW's & W12's, I'm hoping for some nice little single-seater's.

agreed with you, it's time now for Camel, Hanriot HD 1, fokker D VIII, spad XIII...

single seater power now ! ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on February 22, 2015, 04:42:16 AM
After the Felixstowe's, AEG's, Salmson's, DFW's & W12's, I'm hoping for some nice little single-seater's.

agreed with you, it's time now for Camel, Hanriot HD 1, fokker D VIII, spad XIII...

single seater power now ! ;D

Exactly what I think, Lorenzo.  Those four would be perfect and I think the next one will
be one of them, after all the "heavies" lately. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on February 22, 2015, 04:45:56 AM
I'm willing to bet my Aeroclub jig and my entire stock of Eduard Lozenge decals that a Dolphin will be next.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on February 22, 2015, 05:15:15 AM
Albatros W.4 ................ I love Bird's with Floaters under the lower Wings  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on February 22, 2015, 05:35:42 AM
I'm willing to bet my Aeroclub jig and my entire stock of Eduard Lozenge decals that a Dolphin will be next.
Cheers,
Bud

Dolphin – Oh Yes! That would hit the spot for me... Though a W.4 would be very welcome too!  ;D

/Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on February 22, 2015, 05:36:41 AM
I'm willing to bet my Aeroclub jig and my entire stock of Eduard Lozenge decals that a Dolphin will be next.
Cheers,
Bud

I Love your line of thought! if a Fokker EV comes along soon after I would be in Heaven  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on February 22, 2015, 05:53:47 AM
I still think that the Fokker EV would have been a perfect kit to have come out in the beginning. It would have been a good starter kit for us new to first world war aircraft with the rigging and the lozenge camouflage.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ron@redondo on February 22, 2015, 07:33:39 AM
I am getting way ahead but I would like to see a Thomas Morse S-4 Scout and Curtiss Jenny. Built the old Guillow's kit of the Thomas Morse Scout along with the old Lindberg Jenny way back when.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on February 22, 2015, 08:02:38 AM
We wants a Taube and we wants it now, precious.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jamieg on February 22, 2015, 08:32:26 AM
I would like to see some Austro-Hungarian subjects.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: janh on February 22, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
I would like to see some Austro-Hungarian subjects.

like this Lohner credit: Chema Martinez
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on February 22, 2015, 11:16:37 PM
Seems to me that WNW love to hit you with a surprise when you think you know what is coming. Well we have been well warned about the AEGs - I think they'll surprise us this week with a beautiful brand new single-seater released alongside costs for those horrendously ugly bombers. My fingers are crossed for a Dolphin.
Sandy
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on February 23, 2015, 01:57:12 AM
I would love to see French aircraft, Farman, Voisin, Caudron. Austro-Hungarian aircraft would be nice to.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on February 23, 2015, 02:18:29 AM
I'll play...

Halberstatd D-II!  Can't get enough of that delicate tail...

Dan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Modelnut on February 23, 2015, 04:47:56 AM
I really can't afford these kits on a regular basis. I have built the Phalz D3 and enjoyed it.
I will rob a liquor store to pay for a Fokker EV /DVIII !
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on February 23, 2015, 05:57:25 AM
Sir PJ knows what to have the hobbits make next:
(http://www.aviationgraphic.com/1125-1893-thickbox/halberstadt-clii-marianne-bh-35.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on February 23, 2015, 06:09:10 AM
Many, many flares on board. Any idea, anyone, or sources for how they were used as communication devices?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on February 23, 2015, 12:30:59 PM
Sir PJ knows what to have the hobbits make next:
(http://www.aviationgraphic.com/1125-1893-thickbox/halberstadt-clii-marianne-bh-35.jpg)

Oh yeah...Lukas likes Halberstadt... :)

Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2015, 01:04:22 PM
A Halberstadt CL.11? YES and YES again!! Put me down for one immediately. And a BE.2...and a DH5...and a Sopwith Tabloid...and a Fokker E.V...and ( the list goes on).

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on February 23, 2015, 03:35:51 PM
Something simple would be nice for a change - although I'll be 'in' for an AEG at some point. Someone has mentioned this somewhere before in this thread I believe. The $NZ has gone down quite a bit against the US dollar and I paid $NZ20 or so difference for two kits (Alb DV and Pflaz DIIIA) about two weeks apart, early in February. At the moment I have stalled on my WNW DH2 - been overworking it and not getting very far - and large-area Aviattic decaling looms as well. It's nothing to do with the kit. As a 'relief' I've started the Special Hobby 1/32 Bristol M1C (operational version) and I love it. Not quite on WNW level but not far off. A smallish, interesting subject with just enough challenge - this time around practically out-of-the-box;  next one I might jazz up a bit. There are plenty of potential subjects out there like this.

Cheers,

GrahamB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Matt Parvis on February 23, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
Sir PJ knows what to have the hobbits make next:
(http://www.aviationgraphic.com/1125-1893-thickbox/halberstadt-clii-marianne-bh-35.jpg)

Thanks Bo.  Was contemplating one of these in 48th and seeing that scheme has settled the matter.  Sprue Brothers thank you as well!

Matt
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on February 23, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
Yeup Bo,

Been hoping we are going to get one of these for quite a while.

Would love to do the diorama with the guys loading the potato mashers on board from the well known contemporary phtograph....you can see it in the datafile.

Best wishes,

D in D :) :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 07, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
Having had a trio of brand new subjects over the last quarter I'd be very surprised if we got another completely new type from Wingnuts next.
I'd think a few retoolings of existing kits more likely. There must be a late W.12 in the offing along with a Viper SE. Maybe even a DH4 or an early DFW (yawn), perhaps an early SE 5 - although it is quite different from the 5a - think of a 60Sqn machine in blue, red or yellow raiment.
Left field, what about a Salamander!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on March 07, 2015, 08:56:53 PM
Hi all.
IIRC, we had some fun here a while back regarding the likelyhood of a new release being forecast in the background of the box art of released kits.
Well, my new conspiracy theory ;D, based on the recent abundance of multi-crewed aircraft and the box art of 7 kits, is the release of
a SPAD 7 or 13. Or both  ;D.
If any of you are now thinking, gee, counting box tops? This bloke outa get out more! I agree! Haha.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 08, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
BE2

Absolute certainty.

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone has predicted the arrival of the BE2 on this website.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 08, 2015, 06:24:23 AM
A Spad VII or a Nieuport 11 or 17 would all be nice, but I am still saying we will see a BE.2 soon (sorry Eric, here's another dollar  ;))

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 08, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
A Spad VII or a Nieuport 11 or 17 would all be nice,

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 08, 2015, 11:18:15 AM
Yes, why are the Nieuports so neglected by WnWs?  Just one little 11 maybe?

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dal Gavan on March 08, 2015, 12:43:53 PM
There's a list of models (supposedly) currently under development by WNW at Brit Modeller (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234975301-why-no-wingnut-wings-fokker-triplane/page-2 (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234975301-why-no-wingnut-wings-fokker-triplane/page-2)), 2nd post from the top.  Before anyone gets too excited, the Camel is given as kit 32033, which is supposedly a Roland C.II (Early) according to a sprue from another Roland kit, I believe?

Whether the list corresponds to any form of reality or not I shall let you all decide.  Personally I think it's an early Aprils Fool's joke (see the reference to "26 days early" and the date of posting- 06 March).  Besides, it contains no BE.2 nor an Oeffag Albatros D.III (153 Series), so I refuse to believe it.

Happy conjecturing.

Dal.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 08, 2015, 01:17:11 PM
Considering the extreme secrecy with which Wingnuts has done everything up to this point this level of information really seems a bit too good to be true, don't you agree, comrades?

MS

Yes.  I agree with Dal Gavan.  I detect the heavy smell of April Fools come early.  Nothing to see here.  Everyone move along...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on March 08, 2015, 10:55:16 PM
It's not an unreasonable list even if it's guesswork, but I wish they would give us a Hanriot and M5
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on March 09, 2015, 12:43:44 AM
Well, April Fools or not, the Martinsydes and the Dolphin have me intrigued.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on March 09, 2015, 12:53:17 AM
It's not an unreasonable list even if it's guesswork, but I wish they would give us a Hanriot and M5

Yes - very much wanting these two. Add a Halb Cl2 and Cl4 and I would be set with all of my most wanted done in 1/32
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on March 09, 2015, 01:10:07 AM
You're right @petrov27, an Halberstadt (CL.II or CL.IV - or both) would be a very positive thing.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on March 09, 2015, 02:30:34 AM
A Big Ack would be pretty cool....pretty far down the list though...but thanks for the pipe dream ammunition, Dal.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 09, 2015, 04:12:19 AM
Hello All

Well, I've just done a quick count from the WNW site. By my reckoning (which might be a bit off) and discounting the duellists, they have treated us to 29 German aircraft kits, 17 British and just 2 French (versions of the Salmson). Maybe redressing the balance points us towards something British/French next time? Or maybe Italian/Austro-Hungarian? Whatever, I hope it's at the bottom end of the price range this time!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 09, 2015, 06:16:14 AM
"Bottom end of price range"

Amen to that, brother. I'll happily pay 69, 79 or 99USD for any new scout or two-seater that Wingnuts throw our way. But 200USD plus for something too big for my display cases, no way. I've got about 30 unmade WNWs competing for bench time as it is, as do many others.
Wingnuts, your mass market is here!
(IMHO) Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 09, 2015, 07:34:16 AM
Like a lot of the Wingnut releases they have come completely out of the blue, no warning what so ever, so I am presuming that Wingnuts have more new kits sitting on the sideline just waiting for the right moment to release them.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on March 09, 2015, 09:20:10 AM
Like a lot of the Wingnut releases they have come completely out of the blue, no warning what so ever, so I am presuming that Wingnuts have more new kits sitting on the sideline just waiting for the right moment to release them.

Des.

That could well be right, Des.  This company is full of surprises.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 09, 2015, 09:49:04 AM
Apart from the excellent high quality kits they produce, I think the surprise factor is another thing that keeps the modelers glued to the Wingnuts website, we just never know what is going to happen next.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on March 09, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
Despite occasional posts from people claiming Wingnuts has given them an exclusive list of models in development, the truth is only a tiny handful of people outside the WnW operation are privy to what they are doing. This list is restricted to those involved in the development cycle of the kits. Even the WnW people's model friends in Wellington NZ, have no idea what they're up to. So regard any so-called "insider" lists of models in development as pure rumour mongering or wish lists.

Other than what's on the WnW website as in development the only kit they have confirmed is the Sopwith Camel and why that is not listed as 'in development' is a mystery as they have publicly confirmed its existence. As for a Be2, Nieuport, Fokker E.V and so on, these are all pure speculation and wish lists. Trouble is people say it so often on forums, it becomes fudged as fact.

Short version- a Camel is coming, all of those other suggested subjects are just a guess.,

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 09, 2015, 07:02:27 PM
Kit reviewers and magazines may get a sample before general release but this may only be a few weeks at most.  Also if WNW sends an advert design to a publisher featuring new releases, the publisher will see the details a few weeks before the public does.  However I expect under those circumstances that WNW would insist on confidentiality ahead of publishing/kit release?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on March 09, 2015, 08:13:51 PM
Absolutely, Ian. I have just read a build report on Zdenko Bugan's Felixstowe in Czech magazine Modelar. Mr. Bugan got an email invitation in October to build a show-up model from the new WNW line. He agreed not knowing what he was getting into. And then to his shock he got that suitcase-sized box with the Felixstowe kit and 6 weeks time to complete it keeping his mouth shut. Actually, that build log, rather than the description of the kit, is a set of advice pieces, how to plan and build something so large in 6 weeks, taking photos, writing the article, keeping it secret so that everybody is happy - he, the kit producer and the magazine editor.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Lyle on March 13, 2015, 07:08:39 AM
Absolutely, Ian. I have just read a build report on Zdenko Bugan's Felixstowe in Czech magazine Modelar. Mr. Bugan got an email invitation in October to build a show-up model from the new WNW line. He agreed not knowing what he was getting into. And then to his shock he got that suitcase-sized box with the Felixstowe kit and 6 weeks time to complete it keeping his mouth shut. Actually, that build log, rather than the description of the kit, is a set of advice pieces, how to plan and build something so large in 6 weeks, taking photos, writing the article, keeping it secret so that everybody is happy - he, the kit producer and the magazine editor.

I'm very, very impressed with Zdenko Bugan's results on BOTH models in such a short time.  A real testament to his skills!
Lyle
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KitRookie37 on March 14, 2015, 01:50:24 AM
Hello gentlemen,
Have you seen a change on WnW site ? Now, there are some customer models pictures with each kitset. Have a look... ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 14, 2015, 08:50:55 AM
I think those have been there for a while Alain. I know I noticed them when shopping for a kit, and some are from our fellow forumites here.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 14, 2015, 09:14:33 AM
I noticed there is a beautifully built Felixstowe in the customer models section, an impressive model especially when compared to the Sopwith Pup model.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on March 14, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
I saw that!  It's spectacular, especially considering it was done in the most difficult of all the schemes.  All that masking must have taken forever.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on March 14, 2015, 11:57:33 AM
I noticed there is a beautifully built Felixstowe in the customer models section, an impressive model especially when compared to the Sopwith Pup model.

Des.

That's Leo Stevenson's Felixstowe.  There's a nice write-up on his build on Hyperscale. 

http://www.hyperscale.com/2015/features/felixstowe32ls_1.htm

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 14, 2015, 06:53:37 PM
Wow! Thanks for the link, Eric.
For my money, Leo's F2a' s wings look fantastic. Really gives the impression of a big big heavy 'boat hanging from it's flying wires rather than sagging on it's landing wires. Wonderful!
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 14, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
I noticed there is a beautifully built Felixstowe in the customer models section, an impressive model especially when compared to the Sopwith Pup model.

Des.

That would be Leo Stevenson's bird. Top bloke and superb modeller  ;)

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on March 15, 2015, 07:21:00 AM
Come on Wingnut Wings. Bring finally this little Dreidekker.

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/IMG_8390_zpskuxvsolr.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/IMG_8390_zpskuxvsolr.jpg.html)

In all variations please!!!
Perhaps incl. the short winged prototyp   ???  and the F.1   :-* and of course the Dr.1  :P
For that I would pay a little more than the Fokker D.VII................ 8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 17, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
Come on Wingnut Wings. Bring finally this little Dreidekker.

(http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/ASKundASK/IMG_8390_zpskuxvsolr.jpg) (http://s1105.photobucket.com/user/ASKundASK/media/IMG_8390_zpskuxvsolr.jpg.html)

In all variations please!!!
Perhaps incl. the short winged prototyp   ???  and the F.1   :-* and of course the Dr.1  :P
For that I would pay a little more than the Fokker D.VII................ 8)


I am sure there are more than a few who would do the same GLADLY !

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on March 17, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
I gotta say I would really be excited about a F.1 or Dr.1   Hopefully WNW would include streaky decals like they did in the DVII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 17, 2015, 12:39:39 PM
You never know, someone else might release a DR1 in 1/32 soon...

Yes, you never know... ;) :-X
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fredjocko on March 17, 2015, 01:16:09 PM
Well, WNW shows a DR.1 on the box art of the SE.5...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 17, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
You never know, someone else might release a DR1 in 1/32 soon...

Yes, you never know... ;) :-X

Ok, what do you two know? Spill the beans!   8)

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 17, 2015, 02:41:53 PM
You never know, someone else might release a DR1 in 1/32 soon...

Yes, you never know... ;) :-X

Ok, what do you two know? Spill the beans!   8)

All I can say is you need to be paying more attention...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 17, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
You never know, someone else might release a DR1 in 1/32 soon...

Yes, you never know... ;) :-X

Ok, what do you two know? Spill the beans!   8)

All I can say is you need to be paying more attention...

Ok, I caught the hint from Richard about Streaky Decals a couple of Months ago. Actually I think it was a statement more than a hint. But I am not sure where I missed the DR1 hint? Just one question, will I need to sell stock to get the kit  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 17, 2015, 04:11:06 PM
Yes, I know Richard has some things going on, but I thought that was his Ansaldo. Hmm, I guess I'm a bit slow on the uptake...

It will reveal itself to me when I am able to see it, Zen Master!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 17, 2015, 04:38:50 PM
Yes, I know Richard has some things going on, but I thought that was his Ansaldo. Hmm, I guess I'm a bit slow on the uptake...

It will reveal itself to me when I am able to see it, Zen Master!

I didn't mean to imply it was Aviattic, I am as blind to the Hinted at kit as you!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on March 17, 2015, 10:58:19 PM
    There have been many (appropriate) comments and speculative ramblings concerning some alternative choices to the Wingnut Line, the Ansaldo looks like a wonderful start and, given Aviattic's efforts to date, will prove a solid one. A DR.1? I'd personally do handstands and cartwheels immediately before ordering several! Let's keep that thought! ;) If, like me, you're a dreamer feel free to insert other types in lieu of DR.1 in the foregoing, Camel? Alby W4? Nieuport 10, 11, 17, 23??
Cheers, ;)
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 18, 2015, 01:28:36 AM
Not to go too far astray from the WNW speculation that this thread is supposed to be about but, is this one of the clues I missed?

Viva Spain
(http://imageshack.com/a/img540/1911/IlXYX1.jpg)

If so, I did wonder what the cryptic message meant. 

Now I'll drop it. 'Nuff said on the subject.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 18, 2015, 01:57:24 AM
I wonder how many of us have built every single one of the Wingnut kits, and I mean built, not stashed  ???

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on March 18, 2015, 02:00:18 AM
I wonder how many of us have built every single one of the Wingnut kits, and I mean built, not stashed  ???

Des.
Well, based strictly on what's in my stash, not on what's available, It's one down, 17 to go.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 18, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
For me Bud it's 13 built and 19 in my stash.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 18, 2015, 02:08:21 AM
I wonder how many of us have built every single one of the Wingnut kits, and I mean built, not stashed  ???

Des.

Ha, true! My guess that if you've bought more that just a few, then most are still in the box. For the record, I have ten in my stash with two of those in progress.

In the Model RR community, Fine Scale Miniatures has been producing high quality "craftsman" kits of buildings for over 40 years. Unfortunately, these unbuilt kits have become collectors items so most people don't build them. They just buy and sell them, back and forth on the collectors market, for stupid amounts of money.  I hope this isn't the future of WNWs kits.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on March 18, 2015, 03:26:50 AM
For the outfit that is unarguably the foremost WWI air modeling company, it is hard to believe that they would ignore one of the War's most important aircraft, if not in numbers made, but in history, legend and just plain awesome piloting skills: F1 103/17.

Werner's triplane, we wants, it precious, we wants it forever...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on March 18, 2015, 04:15:56 AM
Is there going to be a scale models expo in Wellington NZ this year like there was one last year, early in April? Remember, WnW revealed their wonderful Roland C.II Walfisch kits then and there! So if there'd be that expo again this year, might we dare hoping..?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on March 18, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
For the outfit that is unarguably the foremost WWI air modeling company, it is hard to believe that they would ignore one of the War's most important aircraft, if not in numbers made, but in history, legend and just plain awesome piloting skills: F1 103/17.

Werner's triplane, we wants, it precious, we wants it forever...
No, it cannot be so...
Recently I bought a stash of encore Dr1 from aviattic. :-)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 18, 2015, 11:13:45 AM
We really are a very funny lot......

Here, in just the last 3 months, WnW has given us models we could not have dreamed of......and yet we are already wondering what's next!

Works for me.....

What's even funnier is that we are trying, by some sort of force of will, to get WNW to release the WWI equivalent to the Messerschmitt 109.  It's not like there isn't a decent kit of the thing out there already.

BTW, WNW, hurry up and release a Fokker Dr.I/F.1 :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 18, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
We really are a very funny lot......

Here, in just the last 3 months, WnW has given us models we could not have dreamed of......and yet we are already wondering what's next!

Works for me.....

What's even funnier is that we are trying, by some sort of force of will, to get WNW to release the WWI equivalent to the Messerschmitt 109.  It's not like there isn't a decent kit of the thing out there already.

BTW, WNW, hurry up and release a Fokker Dr.I/F.1 :D

They've already released the WWI equivalent to the Bf109G in the form of the Albatros D.V. Sorry, but in my mind, the Albie series is the One-oh-thingee of the first unpleasantness. I love Fokker Tripes very much, but they were produced in low numbers, and most of the impact they had is in the post-war hype, and in our love for a neat looking a/c.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 18, 2015, 12:32:07 PM
We really are a very funny lot......

Here, in just the last 3 months, WnW has given us models we could not have dreamed of......and yet we are already wondering what's next!

Works for me.....

What's even funnier is that we are trying, by some sort of force of will, to get WNW to release the WWI equivalent to the Messerschmitt 109.  It's not like there isn't a decent kit of the thing out there already.

BTW, WNW, hurry up and release a Fokker Dr.I/F.1 :D

They've already released the WWI equivalent to the Bf109G in the form of the Albatros D.V. Sorry, but in my mind, the Albie series is the One-oh-thingee of the first unpleasantness. I love Fokker Tripes very much, but they were produced in low numbers, and most of the impact they had is in the post-war hype, and in our love for a neat looking a/c.

Warren
I'll agree to disagree with ya, Warren.  No doubt the Albatros is very well known and was built in substantial numbers.  However, the two most iconic images of the WWI air war are the Sopwith Camel and the Fokker triplane.  No others need apply.  Manfred Von Richtofen basically insured that this would be the case by flying his last mission in one against Roy Brown, who flew a Camel.  Popular culture has further done its part to further engrain the image of the tripe into the collective conscience (Charles Schultz, thank, you).

Just one man's opinion.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on March 18, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
Hello guys!!!

Here we go again...and again and again :D I don't think there needs to be sorry on either side ;) just speculating but I'm with Warren on this :) Quite frankly I don't really care what they release since I'm basically in love with whatever they do :D although I find it bit tedious to listen that WNW should release DR.I I still find funny how that topic will reappear and disappear every now and then ;)

Cheerio
Lukas

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 19, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
I do not wish to argue either, but I do feel compelled at this point to defend my post.  Nothing in the original post I quoted mentioned anything about icons, etc., just the equivalent a/c, and that is what I answered to.
I do agree, the Fokker Triplane is one of a triumvirate of WWI German icons, the others being the Stahlhelm and Marschstiefel. However, as much as the Bf109 was the backbone of the Luftwaffe, the Albatros series was the backbone of the Luftstrreitkrefte for the majority of time they fielded fighter a/c during WWI. This is the logic I was using.

Now, as to why WNW has not released a Fokker Triplane, I could only guess. It is surely NOT because it wouldn't be a money-maker because we all know it would. They have their reasons though, I am certain. I'm also certain they're not going to tell us either.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 19, 2015, 11:10:27 AM
You are spot on Warren, Wingnuts will not tell us anything let alone why they are not (or as far as we know they are not) making a Fokker Triplane, it may come as a complete surprise one day as a duellist kit with the Sopwith Camel, who knows. As we have said in the past, regardless of what Wingnuts produce and release they will sell many kits, they have their die hard followers who will buy anything with the Wingnuts name on it. The Wingnuts reputation has been built up over the years as being producers of top quality well engineered plastic model aeroplane kits, they have cemented their name into modeling history.

I. like many others, will just sit back and wait for any news, if I like what they release I will buy one, if it is not to my liking or is too expensive it will be pushed aside, simple facts.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 19, 2015, 11:33:41 AM
Here's how I view Wingnut Wings and their choice of models they produce. They are like a very successful rock band that has been touring for years. They've played their hits from the radio ad infinitum until they are so bored they never want to hear those songs again. Now they just want to be creative and make the songs they want to hear. The true fans will still listen and buy the album, but the general public will loose interest. The DR.I and the Camel are the radio hits. WnWs are bringing us true WW1 aviation fans the obscure, strange, interesting, but not always well known songs from the heart.  :)

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: fredjocko on March 19, 2015, 09:31:18 PM
George:

That is an interesting analagy. I thought when Wingnuts first stated I read on this or another forum that Sir Peter was making the planes he wanted as a boy. I had the impression there is an "emotional attachment" to the subjects produced. I was never interested in WWI aircraft until WNW came on the market and find the subjects pretty cool and to be honest I can't wait for the next one; whatever is is.

Since I never heard of the band when they were at their prime; but I discovered them and I and I really like them now and I can't wait for the next song to come out. :)

Thanx,
Carl
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 19, 2015, 09:40:38 PM
But our amps go to '11'!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on March 20, 2015, 03:11:56 AM
But our amps go to '11'!
Thanks, Nigel.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 20, 2015, 06:55:14 AM
You are spot on Warren, Wingnuts will not tell us anything let alone why they are not (or as far as we know they are not) making a Fokker Triplane,

Harken back to one of the 1st interviews with Richard A, where he did mention not ( immediately-- my interpretation) doing models of existing subjects ...if they were of sufficient quality, alluding to the Re-tool Camel and the Tripe( which are fairly good kits).  Of course in time they would (as with the Camel), but not being a ..."market driven"... company they can concentrate on the subjects near and dear to Sir PJ and when the WNW Tripe does appear, not only will they sell but just how many will you buy....

Ed




and for the latest WNW Speculation look at the thread for the NEW WNW Clayton and Shuttleworth decals...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 20, 2015, 08:49:13 AM
But our amps go to '11'!

Bo, I beat you to the "42" reply a while back, but you beat me to this one.  ;) :D

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 20, 2015, 09:08:27 AM
Michael,

11= Spinal Tap
42= The Hitchicker's Guide to the Galaxy

See the movies or book for the answers, I don't want to be a spoiler.  8)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 20, 2015, 09:15:52 AM
Exactly, what George said.

Michael, treat yourself to some really great fun. Get some beer, some snacks, sit down, reminisce about our rock 'n roll youth, and watch the movie Spinal Tap.

You'll be glad you did.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 20, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
Man, I loved Spinal Tap (And all of the other movies Christopher Guest is involved in) but I don't remember the numbers. BUT, rest assured, I will investigate.

I also never read Hitchhiker's Guide......or Zen in the art of Motorcycle Maintenance....or Jack Kerouac.....but I will.

(Does this have anything to do with WWI aviation models?)

Oh man... Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance was hugely influential to me... See "gumption trap. (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumption_trap)" -- quite germane to our little predilection...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 20, 2015, 01:06:24 PM
Ok Michael, never read Hitchhiker's? Zen? Kerouac? You're gonna lose you're license to operate as an artist in NYC if word gets out.

I know what your homework assignment is this week...

And this has nothing and everything to do with WW1 and Wingnuts  8)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dwaynewilly on March 20, 2015, 03:44:01 PM
But our amps go to '11'!


what? ... where did I put my towel?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on March 20, 2015, 05:14:26 PM
"Stone enge"
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 20, 2015, 08:10:36 PM
Mud flaps, my baby's got 'em.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 20, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Okay, I'll be that person.  This thread is officially off the rails now.  May be time to get back on topic.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on March 21, 2015, 01:48:01 AM
Thanks Eric, I was just trying to make a simple analogy, I didn't mean to derail the thread.  ::)

And now that we mentioned rails, let's not start talking trains...  :o

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 21, 2015, 02:15:29 AM
Given WNW made early statements about not duplicating existing kits, I'd have thought Nieuports would likely be far down their list of priorities. There's good 11/16 types from Special Hobby/ A-Model, the venerable 17 from Hobbycraft/Academy and a whole series of 23/24/27/28s from Roden.
.... but a WNW Macchi M5 would certainly get my vote and would hit my Paypal account the second it was released.
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 21, 2015, 02:39:31 AM
You are right, Sandy......I'm afraid I have been spoiled by WnW's extraordinary quality and just don't get quite the same ooh, ahh feeling when I open a box from one of these other companies.

Cheers
Case in point is the Roden Sopwith triplanes.  The fuselage is too short and, as a result, only permits the accurate building of a prototype.  But, even with those shortcomings ( pun intended) overlooked, the overall look of the WNW tripe is just so much better.  Not to mention, the quality of the styrene in the WNW kit is much better, at least between those two manufacturers.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 21, 2015, 04:54:11 AM
 .... and actually I find the sheer quality of WNW a little daunting.
eg - I'm working on an Avis E.V just now and I have no hesitation in grabbing the drills, filing sticks, dremel etc to "improve" the kit, but when I was working on my WNW SE5a, I didn't want to sand anything in case I lost all that beautiful detail. Even cutting bits from the sprue felt a bit of a desecration: the attachment points needed work to remove them but that meant scraping and sanding amongst the finest detail.

OK, this is a first-world problem - but I feel nearer the old modelling skills with a Roden or Special Hobby kit. Mayne when I've made a few more Wingnuts I'll attack them with less care!
Sandy   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on March 21, 2015, 05:02:52 AM
I don't think anyone is knocking the Roden stuff, it's just the bar has been raised.  I do have the Eocore (Roden) Fokker and a few SPAD's, and I would build any of them, but when I have a stash of awesome WNW kits, I keep the Roden stuff on the back burner for now.  Now if I had an absolute chub to build a SPAD or the Triplane, I would do so, but at this point I feel like I have enough good quality WNW kits to keep me busy until maybe WNW does indeed release a F.1/Dr.1.....As I said it's no knock on Roden, they have been in this market for a long time.  Now there is a new(ish) game in town.  I'm willing to bet we will see other companies start doing WWI.  The 35th scale armor has seen a bunch of WWI tanks released lately with a bunch more on the way.  I believe WNW is responsible for that as well.  No one had made any WWI tanks before this.  There were a few turds, but they weren't worth building, unless you just had to build one.  Now a bunch of up and coming companies such as Takom and Meng even Tamiya have jumped in and made really nice WWI tank kits.  It wouldn't surprise me a bit if you saw someone like Takom or Meng, even Trumpeter get in the 1/32nd WWI aircraft arena.  They will no doubt raise the bar again, maybe not higher than WNW but they will be good solid kits.  Roden will have to step up to modern day standards....it's just how it is......

Look at Tamiya, they invented the 1/35th space, they made a bunch of groundbreaking kits in the 70's and 80's.  Then in the early 90's Dragon started making kits. Dragon exposed Tamiya's shortcomings and started making better more accurate kits.  Then Trumpeter came along and started making tons of nice kits, (yes some were better than others.)  Tamiya could have sat back and said "hey we created this space" and rest on their laurels, but instead they bucked up and started making great stuff, they raised their own level.  Dragon then followed suit again, making even more phenomenal kits.  I feel that the tank guys might be the pickiest bunch of modelers in the world.  If it's not 100% accurate it is ripped, they demand excellence and the manufacturers deliver it to them.  I don't know if WWI is a big enough genre right now, but it seems it's ranks are growing every day.  If marketing people notice this, you will see more from others, no doubt.....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on March 21, 2015, 05:09:35 AM
The quality of WNW is what lured me away from 1/35th.  It was the only thing I had seen that rivaled Tamiya, and Dragon.  I had always admired these planes but I didn't want to spend all my time turning a mediocre kit into something respectable, I wanted to take a great lit and make it a show stopper.  I know a lot of guys don't like to do that, but my time is limited and I really want to make the most with what I have. 

 I do also want to say that the Fokker DR.1 is prob the most iconic of all WWI images.  it just is. Everyone knows exactly what it is and when it's from, even people who are historically challenged... :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 21, 2015, 06:34:26 AM
You are right, Sandy......I'm afraid I have been spoiled by WnW's extraordinary quality and just don't get quite the same ooh, ahh feeling when I open a box from one of these other companies.

Cheers
Case in point is the Roden Sopwith triplanes.  The fuselage is too short and, as a result, only permits the accurate building of a prototype.  But, even with those shortcomings ( pun intended) overlooked, the overall look of the WNW tripe is just so much better.  Not to mention, the quality of the styrene in the WNW kit is much better, at least between those two manufacturers.

That's a little unfair on Roden. Their Tripe was made some years ago, and they ploughed a furrow that WNW have widened considerably. There is a modified fuselage available for the kit that corrects the error, which not many people would notice anyway unless they were told.

Roden also cater for other scales & genres.

When launched, Roden kits were praised. Windsock magazine were drooling over them. It's hardly their fault that WNW, supported by bucketfuls of money & a boss who just makes whatever takes his fancy, have subsequently raised the bar.

No one's blaming anyone.  However, the stark contrast in quality is self-evident.  It was evident enough to Roden to chase them from the market.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 21, 2015, 09:11:08 AM
It would be very interesting, wouldn't it, to see what sort of WWI aircraft kid a company like Tamiya might produce. But, I think Tamiya-san is too savvy a businessman to try and compete with Sir Peter, at least at this point.

No, it's because there is little to no interest in WWI modeling in Japan. It's just not their thing. Based on conversations with friends and/or acquaintances that have lived and worked in Japan, the kits produced from Tamiya, Hasegawa, Fine Molds, Bandai, Nichimo, Fujimi, etc. are driven by market forces in Japan for the most part.  There are a lot of kits that never hit the markets in the Europe, N. America, Australia, etc. because they're intended for the Japanese market.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 21, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
You made some good points Michael.

My heart also went out to Mike West and his soon to be released Felixstowe, the same thing happened to Costas at GasPatch with his brilliant Salmson kit, and we now have a similar situation with the Alley Cat Bristol M1.c and now the newly released Special Hobby Bristol M1.c

I can see where you are coming from Warren with your comment on Tamiya and the other Asian manufacturers, like most manufacturers they go where the market is best suited for their product.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on March 21, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
Hello guys,

just a wonder... maybe(and quite possible) it's just me being late but how long these http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3028&cat=3 been around??? I'd swear I haven't seen them until today and I visit WNW page on daily basis :D

Cheers for updating me on this :)
Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on March 21, 2015, 01:48:34 PM
Hi,

They have been there as long as all the other Albatos sets.

I saw all the others but can't remember seeing these before... well, thanks for clarifying that :) Well, at least that cheered me up :D

Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on March 21, 2015, 02:34:39 PM
Here is Richard Alexander's build of one of those camouflaged Albatros

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Build%20Same%20Kit%20competition/BSKJune122b.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Build%20Same%20Kit%20competition/BSKJune122.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Build%20Same%20Kit%20competition/BSKJune1214b.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20Albatros%20Build%20Same%20Kit%20competition/BSKJune125b.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 21, 2015, 11:14:51 PM

I used to feel exactly the same way. They were just so beautifully presented that I didn't want to 'ruin' them by building them. Having now 'ruined' a couple it isn't really a problem, but even so when the AEG arrived I quickly opened the box, pulled out the decal bag, and ripped it open - there - ruined! Ready to build :)

I have been doing just as you from the beginning! When my next two kits arrive they will both have bags opened and get "Ruined"  ::)
RAGIII
PS: My biggest three on the wish List are the Dolphin, Fokker EV, and 1 1/2 Strutter.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 21, 2015, 11:28:14 PM
Three worthy choices Rick

Hmm top three

Halberstadt CL.II
Vickers Gunbus
SPAD A.2 (unlikely!)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on March 22, 2015, 12:26:20 AM
Totally agree on needing a Halb Cl2

My top desires (PJ are you listening?)    :)

Macchi M5
Halb Cl2
Hanriot HD1
Halb Cl4

Pretty sure we will see em do the Cl2 and the HD1 but the others I think are more iffy....
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on March 22, 2015, 12:44:27 AM
My Top Choices.

Farman MF.11 Shorthorn
Friedrichshafen G.III
Hanriot HD.1
Voisin - Any make
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jamieg on March 22, 2015, 03:20:02 AM
My wishes;

Berg D.I
Oeffag Albatros D.III series 153 or 253
Hanriot HD.1
Hansa-Brandenburg D.I
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on March 22, 2015, 03:45:22 AM
Again - Fokker F.1/Dr.1
         - Halberstadt Cl.II or Cl.IV
         - Albatros D.I or D.II or D.III or W.4
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on March 22, 2015, 03:53:37 AM
You're sitting at the source Justin!!
Print this list and stick it to any picket in Wellington ............ to each lamppost, at each corner of the house and to each windscreen (right side) of each car  8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 26, 2015, 12:35:11 AM
... and another one bites the dust!

There goes the Albatros DVa - kinda as expected.
S
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: First tee on March 26, 2015, 12:38:21 AM
... and another one bites the dust!

There goes the Albatros DVa - kinda as expected.
S

I just ordered one the other day.  Maybe it was the last one?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on March 26, 2015, 02:08:29 AM
The sellouts reflect successful sales and I hope that WNW is living up to its business model.

Personal Future Release Wishlist?  1. BE2e/BE2c, 2. Halberstadt D.II/D.III, 3. Voisin LA3, 4. Breguet XIV B2/A2 5. Albatros C.VII,6. Sopwith Strutter English/French, Single and 2 Seat, 7. Halberstadt Cl.II & 8.AW FK.8

It is a big list but there are so many possibilities.  Plus, the Albatros C.VII and the FK.8 are real long shots, unless Sir Peter thinks like me.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 26, 2015, 09:12:36 AM
Great list IMHO Cap'n!

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: prepcik on March 26, 2015, 10:14:12 AM
Let me add my vote

Halberstadt Cl.II, Cl.IV
Spad XIII
Breguet XIV
Albatros D.I , D.II

Regards,
Paul
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on March 26, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
Plus, the Albatros C.VII and the FK.8 are real long shots, unless Sir Peter thinks like me.

I wouldnt count anything out - never woulda believed the Junkers J1 and HBW29 would see releases in 1/32.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on March 26, 2015, 09:39:48 PM
The Albatros D.Va isn't sold out - it's still available in it's OAW guise. When using Aftermarket decals, there are still zillions of options...

Stefan
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Checkers67 on March 27, 2015, 01:19:33 AM
My record player is stuck on A-H fighters still. Any will do. Other Central Powers aircraft on my wish list;
Halbie CL.II or IV
Albie C.III
Albie D.III
Allied Powers;
Neuiport 17 (plenty of decal options)
Sopwith Camel
Spad VII (plenty of decal options)
Thomas Morris Scout
Curtis Jenny
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on March 27, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
I want that SPAD with the big ugly chicken on the side  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 27, 2015, 06:45:01 AM
I want that SPAD with the big ugly chicken on the side  ;)

Ugly chicken.  I have no idea what you are talking about ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 27, 2015, 06:49:02 AM
I heard that same story Michael about the Wingnuts crew climbing all over the Jenny and taking measurements, could be another kit in the making, and I hope with an Avro 504 and a BE.2

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on March 27, 2015, 09:46:43 AM
Spads would be good and maybe a Sopwith Strutter.

Naturally I'd call for anything Albatrossy as always.

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Moonpuppy on March 27, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
I heard that same story Michael about the Wingnuts crew climbing all over the Jenny and taking measurements, could be another kit in the making, and I hope with an Avro 504 and a BE.2

Des.

Oh wow...Barnstormers anyone? I know that gets out of the scope of this website but think about the possibilities.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on March 27, 2015, 01:23:35 PM
WNW is the first 1/32 injection kit maker to venture into the 1920s,(Snipe...) so a Jenny would fit right in here I think.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 28, 2015, 03:44:35 AM
WNW is the first 1/32 injection kit maker to venture into the 1920s,(Snipe...) so a Jenny would fit right in here I think.

IIRC, Richard Alexander was quoted early on in WNW's existence that the Jenny was not in the cards as a planned release.  Circumstantial evidence suggests that those early plans have now changed.  Not surprising really.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 28, 2015, 07:07:20 AM
He also said that they would never make a Sopwith Camel as there was already a good one out there, guess they had a re-think on that one as well  ???

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stevie g on March 28, 2015, 07:39:14 AM
I've missed where Wingnuts have stated that they are to do a camel, where is this statement ?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 28, 2015, 07:57:32 AM
I've missed where Wingnuts have stated that they are to do a camel, where is this statement ?

It was in an interview a couple of years ago now and was reiterated on facebook about 2 months ago during a survey of wanted kits. Richard said not to vote for a Camel as it was in development. I am sure Des or someone still has the link to the original statement.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 28, 2015, 08:02:55 AM
He also said that they would never make a Sopwith Camel as there was already a good one out there, guess they had a re-think on that one as well  ???

Des.

I do not recall the words -"never"- being used...

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on March 28, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
Comment re Sopwith Came came out in the Feb-13 newsletter published by The Great War Special Interest Group of IPMS GB:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4x0GQLi-Oj2S1VxWHBZWTctb2s/edit?pli=1

Scroll down to p29. Excellent magazine by the way, I really should subscribe
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on March 28, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
He also said that they would never make a Sopwith Camel as there was already a good one out there, guess they had a re-think on that one as well  ???

Des.

I do not recall the words -"never"- being used...
Nor do I.  I doubt the words "never" have ever been used when R. Alexander has discussed possible future releases; unless, of course, someone asked if WNW was planning to do a Saturn V...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 28, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
An extract from the Q and A article in Hyperscale June 2012


Q: Although the 2010 feature article on Wingnut Wings published on HyperScale stated there was no perceived need for a WNW Sopwith Camel due to the Hobbycraft kit, the Hobbycraft model is now unobtainable and many believe a Camel is a ‘natural” for Wingnut. Can you advise if Wingnut is working on a Camel? If not why not?

A: I can advise that we are not working on a Camel. Why not? Because we are currently working on models of aircraft from the Great War that have never been modelled in 1/32 scale. But this does not rule out the Camel (or any other subject for that matter) for sometime in the future. Never say never.

There you go, I should have said that he said they are not working on a Camel, my mistake, but the word "never"was used, I just got it in the wrong place, sorry that my memory is not the 100% that it used to be, I will hang my head in shame for making an honest mistake.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on March 28, 2015, 04:14:01 PM
Des, you shall stay in the comfy chair till lunch time with only a cup of coffee at eleven!
Cheers,
Bud the Inquisitor!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on March 28, 2015, 05:09:37 PM
He also said that they would never make a Sopwith Camel as there was already a good one out there, guess they had a re-think on that one as well  ???

Des.

Hi Des.  :)

I interpret your term "never" as an "exageration in support of explanation".   :D

regards,

boggie "the fair"  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 28, 2015, 05:25:44 PM
A Junkers D.1 would be fantastic along with a BE.2, an Avro 504 and a Jenny, would make for a good collection of aeroplanes.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on March 28, 2015, 09:48:17 PM
Maybe we should be speculating on which kit will disappear next...
I see the Alby (OAS) has now fallen by the wayside. ::)
I still am believing that this year we will see a Camel or Fokker tripe. ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

** wrong** see below!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on March 28, 2015, 09:52:20 PM
Eek! false alarm!  I goofed about the Alby OAW.  I should get these
old eyes checked.  My apologies to all! :-[ ::)

Humble Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on March 29, 2015, 02:49:16 AM
As for a ship that I'm pretty certain is not represented by anyone, anywhere, in any scale, the ol' ground attack warhorse DH5 strapped with four 20# Coopers would be outstanding from WnW. A trim little bus, she was.                       -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: WarrenD on March 29, 2015, 02:52:22 AM
That really would put a lot of folks on their ear Doug, hehehehehe.

Warren
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: taurusmodels on March 30, 2015, 02:30:37 AM
I had a dream....

really - firstly Fokker DII (In blue paintings of Jacobs) and DIII . Next Halberstadt DII and DIII.

You will see within a half year :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on March 30, 2015, 02:59:57 AM
I had a dream....

really - firstly Fokker DII (In blue paintings of Jacobs) and DIII . Next Halberstadt DII and DIII.

You will see within a half year :)

I would be happy and sad all at once... (Fokker D.III)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Gisbod on March 30, 2015, 11:09:11 PM

I went to order an RE8 but hadn't realised they've gone out of production..  :P

Do we have any idea when the next release will be? I don't know whether to try and track down an RE8 or wait and see what's coming up if anything?

Guy

Ps Surprised the RE8's gone - I would have thought the complicated rigging would have put a lot of people off...

Pps I'd really like the late version of the Brisfit or DH9 - they've been in development for ages - do we think they're coming or will it be like the figures? They've been 'coming' for about 3years!!



Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on March 31, 2015, 12:59:15 AM
Interesting...

I just had a look over at Hannants. Previously they've priced the WNW kits the same in £ as it was in $ – $69 is £69.99 etc. Though the Felixstowe is £ 259, the AEG will set you back a whopping £ 279...??? Has the exchange rates plummeted even more recently, or is Hannants jacking up their prices?  ???

/Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OEFFAG 153 on March 31, 2015, 04:48:27 AM
The US$ is strengthening against all currencies and will likely do so for the next few months at least. I wonder if Wingnuts have overlooked that in the pricing of the AEG.

Yes, you may well be right there – I was thinking the same myself.

Though calculating the above mentioned price into SEK, I would almost pay twice as much if I bought the AEG from Hannants + shipping. Of course I may be slapped with a toll charge if I buy directly from WNW, but that would still be considerably cheaper.

Just trying to figure out how Hannants are calculating their prices – wondering why one would not buy directly instead? Of course I'm having the same problem trying to figure out how ebay prices works :o

/Mikael
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: AROTH on March 31, 2015, 11:55:43 AM
Maybe slightly OT, but have any of the US customers of the AEG kit experienced any delays in receiving it (above past delivery times)?

My order stated it was sent March 6, but the tracking nbr provided does not show up in the NZ postal tracking system yet.

Perhaps I am just starting to worry too early?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on March 31, 2015, 11:59:04 AM
Mine took a little longer than usual to make it to Wisconsin but it arrived no problem...along with my Pfalz D. XII.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 31, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
Postage times vary quite considerably, my orders from Wingnuts usually only take four days, but my last order took three weeks, go figure.

As far as buying Wingnut kits from shops, no way, I have purchased all of my Wingnut kits directly from them except for a few that I picked up at bargain prices on Evil Bay.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on March 31, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
Hi,

this is so variable and I'm also concerned that I have not received an order from WNW after it was said to have been shipped on 14th March (2 weeks!) - and I live only 30 miles (50 km or so) from them! I don't know if it is useless NZ Post or what. A previous order took a week after being 'shipped' yet the next arrived in just less than 24 hours. A mystery.

Cheers,

GrahamB

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 31, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
It sounds as if your NZ Post is on par with our Aussie Post. Sometimes Aussie post can be amazing and deliver items at a extremely fast rate, but in most cases they really live up to their nickname of snail mail. Like I said in my previous post, I live just across the pond from the Wingnuts warehouse, some items arrive really quickly, others take weeks. I think it is just the luck of the draw, which day your order was placed, which day it was processed, which day it was picked up by NZ post, which aeroplane they decide to throw it on, if it is a direct route or a round about way, how long it is held in customs etc etc etc.....but at the end of the day we all eventually receive our orders and we carry on building models.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on March 31, 2015, 01:28:08 PM
Maybe slightly OT, but have any of the US customers of the AEG kit experienced any delays in receiving it (above past delivery times)?

My order stated it was sent March 6, but the tracking nbr provided does not show up in the NZ postal tracking system yet.

Perhaps I am just starting to worry too early?

No, it's not too early to worry.  Let me tell you a tale.

I ordered a Gotha on February 28.  I got the email from WNW saying it too was shipped on March 6.  3 days later it showed up as Picked Up on the NZ Post tracking.
By the way, try entering your tracking number in the USPS.com site.  Mine showed up there at the same time it went live on the NZ Post site (March 9).
 
It then took only 2 days to make it to Los Angeles, clearing customs 3 days later and arriving in Cleveland OH on March 18, just 45 minutes away from me in Akron.  But guess what....I still haven't received it!  Yup, for some as-yet-unexplained reason, it did an about-face and was sent back to WNW.  It arrived in their warehouse last week (signed for by Dave) but I've not yet had any response from them as to why it was returned or when it would be re-shipped.  I finally emailed Richard this evening and he immediately responded saying he'd follow up with Dave on the matter.

I highly recommend you try USPS tracking first and if that doesn't provide any information, I'd contact Wingnuts. 

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on March 31, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
Eric,

I am not in the US, but almost exactly the same thing has happened to me here in Dubai.

First I new, Dave at WNW sent me an email to say that it was shipped the day after it was ordered, and then returned to them for some inexplicable reason.

Apparently it has been sent out again, so we will see how long it takes before it shows up here in land of sand.

A weird postal paradox or WPP!

Dave :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on March 31, 2015, 03:39:25 PM
Same here, although it was a Salmson and SE5a. My order Shipped on the 17th, arrived overseas on the 19th. Left the holding area on the 20th. Checking my tracking number on the 23rd showed delivery attempted. NO word after until the 29th when it suddenly showed an arrived at the regional Po on the 23rd, then the delivery attempted, and finally, ARRIVED in New Zealand on the 29th! I have sent an E Mail to WNW, NO response yet. Seems odd that so many sent recently have turned around?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Hannover on March 31, 2015, 05:23:40 PM
No, it's not too early to worry.  Let me tell you a tale.

I ordered a Gotha on February 28.  I got the email from WNW saying it too was shipped on March 6.  3 days later it showed up as Picked Up on the NZ Post tracking.
By the way, try entering your tracking number in the USPS.com site.  Mine showed up there at the same time it went live on the NZ Post site (March 9).
 
It then took only 2 days to make it to Los Angeles, clearing customs 3 days later and arriving in Cleveland OH on March 18, just 45 minutes away from me in Akron.  But guess what....I still haven't received it!  Yup, for some as-yet-unexplained reason, it did an about-face and was sent back to WNW.  It arrived in their warehouse last week (signed for by Dave) but I've not yet had any response from them as to why it was returned or when it would be re-shipped.  I finally emailed Richard this evening and he immediately responded saying he'd follow up with Dave on the matter.

I highly recommend you try USPS tracking first and if that doesn't provide any information, I'd contact Wingnuts. 

Eric

I had this with a couple of WNW orders about 18months ago. From what I can gather the front of the plastic sleeve that contains the piece of paper that has the address/customs info on it got ripped off and the piece of paper went walkabout. The postal authorities then had no idea of where to deliver the package so returned it to WNW.

On later orders I did notice that there was an additional stuck on address label obviously to provide a back up if the above happened again but I'm not sure I saw that on my last order.

Peter
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on March 31, 2015, 05:35:35 PM
My latest delivery took 5 weeks door to door. The shipping notice was sent almost immediately but the detailed tracking notes said collected from customer (WNW) 2 weeks after this date, so whether they're sending out the notices ahead of the goods actually going who knows.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on March 31, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
I don't think any of us really know the ins and outs of the Wingnuts order processing, this is my theory;

When an order is placed at Wingnuts it is processed reasonably quickly and a shipping notice sent out to the customer. The parcel is held in the Wingnuts warehouse ready to be picked up by NZ Post which is only once a week, I have estimated it is a Thursday, so if you place an order on Friday, you get shipping notice but your parcel will sit there until the following Thursday before being picked up. If your parcel happens to fall through the cracks it may not get picked up until another week has passed. Because of the free post offered by Wingnuts our parcels would be treated with the lowest possible priority, so they could sit at NZ Post for a week or two before they actually put it on an aeroplane, what happens to the parcel after that is in the lap of the gods, a parcel addressed to me in Australia once went to Austria, then back to me here in Australia, an honest mistake   ???

Which ever way we look at it I'm sure that all parties involved are doing their best to get the parcels to us in a reasonable time, what we call reasonable and what they call reasonable may be completely different but we do eventually receive our goods, even if it did do three laps of the globe before it reached your door  :) ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on March 31, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
Thankfully I have never had problems with WNW deliveries.  In the UK, I usually receive the kits 2-3 weeks after ordering.  These days though, the time to deliver is immaterial as the models will sit in the stash for a few months minimum even if they jump the waiting queue!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kai on March 31, 2015, 07:30:40 PM
I think Des has it more or less nailed - as the shipping cost is effectively included within the purchase price, WNW must have a sizeable contract with NZ Post and have negotiated a low cost due to volume.

However, the corollary of this is that speed is not of the essence!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on March 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
I can't say I have had any unreasonable delays with my shipments.
For me, it's about ten days, to the wilds of western Canada, which
I don't have any trouble with. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :(
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on March 31, 2015, 08:23:20 PM
It might be costing them business though.

In a fit of excitement I ordered a Felixstowe before Christmas and I got a shipment note back detailing the F2a, (with a W.12 and a D.VIIF thrown in for good measure - and to save on UK Customs charge.)

However the ref did not appear on the UK Parcel Farce website so I checked NZ Post - where it did not appear either. I asked WNW for clarification and, after Christmas, they tried to track it for me but couldn't. After several more weeks of nada I eventually told them I'd have to get Paypal to cancel the transaction. Dave emailed me back right away to say that the package had just been returned to them from NZ Post and he'd process a refund right away.

I must say that after the thrill of a huge boat prompted me to place the order, common sense had kicked in over Christmas and I realised I'd probably never build the thing, certainly not with it's wings on anyway. I resolved to re-order the W.12 and D.VIIF once the AEG was realised, anticipating a 169USD price tag. Of course when it appeared with a ludicrous price it just pi**ed me off so much that I didn't get one.
I don't really need another D.VII, with two in the stash, so I'll probably wait for the next single-seater and add a W.12 to that order.
Net result: lost order to WNW worth almost 450USD.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on April 01, 2015, 03:45:19 AM
No, it's not too early to worry.  Let me tell you a tale.

I ordered a Gotha on February 28.  I got the email from WNW saying it too was shipped on March 6.  3 days later it showed up as Picked Up on the NZ Post tracking.
By the way, try entering your tracking number in the USPS.com site.  Mine showed up there at the same time it went live on the NZ Post site (March 9).
 
It then took only 2 days to make it to Los Angeles, clearing customs 3 days later and arriving in Cleveland OH on March 18, just 45 minutes away from me in Akron.  But guess what....I still haven't received it!  Yup, for some as-yet-unexplained reason, it did an about-face and was sent back to WNW.  It arrived in their warehouse last week (signed for by Dave) but I've not yet had any response from them as to why it was returned or when it would be re-shipped.  I finally emailed Richard this evening and he immediately responded saying he'd follow up with Dave on the matter.

I highly recommend you try USPS tracking first and if that doesn't provide any information, I'd contact Wingnuts. 

Eric

I had this with a couple of WNW orders about 18months ago. From what I can gather the front of the plastic sleeve that contains the piece of paper that has the address/customs info on it got ripped off and the piece of paper went walkabout. The postal authorities then had no idea of where to deliver the package so returned it to WNW.

On later orders I did notice that there was an additional stuck on address label obviously to provide a back up if the above happened again but I'm not sure I saw that on my last order.

Peter
It happened to me in january with a parcel containing a d vii they had gone sold out in the meanwhile, but Dave fixed it and sent the packet back to me when it was back in NZ
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on April 01, 2015, 04:19:09 AM
Wingnut Wings makes the most accurate, well-engineered, easy to build detailed WWI scale models you can buy. I have been building WWI plastic scale models off and on for about sixty years and I stand by that. To do that costs money to research, design, make and test, produce the artwork and the instruction and reference booklet for each. Additionally, Wingnut Wings offers free (which is arguably highly reduced) shipping for their customers. Purchasing these kits is obviously a personal decision based on perceived value. To argue that they are priced too high is also a personal opinion, not shared by a very large number of modelers and to blame Wingnut Wings for that is to insist that they share your personal values.

It would also appear that with the thousands of kits shipped around the planet, they are doing a fantastic job of it especailly since once the kit leaves their warehouse, they are no long in control of its destiny.

It appears to me that because some think that the later Wingnut Wings kits are priced too high and that some have experienced shipping or postal issues for kits that have to travel thousands of miles across various bureaucratic processes, Wingnut Wings is now a favroite target for complaint.

I have no complaints except that I can't buy all of the kits I would like to have, but that's not Wingnut Wings's fault.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on April 01, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
I have never ha any issues, just one and it was corrected immediately.  Most of the time I have the kit 10 days or left after I place the order.  I'm usually shocked how fast they come.  I can't say enough nice things about their customer service, and their kits.  Long live WNW  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on April 01, 2015, 06:38:02 AM
My comment was not a complaint in any way.
I was stating that the people at Wingnut Wings are excellent also in fixing the occasional mess...
please remember that most of us live at the antipodes and that also the postal service is to be praised...
out of some 30 packages I received at least 20 in two weeks and the others in three or four.
Apart from the service, the quality of WNW is above anything that has been produced so far.

I have also to tell something about the excellent AEG: some of us forgot that its release was delayed for quality issues: it maybe that the price cap is due to some sprues that had to be re-engineered; I am not sure that in this case the casters bear all the costs.
WNW delivered an excellent product, anyway.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: the great waldo on April 01, 2015, 07:16:37 AM
Hi Des

I once had a package of guitar making wood that I needed urgently from the USA sent priority airmail (It makes your eye's water the shipping price they charged me) It arrived  2 months later with lots of stuff from Australian tourist board and customs about whats allowed to be sent to Australia, Yes you guessed it I live in Austria (no kangaroos) Still, life goes on.
Cheers

Andrew
I don't think any of us really know the ins and outs of the Wingnuts order processing, this is my theory;

When an order is placed at Wingnuts it is processed reasonably quickly and a shipping notice sent out to the customer. The parcel is held in the Wingnuts warehouse ready to be picked up by NZ Post which is only once a week, I have estimated it is a Thursday, so if you place an order on Friday, you get shipping notice but your parcel will sit there until the following Thursday before being picked up. If your parcel happens to fall through the cracks it may not get picked up until another week has passed. Because of the free post offered by Wingnuts our parcels would be treated with the lowest possible priority, so they could sit at NZ Post for a week or two before they actually put it on an aeroplane, what happens to the parcel after that is in the lap of the gods, a parcel addressed to me in Australia once went to Austria, then back to me here in Australia, an honest mistake   ???

Which ever way we look at it I'm sure that all parties involved are doing their best to get the parcels to us in a reasonable time, what we call reasonable and what they call reasonable may be completely different but we do eventually receive our goods, even if it did do three laps of the globe before it reached your door  :) ;) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on April 01, 2015, 12:17:35 PM
I think it is generally accepted that Wingnut's customer service is second to none and the kit quality is great, so I'm unsure why it is perceived as 'blaming' or 'criticising' when people make observations or recount their own experiences and perceptions. No-one is forcing their values on anyone by having an opinion.

Of course it is criticism to say that "Of course when it appeared with a ludicrous price it just pi**ed me off so much that I didn't get one." And, such criticism calls for a rebuttal offering a different opinion. If one doesn't care to buy something because of a disagreement on price it really doesn't contribute much to the conversation to use terms like those.

I also do not want to precipitate an argument over this, so I apologize for hijacking the thread and will comment no further on this topic.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on April 01, 2015, 12:33:19 PM
Okay, enough has been said, lets get this topic back on track, we are talking about Wingnuts speculation, what kits do you speculate will be released this year from Wingnuts.

To be quite honest I believe that we will see a Sopwith Camel and a BE.2, the BE.2 is on the top of my list. Anything else will be a real bonus and I'm sure will be eagerly snapped up by modelers.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on April 01, 2015, 01:21:14 PM
Okay, enough has been said, lets get this topic back on track, we are talking about Wingnuts speculation, what kits do you speculate will be released this year from Wingnuts.

To be quite honest I believe that we will see a Sopwith Camel and a BE.2, the BE.2 is on the top of my list. Anything else will be a real bonus and I'm sure will be eagerly snapped up by modelers.

Des.

Yes, I feel the same, the BE.2 is at the top of my list too.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 01, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
I'd like to see a few very early war kites....And a Sopwith Tabloid/Baby. Some USNS types would be cool.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on April 01, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
I would love to see an Albatros C111 or a Taube  :P
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on April 01, 2015, 03:36:59 PM
How about a 1:32 scale Taube a Voisin III and a Caudron G3, do you think there would be a market for these type of aeroplanes?

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2015, 03:58:08 PM
How about a 1:32 scale Taube a Voisin III and a Caudron G3, do you think there would be a market for these type of aeroplanes?

Des.

Des,
It is proven that there is a market for anything WNW brings out  :o I still think The Camel, a Fokker EV, and Strutter are likely.
RAGIII
SOMETIME  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on April 01, 2015, 04:16:09 PM
How about a Fok.DR.1?         ;D

If I keep banging on about it The Lord of the Wingnuts might just hear my cry! Then again.....

Von TripeofDesire   :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Tony Haycock on April 01, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
How about a 1:32 scale Taube a Voisin III and a Caudron G3, do you think there would be a market for these type of aeroplanes?

Des.

One would have to assume the market for these types would be as big as or bigger than that for a Felixtowe. Luckily for us, it seems the prospective market size for any given model doesn't apper to be part of the WNW decision-making process. So we can safely say that ANYTHING is possible... and trying to second-guess them is futile.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on April 01, 2015, 07:00:34 PM
I've never been a Camel maniac, but now I'm really looking foreward to it, as its not one of those recent hugeies, not even a twinseater, and thus might come at an affordeable price. Furthermore it might come in more than only one packaging - like the Fokker D.VII. - If it comes at all!
Using this thread as a wishing-well: A Viper-powered version of the SE.5a I would buy (USAS guise?!), as well as a pair of DH.4 (Rolls Royce and Liberty) and, last not least, Breguet XIV (french and USAS - come on, Wingnut Wings, you know how to do it, proved it with your Salmson!).
Thanx for listening.
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on April 01, 2015, 10:19:26 PM
Halberstadt CL II, .......that's it!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Having thought deeply I came to the conclusion I am for a Dreidecker, too!
But not that tiny, world-wide-known, so boring Fokker Dr.I. Having Felixstowe F.2a, why not follow this line and bring Felixstowe Fury (Porte Super-Baby)?  8)
1.17m span, 0.60m length, that would be a model!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felixstowe_Fury
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 01, 2015, 10:43:47 PM
No no no... We need this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Zeppelin_Staaken_Typ_R_VI_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2015, 10:59:26 PM
Pity, it is not a Dreidecker, Bo  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on April 01, 2015, 11:44:09 PM
Halberstadt CL II, .......that's it!

 Amen brother
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on April 01, 2015, 11:49:59 PM
No no no... We need this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Zeppelin_Staaken_Typ_R_VI_01.jpg)

I agree. This would be awesome! Also, what Des posted would be sweet as well, a Taube,  Voisin III, and a Caudron G3
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on April 02, 2015, 02:45:31 AM
No no no... We need this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Zeppelin_Staaken_Typ_R_VI_01.jpg)

Nah, what we really need is one of these beauties, complements of the Habsburg Empire:

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on April 02, 2015, 04:16:01 AM
No no no... We need this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Zeppelin_Staaken_Typ_R_VI_01.jpg)


It will never happen, Bo!
 :o

VB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on April 02, 2015, 04:27:12 AM
Forget it, BwT (BobwithTractor) - Bo is just kidding...........................He would get the thing purely NEVER in his FIAT 500.  :P
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on April 02, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
A Staaken would be nice, of course. But that would cost around 1000 US $. I think you could buy a lot of Fiat's for that.









(And before you start shooting me: I drive a FIAT myself. Not a 500, but still a FIAT. I am allowed to make that kind of jokes, you see)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on April 02, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
PJ likes big productions,so a HP 0/400 next is my guess since WNW is on a big plane roll.Who knows ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on April 02, 2015, 07:57:39 PM
How about the Caproni Ca.3, this would make a perfect subject for Wingnuts to produce as a kit.

Des.

Click picture for a larger image

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cAyDpZ8FOxI/VR0Rjwv8fMI/AAAAAAAAQqc/aKjj-NbX33M/s1043/caproni%2520ca.3.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on April 02, 2015, 09:21:00 PM
THIS thing would be welcome, Des.  :D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: iwik on April 02, 2015, 09:22:14 PM
Hi y'all!
BTW, do we get to win something if we are right? Like in horse races. Give the names of the winners in the right order, with a choice of 3, 5 or more??? ;D

I'd say Hanriot HD1.

Let the best man win!

Ciao
Iwik
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on April 02, 2015, 10:01:20 PM
Ca3 would be brilliant - very interesting design and though it would be big in 1/32 I dont think it would be unmanageable at all (wingspan I think about the same as the Gotha)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on April 02, 2015, 10:59:09 PM
How about the Caproni Ca.3, this would make a perfect subject for Wingnuts to produce as a kit.

Des.

Click picture for a larger image

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cAyDpZ8FOxI/VR0Rjwv8fMI/AAAAAAAAQqc/aKjj-NbX33M/s1043/caproni%2520ca.3.jpg)
And there is plenty of Documentation about Ca 3 and two survivors...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on April 02, 2015, 11:26:08 PM
I'll take the Staaken and the Caproni right now! 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: stefanbuss on April 02, 2015, 11:35:52 PM
The Staaken would not only come with a nice price tag, but with 1,32 meters of wingspan (!) on top...

The first problem would be how to get it past the door into the mancave. No, sorry, the first would be getting it inside the FIAT.

S.
 8)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 03, 2015, 12:33:10 AM
It's not a problem, the roof goes down...
Title: Here are the Masters for the Staaken ;-)
Post by: Galloway on April 03, 2015, 01:35:54 AM
Actually a friend's scratch build in 1/32nd scale he gave up on and said here you take these.... Honestly I don't know what to do with them as I will never finish this beast.......... Maybe Des would like to take a shot at finishing her????

 Ken

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk.jpg.html)

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk1.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk1.jpg.html)

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk2.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk2.jpg.html)

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk3.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk3.jpg.html)

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk4.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk4.jpg.html)

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/KJGHenderson/Stakk5.jpg) (http://s477.photobucket.com/user/KJGHenderson/media/Stakk5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on April 03, 2015, 04:48:00 AM
Send them here, I'll give it a shot, what the heck!   You anywhere near Chicago?  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Galloway on April 03, 2015, 07:02:02 AM
AZ here ......... :-)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on April 03, 2015, 07:20:15 AM
Just to give some idea of wingspans for these 'large' models, some already produced and some are possibilities (hopefuls)

AEG G.IV            57cm
Felixstowe          91cm
Gotha                73cm
Caproni Ca.3      72cm
HP. 0/400          93cm
Staaken           132cm

I would need to build a whole new room just to display all of these if they were made into models  ???

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 03, 2015, 08:49:24 AM
Hmmmmm .... Something right out of left field, but how about the Sablatnig SF3? After all there is already this wonderful Steve Anderson painting (WNW box artist), which graces the cover of the latest Jack Herris release....

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/b83a968c50ffa334f5468ddd4431dfbc_zpsh62wbzu8.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on April 03, 2015, 10:48:59 AM
And another book to order....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on April 03, 2015, 11:46:50 AM
Hmmmmm .... Something right out of left field, but how about the Sablatnig SF3? After all there is already this wonderful Steve Anderson painting (WNW box artist), which graces the cover of the latest Jack Herris release....

(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/b83a968c50ffa334f5468ddd4431dfbc_zpsh62wbzu8.jpg)



On one of these lists I actually mentioned a Sablatnig C.1, not the sea plane, but still cool.  It's just odd enough for WNW to do.......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 04, 2015, 03:01:13 PM
sablatnig sf-4 triplane is cool too if were talking dreidecker.
i still want my berg d.1 series 38,138 and 338 that would be sweet.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: OldTroll on April 05, 2015, 05:15:16 PM
Hansa-Brandenburg D.I (virtually no rigging - yay!)
Aviatik-Berg D.I (love the hex camo)
Phonix D.II

Then I can die a happy man!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Gisbod on April 05, 2015, 06:15:01 PM
At the risk of being boring...

I would love a Camel. Huge amount of marking options (albeit all PC10!) and I reckon there must be a HP 0/100/400 in the mix with the current crop of 'big' aircraft?

Guy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: gcn on April 06, 2015, 12:04:07 AM
I want the biggest aircraft possible, I then want to bitch about the price of it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on April 06, 2015, 12:19:39 AM
"I would love a Camel."
     My thoughts as well, I know I could make it happen if I built the Hobby Craft Kits I have in the stash.................. taking bets......... twice as fast if I completed both....... ::) ::) :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kai on April 06, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
I want the biggest aircraft possible, I then want to bitch about the price of it.

Ha!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on April 06, 2015, 02:23:33 AM
Here's an interesting subject that also would be great for our current Group Build, the Blackburn TB, twin fuselage.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img673/1080/3UZ3ek.jpg)   (http://imageshack.com/a/img661/7283/1pyWUp.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on April 06, 2015, 02:59:07 AM
I still think a Fokker DVIII would still be a good kit to get people into building First World War Aircraft. I would like to get the mythical Camel and a Dolphin as well. An Armstrong Whitworth F.K.8 would be interesting since learning a Canadian earned a Victoria Cross while flying one.

Seeing as how WNW have re-released a Hansa-Brandenburg W.29 as part of the duellists, I wonder if this will be the only way we will be able to get these kits from them, or if they will re-release it by itself.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on April 06, 2015, 03:13:02 AM
I think it's possible that after the run of the "biggies", WnW may return
to some single seaters, for example...are you listening, Sir Peter?, the
Camel, DR.1, D.VIII, Hanriot, for starters. ;) :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on April 06, 2015, 03:50:21 AM
"I would love a Camel."
     My thoughts as well, I know I could make it happen if I built the Hobby Craft Kits I have in the stash.................. taking bets......... twice as fast if I completed both....... ::) ::) :o
Cheers,
Lance
Lance...me too...I've hoarded four of the HC/Academy Camel kits and they remain untouched since it's been made known a WnW Camel is inevitable. I agree with Des, it's this year at some point.                 -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: memaerobilia on April 06, 2015, 05:14:56 AM
Would love to see a Short Bros 184 (over 900 of them built!), or the Short 320 torpedo plane, bomber. Great WWI seaplanes. No Short aircraft in the WNW group as yet.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on April 06, 2015, 07:49:50 PM
I'll take anything that comes (within price reason) and I'm anticipating some single seat types. What I would really like to see is a shift towards an early war focus.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Gisbod on April 06, 2015, 08:11:22 PM
Do we know historically when they're likely to release another kit?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kai on April 06, 2015, 08:44:13 PM
Not really.

They could drop a couple of kits tomorrow,  they could release nothing for months.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on April 06, 2015, 09:22:19 PM
Wingnuts have no rhyme nor reason when releasing new kits, as we know the majority of their new releases are just before Christmas but they do usually have a sprinkling of new releases throughout the year, when that will be is anyone's guess.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ondra on April 06, 2015, 11:41:51 PM
The thing I love the most about WNW is their unpredictability. So in this point I am 100 % with Des - noone knows and that's the best about it. ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 07, 2015, 12:35:35 AM
I'd like to see earlier war stuff, and something single-seat British with floats. By July/August would be great.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eindecker on April 07, 2015, 03:49:19 AM
Wingnut Wings releases kits when they decide they are ready.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 07, 2015, 04:26:11 AM
Yes, I noticed that their release schedule doesn't match mine. My wallet usually matches their release schedule though....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: iwik on April 07, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
Just tell us when your wallet is ready then, and we'll know something is liekly to come out!  ;)

Ciao
IWik
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 09, 2015, 12:01:46 AM
Truth be told, I was ready to buy the AEG, but was a little off-put by the price. I've been looking at the red tailed Roland though.
Kai, you meant Elvis when you said "The King?"
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on April 09, 2015, 03:24:11 AM
I was thinking George III.....

Was he the crazy one?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on April 09, 2015, 04:27:32 AM
George III was my dad! I guess that explains a lot. :o

George IV
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 09, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
Not a WNW, but I did open my wallet for a Horten -229 at Winterfest back in January. A very nice kit that will allow me to use woodgrain decals.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on April 09, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
I do like the unpredictability of WNW releases, both the time and the subjects, too. And I buy what they release IF the subject appeals to me. Right now, on one hand I would like to see what is next and see it soon. But then, I am well into the Felixstowe build, a few good months of modelling still ahead, and W.12 waiting patiently for its turn. So I will gladly see a break in their release plan - you know I hate large kit stashes ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kai on April 09, 2015, 09:40:39 PM
Not a WNW, but I did open my wallet for a Horten -229 at Winterfest back in January. A very nice kit that will allow me to use woodgrain decals.

Did you buy the ZM wood decal's?

The rigging sure looks easy.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on April 10, 2015, 01:32:15 AM
Kai, no, I have some old Spada decals, and some other odd stuff in the stash. I'm finishing a 1/32 Spitty, and then maybe on to a W-12, and keep on my DVII.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: JastaB on April 16, 2015, 11:38:02 PM
I was thinking that a Armstrong Whitworth FK8 "Big Ack" would be cool.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on April 20, 2015, 03:22:45 AM
Considering the Big Ack has been overlooked in 1/48 and I did the 1/72 Roseplane vac years ago, I would welcome a 1/32 great Big Ack!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on June 12, 2015, 02:51:15 AM
WNW website now shows CAD images of the F.1 Camel, "now in development." Not new news, but makes me wonder if an F.2 naval camel is coming with it? My Datafile shows some pretty cool paint schemes for the F.2 Camel.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on June 13, 2015, 02:07:11 PM
I'm afraid that the Sopwith Camel does not interest me but bring on a BE.2, now that would be an awesome kit  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on June 15, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
The BE.2 is SURELY a no-brainer given how many TVAL have built and restored. I want two!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 15, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
The BE.2 is SURELY a no-brainer given how many TVAL have built and restored. I want two!

Yes, I'll take a BE2c and a BE2e, if they do both.

But I'll admit, I'll take a Camel too.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on June 15, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
I remember John Adams of Aeroclub telling me that his BE2 models were a no-brainer decision for him to kit in 1/48 as he had already created the moulds for his RE8 and FE2b models. Evidently the wings of the BE2c were used again on the FE2b and the wings of the BE2e were used again on the RE8.
Seems that WNW must be part way there already?
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on June 16, 2015, 12:15:23 AM
How about a BE 12?            -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on June 16, 2015, 02:18:09 AM
The BE series is the only type of which I would buy multiples in 1/32 scale.  So, I'll take a BE2, a BE2c, a BE2e and a BE12.  I'll make room somehow.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 16, 2015, 03:51:24 AM
The BE series is the only type of which I would buy multiples in 1/32 scale.  So, I'll take a BE2, a BE2c, a BE2e and a BE12.  I'll make room somehow.
Cheers,
Bud

Adding a room to house them will cut into your model time (LOL)... you are truly committed to the dark side now

your Amigo
Ed
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on June 17, 2015, 05:48:02 AM
I was thinking, with the RNAS Pup sold out, it would be cool to see it in a Duelist boxing with the Gotha. After all, RNAS Pups did come up in the first few Gotha raids on England. I doubt Wingnut would do this Duelist boxing, but it would be sweet. What do y'all think?   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on June 17, 2015, 06:30:30 AM
Camel or BE2, yes that would be fine...................but better a Fokker F.1/Dr.1



But,.............................. I hope Wingnut Wings play's something a little bit more in the field of twin engine planes.
A Gotha WD 14 would be cool ............ incl. torpedo  8)

I must confess, I love seaplanes  ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on June 17, 2015, 09:11:37 AM
I was thinking, with the RNAS Pup sold out, it would be cool to see it in a Duelist boxing with the Gotha. After all, RNAS Pups did come up in the first few Gotha raids on England. I doubt Wingnut would do this Duelist boxing, but it would be sweet. What do y'all think?

I like it.  The Gotha is about due to go OOP.  Re-issue it with a Pup or even an Se.5 in night livery.  Give the  Gotha some hex decals, too.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on June 17, 2015, 11:01:53 AM
JTB McCudden flew a Pup against Gothas that he said he had painted light blue on the undersides with a lewis mounted on the top wing IIRC? That would certainly be cool  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on June 17, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
The BE.2 is SURELY a no-brainer given how many TVAL have built and restored. I want two!

Yes, I'll take a BE2c and a BE2e, if they do both.

George
Same here, well an E or an F. For BE.12 fans WNW, again, have a full-scale reference not far up the road:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8582/16191879600_8b9cfac2dc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qEPBFW)Under-construction TVAL B.E.12 Replica (https://flic.kr/p/qEPBFW) by Errol Cavit (https://www.flickr.com/photos/errolgc/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pietro on June 17, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
I can tell you all, with complete assurance, the next WNW release will be the Curtiss JN-4 Canuck. Why? Because I've just started scratch-building one! I hope to have it ready for the show in McMinnville, Oregon this September.
 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on June 18, 2015, 12:24:52 AM
What show, pietro? I'm in Oregon too...Portland...show in McMinnville? So Evergreen then, is it?          -M
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: 15badcats on June 18, 2015, 08:40:22 AM
I go to Evergreen in Mcminnville every year It's a great show and a great group that puts on the show I'll look for the Canuk
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on June 18, 2015, 09:06:17 AM
I can tell you all, with complete assurance, the next WNW release will be the Curtiss JN-4 Canuck. Why? Because I've just started scratch-building one! I hope to have it ready for the show in McMinnville, Oregon this September.
Well thank you very much, a Jenny (line?) is on my WNW wishlist!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on June 18, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
My vote for a summer's In-Between-Release: Morane-Saulnier BB (they have one dramatically displayed at Omaka's).
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 18, 2015, 04:46:45 PM
Hot off the press!
 ;D ;D

(http://bobsbuckles.co.uk/ww1forumpics/piggy.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on June 18, 2015, 06:22:50 PM
Dig that pig!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on June 19, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
The LSP GB prize appears that it will be a new WNW release as did their DFW a year ago.  Could it be the beginning of the killer 'BE's'?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on June 19, 2015, 07:15:33 AM
Taube in 1/32 scale and of WnW quality. Man, of man....now that would be something!

I'm with you, Justin.

Yes, I agree but hopefully not before I build 3 or four of their imminent Camels! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 19, 2015, 07:55:18 AM
taube would be nice but which type? every manufacturer made taubes and they varied quite a bit, i have even seen some which had more of a traditional tail and ailerons instead of being a warper. i like either the a-h taube  with its exagerated upper cowl hump and flat top rear fuse with the red/white striped tail or the jeannin type like in the german technical museum.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on June 19, 2015, 09:36:32 AM
Sir Peter has a (replica) Etrich Taube, so maybe one of them?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on June 19, 2015, 11:50:09 AM
I guess I am kind of odd in that I appreciate the Beauty of the Taube, and the gorgeous models like Des' scratch build, but it just doesn't hit ME as a kit I really want. As I say often, Not my cup of tea, ( In my case not My Black and Tan" )  ::) I am in for Camels and we know they will arrive someday. So my speculation still goes back to finishing the Sopwith Family and Certain German fighters like the Fokker EV,and DR1. Still think a combo likely using the Camel and Something like the Early DVII, or the Much wanted DR1.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: guitarlute101 on June 19, 2015, 01:20:27 PM


My kingdom for a Halberstadt!

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on June 19, 2015, 01:33:19 PM


My kingdom for a Halberstadt!

yes!

D.I or CL.II or anything.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 19, 2015, 04:30:36 PM
Yes a Camel and a Halberstadt would do nicely in future, but what I'd like to see now is a shift in focus towards the very earliest war years. What about the aircraft that helped precipitate the Batlle of the Marne in 1914 (and thus the ultimate failure of the Schlieffen Plan)? Or those that enabled the crushing victory at Tannenburg? Or, to move on in years, what about some of the French aircraft in the skies above the horrors of Verdun?

So many wishes, I know, and I recognise that my tiring of lozenge is almost certainly a tiny minority view, but if we are ever to achieve a truly representative collection......

Oh well. Time for my tin hat and armoured suit.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on June 19, 2015, 05:35:38 PM
I'm with you Nigel.
As someone once said, why do the bad guys always have the best uniforms?
I don't want to glorify the fellows who kept marching into other people's countries.
Here's to the men in the white hats, the good guys dressed in unostentatious PC 10 who tried, and finally did, push Kaiser Bill's armies back into their own country!
Dolphin please, then some BE 2s, FK8, Cuckoo, Buzzard, 184, Salamander. Maybe a few lozenges as targets for the good guys.
(Running away fast and hiding :D)
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on June 19, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
I hope your words will not lead to a disaster, here at our forum, comparable to the one evoked by Sarajewo assassination, Sandy.
But I am totally with you! WNW produce great models but the Entante-Central balance is dramatically uneven in their offer.
Generally, I must say it aloud, the awe for WW1 black-cross hereos and their machines, observed in the web sites devoted to the subject (generally, not only here) is hard to understand for me. But then, I come from that country, which in the ages past suffered so much from our neighbours, all of them, and my view may not be fully impartial...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 19, 2015, 10:33:19 PM
i guess being an american who wasnt hardly even involved in the great war and even in ww2 we came late to the party and help push the huns back. but truthfully we were never really done the horrors that germany did to europe. that said to me its just the fact that i like the sleeker lines of the black cross stuff. to me many brit planes look awkward ,gangly and/or just plain ugly and the fact that they are all basically the same color only accentuates this. not only do albatrii,fokkers and pfalzs look more pleasing to the eye(to me) but they are beautifully and creatively decorated as per each aces imagination allowed. i can only distinguish a few allied markings as in general there is not much appeal to my interest. perhaps its the exotic nature?sorry just my take.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on June 19, 2015, 10:46:33 PM
To add my two pennies, like Scott, I think we across the pond
have the luxury of looking from the sidelines so to speak, and
appreciate the design of the Central Powers aeroplanes without
the view being clouded by real-life horrors on our doorstep.
  Part deux, Nigel, you are so right!  We need more French
aeroplanes from WnW.  I'm still waiting patiently for a Hanriot Hd1.  :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on June 19, 2015, 11:22:12 PM
I too, being an American and Jewish, appreciate German aircraft from both World Wars. I also think that British aircraft from World War I are pretty ugly. Nothing like the sleek, beautiful German aircraft from World War I. They are all the same color, maybe a unit marking or two, and that's it. German aircraft on the other hand, were colorful and the pilots could put whatever markings they wanted on their aircraft, aside from the national insignia's and such. That being said, I do like the Fe2.b and the Dh.2 a lot. Cool looking aircraft. I also like a lot of French aircraft as well. I would love to see Wingnut do some French aircraft and Austro-Hungarian aircraft as well. I may be in the minority here, but I'm glad they haven't done a Camel yet, or Dr.I, the World War I equivalent of a Bf-109, Spitfire, or P-51 that have been done to death. I really like the fact that they have done some of the lesser known types. Just my two cents, whatever it's worth.

James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 20, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
I agree that the German planes are definitely sleeker and cooler, like sports cars. But there is something that has really grown on me with the British planes that I didn't really like at first. I like the almost slapped together, ungainly look of the Harry Tates, Brisfits, fE2b, BEs, etc. They have a home made charm like an old soap box derby car, or the rambling, complicated look of an old sailing ship with wood, rope, metal, and canvas.

Just my two cents...

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dwaynewilly on June 20, 2015, 03:33:52 AM
A WNW SPAD VII or SPAD XIII, Nieuport 11 bebe and a Nieuport 17 and a Breuget XIV would be AWESOME!  Halberstadt Cl.II, Cl.IV and D.I-D.III and how about a Dolphin please?!!!  Hanriot, Aviatik D.I, Hansa-Brandenburg D.I, Phonix D.III or maybe something really cool like a Friedrichshafen G.III and a Handley-Page 0/400!

I think I need to sit down now.

Dwayne
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on June 20, 2015, 03:35:25 AM
A WNW SPAD VII or SPAD XIII, Nieuport 11 bebe and a Nieuport 17 would be AWESOME!  Halberstadt Cl.II, Cl.IV and D.I-D.III and how about a Dolphin please?!!!  Hanriot, Aviatik D.I, Hansa-Brandenburg D.I, Phonix D.III or maybe something really cool like a Friedrichshafen G.III and a Handley-Page 0/400!

I think I need to sit down now.

Dwayne

A Friedrichshafen G.III would be a dream come true.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pepperman42 on June 20, 2015, 06:21:24 AM
French types would be nice yes

Steve
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 20, 2015, 08:42:15 AM
Nieuport 11 bebe and a Nieuport 17 get my vote.  ;)

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on June 20, 2015, 11:57:36 AM
If I start my Hobbycraft 17 I'm sure I could help you with your wish, Bob! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 20, 2015, 12:49:11 PM
George IV, when discussing ungainly looking British planes do not forget to include the Dh. 9.

Actually, the DH.9 and the DH.9a Ninak are a few that I still haven't warmed up to. To me it looks like the nose of the fuse is too long and boxy.

Like you, Michael, it comes down to subjective aesthetic taste. I don't try to reason it out or justify it, I just go with my gut. But my gut does change and what I find funky and ugly one day will suddenly become appealing. And like Bo, I try not to get too caught up with their intended purpose otherwise I would only model civil aircraft, which I don't find nearly as interesting to look at. In my youth while at art school, I was such a hippie pacifist that I turned down an invite to see the Blue Angles fly because I couldn't get past why they existed! Don't worry, my hippie days are over and I've since seen them many times. :o 8)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 21, 2015, 12:28:53 AM
i like the debates here. i must say i am glad to see any ww1 aircraft kit come to market. but i am actually kinda shocked when i here requests for wnw to remake other 1/32 kits that are not bad at all or even nice in some cases. we already have nice nieport 11 and 16, we have an acceptable nieuport 17. we have a nice spad vii in 1/32 and a decent spad xiii. we have a nice fokker dr.1 in 1/32. ok i get that the hobbycraft camels were not super great, but as many a modeller has proven they make up to be very nice models. is it that we are so spoiled by wnw that we want shake and bakes of every very commonly produced ww1 flyer. i cant for the life of me get it. please dont crucify me,this is a forum to voice our opinions, this is my opinion and is a response to posts i have read for the last few years. i dont get it. its like someone else said above this is the same as acadehasetamigawa all putting out p-51,spitfire,me-109 kits left and right. i know theres some guys like me. guys that want something new,different. would i eventually like wnw to make a kit of every single aircraft?sure but i would like to see some kits of craft that have NO other kit in 1/32. to me this is the only thing that makes a lick of sense. sorry for the rant. i just dont get it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on June 21, 2015, 02:33:59 AM
I agree with you Albie. We do have some nice kits of Neiuports, and the Roden Dr-I is a pretty nice kit; I've read that the SSW, and Nie. 28 are pretty good as well. Not WNW, but pretty good stand alone kits. WNW is doing the Camel, and I'd figure them for an F.1 and F.2. After that, I'd like to see a Junkers D1, Sopwith Tabloid/Baby, and I think there are some other single engine fighter types out there. If we look at all the planes currently offered, it's quite a line up- some better than others, but that's modeling.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 21, 2015, 03:13:18 AM
As I hinted at earlier, what I'm looking to achieve  in my collection - and obviously this rests as no more than an individual's preference - is a representative selection of aircraft from the Great War, balanced across the nations and across the years. In a sense the kit manufacturer is almost an irrelevance. Almost, but not quite since in the scale many have moved towards, 1/32, we have kits of superlative quality from WNW. Insofar as there is any logic in my argument, that would point to hoping that our friends in NZ shifting the focus towards the earlier war years and a broader range of nations for future releases.

I write this while relaxing in the fantastic, sun-drenched villa near Carcassonne we have just arrived at for a week-long holiday with the family.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on June 26, 2015, 03:52:13 AM
I'd like to see WNW do a Wright Flyer.
...and an early Bleriot.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Eric Armstrong on June 26, 2015, 11:29:32 AM
Re: Wright Flyer: That's actually a good point, Mike.....I mean, in a sense, this is the most famous single aircraft of all time. And the Bleriot is close behind.


This is all wrong.  Everyone knows that the most  famous single aircraft of all time is Snoopy's doghouse ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on June 27, 2015, 06:06:30 AM
Hey Nigel, while in Carcassonne, you must go to Limoux and have a bottle of the Cremant in the glorious old square. Fabulous Piano museum there too! Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 28, 2015, 01:38:18 AM
Hey Nigel, while in Carcassonne, you must go to Limoux and have a bottle of the Cremant in the glorious old square. Fabulous Piano museum there too! Sandy

Hi Sandy

We did indeed, but sadly did not get to the piano museum. Back home now to find that the ever reliable Airbrush Company has sent me a new airbrush hose. I was rather hoping that WNW might have surprised us all with the release of a BE2 of some sort or another.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on June 30, 2015, 04:24:43 AM
Re: Wright Flyer: That's actually a good point, Mike.....I mean, in a sense, this is the most famous single aircraft of all time. And the Bleriot is close behind.

Albie, you make a good point, man. But, I think there's a lot of us new, or returning to the hobby, who only came back to it because of WnW and the fact that there is the option of "shake and bake" and, boom, you have a really fine build, or do what Bertl, Bop and George are doing. I'm not saying the other kits you mentioned aren't that way but, please realize, like a bunch of the gang, I have no experience with those kits...but would like to get information on them.

I look at what Iwik is going through with his great build of the Roden SSW kit; having to fill in exaggerated panel lines and put pegs in the end of struts, and I shudder remembering days of long ago trying to get simple fuselage halves to meet without a visible line. I spent decades doing that sort of thing; sanding off, filling in and re-scribing panel lines, cobbling together pieces to make an engine a bit more realistic, sanding off grapefruit sized "rivets". My time is short and I'd much rather spend it building a really well engineered kit such as those from Wingnuts. If there's extra time, I'd prefer to spend it on the finish or adding a few details.

So, am I spoiled by WnW? Absolutely, guilty as charged. (Ask my wife....it goes far beyond models.)

But I'll tell ya what....if you and the other gents who have more experience with some of these 1/32 kits that were around before WnW would make a list of those that you feel are close to the same standards of engineering and accuracy, man, I would really appreciate it.
Truly.

In fact, I will start a thread asking just that.

Thanks for weighing in.

Cheers from NYC,
Michael



I gotta agree, I really don't want to spend most of my very limited precious trying to turn chicken s*%t into chicken salad.  I'm going to take my efforts and pour them into a fantastic kit and end up with a show stopper.  That's personally how I roll, I certainly don't begrudge anyone for doing what they like to do with their hobby.  You want to take the worst kit every and win Gold at a show, god speed, good luck.   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 30, 2015, 08:04:13 AM
i dont consider it turning chicken shit into chicken salad, if i like an aircraft it makes me want to model it. if whats available takes extra work them that means i get more value for my money cuz it takes longer,requires more research and it tests and therefore expands my modelling skills. my goal is to be more like des. and just build whatever and have it look as good as a store bought model. i am not there yet but i am only 46.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on June 30, 2015, 08:09:29 AM
some people feel the opposite way and thats fine to. not everone is in transition, not everyone wants to expand their skillset,some are very content assembling and putting a nice display on the shelf without the hassle of having to solve problems and perfect imperfections. to me thats the fun. thats what sets apart an individual modeller and showcases his abilities ,taking something basic and making it into a work of art. not everyone wants to be an artist, this is all fine as long as the individual enjoys what hes doing and has fun within his/her hobby. i salute each and every modeller on this site,you are my friends and my peers.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on June 30, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
I completely agree, Scott. Very well said. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on June 30, 2015, 12:20:20 PM
   Bravo Scott! Perfectly stated, and as I said elsewhere or earlier, "it all boils down to the fun factor"! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on June 30, 2015, 12:56:04 PM
I agree with Scott also. The fun for me is the research, the learning, the problem solving. But I do like taking a nice kit like a WNWs and seeing how far I can push it. They've already done a lot of really good research and their kits are very accurate. I'm not having to fix poorly engineered and badly produced kits. I'm more interested in standing on the shoulders of giants than polishing a turd! ;D

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 30, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
Well delivered, Scott  ;)

Problem solving is the one thing I love about our hobby. Sure, Wingnut kits are magical, but let me stick a pin in your bubble; they ain't perfect! Ask Bo!  ;D

Of all the (few  ::) ) kits I've built over the past 10 years the 1/32 Pfalz DIII by Roden has given me the most satisfaction. Why? Because I had to work at it, spend time thinking about my next move, researching it, and above all the important problem solving needed on more than one occasion to get the job done!

Problematic Von Buckles   ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on June 30, 2015, 06:11:53 PM
Spot on Scott!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on June 30, 2015, 09:52:03 PM
Whaddya think about that....as flat as it is up there on the Canadian plains, there's an echo between here and there....and there....and there....and there......

See what you started? ;) ;D
To get back to speculating, I just noticed on the Wingnuts site "News" that the Camel has
make an appearance...sort of old news, but it seems they are working on it. ::) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on June 30, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
I 100% agree with Scott as well, I feel like there is some kind of undertone here of people whom are upset with people who build WNW kits.  I applaud all modelers, I am a professional model maker for my living.  I have converted meany horrible kits to something worth while.  I don't feel superior to anyone else for doing so.  All I'm saying is I think it's unfair to consider those who choose to build WNW kits as modelers who choose the easy way out, or someone doesn't add any super detailing.  It's just my observation here that there is some kind of growing discontent with WNW.  Why not build and let build.  Why am I to feel inferior to someone who builds something else?   
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on July 01, 2015, 02:03:04 AM
Back to wild speculation....okay....at first the Wright flyer seemed odd, but I have to say I would buy a Wright Flyer.  The question is only the original Wright Flyer, or the Wright Flyer II or III?  For the Wright Flyer I would there be alternate markings for the 1903 flight, then the yellowed fabric of the early 80's before the restoration to it's current state? 
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 01, 2015, 02:37:06 AM
I 100% agree with Scott as well, I feel like there is some kind of undertone here of people whom are upset with people who build WNW kits.  I applaud all modelers, I am a professional model maker for my living.  I have converted meany horrible kits to something worth while.  I don't feel superior to anyone else for doing so.  All I'm saying is I think it's unfair to consider those who choose to build WNW kits as modelers who choose the easy way out, or someone doesn't add any super detailing.  It's just my observation here that there is some kind of growing discontent with WNW.  Why not build and let build.  Why am I to feel inferior to someone who builds something else?

I'm not sure I agree that there is a "growing discontent with WNW". I just think the point is, although they make very nice kits, they are not the only company in town, and we still need to support the other guys. Also, WNW only make what they want to make, which is perfectly fair and in a relatively short time have created a large selection of kits, but there are large areas that they show no interest in such as French subjects like Nieuports, etc. Roden and other companies make these so we still have options. But WNW has upped the quality bar and that's a good thing in my opinion. It us forcing others to push their game up too.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 01, 2015, 03:33:10 AM
Michael, you started some very good discussion on this and the the other thread where you originally posed your question. We all have different views and opinions, but it has been a good discussion. Thanks for getting the ball rolling.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 02, 2015, 11:21:27 AM
this is in response to the hope for a wright flyer. whereas it would be neat to have a good quality kit of this craft i dont think wnw will make one. they only do ww1. the wright flyer is 11 years before ww1 so i seriously doubt that would be in the cards. there were actually quite a few wright designs that continued to be refined for some years but they wright were stuck more on trying to legally tie the hands of glenn curtiss with copyright infringements more than trying to improve their technology in a substantial way. therefore they whithered on the vine and ultimately failed as aircraft manufacturers. i have some plans for a few of the wright craft i think a model a and b maybe a military flyer, obtined from ww1 aero.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pietro on July 16, 2015, 08:27:45 PM
I love all you guys (and the girl) on this forum. But I gotta keep plugging on this JN-4 Canuck before WNW releases their kit of it.I've got to learn how to post pictures of the progress of the build. And the other stuff too; scratch-built Albatross W-4 and the Curtiss A-1 trident all 1/32 scale. However, I think Des did a better job on his ,though, I built mine in 2011 for the 100th anniversary of U.S. Aviation for a contest at Fort Worden, Washington state.





Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 17, 2015, 06:08:26 AM
would like to see your work pietro.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pietro on July 18, 2015, 02:38:04 PM
albatros1234, thank you very much. I'm pretty sure my model skills are not on the same level as others on this forum. But, I gotta tell you, I'm sure having fun! God is great, bourbon is good and I highly recommend retirement to anyone who can afford it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Terri on July 18, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
Please , share your work with us . Every one is welcomed here no matter what your skill level is . It's all about having fun and enjoy what you are doing  8)





Terri
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2015, 11:09:13 PM
Pietro, like the others, I would love to see your work. Also remember we are usually our own worst critics. All are welcomed to share and will receive positive feedback! Now back to speculation. I still think the Dolphin and Strutter will eventually appear. I also would Love to see the WNW treatment on a Fokker DVIII!  A SPAD XIII and SPAD XI would be nice also.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 19, 2015, 07:27:02 AM
I may have mentioned this once or twice before - A BE.2 PLEASE -     thankyou, I will not repeat myself again  :) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on July 19, 2015, 12:01:01 PM
A BE.2 would be nice! Must be a good chance as TVAL has one, don't they?
Though it has been some time since Wingnutter Command released a single seater. The most recent new type being the Snipe
in June 13 I think. Perhaps there is hope yet for our Noop and Hanriot enthusiasts.  ;D
Which is me too.  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 19, 2015, 12:33:56 PM
Michael, you just never know, Wingnuts are renowned for dropping surprises on us.

Boggie, I think the next single seater will be the Sopwith Camel, it has ben a much anticipated kit for many years, there could also be a surprise to go with it.

But a BE.2 would be the cherry on the cake  :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Terri on July 19, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
I would really like to see a FE-8  :)







Terri
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on July 19, 2015, 01:20:49 PM
Hi Des. I am a Camel fan and would like it to be released next. But as you say, the BE as the surprise would be great.  Elegant, fragile and charismatic all at the same time.
To me the epitomy of the early warplane that really wasn't, but did it anyway. Gotta be happy with a couple of those!  :)


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiResin on July 19, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
I would really like to see a FE-8  :)


welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll............. maybe not from Wingnut, but.... maybe...-




Terri
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on July 20, 2015, 08:42:49 AM
A BE.2 would be nice! Must be a good chance as TVAL has one, don't they?
They've restored an F and built two Es, two Cs and a BE.12 so they definitely have the reference material!

Though it has been some time since Wingnutter Command released a single seater. (...) Perhaps there is hope yet for our Noop and Hanriot enthusiasts.

TVAL has an airworthy, original HD.1 and a handful of Nieuport replicas, too...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on July 20, 2015, 09:52:26 AM
Hi Zac. Many thanks for the info. Hope it's not too long before the next unveiling.  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 21, 2015, 09:13:47 AM
Hi Des. I am a Camel fan and would like it to be released next. But as you say, the BE as the surprise would be great.  Elegant, fragile and charismatic all at the same time.
To me the epitomy of the early warplane that really wasn't, but did it anyway. Gotta be happy with a couple of those!  :)
Well put, boggie, albeit a sort of homely elegance, the old bird did have a charisma rivaling, say, the RE8. Would be a major addition to WnW's catalogue. I still gotta fancy the idea of a BE12 as well... sporting a top winged Lewis.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 21, 2015, 12:02:52 PM
me too terri,fe-8 the coolest ,sleekest, sweetest brit pusher
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 24, 2015, 05:03:51 AM
How about a Vickers FB19....Imperial Russian markings......very clean little ship.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on July 26, 2015, 07:41:27 AM
 How about a Breguet 14a and 14B. While I thinking of if I'd love to see a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter as well
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Ernie on July 27, 2015, 12:04:46 AM
I will join the chorus for the BE.2 which would be a great addition,
although my first wish will be the Hanriot HD1 which would please
me to no end. ;)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 27, 2015, 01:01:51 PM
Let me add my weight to the BE series band wagon.  I would buy every variant that WNW would release.  Same goes for the Strutter.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 27, 2015, 10:57:39 PM
Let me add my weight to the BE series band wagon.  I would buy every variant that WNW would release.  Same goes for the Strutter.
Cheers,
Bud

Well, I would be in for a BE12 for my 19 squadron collection and of course I HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED THE sTRUTTER... AS USED BY 43 SQUADRON.
ragiii
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 28, 2015, 02:54:37 AM
I'm up for a Fokker DR.1  8)

Verbatim Von Bob
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on July 28, 2015, 03:22:03 AM
Today it's five months since WNW have unleashed their last releases so far, the AEG bombers. I will not add to this wishing-thread, but simply express my hope that they're NOT working on a Handley Page O/400 or any Riesenflugzeug.
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on July 28, 2015, 03:36:46 AM
  Bob and Michael,
I'd imagine that with the all time popularity of the Fokker Dr.I at some point WNW will issues a Tripe. Likely the question isn't if but rather when. Just my .2 cents gross before tax(s).
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on July 28, 2015, 08:14:00 AM
   I have been haunting their Website hoping for a total surprise release before the Camel, a "Strutter" would be a grand occasion for sure and a DR.1 a very welcome addition to their line. Then again a re-release of a few I missed out on..............like a Duelist Harry Tate/Albie D.I or D.II! (something old and something new ???)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on July 28, 2015, 08:17:01 AM
The surprise I would love to see is a Friedrichshafen G.III. Second would be a Hanriot HD1
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 28, 2015, 09:50:02 AM
Oh maaan...an RE8/Albie D2 duet would be delightful, wouldn't it. Finish the entire canon of Albatros fighters.....highly doubtful though, I should think.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 28, 2015, 04:12:38 PM
Oops, sorry...all well and good except they haven't done a D3 so ignore the canon bit.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 28, 2015, 11:12:46 PM
Two thoughts, gang.......Has anyone actually done a survey of what our wants are? A poll?

Secondly, I grew up with a dad who was a real WWI aero buff but it is now obvious that my knowledge of WWI was limited to the Leach prints he had on the walls of his study and the kits released in 1/48 by Aurora, and the 1/72 kits of Airfix and Revell. Ergo, just looking up info on the planes many of you are hoping for has proven a real education for me and expanded my awareness greatly.

Thank you and keep 'em coming.

We did a Poll a couple or three years ago. Also a "Supposed" WNW inspired poll was done on the WNW fans Facebook page was done last year. The end result, as I am sure Des will reaffirm, is that WNW has their own agenda and Polls/our wants seem to be of little interest to their release program. JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on July 28, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
Two thoughts, gang.......Has anyone actually done a survey of what our wants are? A poll?

Hi Big Mike  :)

No need for a poll.

The answer is really quite simple .

I want em all!   Mwaahahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 29, 2015, 12:04:57 AM


 But, please, give me a little model to work on and I promise to be quiet.

Cheers from NYC, Steam Town USA (but it beats the hell outta snow!)

A poll would be interesting and fun to see what we all are hoping for, but this thread pretty much sums up what our collective interests are.

Michael, as far as having a little model to work on, I know many of us here have a big enough stash that we'll be lucky to get through them before senility sets in and our motor skills go! ;D  (and I know nothing is gonna keep the Michael I know quiet! But that's why we love you! ;D ;D ;D)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 29, 2015, 12:59:44 AM
Ok, Michael, here's mine, with some agreement with your list:

1) BE.2c, e
2) Freidrichshafen FF.33
3) Nieuport 11
4) SSW D.III
5) Vickers SB.5 Gunbus

And as David Letterman used to say "We've polled the studio audience, and we all know how much that hurts!"

G
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 29, 2015, 02:27:39 AM
Here are my five "wishes" ....................

1) Fokker F.1 or Dr.1
2) Friedrichshafen F33E "Wölfchen"
3) Albatros W.4, or D.I, D.II, D.III
4) Sablatnik SF2
5) Gotha WD 14 Topedobomber

But first please a Halberstadt CL.II or/and a CL.IV  8)
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on July 29, 2015, 02:59:33 AM
My five:

Friedrichshafen G.III
Farman - Longhorn and/or Shorthorn
Hanriot Hd1
Voisin - Any Version
Albatros D.I & D.III
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 29, 2015, 03:32:25 AM


And BTW, George, if your stash is getting too big, you can always remember the needy......I'll be 62 1/2 on August 22 and I guess Prze is not going to send me the AEG he doesn't want to build.

I got some of those kits from you. Now you want them back?! :o ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jamieg on July 29, 2015, 03:47:21 AM
My choices would be;
1. Aviatik Berg D.I
2. Hansa-Brandenberg D.I
3. Oeffag Albatros D.III (53,153 and 253)
4. Lohner flying boat
5. Hanriot HD.1
6. Pfalz D.VIII
7. Foker D.I, II or V
8. Phonix D.I/II
9. SSW D.IV
10. whatever they want to give(sell) me
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 29, 2015, 05:05:08 AM
Two thoughts, gang.......Has anyone actually done a survey of what our wants are? A poll?

Secondly, I grew up with a dad who was a real WWI aero buff but it is now obvious that my knowledge of WWI was limited to the Leach prints he had on the walls of his study and the kits released in 1/48 by Aurora, and the 1/72 kits of Airfix and Revell. Ergo, just looking up info on the planes many of you are hoping for has proven a real education for me and expanded my awareness greatly.

Thank you and keep 'em coming.

We did a Poll a couple or three years ago. Also a "Supposed" WNW inspired poll was done on the WNW fans Facebook page was done last year. The end result, as I am sure Des will reaffirm, is that WNW has their own agenda and Polls/our wants seem to be of little interest to their release program. JMHO,
RAGIII




Correct you are the only "poll" that counts is that of Sir PJ.

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ondra on July 29, 2015, 05:10:22 AM
The look at your generous wishlists makes me hope WNW will start producing kits in my scale too.  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 29, 2015, 07:28:47 AM
1. Fokker Dr. I
2. A Full set of Nieuports
3. A full set of Albatri
4. A full set of teeth
5. A full set of functioning hair follicles

 ;D

vB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 29, 2015, 08:27:42 AM

We did a Poll a couple or three years ago. Also a "Supposed" WNW inspired poll was done on the WNW fans Facebook page was done last year. The end result, as I am sure Des will reaffirm, is that WNW has their own agenda and Polls/our wants seem to be of little interest to their release program. JMHO,
RAGIII

Rick is quite correct in what he has said. The poll we had drew a lot of response and was compiled a very comprehensive list of aircraft types 'wished' for by our members, I sent the list to Richard over at Wingnuts and his respnse was a wry - "interesting' -  Rick hit the nail on the head, Wingnuts are not one bit interested in polls or what modelers want, they will do whatever they want, whenever they want and how they want, we have to remember that the Wingnuts 'factory' is Sir Peter Jacksons own personal little hobby shop so he will stock it with what HE wants.

Des
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on July 29, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
I think Wingnuts are interested in most-wanted polls but what influence- if any- these polls have on subject selection is unknown. We know they were initially not doing a Camel then after much lobbying they announced a Camel is being developed, so customer feedback can be persuasive.

My concerns for the next releases are that they return to more affordable kits ( single seaters) and be mindful that the poorly performing Aussie/ Kiwi/ Canadian dollar ( among other currencies) will greatly influence buying decisions. This would not be a good time for Wingnuts to nudge its prices up. I'd buy at least two Camels but if the price/ exchange rate is too high I would only buy one, if that. A poor exchange rate means customers become fussier over what they buy or can afford.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 29, 2015, 10:50:33 AM
1) Halberstadt C.II
2) Halberstadt D.II
3) SPAD A.2
4) Hanriot HD.1
5) Roland D.II
6) Sopwith Strutter
7) Fokker D.III (but please, no)
8) Caproni Ca.3
9) Vickers FB.5 "Gunbus"
10) Bristol Scout
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 29, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
Bo, the Roland D.II is an example of a plane with which I was not familiar. Was the fuselage created as the one for the Walfisch was done?

If I understand your q to read "are they the same fuselage?" : no, but they employed nearly identical construction techniques...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 29, 2015, 02:11:39 PM
my wish is anything that we dont have a 1/32 kit for already.but especially

1. aviatik berg d.1
2.albatros c.1 or just about any albatros 2 seater
3.hansa brandenburg d.1/kd
4.fokker d.iv and/or fokker d.v
5.halberstadt cl.ii or cl.iv
6. junkers cl.i
7.lohner aa/d.1
8.phonix d series
9, phonix c.1
10. oeffag albatros series 53,153,253
11. halberstadt d.v
12.jeannin stahltaube
13.otto pusher biplane
14. pfalz d.viii
15.sablatnig sf.2
16.fe-8
17.breguet xiv
18.spad a2/a4
19.spad xii
20.sikorsky s.xvi
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on July 29, 2015, 05:54:52 PM


And BTW, George, if your stash is getting too big, you can always remember the needy......I'll be 62 1/2 on August 22 and I guess Prze is not going to send me the AEG he doesn't want to build.

I would very much like to, Michael. But I still did not get it.  ;) On the other hand, I have just acquired DFW C.V Late, but this one I plan to build... I am so sorry.


And to join the wish-list company, here are my choices based on what could be build in Polish post-war colours, sequence does not matter:

1. Friedrichshafen FF.33E
2. Lubeck Travemunde F2/F4
3. Albatros D.III Oef
4. Bristol F.2B Fighter with Hispano Suiza
5. Breguet 14
6. Hansa Brandenburg NW
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on July 29, 2015, 06:55:11 PM
Hey Prze, you'll need the new Camel then to build as F5234 Kosciuszko or one of the F1s donated to Poland by King George V?
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on July 29, 2015, 06:58:16 PM
Hey Prze, you'll need the new Camel then to build as F5234 Kosciuszko or one of the F1s donated to Poland by King George V?
Sandy

Yes, I do need it.  ;) But it is already announced so I did not include it in my list.
Besides, I prefer two-seaters, except for the Kosciuszko Squadron pack - Camel announced by WNW, Balilla by Aviattic and the last missing is Oeffag.  :)
BTW, no reliable documents exist to prove, that we had here anything more than the one Camel, brought by Kenneth Murray - that F5234. It was in autumn 1920, too late to take part in Polish-Soviet war.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on July 29, 2015, 07:12:45 PM
If it helps to track them down my Camel File tells me that another, F5243 also most likely with 110hp LeRhone 9J went to 7th Kosciusko.
According to Sturtevant, KG.Vs gift included 5 or 6 Camels but a dock strike delayed delivery from March to August 1920. He says "Polish sources" quote a total of 10 Camels in service including one flown and written off at Lwow in 1922 by General L Rayski who injured his face!
HTH
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on July 29, 2015, 07:23:00 PM
I do not know, which Polish sources are referred to in your materials, but I have several books, majority unfortunately in Polish, (by Kopanski, Morgala, Goworek, etc.) which indicate just one Camel in Poland (not counting the fuselage, now in Polish Aviation Museum in Cracow, which came to Poland much, much later). This is the current historical version, supported by many historians. And there is indeed no trace of further Camels in numerous photos of Kosciuszko Squadron aircraft from 1919-1921 period.

And Rajski crash in Lwow in 1921 involved the F5234, which beforehand was bought from Murray (it was his private mount).
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on July 29, 2015, 07:34:56 PM
Oh well, Ray S has gone to the big squadron in the sky now so we can't ask him for his sources I'm afraid. Sounds like you've got it all covered anyway. Look forward to seeing your K Sqdn.
Cheers
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on July 30, 2015, 03:33:20 AM
Any list that's top-heavy with Austro-Hungarian ships is an excellent list in my book... glaringly absent from the 1/32 world, they be. And yes indeedy, finish of said list with all sorts of Nieuports....(and resin figures).
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on July 30, 2015, 04:07:26 AM
To tally up this informal poll, it looks like the Friedrichshafen FF.33E wins with the most votes, with hair follicles coming in a close second! ;D. So, Sir Peter, if you're reading this, get right on that! The people have spoken!

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 30, 2015, 08:03:37 AM
My wish list is very short but I believe the aircraft are worthy of being kitted by Wingnuts.

Be.2
Avro 504
Curtiss Jenny
Short 184

That's it, short and sweet, but those four aircraft if produced as 1:32 scale kits would really make my day  :) :) ;)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on July 30, 2015, 08:29:20 AM
Some interesting choices out there (yours Des, plus some A-H subjects) and I'm all for some cheaper single-seaters or smallish 2-seaters. The NZ dollar has tumbled substantially (about 30% in a couple of months) and the AEG GIV is now $NZ346 or so - hideous! I might, just might, get myself one as a 60th birthday treat coming up at the end of September. It is a pain in the arse that we NZers have to pay US dollar prices - and subsidise all you lot for your expensive foreign postage too. I only live 50 km away!

Grumpy GrahamB

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 30, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
We here in Australia have suffered the same fate Graham, our dollar has dropped to a ten year low so that negates any overseas purchases for me, but I would still like to see WnW produce the four types I mentioned, they would look really cool sitting on my display shelf.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2015, 08:35:54 AM
Well I guess if Des is in I will throw in my 2 cents worth:
1. Sopwith Dolphin
2. Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter
3. Fokker EV
4. BE 12
5. SPAD XII

RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on July 30, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
Tapping into the issue of exchange rates and how the poor Aussie/ Kiwi dollar is performing against the US, it would be interesting to know just how big the US market may be for Wingnut sales as opposed to sales to other parts of the world where the local currency is performing poorly against the US dollar.

Without wanting to inflame the issue or start a flame war, the fiscal reality is that US customers are probably the only ones who buy a Wingnuts kit for the list price - everyone else is at the whim of their local currency against the US dollar.

So how big is the US market to Wingnut's sales? Anyone care to speculate? And don't bother asking Wingnuts. There's no way they would divulge this sort of information.

The Aussie dollar fell below US73c today which casts another pall on buying WnW kits. As of today a $US99 Wingnuts kit would cost me $A135.62. That kind of exchange rate must affect sales to non US customers?

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on July 30, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
 Des, Dave and Graham, I truly feel for you guys.  It wasn't too long ago that the US$ was pure rubbish against damned near everything else.  Being a 1/48 scale modeler, most, if not all, of my kits came from Europe where everything was priced in euros or GBP.  The pound was 3 to 1 against the dollar and the euro was nearly 2 to 1.  Even buying kits from sellers in Canada and Australia was rough.  For a kit going for 100 Australian $, I'd pay $116 US or from Canada, $112.  Give it time fellas, it'll swing back. 
As for why WNW prices in US dollars, I'm betting it's based on population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population
  The US is ranked 3rd behind China and India and can you imagine Sir Peter pricing his products in yuans or rupees?  I'm pretty sure US modelers are buying an awful lot of those kits.  Hell, I had no interest whatsoever in 1/32 scale until I saw several WNW builds on the 'drome.  Beeza and Umflaumotor were the first to sell me on 'em, but now I have one built and 18 in the stash, including that beastly Felixstowe.  So don't be mad at us, guys.  We're with you on this and hopefully things will stabilize soon.  But not before I buy the Copper State Big Ack.

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on July 30, 2015, 11:56:43 AM
The Aussie dollar fell below US73c today which casts another pall on buying WnW kits. As of today a $US99 Wingnuts kit would cost me $A135.62. That kind of exchange rate must affect sales to non US customers?

.......as well as the NZ dollar, and here in Canada we are at .76. That's a big factor for all of us "Colonials"! The Camel would tip me over the edge into impulse buying mode but, for now, my orders are on hold! :'(
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 30, 2015, 12:52:18 PM
Just to give you some idea of how the drop in our Aussie dollar has effected the purchase price of Wingnut kits, these prices do not include the Paypal take which will add a few more dollars to the purchase price.

Se.5a           $69US   - $94AUD
Fokker D.VII $79US   - $108AUD
Junkers J1    $99US   - $135AUD
AEG             $229US - $313AUD
Felixstowe    $269US - $367AUD
Felix/W29     $349US - $477AUD

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 30, 2015, 01:01:06 PM
Just to give you some idea of how the drop in our Aussie dollar has effected the purchase price of Wingnut kits, these prices do not include the Paypal take which will add a few more dollars to the purchase price.

Se.5a           $69US   - $94AUD
Fokker D.VII $79US   - $108AUD
Junkers J1    $99US   - $135AUD
AEG             $229US - $313AUD
Felixstowe    $269US - $367AUD
Felix/W29     $349US - $477AUD

Des.

The nicer the nice the Higher the price... Compare the new Tamiya 1/32 Mossie at US $285 or the 1/32 Mustang at $218, F4U at $213 and Spit at $172 all PLUS postage.  WNW kits are a bargain

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on July 30, 2015, 02:37:44 PM
Just to be clear- concerns re exchange rates and their impact on Wingnuts kit prices are not a criticism of Wingnuts. Many international companies prefer to work in US Dollars but I do sympathise with the Kiwis, dealing with a NZ model company based in Wellington but having to pay in US dollars at an exchange rate that is crippling on the poor Kiwi dollar. Its unfortunate there's no special rate for local modellers.

As for comparable kit prices, the new Tamiya Mosquito is not $US 285 in Australia. Metro Hobbies has it for $A249.99 with free post. The Tamiya F4U is not $US 213. I got mine for $A139.

That said Wingnut kits are exceptional quality and value but a crippling exchange rate means purchases will be of a single kit,. not the various variants they release subjects in now.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on July 30, 2015, 03:11:23 PM
I agree fully with Dave, the exchange rate price is not at all a criticism of the high quality Wingnut kits, just a bummer that our dollar has taken a nose dive and is restricing my overseas purchases.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 30, 2015, 05:40:32 PM
i wonder why the english pound is so strong? england is just a small country and i am puzzled as to what causes this. we do buy alot of jaguars and alcoholic products here but not alot of other english products that i am aware of. the euro has dropped closer to the dollar but still it was always the u.s. dollar on top. i wonder the reasons.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Bluesfan on July 30, 2015, 10:30:24 PM
Just in case there's any mileage left in the current informal wish list poll:

1. SSW D.IV
2. Nieuport 17
3. SPAD XII (though maybe this is one better suited for the likes of Aviattic?)
4. Lohner
5. Morane L

And I'm getting a Camel. To be built in a nice colourful RNAS scheme.

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GrahamB on July 31, 2015, 05:36:47 AM
Not 'English' pound please - British. Not 'England' either - Britain or UK.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 31, 2015, 07:37:33 AM
Just to be clear- concerns re exchange rates and their impact on Wingnuts kit prices are not a criticism of Wingnuts. Many international companies prefer to work in US Dollars but I do sympathise with the Kiwis, dealing with a NZ model company based in Wellington but having to pay in US dollars at an exchange rate that is crippling on the poor Kiwi dollar. Its unfortunate there's no special rate for local modellers.

As for comparable kit prices, the new Tamiya Mosquito is not $US 285 in Australia. Metro Hobbies has it for $A249.99 with free post. The Tamiya F4U is not $US 213. I got mine for $A139.

That said Wingnut kits are exceptional quality and value but a crippling exchange rate means purchases will be of a single kit,. not the various variants they release subjects in now.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia


Well, happy to see you are getting a break on those kits!

Just 2 to add to the wish List:

Dolphin
Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter

Ed
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: 15badcats on July 31, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
Well we know a Camel is coming and there are always 5 different marking schemes anyone care to guess the markings for the five? For me the more colorful the better PC10 is kinda boring I think
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on July 31, 2015, 12:11:10 PM
this is one of many reasons i prefer central powers aircraft 15badcats.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 31, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
lol
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on July 31, 2015, 12:37:37 PM
or one will be black with iron crosses.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on July 31, 2015, 10:20:34 PM
Well we know a Camel is coming and there are always 5 different marking schemes anyone care to guess the markings for the five? For me the more colorful the better PC10 is kinda boring I think

I'm guessing four will be basically PC green / brown. One of those will have a white letter on it, another will have a white number on it, a third will have white stripes. The fourth might have a dash of red on the tail (love heart?). The final option will be grey with a white shape on the side.

Funny Indeed! You forgot the Geometric shapes  ::) I have already stated a couple I think "Could Show up". Woollets Camel preferably as it appeared with white blotches on the wings,or conversely with the red/white/blue fin and roundels on the top of the lower wing. Of course Barkers Camel, McKewans red checkered nose and fin, and Breadners red sunburst on the tail and King of Diamonds on the upper surface of the Lower wing. If they do a separate Naval version then there are The Naval 10 striped noses,9 Naval various colored circles and geometric shapes etc.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhallinger on August 01, 2015, 04:30:21 AM
They could really go overboard and do the Ruston 1000th Camel, but that seems more up Rowan's baliwick.  I also seem to recall an all-white Camel from somewhere, maybe known as the White Feather?  The US Navy also had a post-war Camel in an interesting naval scheme.  My sources are all at home, so I'll have to check them tonight.  I'm sure this will be fun!

Regards,

Bob

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on August 01, 2015, 05:08:26 AM
Naval Camels give the decal makers more to contemplate.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 01, 2015, 05:38:22 AM
Yeah...you gotta think that Pheon is all over the imminent Camel release..maybe doing 3 or 4 sheets. There were so very many Camel squadrons to choose from.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 01, 2015, 05:45:07 AM
They could really go overboard and do the Ruston 1000th Camel, but that seems more up Rowan's baliwick.  I also seem to recall an all-white Camel from somewhere, maybe known as the White Feather?  The US Navy also had a post-war Camel in an interesting naval scheme.  My sources are all at home, so I'll have to check them tonight.  I'm sure this will be fun!

Regards,

Bob
There was a white Camel in the 41st Aero, USAS...seems I've another one somewhere.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on August 01, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
I probably should have phrased it that some of us will contemplate our naval Camels.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dal Gavan on August 01, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
I also seem to recall an all-white Camel from somewhere, maybe known as the White Feather? 

Bob, there was Harry Cobby's white Camel, that he used while attached to a training squadron in the UK, which I believe was called the "White Feather".  Is that the one?

Dal.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on August 01, 2015, 01:04:07 PM
Here it is, The White Feather
Note the white struts, white machine guns and white propeller

click picture for a larger image

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rIgEPPKUeQE/Vbw2lhGMHFI/AAAAAAAASOE/hYDFJy_XqR4/s1076-Ic42/white%252520feather.jpg)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 01, 2015, 01:09:46 PM
That's a cool camel, Des. I like how even the MGs are painted white.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 01, 2015, 01:23:54 PM
I was just doing a bit of research on the white Camel and came across another. It looks like we have at least a few choices if we want a white Camel.

Captain G. F. Malley and his White Camel:

(http://imageshack.com/a/img661/2466/BYUccq.jpg)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img912/6378/wmU9pN.jpg)

Note the absence of MGs.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on August 01, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
  Perhaps a trainer?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 01, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
still if pheon does do a camel sheet he can fit quite a bit of brit markings on not to much sheet area. may be able to do more than one squadron per release.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on August 01, 2015, 05:33:58 PM
yes, the all-white E7259 was with 5 Training Sqdn AFC at Minchinhampton in 1918.
S
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on August 01, 2015, 06:16:57 PM
There were also a group of eight 2F.1 Camels sent to Canada in 1925 in white (or maybe cream or silver?)
One of them N8156 was displayed in Ottawa in this light colouring for some years before being "restored" to a more representative colour scheme.
Pics from the Air-Britain Camel File
I've always wondered if these aircraft were perhaps the reason the box art on the original 1956 release of the Aurora Camel showed a pale (yellowish-buff) F1.
Sandy
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 02, 2015, 01:07:24 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 02, 2015, 06:24:01 AM
at least its not pc-10,
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 02, 2015, 07:25:11 AM
Were these guys cousins of Hermann Goering??
.  Michael....please to show me how dense I am by 'splaining your Goeringness.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on August 02, 2015, 09:35:02 AM
Were these guys cousins of Hermann Goering??
.  Michael....please to show me how dense I am by 'splaining your Goeringness.

all white, ala his D.VII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on August 02, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
..or,  the little wide fokker had a little white fokker.  ;D
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 02, 2015, 11:29:29 AM
As far as all WWI fliers of all nations he is the one guy I have completely ignored...can't help it. So I know nothing of his aircraft.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: GAJouette on August 02, 2015, 02:16:09 PM
..or,  the little wide fokker had a little white fokker.  ;D

 Boggie,
LOL my old adopted Texan friend.Not a wide body himself but likely needed a wide body Fokker. You know so there'd be extra room for the morphine viles.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: boggie on August 02, 2015, 03:08:30 PM
Hi Gregory  :)

Hahaha. Yep, that's I meant to say!  ;)  Thank you  ;D

Sure is good having you back with us pardner.  :)

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Checkers67 on August 03, 2015, 04:09:30 AM
This must be my third or fourth plea for a WNW Austro-Hungarian Oeffag D.III kit. Think of all the marking options and paint jobs. Besides having a Austro-Daimaler engine, you can have two A-H machine guns!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on August 03, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
Having just picked up the book The Happy Warrior, about McCudden, I broke down and bought the DH2. It came to 92.88 Cdn via Paypal  :'( . I will be putting off some of the other purchases I want to get, so I am hoping it will be December at least before they have any new releases. The exhange rate is horrid. I do want the Camel, still hope for a Fokker VIII and putting off a purchase of the FE 2B and Fokker EVI.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 03, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
wnw did do a swarzlose machine gun for the austro-hungarian late eindecker. theres only one in the kit but a resin caster could make copies if need be
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: KiwiZac on August 05, 2015, 11:55:20 AM
My guess is one of the Camel schemes will be that of E5663, as recently reproduced on TVAL's original, airworthy example.

I'm disappointed in how the exchange rates have been going - for birthdays etc my fiancee likes me to do "wishlists" so she doesn't buy a kit I already have. I gave her a printout of five WNW kits, any one of which I'd love...my birthday is Saturday, and I've been contemplating telling her not to do it because of the price increases!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Jamo on August 05, 2015, 05:16:33 PM
Zac there are a few available on Trademe for a bit less than new price, from a chap I know in Lower Hutt
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on August 05, 2015, 11:06:04 PM
The WNW folks have been very quiet of late......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on August 06, 2015, 07:32:35 AM
They go like this just before a big release, they are probably busy boxing up all the new kits in preparation for a fanfare release.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on August 06, 2015, 07:37:23 AM
.....yes, makes you wonder what all the employees at WNW are doing just now!
Wish they would tell us when announcements are to be made - I want to place an order for a couple of existing kits, but the taxman here seems to charge about the same for two or for more items and then adds a premium on each complete batch.
Makes sense for me to wait to see if I want to add the next release.
S
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 06, 2015, 11:41:39 AM
.....yes, makes you wonder what all the employees at WNW are doing just now!

S

Here's a spy photo from a very reliable source of what the WNW employees are doing now:

(http://imageshack.com/a/img537/1131/uFZ51v.jpg)

 ;) ;D ;D
George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 06, 2015, 12:17:11 PM
The one on the left in green, of course!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: lcarroll on August 06, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
Well, were all expecting a Camel (or two), no surprise but what's the "shocker", if any, going to be?? They are far from done, IMHO! :o 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pietro on August 06, 2015, 05:12:30 PM
As I said before, it's going to be a Canuck! Why? Because I'm trying to scratch-build one.

Pietro
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 06, 2015, 05:44:27 PM
As I said before, it's going to be a Canuck! Why? Because I'm trying to scratch-build one.

Pietro

Pietro, your scratch builds are so nice you don't need Wingnuts!  Just keep doing what you are doing. :)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 06, 2015, 06:31:55 PM
They go like this just before a big release, they are probably busy boxing up all the new kits in preparation for a fanfare release.

Des.

Well, it's my birthday on 12 August. That must be what they're waiting for. How kind!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: eclarson on August 07, 2015, 04:40:29 AM

Here's a spy photo from a very reliable source of what the WNW employees are doing now:

 ;) ;D ;D
George

LOL!  Good one George.   ;D

Eric
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: pietro on August 07, 2015, 05:00:20 AM
Thank you, George. That's very gratifying coming from a Master such as you.

Pietro
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Beto on August 07, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Well, were all expecting a Camel (or two), no surprise but what's the "shocker", if any, going to be?? They are far from done, IMHO! :o 8)
Cheers,
Lance

Criswell predicts (have you seen Ed Wood?) it will be German, have three wings, and one of the color options will have some red paint... good for a "duelists" box set.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on August 09, 2015, 01:17:33 AM
If they match up the blanks on the right handside of their "kit sets" with the releases on the left hand side, I reckon there are another ten releases to go.

If you allow for a Fokker Triplane,Sopwith Camel ,Late Brisfit, and maybe a "duellist", then there may be another six kits yet to be revealed?

Purely speculation on my part of course... ;) ::)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: mike in calif on August 09, 2015, 01:48:13 AM
Dave,
 Unless they are the six floating around in my head, I'll be wanting more than six; don't forget the late Ninack as well. Some brilliant paint schemes. An F.1 Camel, a 2F.1 Camel, and with a sprue for the Le Prieur rockets would suit me just fine.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on August 09, 2015, 08:47:08 AM
They have added a new PDF catalogue
Moreover the resin figures now have their section and are "in development"
You have no trace of the Oop kits.

Something is boiling...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on August 09, 2015, 09:54:39 AM
All the OOP kits are still listed on the Wingnuts site, and the 'in development' sign has been displayed on the resin figures page for neary 5 years now, so it appears nothing has changed. But, something is brewing over at Wingnuts, we can expect a few new releases soon, I think we will be in for a surprise, or two  ;) ;) :D

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 09, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
i think we have a hansa w.12 "mid" or "late" coming soon since they only gave us an "early" last year.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on August 09, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
The guys I feel for are the guys who build the display models for their website.

They must be on some sort of deadline presumably and they are not exactly the sort of things you can rush? :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on August 10, 2015, 01:10:44 AM
All the OOP kits are still listed on the Wingnuts site, and the 'in development' sign has been displayed on the resin figures page for neary 5 years now, so it appears nothing has changed. But, something is brewing over at Wingnuts, we can expect a few new releases soon, I think we will be in for a surprise, or two  ;) ;) :D

Des.
BE2, Des...I can smell it.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Spearhead on August 10, 2015, 06:21:52 AM
The guys I feel for are the guys who build the display models for their website.

They must be on some sort of deadline presumably and they are not exactly the sort of things you can rush? :)

Yes we are given deadlines, mine have varied from 4 weeks to 3 months. Sometimes I do feel I have rushed it and haven't done the the model justice.

Brett
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on August 10, 2015, 06:43:44 AM
The guys I feel for are the guys who build the display models for their website.

They must be on some sort of deadline presumably and they are not exactly the sort of things you can rush? :)

Yes we are given deadlines, mine have varied from 4 weeks to 3 months. Sometimes I do feel I have rushed it and haven't done the the model justice.

Brett

Thank you for your response, Brett. I think this is the first time someone on the inside of WNW has responded directly on this speculation thread. (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am wrong about that  ::))

By the way, very nice HB W.12!

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 10, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
Brett, please allow me a question:
Do you have to build the model strictly out of box, or you have a little bit "freedoms"?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Spearhead on August 10, 2015, 06:55:06 AM
The guys I feel for are the guys who build the display models for their website.

They must be on some sort of deadline presumably and they are not exactly the sort of things you can rush? :)

Yes we are given deadlines, mine have varied from 4 weeks to 3 months. Sometimes I do feel I have rushed it and haven't done the the model justice.

Brett

Thank you for your response, Brett. I think this is the first time someone on the inside of WNW has responded directly on this speculation thread. (I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am wrong about that  ::))

By the way, very nice HB W.12!

George

Thanks George
But I'm not on the inside Of WNW, I have no knowledge of anything happening. I'm just lucky enough to have been asked to build a new release every so often in my spare time.

Brett
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Spearhead on August 10, 2015, 06:57:57 AM
Brett, please allow me a question:
Do you have to build the model strictly out of box, or you have a little bit "freedoms"?

Strictly out of the box

Brett
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on August 10, 2015, 07:02:15 AM
Thanks for the quick reply, Brett  :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 16, 2015, 12:13:32 AM
No , Michael, no newer news as far as I know. But I am glad that this thread is being spun on again...!
By the way, my WnW speculation is that this year's Christmas surprise will be the post-war Ninack.
Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on October 16, 2015, 01:01:03 AM
I wonder if the release of the Camel in 2016 will coincide with the end of free shipping?
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 16, 2015, 01:05:32 AM
I hope they have something better up their sleeves than the post war Ninak that has been on the site "In Development" for ages. I guess it's just like the post war Bristol. They're trying to clear their plates of unfinished promises. But I'd like a real surprise at Christmas.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on October 16, 2015, 01:19:24 AM
I am ready for a real surprise......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 16, 2015, 01:31:32 AM
I would be best surprised by the following:

DH.4 (Rolls Royce), British guise
DH.4 (Liberty engine), USAS guise
Breguet XIVb, USAS and french
SE.5a (Viper engine), USAS
SPAD XIII, USAS

That's already it! Thank you for listening (whom ever it may concern)!
Richard
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 16, 2015, 01:35:33 AM
As I've said before, a Friedrichshafen G.III would be the greatest surprise ever. After all, they did release the Felixstowe last Christmas. My guess though, the Christmas release will be the Camel.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 16, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
Have I missed something? Other than the reboxing with new decals, has anything new actually been released since the Felixstowe? Don't get me wrong.....that was some release, especially flowing so closely on the AEG and W.12,  and the news of the Camel is exciting, but has there actually been a new kit in 2015?

Michael

Your chronology is a little mixed up, but I get your point.

Just to keep things straight here: The AEGs were released in Feb 2015. The Felixes and the W.12 were Dec 2014. The post war Bristol was Sept 2015.

The official announcement has the Camel appearing in 2016. Traditionally there has been a Christmas surprise (or two.) The last few have more or less come straight out of left field.

Maybe the lull means the deluxe boxings are finally imminent?

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 16, 2015, 01:40:58 AM
Yeah, I thought the AEGs were the last big surprise, not the Felixstowes. I'm still hoping for something new, not just the reboxings and dualist kits.
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 16, 2015, 01:44:09 AM
Yeah, I thought the AEGs were the last big surprise, not the Felixstowes. I'm still hoping for something new, not just the reboxings and dualist kits.

I don't think the A.E.G. was that big of a surprise as they were announced at least a year before they were released if I remember correctly. The Felixstowe, in my opinion, was their biggest surprise as I don't think anyone saw it coming or ever thought Wingnut would do one. Just my two cents...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 16, 2015, 03:00:11 AM
You are right James, the Felix (and W.12) were the Christmas Surprises last year. The AEG release date was announced ahead of time and was long publicized as in development.

My bets for the CS this year follow. I think it will be a large kit; probably two seater, as that been the tradition, and expect it will be a Western Front type like every other WNW release so far. In my order of likelihood:

1) Halberstadt CL.II
(http://www.aviationgraphic.com/1126-1890-thickbox/halberstadt-clii-marianne-bh-35.jpg)
This Western Front 2-seat / fighter / ground attack workhorse has, AFAIK, never been kitted in 1/32, at least in injection molded form. A great shape and many colorful Schlasta markings make the appeal of this kit a no-brainer. Sooner or later WNW has to produce one, right?

2) Breguet Br.XIV B2
(http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/october/galleria/Breguet_Br107.jpg)
This would make a nice companion to the Salmson, another important type that hasn't been kitted in 1/32. A big brute of an airplane with lots of cool marking options.

3) Vickers F.B.5 Gunbus
(http://www.wwiaviation.com/drawings/vickers-fb5-gunbus-2-600px.png)
It's been awhile since WNW has released a pusher. This would help round out the early war combatants, the first true operational fighter and one of the few opponents for the Fokker scourge at its height. Appeal? All those wires!

Long Shot) Armstrong Whitworth FK.8
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/545/pics/9_2.jpg)
A lesser known RFC type,  overshadowed by the RE.8, but important nonetheless. Not the prettiest bird, but a mind boggling array of variants add interest and appeal to this kit. This would be the kind of out-of-left-field, yet still within the wheelhouse, kit that only WNW would drop.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 16, 2015, 03:52:13 AM
Bo, I can't argue with your reasoning and choices. On the other hand My guesses remain a little different:
1. Sopwith Dolphin. Three reasons. A. WNW denied having one in development. B. It would sort of round out the Sopwith Fighter collection.
 C. There is one in Sir PJs collection of replicas.
2. Fokker EV/DVIII: Three reasons also: A. The only Major Fokker Type not currently being produced by anyone in 1/32nd. B. It is popular beyond its War Time importance. C. Same as above.
3. My Long shot for a two seater is the Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter or an Albatros C type.

Probably going to be all wrong on all counts but... one never knows. If they go BIG again like the Felix,  I have no Idea  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 16, 2015, 04:01:10 AM
I like Bo's choices, but have to agree with my amigo, Rick, for all the reasons he stated.  Also, the Strutter offers so many options.  I also believe any of the BE's are strong contenders.  All that aside, I think I'll have to put my money on RWinters' choices.  He always seems to get everything he wishes for.  He wished for the Hannover and the Roland C.II and got 'em.  Pretty good track record, I'd say.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 16, 2015, 04:44:08 AM
Have to agree that the Sopwith Strutter is a very good possibility. That should've been on my list. Fits the bill on every count.

A Dolphin wouldn't surprise me too much, but I'll go on record betting against the Fokker E.V/D.VIII -- so far the WNW catalog emphasizes types that were really used on the WF; the D.VIII barely gets an asterisk on that score. Actually I think the earlier D.II and/or D.III are more likely.

It's fun to blindly speculate :)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 16, 2015, 05:58:56 AM
I think I'll have to put my money on RWinters' choices.  He always seems to get everything he wishes for.  He wished for the Hannover and the Roland C.II and got 'em.  Pretty good track record, I'd say.

Hahaha, Bud, I never thought of my luck until I read your post! (Although I was more than happy when WnW released the Hannover and the Roland C.II!) There are so many more Great War's planes, I'd love to see produced by WnW or in WnW's quality, many of them were mentioned in the postings above, and many more I can fancy, especially from the "other" fronts - Russian, Italian Austro-Hungarian... (just dreaming..)
But - no matter what - I am looking foreward to WnW's next CS!

Richard
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 16, 2015, 06:47:50 AM
All the aircraft listed above are great choices and would make excellent models, but my money is still on a BE.2.  I would love to see a BE.2a as used by the Australian Flying Corps and was one of their main training aircraft at Point Cook in Victoria, this is the aircraft I would really like to model. If WnW release the more popular BE.2c I will have to do some modifications, but this is all in the fun of modeling.

Des.

PS. A new Camel from Wingnuts does not interest me at all, I am extremely happy with the way my Academy Camel turned out, took some work but it ended up being a very nice model.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 16, 2015, 07:43:23 AM
I would take anything, what WNW produced. Obviously, if it caught my interest  ;D
But in the matter of fact I would like to see any WW1 aircraft kitted, which served in Polish markings after the war.
And if I were to make a Christmas wish, my very short letter to Santa Claus would say just this - Friedrichshafen FF.33E.
Santa Claus, eeeh, i.e. Peter Jackson, do you copy?
On the other hand, if the WNW Christmas releases line this year does not include anything of interest for me, I will not despair. I still have enough kits for 6-10 months modelling, including the WNW Snipe and SE5a.
In any case - I am happy to let them surprise me!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 16, 2015, 08:14:50 AM
Prze said: "I would take anything, what WNW produced".....except an AEG.

If it caught my interest - I have said, too  ;)  AEG failed a lot in this  ;)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 16, 2015, 08:18:40 AM
Ha - wishlist time again:

1. Halb Cl2
2. Halb Cl4
3. Hanriot HD1

'course I'd be in for new SPADs, DrI, Nieuport 17s etc. as well but not so critical as there are already kits out there....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 16, 2015, 08:47:44 AM
I'll take anything at all - I'm nice like that - but would prefer just the one engine this time. Please.

I agree that single engine would be preferable. As a matter of fact it has been a while since a single seater has been issued! Another reason to suspect a Dolphin, Fokker EV, or....
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 16, 2015, 09:05:06 AM


George said:  "I'd like a real surprise at Christmas"......if you went to the hospital for a simple procedure and came home as Georgina you wouldn't be the only one who was surprised.


Trust me, Michael, no one wants to see that. I won't be following in Bruce, er, Caitlin Jenner's footsteps. But this seems to be a common theme for you. Are you trying to tell us something? :o

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rolanddvi on October 16, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
I'd like to see:

Hanriot HD.1
Phonix D.II
Breguet 14

Mike
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Derrick on October 16, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
It will be a Fokker DVIII as I just received the Falcon Vacuform kit
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LukasTheLight on October 16, 2015, 10:32:37 AM
Hello fellow modellers!!! ;)

Lets add something to this topic once it has been brought back to live after while :)

I'm with Bo on Halberstadt and with Des on BE.2... and I really like the idea of having Albatros D.III or Fokker E.V...

According to surprises - I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any surprise at all since those surprises are no longer surprises (apart from knowing the type :D ). 2014 was such a big year for WNW - I believe it was 9 boxes??? And we are talking about 9 high quality, collectable kits... who else does that? So I'm guessing they slowed things down a bit to clear some shelfs in warehouse for future :D
But hey, whatever they have for us Im sure it will be damn exciting!!! ;)

Cheerio
Lukas
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: LindsayT on October 16, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
I've just run the numbers using AET*, and the surprise kit this year will be a DH4. Think of it: they've got sprues for the Liberty from the Ninak (another fave), and now they have RR Eagle sprues from the Felix. TVAL flew their DH4 earlier this year meaning that WNW had full access to drawings, measurements, and structures before cover.

I'm so sure that I propose a wager. If I win, I buy it, and if I lose, I buy the Halberstadt CL I I that Bo prognosticates.

Lindsay

*Anal Extraction Theory
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 16, 2015, 02:40:27 PM
Actually, although I'd love to see most of the kits suggested here, I already have more than I can handle at my glacial building speed. I am planning on buying the Camel, and if they come up with something I like, I'll most likely buy it too,  but I really don't know why at this point. I never wanted to become one of those stash hoarders, but WnWs has corrupted me!

So, I guess whatever they do is fine with me...

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 16, 2015, 04:55:07 PM
3 wings and a rotary engine. I don't want much  8)

Make it happen, JackO!

vOn TripeofDelight
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Suffolk Lad on October 16, 2015, 05:23:39 PM
Actually, although I'd love to see most of the kits suggested here, I already have more than I can handle at my glacial building speed. I am planning on buying the Camel, and if they come up with something I like, I'll most likely buy it too,  but I really don't know why at this point. I never wanted to become one of those stash hoarders, but WnWs has corrupted me!

So, I guess whatever they do is fine with me...

George

Georges comment here sums it up so well from my own perspective. I've gone from someone who thought they were a mite expensive to a growing pile in a matter of months and I haven't actually made one yet  ;D  My ever tolerant and long supportive  wife says I've become a 'Wingnuttifiliac' - totally addicted but seemingly understands my demise.

Discounting the Camel, which I will get, my desire would be for Bo's first and third choice but in reverse order - I would just love to see a 1/32 Vickers GunBus. The Halberstadt would be a great second closely folllowed by a EV/DVlll. A Dolphin wouldn't go amiss either ;)

In the meantime I shall finish that Accademy Camel - work starts back on that today  :)

Regards - Tug
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Oeli on October 16, 2015, 09:03:22 PM
Hi Guys,

i´ll take all, from A-Z!
But then I live in the future alone in my apartment ;)

No, my little WnW Wishlist is

- Hannover Cl II
- Sopwith Snipe
- FE 2B late
- Hansa Brandenburg W 12 early
- Felixstowe F.2a early

Maybe this will Change from time to time.
But i think, 2 of them will be mine at Christmasday!! ;D

Regards
Jörg
Title: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: James on October 17, 2015, 12:33:57 AM
I was swapping emails with Richard Alexander last year when he wrote something to the effect that anyone thinking WnW would ever produce a Felixstowe was "bonkers". Coincidentally, that was the same day that the news of the F'stowe leaked out.

So, let's play this game from a different direction. Let's create a "Bonkers" list of all the kits you would love to have but cannot imagine WnW ever producing. (Silly waste of time, I know, but, you've read this far....)

Here's my list:
1. Vicker's Vimy
2. Zeppelin-Staaken R.VI
3. Curtis NC-4
4. Sikorsky Ilya Mouromets V

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

Zeppelin-Staaken R.VI
Friedrichshafen G.III
Hanriot Hd.1
Farman - any model
Voisin - any model
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Kreston on October 17, 2015, 02:22:01 AM
I guess I'd like to see WNW treatment of some of the more popular planes:

SPAD VII and XIII
Nieuport 11, 16, 17, 28
Albatros D.III
Hanriot HD.I

And a Fokker D.II
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 17, 2015, 03:03:23 AM
Hello All

I'm with Des on one form of BE 2 or another. If it has to be yet another German aircraft, please let it be a Taube.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Umlaufmotor on October 17, 2015, 04:22:31 AM
For me personally it does not matter what comes out of NZ.
I have completely lost interest in WW1 Models currently.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 17, 2015, 04:25:25 AM
For me personally it does not matter what comes out of NZ.
I have completely lost interest in WW1 Models currently.

What? Your models are so incredible! I hope you are still producing models of some sort. You are a true artist with modeling.

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 17, 2015, 04:27:41 AM
For me personally it does not matter what comes out of NZ.
I have completely lost interest in WW1 Models currently.

What? Your models are so incredible! I hope you are still producing models of some sort. You are a true artist with modeling.

George

Copy that. :o
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 17, 2015, 04:51:30 AM

:(

We haven't lost interest in your models however. Thanks for so much inspiration. I hope your muse returns...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 17, 2015, 06:54:08 AM
Yeah - you gotta take a break sometimes - I build other era kits and have other hobbies as well - got pretty burned out myself with the AEG build so am on a break from that but probably will pick it up again given a bit of a break.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 17, 2015, 06:55:04 AM
Morane-Saulnier BB
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 17, 2015, 06:58:05 AM
That would make a very nice model.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: coyotemagic on October 17, 2015, 07:17:50 AM
Morane-Saulnier BB
From your lips to Sir Peter's ears, Richard!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Bluesfan on October 17, 2015, 08:06:17 AM
I like the idea of Michael's (Scarborough) list of 'bonkers' kits which we can't imagine WnW ever doing.
Understandably they're all big (or VERY big - my own fave ridiculously oversize suggestion would be the SSW R.VIII :) Though I have a sneaking feeling we could see one of them in the next few years.

Anyway, here's a complementary list, of smaller types which either have a cool story, or simply look cool (IMHO!) but which seem unlikely to catch WnW's interest

1. Morane L
2. Oeffag Mickl H
3. Pfalz D.VIII
4. SPAD XII
5. SSW D.IV
6. Sopwith Baby or Tabloid

But in general I'd have a beaming smile if we saw something French or A-H

Mark
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: RAGIII on October 17, 2015, 01:06:38 PM
One  the Bonkers list:
Morane- Saulnier P
RAGIII
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Doug Mace on October 17, 2015, 03:39:59 PM
And, RAG3, I was glad to see you mention the Albatros C type...an Albatros C.XII would be outstanding...a very sleek ship....but, as you say, a serious long shot.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave in Dubai on October 17, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
Yeup it is approaching that time of year again.

Hopefully WNW will announce their next release(s) in November, ie next month, as that will give enough time for modellers to place an order that they can expect to see before Christmas this year.

Last year, there was not enough time for the deliveries to arrive, even if the order had been placed promptly, allowing for the traditional increase in postal volumes being dealt with in the pre-Christmas rush.

At the end of the day, we will just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Flugzeugwerke on October 17, 2015, 09:57:39 PM
Here's my Bonkers List -- kits I don't think they'll ever make but which I would buy in a snap if they did:

1) SPAD A.2
(http://www.wwiaviation.com/drawings/spad-a2-300px.png)

2)Fokker D.II
(http://www.internetmodeler.com/2006/june/galleria/Fok_DII-KEKE-536_16.jpg)

3) Sopwith Tabloid
(http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/images/sopwith_tabloid_3_500.jpg)

4) Aviatik (Berg) D.I
(http://www.wwiaviation.com/drawings/Aviatik-Berg-DI-Ba-38-FLG1-Hptm_Karl_Sabeditsch-sn38-01-300px.png)


So bonkers they might actually do it) Zeppelin-Staaken R.VI
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/germany/zeppelin_r-6-s.gif)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on October 18, 2015, 12:40:54 AM
3 new books on Hansa Brandenburgs out/ coming. Ronny Bar painting on the cover. Mark ye! The Starstrutter is a tangible possibility.......
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on October 18, 2015, 06:20:18 AM
3 new books on Hansa Brandenburgs out/ coming. Ronny Bar painting on the cover. Mark ye! The Starstrutter is a tangible possibility.......

A Starstrutter would be really something to see but the engineering of the "spider web" would be a real challenge!

I was not familiar with the Moraine-Saulnier P, Rick...thanks for introducing me to it. Funny looking bird.....looks to me like some cobbled together a bunch of Allied and Central Powers kits from his shelf of doom.

As for the Stakken....I believe it was said that the Lord of the Rings could not be successfully transferred from a read format into a visual format and Sir Peter took that as a challenge. So, how's this:

"I don't think the Zeppelin-Stakken R. VI can be made into a 1/32 kit, Sir Peter".

(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/gauntlet_zpsxhtrcurh.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/gauntlet_zpsxhtrcurh.jpg.html)


I think that a postwar DH 9 and another postwar F 2 B are on the way, then we will have the Starstrutter in November, plus some other fighter (E V or D VI) then a big bomber (Vimy, DH 10 or Caproni?)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 18, 2015, 06:27:42 AM
My word, this wish list is getting very ambitious, there are some extremely unique and unusual aircraft being wished for and all have a place in history, we certainly would be a spoiled bunch of happy little vegemites if all our wishes came true.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: hiddeous1973 on October 18, 2015, 08:20:57 PM
Well, I am not ambitious (would love to see some of them though...)
but we have had a lot of British and German planes and it would offcourse make sense to complete the series with kits like the Dolphin, Tabloid and others.. I would like to see some of the other players.
Therefore, I would like to see something (anything really) French or Italian or maybe even Russian.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Oeli on October 19, 2015, 04:06:50 AM
Hi,

I think you're right, the other nations are hardly considered.
They have really great aircraft, where it is well worth it as a model to produce.

For example

Spad S XIII   French

Macchi M5    italia

Anatra D      Russia

kindly regards

Jörg


Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: oldalbie on October 19, 2015, 05:40:10 AM
Still in here with a fore lorn hope for a Berg D. I.  How can a plane with great hex camo, quirky outline and great individual markings get such little love from WNW?
It's a sad world indeed.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 19, 2015, 03:24:22 PM
yep berg d.1 needs a wnw kit. there are existing examples to study and the limitless colorschemes make you smack your lips.said it before.but i just want something that doesnt already have a 1/32 kit available. so if its a spad a2/a4 sounds good. if its a fokker an early d series sounds good to me. i would kinda like a hanriot hd.1 though. a s well as a starstrutter, an albatros c.1 or ant c series albie. a breguet 14  would be tits. we shall see soon.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 19, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Time is now ticking for Wingnuts to release their kits before Christmas, that is of course if they are going to release any kits. Mid November is my guess when the announcement will be made, come on BE.2 :) :) :)

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dave W on October 19, 2015, 06:09:13 PM
My take on the whole Wingnuts & Christmas release thing is this- each year they leave it so late & close to the postal cutoff dates in NZ that it becomes frustrating/ impossible to plan a Christmas kit buy that you can bank on receiving by Christmas. Irrespective of whether we make it right away or not the whole point of a Christmas surprise is/ should be something we can reasonably hope/ expect to have in our hands by Christmas.

Also by the time mid December rolls around most of us have our Christmas spending sorted out, and wives/ partners who say they will get us a Wingnuts kit for Christmas have diminishing patience if its mid December and we can't make up our damned minds ( because we still don't know what WNW are releasing).

Sometimes WNW's obsessive secrecy works against them and Christmas releases are, to me, a good example of this. Early November is the optimum time for new kits, but let's see how close to Christmas they go this year,.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on October 20, 2015, 12:33:23 AM
Here in the US mine show up on my doorstep every Christmas Eve, it's freaking glorious!  It's like being a kid again.....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Captain Slower on October 20, 2015, 10:43:20 AM
If I were a bookie, I would bet on the BE2e.  But usually the WNW winter surprise is usually something completely different.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on October 20, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
My take on the whole Wingnuts & Christmas release thing is this- each year they leave it so late & close to the postal cutoff dates in NZ that it becomes frustrating/ impossible to plan a Christmas kit buy that you can bank on receiving by Christmas. Irrespective of whether we make it right away or not the whole point of a Christmas surprise is/ should be something we can reasonably hope/ expect to have in our hands by Christmas.

Also by the time mid December rolls around most of us have our Christmas spending sorted out, and wives/ partners who say they will get us a Wingnuts kit for Christmas have diminishing patience if its mid December and we can't make up our damned minds ( because we still don't know what WNW are releasing).

Sometimes WNW's obsessive secrecy works against them and Christmas releases are, to me, a good example of this. Early November is the optimum time for new kits, but let's see how close to Christmas they go this year,.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Never a truer word said plus relying on the overstreched parcel service that shall remain nameless here in the UK has meant at least 2 WNW Xmas Presents for me arriving in January which spoils the excitement a little.

So this year I decided to do something a little different and got the Junkers J.1  ordered for me.  I know I'll have it for Xmas and I wont be lamenting not getting it when it suddenly vanishes from stock. What and if WNW releases before Xmas can wait till another day without the *Will it.... Won't it... Get here?* anguish..I'm too old for that these days  ;)

Keith
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Dirigible-Al on October 21, 2015, 03:16:10 AM
Although I do not do 1/32 I both benefit and enjoy tremendously from seeing others build in this scale because it lends itself so well to building in the extra detail seen in this era of aircraft. So here is my wish list from a spectator's point of view:

Short 184 (or any Short for that matter)
Gotha W.D.14
Lhoner L
Handley Page 'Bloody Paralyser'

I think if they do the last one I might not end up being a spectator.
Alan.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 21, 2015, 07:09:42 AM
The Handley Page would certainly be an awesome kit, one would end up in my stash for sure.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 21, 2015, 07:15:35 AM
The Handley Page would certainly be an awesome kit, one would end up in my stash for sure.

Des.

Indeed! But surely that BE 2 is chugging its way in our direction?

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 21, 2015, 07:25:09 AM
One of my favorite and most wanted kits Nigel, it would mean that all my dreams will have come true if Wingnuts release the BE.2 before Christmas, maybe if I wish just that little bit harder and just keep repeating  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 21, 2015, 07:41:26 AM
One of my favorite and most wanted kits Nigel, it would mean that all my dreams will have come true if Wingnuts release the BE.2 before Christmas, maybe if I wish just that little bit harder and just keep repeating  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2  BE.2

Des.


Then we're repeating the same mantra on opposite sides of the globe, Des.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 22, 2015, 06:05:45 AM
Which be2 variant? As u know they are quite different .I like be2a or be2e
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 22, 2015, 06:09:28 AM
Sorry, but if Peter Jackson brings out a Be.2 I'm on a plane to NZ to give him a thoroughly good ticking off!
There can only be one and it ain't got 2 in the title  ;D

3wingsonHigh
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 22, 2015, 10:18:11 PM
you really want that dr.1 eh bobbo. would be nice to see a wnw treatment on a triplane.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: zavod44 on October 22, 2015, 11:24:14 PM
I might order two out of the shoot!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: jknaus on October 22, 2015, 11:54:15 PM
Well with all the reading I have done lately I have to say I really want a Taube. And I really want one of those fugly Henrey Farmen birds. I'll probably get anything though.
I've been so hooked by WWI that I would even (gasp) consider trying to scratch build.
James
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 23, 2015, 02:46:59 AM
you really want that dr.1 eh bobbo. would be nice to see a wnw treatment on a triplane.

WnW has already done a tripe. Not the DR.1, but...
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: PrzemoL on October 23, 2015, 03:55:05 AM
you really want that dr.1 eh bobbo. would be nice to see a wnw treatment on a triplane.

WnW has already done a tripe. Not the DR.1, but...
And that will suffice, IMHO!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 23, 2015, 07:24:59 AM
I think I may have mentioned this once or twice before -  A BE.2 please  :) :) ;)  preferably a BE.2a

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 23, 2015, 07:28:29 AM
Des,
What did you want? A DR.1? An Albie C.XIII? ;)

George
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 27, 2015, 03:39:13 PM
News on the Wingnuts website, they have now listed the Christmas post cut-off dates, must be getting close to releasing their Christmas surprise/s.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 27, 2015, 04:27:59 PM
Yes, Des, I can feel it too..!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: macsporran on October 27, 2015, 05:01:10 PM
News on the Wingnuts website, they have now listed the Christmas post cut-off dates, must be getting close to releasing their Christmas surprise/s.

Des.

....... so somebody must be alive and well there. I thought they'd shut up shop and gone home! S
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 27, 2015, 05:38:19 PM
No, no, no, they surely are all busy working on the bunch of new releases due out for Christmas!!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 27, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
Perhaps the biggest surprise will be no surprise at all!

Dr1eaming of three
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 27, 2015, 07:04:24 PM
Aah, c'mon, Bob! I know, you want it too!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Nigel Jackson on October 27, 2015, 10:41:13 PM
Hello All

With the last posting date for the rest of the world set at 4 December, my guess would be something released in the last week of November.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: ermeio on October 28, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
something big,
very big... i'd say huge
else, what we'd spared our money for?
😀😀
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: petrov27 on October 28, 2015, 06:57:33 AM
actually one here hoping it is not a monster kit this year - last year with the Felix and AEG I am pretty full of big kits for awhile...

 Hoping for single seater or maybe a small two seater (Halb ClII please....)
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 28, 2015, 07:10:28 AM
A collection of single seat and two-seater aircraft  would be a wonderful Christmas present.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: rhwinter on October 28, 2015, 07:15:17 AM
A collection of single seat and two-seater aircraft  would be a wonderful Christmas present.
Des.
Well, Des, that's it! I think we're decided now and should pass our decision over to Sir Peter and the WnW-staff soon.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Thumbs up on October 28, 2015, 09:09:16 PM
Taube please.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: kornbeef on October 28, 2015, 09:59:34 PM
I've decided I's quite like a Junkers D,1 too if he could just squeeze one out  ;D

Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Chuckt5 on October 29, 2015, 04:51:49 AM
Agreed (about a Junker's D.I).

I would love to see one. I think it would be a great intro kit for those who want to enter the WW1 waters but are scared off by the rigging and two wings.

Not to mention I think it looks pretty cool!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: drdave on October 29, 2015, 06:22:14 AM
Hmm looks like Ronny Bar has been doing some BE2c profiles.....
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: JastaB on October 30, 2015, 05:47:14 AM
I'm still hoping for that 1/32 Halberstadt CL.II!!!
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: Des on October 30, 2015, 06:17:01 AM
I'm tipping mid November for a release, only a few weeks to go.

Des.
Title: Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 30, 2015, 06:41:06 AM
I've got a funny feeling... there won't be a Christmas release!
How funny is that!?

vB