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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on September 12, 2020, 08:31:12 AM
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So with the SPADS out of the way I am adding another Dual Build. I will be doing Kirschsteins Jasta 6 Striped Optical Illusion and a more obscure Jasta 4 DR1. Not sure which one will be which at this stage. By the way I will still be working on the CSM Nieuport and Roden Pfalz also ::) After Market stuff includes Aviattic PE, Cowling, and Seat, Eduard and Part PE, and finally a WNW URII engine!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0sp715/119204704-3965549986805377-3221863464652195214-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvnDfcZ6/119218340-3965550080138701-8026499578784698629-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/857hmnyK/119363119-3965550146805361-3846970777085195543-n.jpg)
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I gotta tell ya Rick: You're a modeling machine. Looking forward to seeing these two unfold under your skillful hands. Gonna be a fun pair for sure.
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Great to have another MENG build along Rick!
Will be interesting to see how they compare.. is there a big difference from what you see in the boxes?
Guy
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Oooohhh.....nice project Rick. Will be interesting to see a side by side comparison. Regards, Pete in RI
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I've been looking forward to a comparison like this Rick! In yourvery capable hands itwill be a lot of fun, interesting and a learning experience.... Regards, Marc.
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I gotta tell ya Rick: You're a modeling machine. Looking forward to seeing these two unfold under your skillful hands. Gonna be a fun pair for sure.
Basically waht Mark said , you're a building machine . Tagging along for the ride ! :)
Terri
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I am also seated, professor.
Thanks.
Gene K
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Straight at it again! No risk that you lose any of your modelling skills due to inactivity!
/Fredrik
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Following with keen interest Rick. Should be a ton of fun putting these kits together in tandem.
Cheers,
Gary
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Thanks Guys and Gal! I will need a day or two to do a MAJOR Desk and Model room cleaning ::)
RAGIII
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Two more! How do you do it Rick? I have difficulties enough building one model at a time, not four!
I will still tag along though if you do not mind - some of your techniques are well worth stealing er borrowing.
Stephen.
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You need it complicated? ???
At first three SPADs at once, then Nieuport and Pfalz and now in parallel two Dr.I ?
Cool! 8)
I'm sure you will have a lot of fun and we will see a nice result.
Have fun with this new project!
Frank
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Two more! How do you do it Rick? I have difficulties enough building one model at a time, not four!
I will still tag along though if you do not mind - some of your techniques are well worth stealing er borrowing.
Stephen.
Really no secret here. It takes Me four times as long as one 8) I am about halfway through MY cleaning session, still have the Desk to do !
RAGIII
You need it complicated? ???
At first three SPADs at once, then Nieuport and Pfalz and now in parallel two Dr.I ?
Cool! 8)
I'm sure you will have a lot of fun and we will see a nice result.
Have fun with this new project!
Frank
In an abstract way after finishing the SPADS and adding these two I am still down one from Five to Four ::)
RAGIII
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So, I have started cleaning up some of the Major components and comparing to drawings. I am waiting for Ray to approve My request to use some WS drawings with the parts overlaid so today I will just post some comparison photos of the Major parts. First the Reference I am using:
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzVf8rkD/119523242-3974842889209420-6173320520420188373-o.jpg)
The wings: Roden parts on Top.
(https://i.postimg.cc/522TDwkL/119527905-3974736505886725-2110204008467675941-n.jpg)
Next the tail surfaces, rudder, and axle wing. Roden parts on the left other than the Aileron which has the Roden Part on the bottom:
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0w52Gp0/119576546-3974736739220035-4164227996768076477-n.jpg)
More close ups of the wings: Meng above Roden.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1phQcW7/119587929-3974736592553383-172973549952299379-n.jpg)
Lower wings: Meng above Roden.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq1Q9XYx/119630094-3974736682553374-8502006955961403282-o.jpg)
Right and left fuselage Halves. Roden on the top for each:
(https://i.postimg.cc/SsCvcVJF/119676232-3974736389220070-371544686644981072-n.jpg)
Obviously the Meng parts are more detailed. Both kits Match the Drawings in 1/32nd scale featured in Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln by GvW and Windsock, with a couple of exceptions on the Roden kit.
RAGIII
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Nice comparison of the two kits Rick :)
Terri
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Nice comparison of the two kits Rick :)
Terri
Thanks Terri.
I have received permission from Ray Rimell to use the 1/32nd scale drawings from the Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln book in order to show the relative differences in the two kits. All drawings are copyright of Albatros Publications and should not be shared without permission.
RAGIII
Roden kit upper and Mid wing, Tail and elevator. The elevator is slightly off shape. ( Note that the wing tips have not been attached!
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rgpJ1h5/119634729-3978633555497020-5139932805807605748-n.jpg)
Same parts from the Meng kit:
(https://i.postimg.cc/8C9WsnsD/119609375-3978633825496993-7265023188465220482-n.jpg)
The left fuselage from Roden. ( The fuselage is not over long as it "Appears" in the photo. My Lousy photography is responsible)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7hVf1BP5/119647760-3978635872163455-9151296344184928309-o.jpg)
The Left Fuselage from Meng. ( Same note on the length as before!
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCyLyy6g/119640478-3978634942163548-8883348325918974050-o.jpg)
The Roden Rudder:
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvGKcyQB/119704490-3978635508830158-6452348483692078086-n.jpg)
Resin rudder from Encore:
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7h6fXwF/119665492-3978635618830147-2093470275472454440-n.jpg)
The Meng Rudder:
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkgxnBB5/119650006-3978635765496799-2110091109933152205-n.jpg)
Roden Axle wing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyZV94s4/119654720-3978634202163622-7834177661514346926-n.jpg)
Finally, the Meng Axle wing:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wxcydB59/119770393-3978634115496964-3864901706649511515-n.jpg)
I want to emphasize that these were hasty photos and the ultimate comparison will be forthcoming in the Albatros Publications book on building the Fokker DR1 ! This is just to give a general idea of the differences.
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Over all there really isn't much of a difference at all . A few small things which should be easy fixes if one chooses to do so .
Terri
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Over all there really isn't much of a difference at all . A few small things which should be easy fixes if one chooses to do so .
Terri
Shape wise that is certainly true although I have been told there is a significant difference in the circumference of the cowl and forward fuselage. Detail wise the Meng kit is far and away superior. That being said, the Roden kit can be built to a high standard as Many of our Forum Members have shown!
RAGIII
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If you need anything cutting, don't be shy to ask.
Good luck!
vB :)
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I'm following along on this one, Rick. As you know, I have built a Roden Dr.1 and have a Meng Dr.1 in the stash. This is the first modeling subject I have ever bought two of.
I would bet the rudder curvature ended up different on every DR.1 made, as well as on every drawing made, as curves like that (changing radius) are very difficult to reproduce exactly.
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If you need anything cutting, don't be shy to ask.
Good luck!
vB :)
Thanks Bob. I know I will need to order some Strippers and will let you know if any "Special" masks become necessary 8)
RAGIII
I'm following along on this one, Rick. As you know, I have built a Roden Dr.1 and have a Meng Dr.1 in the stash. This is the first modeling subject I have ever bought two of.
I would bet the rudder curvature ended up different on every DR.1 made, as well as on every drawing made, as curves like that (changing radius) are very difficult to reproduce exactly.
I am of course Familiar with your Roden DR1 build. I am sure you will find the Meng kit to be a joy to build. This will be MY 5th Roden DR1 build so My plan is to correct some of the things I just let go by with the other 4 ::) Now that I have looked the parts over I plan to really start building soon!
RAGIII
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Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.
Jeroen
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Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.
Jeroen
You are correct about the Roden rudder being slightly out of alignment. For My build I will use the Encore resin rudder as it is close but a bit oversized so can be carved to a more correct shape.
RAGIII
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Some very useful comparative notes here Rick which I am usre many people are going to find very useful.
Stephen.
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Errr.....Richard, does your wife know you will be ordering some strippers? Aviattic makes an accurate rudder. Regards, Pete in RI
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Quite surprised how decent the Roden kit looks. To be fair I haven’t actually made a Roden kit yet! Be interesting to see how the fit compares.
Guy
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Great job on the side by side comparison Amigo. Look forward to the builds. have you decided on the schemes ?
Ed
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Some very useful comparative notes here Rick which I am usre many people are going to find very useful.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen.
RAGIII
Errr.....Richard, does your wife know you will be ordering some strippers? Aviattic makes an accurate rudder. Regards, Pete in RI
Shhhh 8) As for the Aviattic Rudder I am aware. I just don't have the funds to do all I might like. The Encore rudder will look fine when I am done, At least I hope ;D
RAGIII
Quite surprised how decent the Roden kit looks. To be fair I haven’t actually made a Roden kit yet! Be interesting to see how the fit compares.
Guy
Roden makes basically Good Kits. Only the introduction of WNW made them look substandard. Had WNW never appeared Roden would have been the standard of 1/32nd scale WW1 and we would have been fine with the kits! JMHO.
RAGIII
Great job on the side by side comparison Amigo. Look forward to the builds. have you decided on the schemes ?
Ed
Thanks Amigo, I hope to start soon on actually building. I sort of got involved in My other Dual build today :o By the way, yes I have decided on schemes. I will do the Meng kit as Kirschsteins Stripey Jasta 6 bird and the Roden will be a Jasta 4 DR1 with a white- black- white- black-white sash on the fuselage, and blue tail, cowling, and struts.
RAGIII
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Interesting and thorough comparisons, so far Rick! We are going on a great journey here... I'm very tempted to do the same kind of thing.... There are quite a few problems with the Roden kit I will definitely ignore! Regards, Marc.
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Interesting and thorough comparisons, so far Rick! We are going on a great journey here... I'm very tempted to do the same kind of thing.... There are quite a few problems with the Roden kit I will definitely ignore! Regards, Marc.
Thanks for the comments. I am going to attempt to fix "Most" of the issues....we shall see 8)
RAGIII
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Following this with interest!
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Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.
Jeroen
You are correct about the Roden rudder being slightly out of alignment. For My build I will use the Encore resin rudder as it is close but a bit oversized so can be carved to a more correct shape.
RAGIII
At least my eyes aren't fooling me ;D I do kind of wonder how it looks when aligned with the fuselage -it would seem that lower curve would match up a bit better.
I'm following with interest as well :)
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So, you now have two dual builds going?? How do you keep things organized?? I cannot wait to see your results.
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So, you now have two dual builds going?? How do you keep things organized?? I cannot wait to see your results.
Yes, two dual builds. Today I will be doing some cleaning up if parts and preliminary painting on this one...I Hope 8) As for organization, What is that ? ;D
RAGIII
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Nice comparison Rick: As said, Roden makes basically a good kit. I have built two the DR.i's and the last one I enjoyed building. Some small challenges but an OOB build that turned out better than I thought it would. It compares favorably to the MENG kit or the Meng Kit compares favorably with the Roden Kit! I will be watching along as you go through the build. I am going to finish a D.VII I started back in Wisconsin then hit the Hobby Craft DR.I. I don't think I have ever seen one done or build log on it. Should be fun.
As Bruno Stackle would say: "Model on"!
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Another fascinating project, Rick. And like the others said a very helpful comparision between the two kits. I am keen on seeing both build up :)
Andreas
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Nice comparison Rick: As said, Roden makes basically a good kit. I have built two the DR.i's and the last one I enjoyed building. Some small challenges but an OOB build that turned out better than I thought it would. It compares favorably to the MENG kit or the Meng Kit compares favorably with the Roden Kit! I will be watching along as you go through the build. I am going to finish a D.VII I started back in Wisconsin then hit the Hobby Craft DR.I. I don't think I have ever seen one done or build log on it. Should be fun.
As Bruno Stackle would say: "Model on"!
Thanks Mark. This will be MY 5th Roden DR1. I am really looking forward to seeing you tackle the Hobby Craft kit. Sometime today I will post a couple of update photos on the comparison.
RAGIII
Another fascinating project, Rick. And like the others said a very helpful comparision between the two kits. I am keen on seeing both build up :)
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. I made some small progress yesterday. I did get an answer from Ray Rimell reference the axle wing for DR1 586/17. It will use the narrower chord version so I will try to adapt the full chord version to the Roden kit. Saves a lot of Sanding Time 8)
RAGIII
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Did Ray give any hint on when his book will be ready? Regards, Pete in RI
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Did Ray give any hint on when his book will be ready? Regards, Pete in RI
Sorry, but No. On the other hand his build of the F1 seems to be progressing quickly on FB so we can hope it is the last one to be documented ;D
RAGIII
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So a bit of progress. First the Roden rudder correctly positioned on the Drawing.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nzbhbj2G/120332934-4016050968421945-5501977659651569004-n.jpg)
Thanks to Forum Member Pete the Aviattic Rudder:
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgnrj6Fq/120245650-4016051051755270-5792393453694094554-n.jpg)
The Part PE frets:
(https://i.postimg.cc/43hxSb63/120200128-4016051141755261-250457275886344613-n.jpg)
Now for the progress. I have begun basic painting of both interiors. I also added the fabrick portion above the bulkhead on the Roden kit using sheet styrene.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zBCXJzPZ/120292141-4016051745088534-857977067295015064-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXqrhdVP/120314503-4016051675088541-1030527014401190312-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XMmqWQv/120346168-4016051575088551-5375617192019762004-n.jpg)
RAGIII
PS: The triangular framework on the Roden kit is from the Eduard PE set. Still lots to do and touch up 8)
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RAGIII,
Thanks for demonstrating the short comings of the Roden kit. I've got a few of those in the stash so your build will serve as a great tutorial.
Kevin
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Nice start, there Rick! Not sure whether that fabric extension above the rear cockpit bulkhead will be at all visible though! I'm going to leave it off if it doesn't show! I am following with interest! Regards, Marc
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RAGIII,
Thanks for demonstrating the short comings of the Roden kit. I've got a few of those in the stash so your build will serve as a great tutorial.
Kevin
Thanks for the comment Kevin. I hope in the end rather than the shortcomings of the Roden kit we will see the Possibilities ;D
RAGIII
Nice start, there Rick! Not sure whether that fabric extension above the rear cockpit bulkhead will be at all visible though! I'm going to leave it off if it doesn't show! I am following with interest! Regards, Marc
Thanks Marc. This is the first time I have bothered to add that fabric extension. We shall see how it goes ::)
RAGIII
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Nice to see some paint laid down , both are starting to shape up with their inners excellently . :)
Terri
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Nice to see some paint laid down , both are starting to shape up with their inners excellently . :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I did just a Tad more today. I am going with Richard Alexander's theory on the red/brown primer 8) May or May not be valid but it will be different from MY other builds!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/90Z4nDkv/120356681-4018565601503815-6264327379939532022-o.jpg)
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More progress:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/c187R4sS/120260309-4019029678124074-9151148481186834648-n.jpg)
and the Roden kit: I see from the photo I have some touch up needed on the frame. I went with Valejo German Dark Grey instead of black to reduce the starkness.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sg2RLLH3/120347755-4019029844790724-3849848998363726068-n.jpg)
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Framing looks good in place on both . :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o
Terri
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Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI
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Framing looks good in place on both . :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o
Terri
The framing is not glued on either kit but thanks, I think they are looking pretty good.
RAGIII
Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI
Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII
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Nice, Rick! Your multi-builds are very impressive! Wish I had your stamina.
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Nice, Rick! Your multi-builds are very impressive! Wish I had your stamina.
Thanks Gaz!
RAGIII
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Nice paint, Rick.
Do I understand correctly that the Dr.1s have that huge T handle on the right side of the cockpit for the pump to pressurize the fuel tank?
Any pictures of the real thing you can post?
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Nice paint, Rick.
Do I understand correctly that the Dr.1s have that huge T handle on the right side of the cockpit for the pump to pressurize the fuel tank?
Any pictures of the real thing you can post?
I don't think it is a "Pump' to pressurize. My understanding is the Cross member forming the T is actually a valve handle. It was connected to the throttle and or could be operated manually, and also used like a blip switch. There was a Video on FB a few weeks ago showing it in operation on one of the Replicas. I know it is visible in the photo of the crash of 591/17. I will check for more images. By the way, I think the one in the kit is somewhat oversized but I am not going to change it on this one 8) IIRC there was no need for a Pressurization pump like on Mercedes and other inline engine powered aircraft. (I honestly don't remember why)
RAGIII
PS: Here is a Link to Lloyds Fokker DR1 website showing the aforementioned 591/17
http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Dr1-591-17%20crach.jpg
PPS: Looking at the photo again, I am Very Tempted to cut away what is supplied in the kit and replace with My own ::)
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I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.
Cheers Fredrik
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I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.
Cheers Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I do Make silly/simple mistakes! I was not satisfied with the bulkhead using the PE part from Part PE... ::) I had a surplus bulkhead from an old kit so I proceeded to do it myself with stitching from wire. I added a lot of oil weathering as this one represents a former Jasta 11 bird handed down to Jasta 4. THe New one is on the right of the photo.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgddDYfm/120521676-4025874390772936-1880010257656097471-o-1.jpg)
and just the two I will use: Meng and Roden Modified:Touch up required :(
(https://i.postimg.cc/v8kywZnD/120490188-4026069250753450-996096262480447806-o.jpg)
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Nicely done, Rick!
vB :)
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Nicely done, Rick!
vB :)
Thanks Bob. I hope to get a lot more done today 8)
RAGIII
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Framing looks good in place on both . :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o
Terri
The framing is not glued on either kit but thanks, I think they are looking pretty good.
RAGIII
Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI
Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII
Does make for a nice contrast!
Ed
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Looks good!
Thanks also for new picture of the Roden rudder on the drawing, I think I'll sand the attachment part at a slight angle to even out the incorrect looking curves on the forward and lower parts and live with it. Thanks again, I noted this in my instructions when I get to mine one day...
Jeroen
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Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI
Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII
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Does make for a nice contrast!
Ed
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Yes it does Amigo. Not 100% convinced as to accuracy. My Only real misgiving is that Many serious researchers viewed the photos that Richard Alexander viewed and none seem to have come to the conclusion of red primer. Of course there May be More I don't know about. As Ray Rimell seems to be on board with the conclusion I figured I would roll with it 8)
RAGIII
Looks good!
Thanks also for new picture of the Roden rudder on the drawing, I think I'll sand the attachment part at a slight angle to even out the incorrect looking curves on the forward and lower parts and live with it. Thanks again, I noted this in my instructions when I get to mine one day...
Jeroen
Thanks Jeroen! Yes if using the kit rudder an angled cut will help. Perhaps why I originally lined things up the way I did.
RAGIII
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Wow awesome work, following with interest
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Wow awesome work, following with interest
Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
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I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.
Cheers Fredrik
Here is one for You Fredrik :o
First I took the Gear legs from a scrapped Roden DR1 and carved them to fit the Meng Axle wing. I am sure they will need tweaking but the results are promising!
(https://i.postimg.cc/MK3xXL7v/120250901-248948906535318-1023463626824792134-n.jpg)
Next is the Silly Mistake. I took the "Unused" Control stick from the Meng kit and Modified it to the Standard type.Attached it to the Roden floor with No problem. It was then that I realized that the "Unused" stick is the Late Type that probably was correct for 586/17! All I really needed to do was use it on the Meng kit and the one called for in the instructions on the Roden. Oh Well Not much I can do now ::)
RAGIII
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The end of todays session:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/VL33p0Xk/120674366-4032489113444797-5283791995573100676-n.jpg)
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Looks great Rick!
Guy
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Looks great Rick!
Guy
Thanks Guy!
RAGIII
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Here is one for You Fredrik :o
[..] Silly Mistake. I took the "Unused" Control stick from the Meng kit and Modified it to the Standard type.Attached it to the Roden floor with No problem. It was then that I realized that the "Unused" stick is the Late Type that probably was correct for 586/17! All I really needed to do was use it on the Meng kit and the one called for in the instructions on the Roden. Oh Well Not much I can do now ::)
RAGIII
Feels good to know that you too end up there from time to time... ;D
Good that it was a relatively simple mistake and correctable.
/Fredrik
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You are making pretty good progress on these Rick , looking very excellent :)
Terri
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Nice, Rick! Your multi-builds are very impressive! Wish I had your stamina.
SO DO I!!!!
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Great dual build Rick: a really interesting comparison of these two kits
Antonio
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You are making pretty good progress on these Rick , looking very excellent :)
Terri
Thanks Terri!
RAGIII
Nice, Rick! Your multi-builds are very impressive! Wish I had your stamina.
SO DO I!!!!
;-)
Great dual build Rick: a really interesting comparison of these two kits
Antonio
8)
RAGIII
A very Small update: I was Talking to Kreston about using the Meng tailplane. Well Since I had the F1 tail handy I started cutting it down to match the Roden kit. Not much work at all and does look better than Rodens. To make it a perfect fit for the Roden Elevators I would need to remove the section penciled in on the Meng tail and add about 5 thou. to each end. I am debating about that part.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZYqnZnq/120707592-381439646355197-8761471063039511072-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1z8Pb7dT/120810515-326641298430839-8830253355216967875-n-1.jpg)
and this is the scheme for the Roden kit: The one on the bottom ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/HnDpw0BN/120357190-473317690292181-5161306506750109406-n.jpg)
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RAGIII,
Thanks for providing the information about cross kitting the extra parts from the Meng kit.
That color scheme will look fabulous. I assume the information is from Americal-Gryphon.
Thanks again,
Kevin
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RAGIII,
Thanks for providing the information about cross kitting the extra parts from the Meng kit.
That color scheme will look fabulous. I assume the information is from Americal-Gryphon.
Thanks again,
Kevin
You are welcome and yes, AG. It is also seen in Photo J4/5 in Greg van Wyngardens Albatros Publications Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln book.
RAGIII
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I'm getting a kind of dejavue feeling with your Fokker builds Rick, good show!
Kent
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I'm getting a kind of dejavue feeling with your Fokker builds Rick, good show!
Kent
Thanks Kent! Your Jasta 11 lineup was quite inspirational! By the way, I must say I am pleased to see all of the other Roden builds going on here. Hopefully this will encourage Roden even more than the Poll!
RAGIII
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'My sentiments exactly' Rick - We have to fire up under Roden, to bring out some of the kits we watched disappear in the horizon, not so long ago!
At least to the point were we get the B.e.2c!!!!!
Kent
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'My sentiments exactly' Rick - We have to fire up under Roden, to bring out some of the kits we watched disappear in the horizon, not so long ago!
At least to the point were we get the B.e.2c!!!!!
Kent
For Me it would be a BE12, or SE5. 8) One more VERY SMALL UPDATE: I decided it would be easier and closer to the drawings to just cut New Elevators from styrene sheet so here is the rough result:
RAGIII
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This is where I am as of the end of todays session:
RAGIII
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one more plus Voss:
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I am working on the Voss figure in the back for the Corona GB.
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RAGIII,
That’s a nice bit of progress you’ve made. They’re looking great.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
That’s a nice bit of progress you’ve made. They’re looking great.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I will start to detail and rig tomorrow.
RAGIII
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Really like the work you are doing on the Roden kit and that so far is excellent . Tail unit is looking great so far and I look forward on it's progress .
Terri
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I go away for a few days and come back to this!!! Great work and proof the Roden is still in the ballpark!!!
Steve
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Really like the work you are doing on the Roden kit and that so far is excellent . Tail unit is looking great so far and I look forward on it's progress .
Terri
Thanks Terri!
RAGIII
I go away for a few days and come back to this!!! Great work and proof the Roden is still in the ballpark!!!
Steve
Thanks for looking in and the comment Steve!
RAGIII
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Both kits are looking fantastic!!!
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Both kits are looking fantastic!!!
Thanks!
RAGIII
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Great work, Rick - you're making excellent progress.
Cheers,
Gary
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Awesome work there, Rick! And very helpful for me! Regards, Marc
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You made a good progress over the last weeks! Both will look nice at the end.
Reminds me of a half finished Eduard Dr.I in red ::) Should restart that project one day ...
Cheers,
Frank
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Great work, Rick - you're making excellent progress.
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks Gary!
RAGIII
Awesome work there, Rick! And very helpful for me! Regards, Marc
Thanks Marc. Your DR1 is looking spiffy!
RAGIII
You made a good progress over the last weeks! Both will look nice at the end.
Reminds me of a half finished Eduard Dr.I in red ::) Should restart that project one day ...
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank! I would love to see anything you choose to revive as your builds are always Superb!
RAGIII
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I have not spent much time at the bench so just a quick update. Worked on the Roden upper wing using a Pounce wheel and gently bent the Meng Elevator to an articulated position.
RAGIII
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I made a little more orogress today: Next up control and bracing wires then final detail painting.
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Might not have the time Rick , but your still able to show us some excellent progress .
Terri
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Great looking work! It'll be a fairly busy cockpit when finished.
/Fredrik
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Might not have the time Rick , but your still able to show us some excellent progress .
Terri
Thanks Terri. I finally got to the bench yesterday ;D
RAGIII
Great looking work! It'll be a fairly busy cockpit when finished.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik. Yes the cockpit still has a few items left and it is sort of busy. Still debatiing about a map pouch in the Roden kit ::)
RAGIII
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Just catching up Rick. You have come on a long way since I last dropped in and my you have some super detail in those cockpits. Shame to cover them up!
Stephen.
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Just catching up Rick. You have come on a long way since I last dropped in and my you have some super detail in those cockpits. Shame to cover them up!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen and the next photos will show just how much gets covered ;D
RAGIII
So today I finished(except for the grips on the control column) the Roden interior. Although they don't show up in the photos control wires are present. First photo shows a test fit then I progressed to gluing it all together.
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and what will be seen 8)
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Last one for today: I have cleaned up the filled seam:
RAGIII
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You had a good day in front of bench ! :)
Terri
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Great work. Will be interested to see the middle wing group in on the Mengnuts. Was the front cockpit attachment broken? About half seem to be turning us that way. Daz
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You had a good day in front of bench ! :)
Terri
Yep, if today's session goes as well as yesterday the Meng kit will be closed up also 8)
RAGIII
Great work. Will be interested to see the middle wing group in on the Mengnuts. Was the front cockpit attachment broken? About half seem to be turning us that way. Daz
Thanks! Mine was totally intact!
RAGIII
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Looking sharp!
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Looking very good Rick, even if it will not be very clear!
Stephen.
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Looking sharp!
Thanks Jeroen!
RAGIII
Looking very good Rick, even if it will not be very clear!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Your continued support is appreciated! As are all of the others!!!!
RAGIII
So todays mission was getting the Meng kit in line with the Roden build.....Mission accomplished ;D
RAGIII
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Looks awesome, Rick. I really love what you are doing with these builds!
Dan
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Moving along !!!
Ed
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Looks awesome, Rick. I really love what you are doing with these builds!
Dan
Thanks Dan! I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII
Moving along !!!
Ed
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Thanks Amigo! Here is the last from today. Elevators added to the Modified Meng F1 tail on the Roden kit. I also used the Aviattic elevator control horns.
RAGIII
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So I lied as usual: Two More: I have used the Meng PE access hatch on the right fuselage and the Aviattic on the left for the Roden kit:
RAGIII
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How do you say, "Mix and Match" in German?
Great work Rick. I really like how you use the different parts where they are needed regardless where they came from. Real modeling as opposed to mere assembling.
sp
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Sp , in German it would be ....Mischen und Anpassen !
Terri
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How do you say, "Mix and Match" in German?
Great work Rick. I really like how you use the different parts where they are needed regardless where they came from. Real modeling as opposed to mere assembling.
sp
Thanks SP! The Myriad of extra parts from Meng and all of the PE I collected over the years are coming in Handy. Also got a few gifted parts from Pete.
RAGIII
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Excellent work, Rick!
Keep going...
Cheers,
Von B ;)
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Excellent work, Rick!
Keep going...
Cheers,
Von B ;)
Thanks Bob!
I have added the Aviattic PE for the lower fuselage, access hatch and firewall. I wasn't certain if the angled piece from the firewall should be under or over the lower fuselage portion so just went for it. If it is wrong :-X
RAGIII
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I also finished "Nailing" all of the ribs on the other two wings.
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PS: Sometimes you just have to go back and do it Right:
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RAGIII,
Looks like your "Walking Point" on this one with the use of the Aviattic photo-etch. I have them but, as yet, haven't seen them used by anyone.
These build are coming together fast.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
Looks like your "Walking Point" on this one with the use of the Aviattic photo-etch. I have them but, as yet, haven't seen them used by anyone.
These build are coming together fast.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I stared at the photo of the original installation for about 5 minutes then went to the Model Room and changed things to the correct configuration. It went better than I thought it would 8)
RAGIII
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Great work with wings correction and the many details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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These really are building quickly. I too am pleased that you corrected your error - I look to you for very high standards!
Stephen.
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Great work with wings correction and the many details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks for looking in and commenting Giuseppe!
RAGIII
These really are building quickly. I too am pleased that you corrected your error - I look to you for very high standards!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! Although My Standards aren't as High as some others I do Have Some ::)
RAGIII
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Great work! So glad you're ahead of me on this, Rick! Learning and looking for solutions! Regards, Marc
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Great work! So glad you're ahead of me on this, Rick! Learning and looking for solutions! Regards, Marc
Thanks Marc, Like I said on your build sharing and helping is Why I Post. Just for giggles here is a link to a review I did for Internet Modeler when the kit was released. Built almost OOB. 8)
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/october/aviation/Roden_DrI.php
PS: Kind of funny in that I have learned a lot more since then due to This Forum and more books available!
RAGIII
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I spent several hours at the bench today with small amounts of progress ::) I have added PE from the Part set for the underside stitching and along the cockpit sides.
RAGIII
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RAGIII,
Looks like it has been a productive day for you. Looking good.
Kevin
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That is some nice progress made Rick , looking good !
Terri
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Looking nice -by the time there's paint on them it'll be hard to well which is which! :)
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RAGIII,
Looks like it has been a productive day for you. Looking good.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin!
RAGIII
That is some nice progress made Rick , looking good !
Terri
Thanks Terri!
RAGIII
Looking nice -by the time there's paint on them it'll be hard to well which is which! :)
Thanks Jeroen! I hope you are correct and they are at least close to the same ;D
RAGIII
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Every little step counts! Looking good!
/Fredrik
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Every little step counts! Looking good!
/Fredrik
I did a little filling and sanding today and yesterday. Not anything worth taking photos 8) Thanks for looking in!
RAGIII
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Photos or not, the stitching adds a really nice touch of fine detail.
Stephen.
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Photos or not, the stitching adds a really nice touch of fine detail.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I actually prefer the PE to the way Meng/wnw does their stitching. I didn't get a very good fit on mine :-[
RAGIII
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Reference My previous post I had screwed up so bad that I sanded all of the stitching detail off and am using stitching from Archer.
RAGIII
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Stitches look good!
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Can't even tell , looks really good Rick :)
Terri
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I couldn't see anything wrong with the other stitching but; this looks quite good. I will have to try those Archer Decals. I like what I have seen with Nails and now the stitching. Very nice Rick.
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Looks great Rick, Archer decals have come in handy for me many times, a great product.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Stitches look good!
Thanks for commenting!
RAGIII
Can't even tell , looks really good Rick :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. Had you seen the installation of the kit part you could tell for sure :o
RAGIII
I couldn't see anything wrong with the other stitching but; this looks quite good. I will have to try those Archer Decals. I like what I have seen with Nails and now the stitching. Very nice Rick.
Thanks Mark. You are probably thinking of the PE on the Roden Kit. That is still in place. It was the Stitching on the Meng kit that I replaced ;D I am glad I remembered I had the Archers Fine Transfers sheet stored in a Roden SPAD kit!
RAGIII
Looks great Rick, Archer decals have come in handy for me many times, a great product.
Cheers,
Dave.
Thanks Dave! The Decals are indeed Handy!
RAGIII
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You made an impressive progress since my last visit.
I always find triplanes a bit more time-consuming, because there is more to mask and paint.
Cheers,
Frank
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You made an impressive progress since my last visit.
I always find triplanes a bit more time-consuming, because there is more to mask and paint.
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank! Tomorrow I hope to lay down some paint on the fuselage and wings 8)
RAGIII
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So todays session, spray the CDL base for the streaking. I used Tamiya paint and am pleased overall with the result. The photos revealed a seam on the Roden upper fuselage that I will need to deal with.
RAGIII
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and the results of the Archer Stitching:
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RAGIII,
The fun never stops on your work bench. Great to see your progress.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
The fun never stops on your work bench. Great to see your progress.
Kevin
THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos ;D
RAGIII
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THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos ;D
RAGIII
Exciting! I'm looking forward to tomorrow, but results so far looks great.
/Fredrik
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Looking forward to the streaking and no ...not you ! I mean the Fokkers ;)
Terri
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THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos ;D
RAGIII
Exciting! I'm looking forward to tomorrow, but results so far looks great.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! It has been a few days now but I might be able to post the photos later. I am actually still deciding if I succeeded or failed at what I was going for ::)
RAGIII
Looking forward to the streaking and no ...not you ! I mean the Fokkers ;)
Like I just wrote to Fredrik, Perhaps today!
RAGIII
Terri
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SO, Just to remind everyone I am doing the Roden DR1 as a Jasta 4 DR1 that was "Handed Down" from Jasta11. It is visible in a distant view in a photo in GvW/Albatros Publications Fokker DR1 Jadgstaffeln book. In the photo there is not a large amount of variation so My goal is to depict a well worn and somewhat faded/blended streaking. Perhaps even touch up paint was used. The markings would have been recently changed thus a darker area below the crosses. I used Acrylics for the streaking for the first time. I am now Decideing if this is a Pass...or Fail so All Opinions welcomed.
RAGIII
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PS: I don't know why but the photo shows the streaking More brown when in reality it is OD Green ::)
PPS: The tail will be overpainted in light Jasta 4 blue.
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I think your streaking looks great Rick! I read too that the varnishes used and weathering would give the Green a brownish tint, so to me it looks spot on, I wouldn't change a thing. I am going to use Tamiya Acrylics on my upcoming DR.I and can only hope it turns out as good as yours. Very nice Rick!
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Looks cracking Rick,
I love seeing everyone’s interpretations of streaking...
Guy
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My vote is that your streaking gets a pass with "flying colours"! I admire all of you modellers who achieve painting at that standard.
Stephen.
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Lovely streaking, Rick! And amazing progress, I must consider retirement! Regards, Marc.
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I think your streaking looks great Rick! I read too that the varnishes used and weathering would give the Green a brownish tint, so to me it looks spot on, I wouldn't change a thing. I am going to use Tamiya Acrylics on my upcoming DR.I and can only hope it turns out as good as yours. Very nice Rick!
Thanks Mark. Like I said the color is actually more Olive Drab Green than brown but the brown tones would be acceptable ::) I used Valejo Olive Drab Green and Olive brown, along with a filter(Wash) intended for OD Armor Models.
RAGIII
Looks cracking Rick,
I love seeing everyone’s interpretations of streaking...
Guy
Thanks Guy! Yep, everyone seems to have their own idea ;D I am still thinking on this one. Perhaps when the band is added to the fuselage and the crosses are in place I will like it better !
RAGIII
My vote is that your streaking gets a pass with "flying colours"! I admire all of you modellers who achieve painting at that standard.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I appreciate the vote of confidence!
RAGIII
Lovely streaking, Rick! And amazing progress, I must consider retirement! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! As long as you are talking retirement from work I think it is a Fabulous Idea ! I Love being retired!!!
RAGIII
So I did the initial streaking on the Meng kit's center wing and left fuselage. This time I have gone back to oils so I have a couple of days to adapt, change, and refine the streaks 8) Again suggestions are welcome! This one is going to be Kirschsteins Jasta 6 stripey bird so no streaks aft of the cockpit!
RAGIII
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Hey Rick ,
On the Roden kit I agree with the others and it gets my vote . You captured that worn faded looking , it's perfeck !
The streaking on the Meng kit looks awesome , I would say you have become a master of this with the amount of Fokkers behind your belt .
Terri
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Hey Rick ,
On the Roden kit I agree with the others and it gets my vote . You captured that worn faded looking , it's perfeck !
The streaking on the Meng kit looks awesome , I would say you have become a master of this with the amount of Fokkers behind your belt .
Terri
Thanks Terri! I am enjoying it all. I still feel more comfortable with the Oils!
RAGIII
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Nice work there! Streaking is looking great
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Steaking is very nice Rick!
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Rick, your streaking looks good! Not that easy to get it right, and I know that because I'm doing the same now ::)
Which Tamiya paint you use for CDL? For the Fokker I like to have a less yellow, more greenish and your shade looks like that (ok, camera, light and monitor may manipulate the color ...).
Cheers,
Frank
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Nice work there! Streaking is looking great
Thanks Dave, Greatly Appreciate you looking in!
RAGIII
Steaking is very nice Rick!
Thanks Kent!
RAGIII
Rick, your streaking looks good! Not that easy to get it right, and I know that because I'm doing the same now ::)
Which Tamiya paint you use for CDL? For the Fokker I like to have a less yellow, more greenish and your shade looks like that (ok, camera, light and monitor may manipulate the color ...).
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks for commenting Frank! As for the Tamiya CDL I am pretty sure it started as "Buff". I might have mixed in some grey. I used a mix I had sitting on the shelf so I am not 100% sure ::)
RAGIII
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The lower wing and fuselage are finished...Streaking that is 8)
RAGIII
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Looking at the two Rick there are clearly tonal differences (but bear in mind Frank's comments), but I think that both are very good. I suspect that in reality different aircraft did look slightly different because paints would have varied and the people painting the streaking would have had different patterns too. So in brief: both get my vote! (And if I ever build a Fokker in the future I know who to send it to for painting!!)
Stephen.
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Rick, you managed to keep the streaks in areas, where a huge amount of paint is removed. I tried it, but get quickly an uniform area.
Cheers,
Frank
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Rick, you managed to keep the streaks in areas, where a huge amount of paint is removed. I tried it, but get quickly an uniform area.
Cheers,
Frank
. Frank, It is a matter of remembering that oils can be worked and then reworked. I remove large areas with a dampened wide flat brush then go back with a narrow brush adding what I want. If I don't like the results I remove and re-do.
RAGIII
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They look fantastic. The streaking is very beautiful.
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Nice job on the streaking, Rick.
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Moving along nicely Amigo !!
Ed
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Moving along nicely Amigo !!
Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Looking at the two Rick there are clearly tonal differences (but bear in mind Frank's comments), but I think that both are very good. I suspect that in reality different aircraft did look slightly different because paints would have varied and the people painting the streaking would have had different patterns too. So in brief: both get my vote! (And if I ever build a Fokker in the future I know who to send it to for painting!!)
Stephen.
Thanks for the comments Stephen. I took a break today from the Fokkers to work on the Pfalz. The next steps should make these look better.
RAGIII
They look fantastic. The streaking is very beautiful.
Thanks for dropping in and commenting!
RAGIII
Nice job on the streaking, Rick.
Thanks Ken!
RAGIII
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Now that is nicely done Rick :)
Terri
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Now that is nicely done Rick :)
Terri
Thanks T!
RAGIII
PS: I did apply one Roden cross decal. Got a small chip but will correct that when I convert the cross to the later open ended type.
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PPS: The RODEN decal is working well although it was Brittle!. It is reacting to setting solution and a hair dryer. Other than the chipped portion I am pleased.
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RAGIII,
The streaking looks great. I'm wondering whether you found using acrylics easier, harder or the same just different, than the oil paints you have used in the past?
Thanks, Kevin
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Beautiful colours! That streaking is really impressive.
/Fredrik
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RAGIII,
The streaking looks great. I'm wondering whether you found using acrylics easier, harder or the same just different, than the oil paints you have used in the past?
Thanks, Kevin
Thanks Kevin. The Acrylics are certainly different than what I am used to! I found I needed to work more quickly and they were just a tad harder to get the look I was after. I worked "wet" and used water and a Filter/wash to thin and remove what I needed to. In the end I am more comfortable with the time that the Oils allow.
RAGIII
Beautiful colours! That streaking is really impressive.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik!
RAGIII
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Today I painted the undersurfaces using an old Poly Scale color Mix on the Roden Jasta 4 build. I also did the Tail. I hope to add a bit of contrast using oils and another mix of Poly Scale. I decided to replace the Roden decals with ones from WNW that did not require masking over and painting the ends. One thing I can say about the Roden decals, Once they are in place and set with decal solution, THEY ARE SOLID! I was unable to remove all of the decal with Masking Tape and had to resort to sanding and repainting the background!!!! That being said this is where I am:
RAGIII
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wMDfRhd5/123130939-4115698108457230-4314731469669444990-n.jpg)
PS: One other thing worth Mentioning and this is the Honest Truth. The Roden Decals are brittle. That being said if you can get them in place without chipping or cracking they actually adhere to surface details better than the WNW decals I went with!
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Facebook has supplied some interesting "Friends" and very generous researchers. Greg van Wyngarden posted this photo on My FB comment showing My DR1. I assume since he made it public that I can now show the Jasta 4 bird I am doing. This is a cropped closeup as the original is at a distance. Thanks Greg!
RAGIII
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That is looking really, really good, Rick! I'm finding it increasingly difficult not to buy a triplane of my own... (voice of reason inside head: You must not add more to the stash!)
/Fredrik
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That is looking really, really good, Rick! I'm finding it increasingly difficult not to buy a triplane of my own... (voice of reason inside head: You must not add more to the stash!)
/Fredrik
Thanks for the Kind comment! Everyone should have at least one DR1 8) JMHO,
RAGIII
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Everyone should have at least one DR1 8)
You have certainly sold me. That looks absolutely brilliant. :)
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Honestly Rick , these are shaping up to be your best Fokkers yet ! Brillant :)
Terri
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Just catching up again. These both look terrific!! Since we're voting (and if THEY were in an election I would vote for these not those other Fokkers) I pick both! Each have their merits. When you say acrylics you do mean artist or tube acrylics right? Not Vallejo or Tamiya etc. The Roden definitely looks more blended. Is that due to having to work faster and trying to keep the paint wet? Could you put the paint on, level/smooth it and get a more defined streaking without going faster? Less paint on initial application? Have you seen the wet pallets at the art stores? (AK has them too) Its a container with a layer of sponge and a piece of semi absorbent paper. You add water, put the acrylic paint on the paper and it keeps the paint moist for a substantial length of time(days) - that's a lot of questions, sorry, but I see your method having a huge upside compared to oils. Being able to work sooner on a project after paint means a lot. I retire in 12 days (hence the questions) so my preparations are in the works!! - I cant wait to get at my models full time, figure out how to post pics and get something done!!!!!
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Rick, I really like the streaking on the Roden Jasta 4 model above. Looks very convincing to my eye. Carry on!
Best,
Bob
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Everyone should have at least one DR1 8)
You have certainly sold me. That looks absolutely brilliant. :)
Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
Honestly Rick , these are shaping up to be your best Fokkers yet ! Brillant :)
Terri
Thanks T!
RAGIII
Just catching up again. These both look terrific!! Since we're voting (and if THEY were in an election I would vote for these not those other Fokkers) I pick both! Each have their merits. When you say acrylics you do mean artist or tube acrylics right? Not Vallejo or Tamiya etc. The Roden definitely looks more blended. Is that due to having to work faster and trying to keep the paint wet? Could you put the paint on, level/smooth it and get a more defined streaking without going faster? Less paint on initial application? Have you seen the wet pallets at the art stores? (AK has them too) Its a container with a layer of sponge and a piece of semi absorbent paper. You add water, put the acrylic paint on the paper and it keeps the paint moist for a substantial length of time(days) - that's a lot of questions, sorry, but I see your method having a huge upside compared to oils. Being able to work sooner on a project after paint means a lot. I retire in 12 days (hence the questions) so my preparations are in the works!! - I cant wait to get at my models full time, figure out how to post pics and get something done!!!!!
Thanks for the comments. In this case I actually did use Valejo ::) I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure! It would help when painting figures also! Enjoy your retirement, I know I do. I am looking forward to seeing some of your work soon 8)
These are the Valeyo paints I used...along with water.
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RAGIII
Rick, I really like the streaking on the Roden Jasta 4 model above. Looks very convincing to my eye. Carry on!
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
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Thanks for the update. Even more impressed now because you had to work very fast using Vallejo but it all looks in control and right!!
Steve
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Thanks for the update. Even more impressed now because you had to work very fast using Vallejo but it all looks in control and right!!
Steve
Thanks Again Steve! Today I painted the rear fuselage, tail, and upper wing white as a base for the black and white stripes on the Meng Jasta 6 bird. Next I will do the blue undersides then begin the masking on all of the other stuff 8)
RAGIII
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Great updates, your streaking technique is very effective.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Rick, I really like your progress, this will be a beautiful Dr.I!
I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure!
You can make one yourself easily!
Take a plastic CD box, the clear cover.
Put in one or two layers of kitchen roll paper cut to size.
Put on top a layer of baking paper (also available in white)
You can slide the papers under the 4 halfround tabs, or fix it around with paper clips.
If you now made the lower kitchen paper wet, you have your wet pallet - cheap, easy and working.
I do not invented it, I read about it somewhere.
Cheers,
Frank
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Very effective Rick,
I like that a lot!
Guy
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Really looking forward on the next step ...STRIPES ! I did this scheme on a Eduards Dr.1 and plan on doing Meng's kit the same
Terri
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Really looking forward on the next step ...STRIPES ! I did this scheme on a Eduards Dr.1 and plan on doing Meng's kit the same
Terri
Thanks Terri. I painted the blue unders today so sometime in the next week it will turn Stripey!
RAGIII
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Been catching up Rick. The streaking is stunning - I am truly very impressed indeed. The black and white stripes will also be a real eye-catcher.
Stephen.
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Nice progress, Rick. I think getting the streaking colors on is a significant milestone.
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Rick,
Your streaking is very impressive, it looks the part and more. I am about to borrow some of your initiative here, am doing the Meng kit and then plan to immediately launch into the Roden version. The temptation to do a double Build was there but I figured one Kit at a time is more my speed! I've been following your progress closely and will continue to do so, lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Great updates, your streaking technique is very effective.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks Giuseppe! I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
Rick, I really like your progress, this will be a beautiful Dr.I!
I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure!
You can make one yourself easily!
Take a plastic CD box, the clear cover.
Put in one or two layers of kitchen roll paper cut to size.
Put on top a layer of baking paper (also available in white)
You can slide the papers under the 4 halfround tabs, or fix it around with paper clips.
If you now made the lower kitchen paper wet, you have your wet pallet - cheap, easy and working.
I do not invented it, I read about it somewhere.
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. Perhaps I will give this a try before I spend Money on a commercial variant!
RAGIII
Very effective Rick,
I like that a lot!
Guy
Thanks for the comment Guy!
RAGIII
Been catching up Rick. The streaking is stunning - I am truly very impressed indeed. The black and white stripes will also be a real eye-catcher.
Stephen.
Thanks as always Stephen!
RAGIII
Nice progress, Rick. I think getting the streaking colors on is a significant milestone.
Thanks Ken. Funny thing is that this is the stage I usually don't like My work. I always like it better once markings are applied ::)
RAGIII
Rick,
Your streaking is very impressive, it looks the part and more. I am about to borrow some of your initiative here, am doing the Meng kit and then plan to immediately launch into the Roden version. The temptation to do a double Build was there but I figured one Kit at a time is more my speed! I've been following your progress closely and will continue to do so, lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance! I appreciate that you are following along and look forward to your Meng build!
RAGIII
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Today I masked and painted the black stripes. I am pleased in that not a whole lot of touch up is needed! I used 32 x 7mm strips of Tamiya tape ::) I also assembled and painted the Meng Engine and the WNW engine I had purchased long ago for use with the Roden kit.
RAGIII
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PS: The shot of the underwing surface shows how well the Optical Illusion works. The stripes are angled exactly like the upper surface but from this angle look straight 8)
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RAGIII,
Between this build and the Udet Fokker you did previously, you've really "Earned Your Stripes". Looking great!
Kevin
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Earning ones stripes is a lot of work , it takes courage , passion and few beers behind the belt to be successful . You have earned those stripes Rick , top wing looks great and those engines are also very well done .
Terri
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RAGIII,
Between this build and the Udet Fokker you did previously, you've really "Earned Your Stripes". Looking great!
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. Hopefully today I will Earn a lot More Stripes ;D
RAGIII
Earning ones stripes is a lot of work , it takes courage , passion and few beers behind the belt to be successful . You have earned those stripes Rick , top wing looks great and those engines are also very well done .
Terri
Thanks Terri! More stripes on the way!
RAGIII
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So I thought the wings would be the most challenging...wrong! Both sides have a different pattern therefore making the uppers line up is difficult 8) So a little touch up and reshaping of the stripes will be needed.
RAGIII
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PS: Scheme is based on drawings fro the Osprey Fokker DR1 Aces book.
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It's looking good Rick. Matching the stripes can be a real challenge as the angle of the stripe makes the top wider than the angle of the stripe on the upper part of the fuselage. I wrestled with that when I did mine in Udets markings. Just a little tweaking of the stripe made it all come together. You are doing stellar work and I am following, maybe not commenting a lot but following none the less. Remember, we're in this together.
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Actually Rick , that turned out rather well . It is not an easy scheme and when I did this one in 48 scale I had a bit of touch ups with the stripes as well . This is going to look fab once you get done . Wonderful thread to follow !
Terri
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Brilliant work, still following with interest
;D
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Great work!! That does look tricky getting everything lined up AND evenly spaced. You have nailed it!!! Very sharp.
Steve (3 days left and counting...)
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I do like the stripes! You certainly rose to the challenge, Rick! Regards, Marc.
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Thanks to all for the comments. I stared at the model and what photos are available of the real bird and decided I wasn't satisfied with My results. I have sanded down the upper fuselage and left side stripes and will re do them later :o
RAGIII
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The stripes looked pretty good, but if you're not satisfied, best to re-do them. If something is not done to my satisfaction, it bugs me every time I look at the model!
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Best way to go if your not happy with the results , will only eat at you in the end . Looking forward to the re-do .
Terri
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The stripes looked pretty good, but if you're not satisfied, best to re-do them. If something is not done to my satisfaction, it bugs me every time I look at the model!
I almost let it go but it kept nagging me ;D
RAGIII
Best way to go if your not happy with the results , will only eat at you in the end . Looking forward to the re-do .
Terri
I stripped it yesterday and hope to start the re do today 8)
RAGIII
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I have painted( Mostly) the band on the fuselage of the Roden DR1. I used decal for the black portions. The band needs a bit of touch up. Slowly getting towards mounting the wings. I hope to work on the re do of the Meng kit stripes later today.
RAGIII
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Great work getting all those stripes in place! Great looking models!
/Fredrik
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Great work getting all those stripes in place! Great looking models!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I spent the rest of today masking and re-painting the Jasta 6 DR1. I like the results much better! On the other hand when painting the tail I forgot to add one small piece of tape....white will need to be touched up 8)
RAGIII
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PS: YES, I am much happier with the re-painted top and left side ::)
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Both are turning out super so far Rick , and you earned your stripes again ;) Time for a cold one ! Looking forward on the next up-date :)
Terri
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Thanks Terri! I am about 4 cold ones ahead of your suggestion 8)
RAGIII
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Looking good Rick! Your progress and output are always impressive. I have got to get myself retired soon so I can devote more time to the bench. Carry on! Looking forward to seeing this pair in all their glory. BTW, the stripes look great!
Best,
Bob
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Looking good Rick! Your progress and output are always impressive. I have got to get myself retired soon so I can devote more time to the bench. Carry on! Looking forward to seeing this pair in all their glory. BTW, the stripes look great!
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob! I Highly recommend retirement although I hate that Most of us have to get OLD to get there ::)
RAGIII
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Today I painted the wing ties, glued them in place and attached the lower wing and lower fuselage. I also added the last of the crosses. Next up is some weathering on both DR1 kits.
RAGIII
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RAGIII,
I can't keep track of which model is Meng and which is Roden. They both look fantastic.
Kevin
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Both are shaping up to be very impressive models, Rick.
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I have had to catch up with these builds Rick, and I am bowled over by the stripey looks! Both models are very impressive indeed - particularly the one with wings and fuselage. Your painting skills really are second to none. I also think that the WNW engines are mini-masterpieces and make a super addition to any model.
Stephen.
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Well Rick , what can say ...top notch work so far ! :) Looking forward on seeing how the weathering turns out on both .
Terri
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Nice stripes, Rick! An ambitious scheme but beautifully executed! Regards, Marc.
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Rick, I had some catching up to do, but I love your results. I am always most impressed with your productivity. How do you do that? Your day only has 24 hours, or do you also work at night? ;D
Cheers,
Frank
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RAGIII,
I can't keep track of which model is Meng and which is Roden. They both look fantastic.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. It is easy to tell the difference...The Roden kit has Round access hatches and the Meng ones are Rectangular ;D
RAGIII
Both are shaping up to be very impressive models, Rick.
Thanks for commenting Ken!
RAGIII
I have had to catch up with these builds Rick, and I am bowled over by the stripey looks! Both models are very impressive indeed - particularly the one with wings and fuselage. Your painting skills really are second to none. I also think that the WNW engines are mini-masterpieces and make a super addition to any model.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! I always appreciate you feedback!
RAGIII
Well Rick , what can say ...top notch work so far ! :) Looking forward on seeing how the weathering turns out on both .
Terri
Thanks for commenting T!
RAGIII
Nice stripes, Rick! An ambitious scheme but beautifully executed! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Rick, I had some catching up to do, but I love your results. I am always most impressed with your productivity. How do you do that? Your day only has 24 hours, or do you also work at night? ;D
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank! Hope you are doing well!
RAGIII
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I worked on the Roden kit and have modified/cut apart the Roden landing gear legs to fit the Wide chord Axle wing from the Meng DR1. I also began to work on the Spandaus. Finally the Aviattic cowling painted and sitting in place.
I also installed the Machine Guns, wheels, Rudder, and cowling on the Meng DR1
RAGIII
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PS: I also did a little touch up on the band of the Roden kit ;D
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RAGIII,
Looks like you had a very productive weekend. The Tripes are looking even better.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
Looks like you had a very productive weekend. The Tripes are looking even better.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. Not quite as much done as I would have liked 8)
RAGIII
PS: Todays mission is to work on the Nieuport ;D
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Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas
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Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas
Thanks Andreas! I greatly appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
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Rick , those Fokkers are turning out to be beauties so far , looking awesome :)
Terri
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Thanks Terri. I plan to work on them tommorow
RAGIII
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You continue to amaze Rick! These are beautiful and will likely inspire some other Dr.I builds in the not-too-distant future. Outstanding! ;D
Best,
Bob
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Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc
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Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas, more impressive are 10 wings on this 4 planes :o
Ok, now that are 3 planes, but still 8 wings - very impressive, also in terms of quality and productivity!
Cheers,
Frank
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Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc
Thanks Bob! As I always say, if I inspire another Modeler to build a kit I have acheived the only purpose I have for posting My Builds 8)
RAGIII
Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc
Thanks Marc!
RAGIII
Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas, more impressive are 10 wings on this 4 planes :o
Ok, now that are 3 planes, but still 8 wings - very impressive, also in terms of quality and productivity!
Cheers,
Frank
Yes, down to three and thanks for the comment! Today I did a small amount on the Triplanes to get back in the Saddle so to speak. Rudders and rudder crosses added to both. I used the wheels from an old Roden Albatros DIII(OAW) for the larger diameter on the Roden DR1. In addition I used a repurposed PE part from the Toms Model Works Pfalz set as the frame for the inspection window on the Roden upper wing. I had a spare wood panel from a WNW DVII so used that as it really can't be read! Finall, I started detail painting on the MG's and other things.
RAGIII
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These a re two superb looking models Rick. I just hope that you do not drop them....!
Stephen.
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These a re two superb looking models Rick. I just hope that you do not drop them....!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! It seems that I only "Drop" models that I have worked really hard at getting the upper wing in place so hopefully these will escape the curse 8)
RAGIII
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Just a quick note. The Roden kit is officially a Triplane!
RAGIII
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Next up will be getting the Meng kit in the same place then weathering and final details.
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Hey Rick , man that Roden tripe is a beauty so far . Fantastic work sir !
Terri
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Hey Rick , man that Roden tripe is a beauty so far . Fantastic work sir !
Terri
Thanks Terri! Here is one more photo:
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RAGIII
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RAGIII,
Like Terri said, "Fantastic". I can't say enough how good your streaking looks.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
Like Terri said, "Fantastic". I can't say enough how good your streaking looks.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I am Happy with the streaking but every time I look at a build where the Modeler has used the Aviattic Decals I like what I see. I think I am going to experiment the next time I build a DR1 ::)
RAGIII
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Rick, I think that using transfers for streaking would be a mistake. Your streaking really is second to none - and it really is all your own work. The Roden tripe looks even better with the top wing on.
Stephen.
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Rick, I think that using transfers for streaking would be a mistake. Your streaking really is second to none - and it really is all your own work. The Roden tripe looks even better with the top wing on.
Stephen.
As always thanks for your support Stephen. This was going to be a progress report on mounting the upper wing on the Meng kit. I managed to break a cabane strut. No big deal I can order the brass struts to replace it. Then I was holding the kit by the upper wing at the aileron. Aileron separated and once again a Fatal crash. I am going to close out both of MY build logs even though two still survive. I just don't have it in Me to continue.
A large thanks to ALL who have supported My builds over the years!
RAGIII/ AKA Rick Geisler
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You and Terri are having some kind of luck!
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Wow , that really sucks Rick and sorry to hear this . After seeing the end results the Meng kit is turning out to be a huge disappointment . I also hope that you aren't leaving us either , you are important to us here . I think I will be ordering the brass replacement struts as well and save at least on headache with the kit .
I really do like your work Rick , you skills have really matured over the years :)
Terri
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Really sorry to see that Rick. Your Dr.1s are breathtaking and sooooo close to completion.
Can they be sent to the naughty corner of the hobby room for a few weeks while you re-charge the motivational batteries for another go at them?
These models are too good to abandon now. And that Fokker streaking is absolutely world class!
Don't give up now. :)
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Very sad news, I can only imagine your feelings after so much incredible work but incidents always wait in ambush behind corners. As Dave suggested, please don't give up as with your skills you can manage even worse failures. Let the damaged model rest aside and take a break, time always helps everybody.
Hold strong!
Giuseppe
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very sad news, they were going to be very nice models
We can understand you mood nod, but please do not give up...
er.me
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Rick,
Walk away. Clear your mind. Take your time.
Remember!
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave!
It's in our blood.
von B
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Bloody hell Rick,I think you should now buy a lottery ticket,you're certainly overdue for a large dose of good luck.My commiserations on this pair of setbacks, I really feel for you mate.
Cheers,
Dave.
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That's a real nasty development Rick, the gods of modeling have certainly not smiled on you of late! Don't give up, I'd recommend you order the brass struts and during the wait enjoy the break while two very good things happen .......
one, you get your mojo recharged and two, two beautifully finished models emerge from the temporary disaster you've been dealt! Oh yes, the "wait" must include an hour or two sitting at the "Bench" working on a couple of really cold brews ........ good for the soul doncha know!
Cheers,
Lance
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What a sad news!
A large thanks to ALL who have supported My builds over the years!
Rick, that sounds so damn definitive! Please don't leave us here alone!
Make a break, recover your mojo but come back someday please.
All the best to you,
Frank
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Ah Rick,
Put them in a box, take a few days out, then build something simple that really floats yr boat! Even something completely out of left field - a guilty pleasure! I’ve had so many disasters it’s not funny!
All the best,
Guy
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Darn!!!
How much bad luck can you run into!
I hope you get your mojo back soon Rick, and I hope to see you back here soon with another of your beautiful builds.
Willem
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Rick, I am so sorry to hear about the damage. I have been enjoying your builds immensely and watch out for them every time I visit here.
If it seems too much, just put them aside for now and enjoy the next project. You may find that Meng and Roden have a parts replacement service for the pieces you need. If not, you still have the originals to use as templates. And there might well come a day where you are able to use them as patterns to make your own replacement parts.
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I agree with Bob and the rest; take some time away from the hobby, clear your head, focus and get back into it. Like Bob wrote: "It's in your blood" and as Terri wrote, you are a valuable member of the group. I admire your work and the effort you put into the model and the time take photo's, and share your work. Hang in there Rick, this too shall pass.
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That’s really a pity to see the 2nd plane go. I definitely hope that your mood recovers in the near future, we‘ll miss your build reports very much!
All the best,
Andreas
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I'm really sorry to hear this, Rick. And yes, it does happen to most of us far too often... There are many reasons to give it a break, walk away and come back later.. This thread was the inspiration for me to pick up my Roden Dr.1 again, the first decent project I've tackled all year, so I will try to carry on with the show! Take it easy, Rick, Regards and Salutations, Marc.
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Aww MAN! take some time out Rick, paint the bedroom or remodel the kitchen. Come back to the bench and build a dinosaur. You are a valued freind here, we need you. Regards, Pete in RI
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Rotten deal, Rick. Looking back they were coming along nicely.
Can I just say one of the reasons I don't publish day by day progress reports is that too many times fate intervenes with a deus ex machina like this. I wait till it's safely finished - probably why I post few current builds! (Other reasons are my snail's pace and poor photography skills!)
I'm sure in a few days you'll be ready to wrest success from the jaws of defeat.
Sandy
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Really pity to see such end. Especially with such care and success in streaking camo. But then, do not bin it, a day may come you may wish to return to them.
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I am not sure where to begin here so if this comes out looking rather Random so be it.
First, I never intended to "Leave the Forum" The Forum is too much a part of My Daily routine and I Love this place and Most of all the Modelers. I did however, fully intend to STOP posting build logs. A few things have happened that changed My Mind. After a few days of getting over the second disaster I started feeling better about Modeling. The Major Reason is this Forum and especially the Community of Modelers involved. I can't say enough about the responses and what they have done to Inspire Me. I am but a small part player here...No One is More important than the Community!
So, Having thought things over and due to a couple of PM's I received I am going to re-open this log! Thank You Dave W for your Messages! I also received a Message from rayb24. This Message is the One that really showed Me How Generous and supportive this Community is. I am posting a copy of the text for all to see.
"Hey Rick, i was following your build, i have 3 Meng dr1’s and your welcome to one. No charge, you can either use the parts to fix what you have or start again.. i’ve been where you are with a few built(nearly) models. So no the feeling."
Ray
I accepted Ray's offer and of course When the opportunity arises I will Pay His Generosity forward! I will build the Meng kit in the intended Jasta 6 scheme and hopefully make it even better. I also will finish the Roden build as another Forum Member Pete supplied Me with a Lot of aftermarket stuff to make it better! I also remembered that this Roden kit was a "Prize" for My Participation in the Des Delatore GB. It wouldn't be fitting to stop the build log!!
Now, in Typical RAGIII style I will add a third DR1 to the build, another Roden kit using Parts and pieces scavanged from the wreck ::) Photo soon.
Thank You All for being a Part of the Community and a Daily Inspiration!
RAGIII
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Just catching up on all this Rick - glad you are getting back in the saddle and moving ahead.
Cheers,
Gary
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Just catching up on all this Rick - glad you are getting back in the saddle and moving ahead.
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks Gary! Here are the first photos of the second Roden DR1. This one I intend to do as DR1 502/17 from Jasta 11. I was able to salvage the Meng interior "Almost" in tact! I haven't worked on the other kits much but I began to wonder if I could mate the Meng interior with the Roden kit. After some sanding and filing this is the results to date:
(https://i.postimg.cc/c1QP8Xf5/127243821-4192247387468968-7879315654966498417-o.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZmKkykp/126049659-4192249147468792-7140641843657770077-o.jpg)
Still needs tweaking and I will need to remove the instrument and fuel fillers to make it work.
RAGIII
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Glad to have you back Rick, although you were never really gone of course...
I share your enthusiasm about this Community of Modelers. It is heart warming, and it kept me going in the early moments of my HP V/1500 build in moments of despair...
Willem
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Glad to see you are back on it!
If you need any spare parts from a Roden DrI please let me know as I have some...
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Atta Boy Rick, back to the bench already with even more! It's so nice to see the spirit and generosity of this Forum in action, and also the determination you are demonstrating by re-starting this project. The salvaged cockpit looks terrific as will the resulting finished model!
Cheers,
Lance
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So good to have you busy on this one, Rick! Meng insides into the Roden kit... very interesting! We follow and appreciate... Regards, Marc.
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I'm really glad that the community, all of us, could put up the catch net so quickly and caught you!
Now we get even a kit bash ;D
Have fun!
Frank
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A kit bash , even better !
Glad to see you back in the saddle Rick :) The members of our community are fantastic and will always step up to the plate to help !!!
Seems the Meng cockpit fits in Rodens fuselage pretty good with a bit of trimming . :)
Terri
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It's in our blood!
Carry on!
vB ;)
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No giving up, but rising the bar instead, that‘s really great sports :)
Andreas
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Thanks again to all for the comments: So finished the tweaking, more or less. I will need to adjust the MG attachment but I think it is going to work.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/nzdRnZTQ/127228028-4193393504021023-3740647284957922215-n.jpg)
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That looks really good Rick , nice tight fit :)
Terri
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Good on yer Rick! Glad to see you up and at 'em in true RAGIII Fashion and making stellar progress with the "Mengden" amalgamation. It looks promising Rick and I think you are past the largest hurdle, the rest is modeling as usual. Looking forward to seeing this bad boy shine.
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That looks really good Rick , nice tight fit :)
Terri
Thanks Terri! It is looking hopeful as the attached photo will show. Just in case I plan to build the Roden interior also ::)
RAGIII
Good on yer Rick! Glad to see you up and at 'em in true RAGIII Fashion and making stellar progress with the "Mengden" amalgamation. It looks promising Rick and I think you are past the largest hurdle, the rest is modeling as usual. Looking forward to seeing this bad boy shine.
Thanks Mark! Like I said it looks Hopeful so far! Just need to repair the wires and stuff that were damaged removing the interior from the Meng fuselage and add the triangular panels....then paint , weather the interior, etc.
RAGIII
PS: A few more tweaks needed!
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7N4yMTw/127565840-4195683177125389-841276625827024859-n.jpg)
and just for fun a close up of the other Jasta 4 Roden kit:
(https://i.postimg.cc/15yRw2T8/127508432-4195683327125374-883009551876460587-n.jpg)
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Rick,
My visits to the forum are very erratic at the moment so I have only just read about your second disaster....... I am lost for words, the more so since the streaking on the Fokker is truly exceptionally good. I am so pleased to read that you have managed to recover some of your equilibrium too - not easy given the circumstances, but commendable none the less.
It is sooo good to see that you have started again - after all disasters should not be barriers - rather challenges to be overcome. (Not that that view is easy to takejust after a major blow). Please do not leave us on this forum - you are such a highly valued member. Do what you have done - go away for a few days to calm down and then come back and show us how well you can make models which undoubtedly inspire the rest of us. I am sure that I write for most when I state that I too have nearly given up - as on the DH1A earlier this year when I knocked the top wing off.....-I nealry binned it but not quite, and I am pleased that I dd not.
I am ceetain that you are going to present us with not two but THREE excellent triplanes in the not too distant future, and do you know what? I can't wait!
Stephen.
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Rick,
My visits to the forum are very erratic at the moment so I have only just read about your second disaster....... I am lost for words, the more so since the streaking on the Fokker is truly exceptionally good. I am so pleased to read that you have managed to recover some of your equilibrium too - not easy given the circumstances, but commendable none the less.
It is sooo good to see that you have started again - after all disasters should not be barriers - rather challenges to be overcome. (Not that that view is easy to takejust after a major blow). Please do not leave us on this forum - you are such a highly valued member. Do what you have done - go away for a few days to calm down and then come back and show us how well you can make models which undoubtedly inspire the rest of us. I am sure that I write for most when I state that I too have nearly given up - as on the DH1A earlier this year when I knocked the top wing off.....-I nealry binned it but not quite, and I am pleased that I dd not.
I am ceetain that you are going to present us with not two but THREE excellent triplanes in the not too distant future, and do you know what? I can't wait!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen, Like I said I Never Intended to leave the Forum but the responses gave Me New Hope to continue posting builds! So in that spirit here is the latest on the Roden Jasta 4 bird: I have begun to weather using oils, burnt sienna, burnt umber, gold ochre, and black. My thought is that this is an older airframe passed down from Jasta 11 to Jasta 4. Therefore I have gone just a Tad heavier on the weathering.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0Hf5DwL/127550030-4196177737075933-2243930975795394000-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFxtMLR5/127572647-4196177963742577-8858194402896575834-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bJ0tdSCG/127662753-4196177837075923-8038521765723858454-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yxFz9Ts/127732785-4196177447075962-2964995507968620321-n.jpg)
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Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome :)
Terri
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Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
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late to the party (as usual) but it's good to see that by the time i hear of a disaster the victim has already bounced back.
good thing this isn't a Western and i'm not the Cavalry. please do a) keep building (you can't stop, not worried) but also b) keep posting build logs.
the heartbreaks, too, are instructional and inspirational for us noobs. we, too, will drop an almost finished favorite some day.
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Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
also remember that for you, you'll see every mistake, every spot where you could have decided differently. it'll never look as awesome sauce to you as it does to the rest of us who aren't thinking about how to tweak your build.
i may be a noob to this stuff but i did serve time in art school... i know the pain...
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Your weathering does look exceptional, Rick. Kudos!
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Just catching up. The ups and downs seem to have swung back to very much up!! Glad you're back on stride!! Model building has always been an escape for me - what happens in that world stays put. A disaster or frustration in a build does not ruin a day it just gets set aside. There are no "have to" or "I must" simply do it or don't. No one is DEPENDING on a build. Yes, there's a financial cost to this hobby but whether the project is completed or not - that money is spent. There is certainly a story now to the Fokker F up that down the line you will probably smile at!! I have watched your progress, the talent, the ability and your enthusiasm for the project at hand and although sympathetic to a catastrophic set back I draw further inspiration from you refocusing and approaching the problem from a new angle. Nicely done!! Crisis averted - proceed......
Steve
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Great work! Keep going!
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So glad to see you back on this build. Too much was done (and well done) before the sad occurrence not to try and recover the model.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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late to the party (as usual) but it's good to see that by the time i hear of a disaster the victim has already bounced back.
good thing this isn't a Western and i'm not the Cavalry. please do a) keep building (you can't stop, not worried) but also b) keep posting build logs.
the heartbreaks, too, are instructional and inspirational for us noobs. we, too, will drop an almost finished favorite some day.
Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
also remember that for you, you'll see every mistake, every spot where you could have decided differently. it'll never look as awesome sauce to you as it does to the rest of us who aren't thinking about how to tweak your build.
i may be a noob to this stuff but i did serve time in art school... i know the pain...
Thanks for the kind words Jeff! It was initially painful but thanks to the Forum Members I am back on Track. No More Drama Queen stuff from Me ;D
RAGIII
Your weathering does look exceptional, Rick. Kudos!
Thanks Ken. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Just catching up. The ups and downs seem to have swung back to very much up!! Glad you're back on stride!! Model building has always been an escape for me - what happens in that world stays put. A disaster or frustration in a build does not ruin a day it just gets set aside. There are no "have to" or "I must" simply do it or don't. No one is DEPENDING on a build. Yes, there's a financial cost to this hobby but whether the project is completed or not - that money is spent. There is certainly a story now to the Fokker F up that down the line you will probably smile at!! I have watched your progress, the talent, the ability and your enthusiasm for the project at hand and although sympathetic to a catastrophic set back I draw further inspiration from you refocusing and approaching the problem from a new angle. Nicely done!! Crisis averted - proceed......
Steve
Thanks Steve! II appreciate the thoughts you have expressed here! I can assure you I am indeed back on track and proceeding 8)
RAGIII
Great work! Keep going!
Thank You for the comment!
RAGIII
So glad to see you back on this build. Too much was done (and well done) before the sad occurrence not to try and recover the model.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks Giuseppe! Just to be clear the Jasta 6 "crashed" DR1 was scrapped for parts but the scheme will be repeated on a "New build" thanks to Ray!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick I read the last dramatic posts on this thread and I understood that COVID could have not been the worst plague of this fantastic 2020. The forum without your works is like a cinema without movies (I am joking and don't want to diminish the great modeller skills of the many other great modelers here).
BTW I am so happy to see you biting the bullet again and the result is another beautiful DR1.
Keep up the fire!
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Hi Rick I read the last dramatic posts on this thread and I understood that COVID could have not been the worst plague of this fantastic 2020. The forum without your works is like a cinema without movies (I am joking and don't want to diminish the great modeller skills of the many other great modelers here).
BTW I am so happy to see you biting the bullet again and the result is another beautiful DR1.
Keep up the fire!
Thanks Antonio! I took a day off yesterday for our US Thanksgiving. I hope to make progress today on some of the builds!
RAGIII
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I am nearing completion on the Roden Jasta 4 DR1. I have finished weathering the undersides and fuselage and just need to add a bit to the upper surfaces. Next up will be rigging and then adding the small breakable parts like the step and hand holds. I think it is appropriate while witing on the Meng "Replacement" to note a few comparisons.
Roden:
After 15 years the Roden kit is still pretty nicely done. A few errors of Omission are evident but honestly when the kit was designed Most had No Idaea!
Things I see needing correction:
1. Sand off "Most of the triangular panels on the wing upper surfaces. Honestly some trace "Might" be visible on the original
2. Do not use the fuel pump on the right fuselage side. This was a tube and valve that was connected to the control stick to more or less "Blip" the engine.( WNW /Meng are the first to get this right) Not generally known when Roden issued their kit.
3. Add some Nail holes to the wing ribs on the upper surface. Looks better even if exaggerated.
4, Correct the gear location on the leading edge.
5. Change the location of the spar inspection panel on the upper wing
6. The tires are too small in diameter( This was only recently discovered). They would be fine if building an F1.
7. The Cowl needs replacing or correction.
8. Fill in the depression on the horizontal tail surfaces( Although honestly there is a depression near the leading edge)
9. Add whatever cockpit details like the triangular panel are needed per your preferences
10.Add the fabric panel above the rear bulkhead.
11. No access hatch on the underside. Use Aviattic PE or Make your own.
12. No stitching on rear fuselage. Use Part, Eduard, or Archer stitching to add.
One thing Roden did get right is the recessed ribs on the undersides of the wing. Ray Rimell suggested adding a thinly stretched sprue piece to enhance the detail. Also the kit is Sturdy, No worries about breaking struts 8)
Meng:
Basically 15 years of improved Mold technology and Information. Superior in Most respects it does have drawbacks.
1. The Plastic is DIFFERENT! Softer yes, but also more brittle ::)
2. Tolerances are tight! Perhaps more so than WNW.
3. Because of #2 be SURE you do not Try to Force anything into place! Especially wing Ties and Cabanes!
4.Instrument decals are not very good
5. One Must either have knowledge of their intended subject or do research as the instructions really fall short of giving info on what parts should be used.
So that being said this is where I am on the Roden Jasta 4 build. Weathering of the undersides and Fuselage are done. Just need to pastel the upper surfaces and rig. Then the inevitable touch up:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/5ycQTPQF/128277761-4204721152888258-1476749435777718969-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qq86T82D/128402775-4204720596221647-7132414574999839355-n.jpg)
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Super results so far Rick ! She is coming along wonderfully and I must that I really like the scheme .
Terri
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Super results so far Rick ! She is coming along wonderfully and I must that I really like the scheme .
Terri
As always thanks for commenting Terri! Slightly aged photo:
(https://i.postimg.cc/TP9pT2zc/y2vlxb-20201129015231.jpg)
RAGIII
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Looking quite amazing, so far Rick! The colour scheme is attractive and your streaking effect.. spot on! Agree on your comments on the Roden kit... but quite doable! ATB, Marc
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Looking quite amazing, so far Rick! The colour scheme is attractive and your streaking effect.. spot on! Agree on your comments on the Roden kit... but quite doable! ATB, Marc
Thanks Marc, and yes the Roden kit can be built tp a very accurate and pleasing result!
RAGIII
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Rick,
Thanks for the effort to record all of your thoughts and "fixes" for the Roden Kit. (and she's a real beauty!) I'll be tackling that one again once I've completed Lothar's scheme on the Meng kit. I agree as well with your comments on that one and particularly on the instructions and plastic. Last, I marvel at your resiliency; the "crash" of the beautiful Meng one was a real kick in the butt, and you bounced right back in record time ...... good on Ya!
Cheers,
Lance
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Rick,
Thanks for the effort to record all of your thoughts and "fixes" for the Roden Kit. (and she's a real beauty!) I'll be tackling that one again once I've completed Lothar's scheme on the Meng kit. I agree as well with your comments on that one and particularly on the instructions and plastic. Last, I marvel at your resiliency; the "crash" of the beautiful Meng one was a real kick in the butt, and you bounced right back in record time ...... good on Ya!
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance. Like I said the Members of This Forum were responsible for MY quick recovery ;D
RAGIII
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Lovely model, finishing is beautiful and your attention to details commendable (and enviable ::))
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Lovely model, finishing is beautiful and your attention to details commendable (and enviable ::))
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks Giuseppe! Not a lot done today but I did add the triangular panels to the Jasta 11 Roden build. Almost ready to be closed up....I think 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJ0hhc8D/IMG-20201129-162538220.jpg)
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Moving right along Rick , she is looking good so far ...Go Rick Go !
Terri
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Moving right along Rick , she is looking good so far ...Go Rick Go !
Terri
Thanks Terri. I had difficulty getting to sleep last night so I have now buttoned up the DR1. Roden kit with a slightly modified Meng interior. I also made the slight modification needed to use the Meng Tail Surfaces. Upper fuselage seam was filled with Talcum powder and superglue mix so hopefully it will never re appear 8) I hope No other Modeler winds up with a spare Meng interior but at least we know it can be done ::)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqM39Lfs/IMG-20201130-003818137.jpg)
Thinned fuselage interior walls and trimmed the ammo bins:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpfG1rJ3/IMG-20201130-003828264-LI.jpg)
middle wing/cockpit coaming, and tail plane sitting in position:
(https://i.postimg.cc/90GqnHcs/IMG-20201130-003759709.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VL8tbvRw/IMG-20201130-003746496.jpg)
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Thanks for the comparison of the Roden and Meng kits. The Jasta 4 plane came out great! Looking forward to the Jasta 11 one.
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Thanks for the comparison of the Roden and Meng kits. The Jasta 4 plane came out great! Looking forward to the Jasta 11 one.
Thanks Ken. The Jasta 11 build should go pretty well but May be delayed as Aviattic is currently Out of Stock on the DR1 PE. By that time I should have the replacement Meng kit to start doing Kirschsteins Jasta 6 bird again ::)
RAGIII
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Excellent job on getting the fit Rick !
Terri
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Excellent job on getting the fit Rick !
Terri
Thanks Terri. I have finished the tweaks, glued the mid wing in place, stripped the Meng tail plane painting and attached, and added Archer Fine Transfers stitching to the Jasta 11 Roden kit.
RAGIII
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Really nice work on getting the parts to fit Rick , one would never know :)
Terri
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Really nice work on getting the parts to fit Rick , one would never know :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I also managed to get the rigging done on the Jasta 4 Roden DR1. Just a bit of weathering on the uppers and it is done. This should be the last post on this one prior to completed Models.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/cHkT8JM0/IMG-20201203-185151310.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZwPb49L/IMG-20201203-185213162.jpg)
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Wow! It looks stunning Rick!
Do you sleep at all???
Willem
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I love triplanes and the Roden looks terrific. I really like streaking.
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That's a beauty, Rick! Making me think of the Meng kit I have.
Could you post a picture of the underside. I'd like to see how the Archer stitching looks.
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Wow! It looks stunning Rick!
Do you sleep at all???
Willem
Thanks Willem, I actually only work on Models a few hours a day. It is just that being retired I do work on them Every Day!
RAGIII
I love triplanes and the Roden looks terrific. I really like streaking.
Thanks for dropping by and the comment!
RAGIII
That's a beauty, Rick! Making me think of the Meng kit I have.
Could you post a picture of the underside. I'd like to see how the Archer stitching looks.
Thanks Ken. I know I have confused things with deleting/crashing one kit and adding another. So here is a recap: 1. The Meng kit that was destroyed had Archer Stitching. 2. The Jasta 4 Roden kit has the Part PE Stitching. 3. The New Jasta 11 build has Archer Stitching as seen in the previous post ::)
RAGIII
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Great final results on the Roden kit. Proof with a little love it builds into a fine replica. Mengenstein Fokker is shaping up too!!
Steve
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Great final results on the Roden kit. Proof with a little love it builds into a fine replica. Mengenstein Fokker is shaping up too!!
Steve
Thanks Steve I appreciate your comments. I agree completely about the Roden kit! I have filled and sanded the seams on the "Mengenstein" kit. Actually the Only reason I used the Meng interior vs the Roden was that it was assembled , rigged, and painted. Saved a bunch of time. In some respects the Roden kit interior offers more possibilities. Having the complete fuel tank and engine bearers it lends itself well to opening up that lower panel from the Aviattic PE set.
RAGIII
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The Jasta 4 bird is DONE! I quit while I was ahead... I kept getting the feeling I was going to drop it ::)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqbq0mmV/rnh6c-20201206032044.jpg)
More photos of this part of the build in Completed Models
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11730.msg218827#msg218827
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The second Roden/Meng DR1 is going fairly well. I have begun the Streaking using oils. In this case an Out of Tube OD and burnt umber. I am also doing a little "revisionist" thinking on the colors ::) Some May like it and some not!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNymycsx/130723492-4237113322982374-1123108707693081249-n.jpg)
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I do like how the colours constrat with each other , gives it a totally different look .
Terri
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A nice "blank canvas" to experiment on!!
Steve
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Looking Good Amigo !!!
Ed
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Thanks Terri, Steve, and Ed. I appreciate the comments. I have changed the camo on the Roden kit....More on that later. I also changed My mind on the aircraft I will model. Still Jasta 11 but 545/17 of Hans Weiss. In the Meantime a few notable points about the Meng and Roden kit: First lets examine Ailerons: There has been much said about the Roden kit and it's ailerons. So lets exaamine the options. The Fokker DR1 basically had three types:
1. Fokker F1 Type
2. Early type. Similar to the F1 but with reduced chord on the balances.
3. Late style
Roden offers an accurate example of # 2 and 3. Meng offers accurate examples of #1 and 3.
So if one wants to do an F1 from the Roden kit you would need the Cutting Edge or Encore resin Ailerons representing that type.
If you want to do an Early DR1( Mostly Early Jasta 11, then the Roden early style is fine. Rodens Late style is also fine for all of the rest!
If building the Meng kit as an F1 their F1 style aileron is perfect. If doing an Early DR1 then use the Late style as a template to reduce the chord of the balance. The late style used on Most DR1's is again, perfect.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qTzhBrC/IMG-20201208-115831881.jpg)
Thanks to rayb24 I now have another Meng kit that I received yesterday. I am wasting No Time getting underway 8) I noticed some detail that I had overlooked on My first build: The leading edge of the wings shows VERY SUBTLE detail where the ply covering is located. Easy to miss this and it explains why Ray Rimell said to" Mostly" sand off the leading edge details on the Roden kit :o So moving along I have painted the Streaking on the Meng middle and lower wing. I also realized that No Seams would prevent me from painting the forward fuselage streaking on Kirschsteins DR1 so I went ahead and did so.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/N06Y5P16/IMG-20201210-175630245.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJnWFc8T/IMG-20201210-175848001-BURST001.jpg)
PS: I also have begun interior work on the Meng kit.
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Your streaking camouflage looks so great, I wasn't sure it was painted or a decal!
Best,
Tim
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Thanks for the explanation of the ailerons, Rick. Do you happen to know the numbers for the early batch vs the late batch?
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Your streaking camouflage looks so great, I wasn't sure it was painted or a decal!
Best,
Tim
Thanks Tim. I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII
Thanks for the explanation of the ailerons, Rick. Do you happen to know the numbers for the early batch vs the late batch?
Ken, I don't have the numbers at hand. I will check My references but I think the book that probably best explains the ailerons is one I don't have. Paul Lehmens Fokker Dr1. I am certain all will be included in Ray's two volume books on building the DR1. Like I said, "Most" of the early style were found in Jasta 11. Some like 144/17 had both early and late. Finally one could almost substitute "Standard" for Late as it was the most common type.
RAGIII
PS: I have been looking through My DR1 reference. All I can say for sure is that the "Early" style seems to be limited to Jasta 11 as I stated before. As for serial numbers they seem to be interspersed with those carrying the "Standard" aileron. As an example 154/17 has the early style but 139/17 has the later. It also appears that some of those delivered before the failure had F1 type ailerons but Gontermans 115/17 has the later "Standard" version. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can clear things up ::)
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This arrived today courtesy of Richard at Aviattic. A Test shot of the interior decals for the Meng kit. The instruments are a Huge improvement over the kit supplied decals!
RAGIII
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I made quite a bit of progress on both DR1 kits today. First I added the instrument decals from Aviattic sheet shown in the previous post to the Meng interior. Just a reminder here, if you use them remember that Aviattic decals are backed with clear so paint the appropriate color to back them. Second the sheet is a solid backing so you will need to trim as close as possible to the decal. After applying the instruments I glued the Meng fuselage together...No photos yet.
I also have finished the streaked camo on the Roden kit....for the third time. I really didn't like the revisionist scheme so went back and tried to remove the brown and add more green. The results were not satisfactory >:( So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base, then went back and did the streaking with oils. So since I changed the scheme three times it is only fair that I have now changed My mind on Markings three times. I went from 502/17 to 545/17, and have decided on an Early DR1 flown by Werner Steinhauser, Jasta 11 of course ;D This gave me the opportunity to use the Early style ailerons.
RAGIII
Note: According to info from Achim Engels the Tachometer was Not under the ammo box where Mengnuts have it. He says it was attached to the side frame.
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PS: I did add the control wires to the Meng interior before I closed it up, and The leading edges of the streaked camo will be cleaned up when the blue undersurfaces are painted on the Roden kit!
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You make it all sound so easy Rick...
...So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base...
How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?
Please bear in mind I'm a rookie
Willem
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You make it all sound so easy Rick...
...So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base...
How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?
Please bear in mind I'm a rookie
Willem
I used a soft cloth with Brake Fluid and carefully rubbed the surfaces. The oils came off easily and the acrylic base only took about 30 minutes. . Then I use dish detergent to wash off the oily residue. I sprayed about an hour later then did the streaking later in the afternoon. When things go well the streaking only takes about 5 minutes per surface ::)
RAGIII
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:) :) :)
Terri
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Nice colours on the streaking, Rick! I do think this method has great possibilities.... Regards, Marc.
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:) :) :)
Terri
Nice colours on the streaking, Rick! I do think this method has great possibilities.... Regards, Marc.
Thanks for looking in and commenting Terri and Marc!
RAGIII
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Rick on speed! Your Triplane show here is unbelievable!
How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?
Willem, I have made also good experience with normal alcohol (in german "Spiritus", a cheap undrinkable alcohol for cleaning) for acrylic paints, e.g. Gunze Hxxx, Tamiya or Mr. Paint. Even with oil stripes on top the alcohol goes a bit trough are solves the paint below.
If I so not rub to strong with cotton tab my Alclad Primer survives such attack.
I suggest to use a cheap model kit for testing paints, airbrush, brushes and ... cleaning ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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So I have progressed on both kits. I painted the rear fuselage and Horizontal tail white prior to masking and painting the black. I also have painted the red band and ellow X on the Roden fuselage. I will touch it up after painting the red tail stripes.
RAGIII
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Wow!! Great jump ahead in progress
Steve
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I love yours painting Rick
Spyros
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Those colors really set this one off, Rick!
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Wow!! Great jump ahead in progress
Steve
Thanks Steve!
RAGIII
I love yours painting Rick
Spyros
Thanks. I do like painting so greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Those colors really set this one off, Rick!
Thanks Ken. I also like the color contrast!
RAGIII
So moving along on the Meng kit. I have masked and painted the black stripes on the fuselage. I am pleased that there is only a Small amount of adjustment and touch up needed 8)
RAGIII
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RAG III,
These two are looking great. I must say, I'm glad to see you continuing with these builds.
Kevin
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RAG III,
These two are looking great. I must say, I'm glad to see you continuing with these builds.
Kevin
Thanks for the comment Kevin!
RAGIII
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I really like the different color schemes. Back then they were more creative in painting than nowadays. I see what you mean when you say a little touch up is needed but I think it is a nice little worn look. It doesn't disturb me at all. Keep up the good work.
Ferry
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I'm with Fvdm. Touch up if you want to, but the lack of absolute perfection makes it look more real in my eyes.
Great work over all!
/Fredrik
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You have done it again Rick!
Simply amazing!
Willem
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Rick,
You sir, are a true Master!
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Rick, I am really enjoying these lovely Dreideckers you are building up to such beautiful models. What great schemes, so well-executed! A real inspiration for me, with all those Roden Dr.I kits in my stash! Very well done, and thanks for sharing.
Best regards,
Bob
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Thanks Guys. I truly appreciate all of the comments! I Hope to get a little bit done today...still deciding on which one I am going to work on ::)
RAGIII
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With such colorful paints the birds looks even better!
You show again, that also the Roden Dr.I will looks great if carefully build and painted.
Cheers,
Frank
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Rick,
Somehow I have missed out on this thread for a couple of weeks as I thought (wrongly as it turns out), that you had stopped... Silly me!!
I have just spent a very interesting and informative 20 minutes catching up, and my it was well worth it. I have commented on your streaking several times already, but I am still awestruck by yor results. I am also very impressed with the super cockpit interior details - not to mention the colour schemes. In all a continuation of a super build thread, which I now intend to keep a closer eye on.
Stephen.
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Rick,
Somehow I have missed out on this thread for a couple of weeks as I thought (wrongly as it turns out), that you had stopped... Silly me!!
I have just spent a very interesting and informative 20 minutes catching up, and my it was well worth it. I have commented on your streaking several times already, but I am still awestruck by yor results. I am also very impressed with the super cockpit interior details - not to mention the colour schemes. In all a continuation of a super build thread, which I now intend to keep a closer eye on.
Stephen.
As always thanks for your support Stephen. Like I said earlier,the members of the Forum got me back on track!
RAGIII
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Some lovely progress on these two, Rick, Smashing colour schemes and you're not afraid to tackle the complexities of them... Real inspiration in progress.... Yes, the members of this site are awesome... ATB, Marc.
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Some lovely progress on these two, Rick, Smashing colour schemes and you're not afraid to tackle the complexities of them... Real inspiration in progress.... Yes, the members of this site are awesome... ATB, Marc.
Thanks Marc. I appreciate you following along!
RAGIII
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Every time I look something awesome happens here. Very sharp!!!
Steve
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Every time I look something awesome happens here. Very sharp!!!
Steve
Thanks Steve! No work done for two days. I hope tomorrow will be a lot more productive!
RAGIII
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Those look fantastic!!!
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Those look fantastic!!!
Thanks for taking the time to look in and the comment!
RAGIII
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These are really coming along. Lovely clean work as usual, Rick!
Dan
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Beautiful work on those Fokkers Rick :)
Terri
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These are really coming along. Lovely clean work as usual, Rick!
Dan
Thanks for dropping in and commenting Dan!
RAGIII
Beautiful work on those Fokkers Rick :)
Terri
Thanks Terri! Yesterday I did the touch up on the Jasta 6 stripes and added the red stripes to the Steinhauser Jasta 11 bird.
RAGIII
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Nice to see them both side by side. I have one question, the elevator of Jasta 6 is up. Is that possible when the plane stands on the ground?
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Excellent progress Rag, that Steinhauser scheme looks really cool and creates a nice contrast with the camouflage. You got yourself a truly unique Dr.I here.
Best,
Tim
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Nice to see them both side by side. I have one question, the elevator of Jasta 6 is up. Is that possible when the plane stands on the ground?
If the stick is back yes.
Steve
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These are two very colourful Dr 1's Rick. You seem to be able to find some very interesting schemes for them - and they are all new to me!
Stephen.
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Rick, you are not a modeller, you are an artist!!
Willem
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Thanks for all of the comments. They are appreciated! I haven't done a lot due to the Holiday but did manage to add the lower fuselage panel from the Meng kit to MY Roden build. I also painted the CDL background for the lower wing crosses. Finally I painted the eyes on the cowling. Still some tweaking needed 8) All of this is on the Roden Jasta 11 bird.
RAGIII
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Nice progress, RAGIII. I'm glad you got to enjoy the holidays.
Kevin
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The face on the cowling looks great. I could easily believe that that was achieved with transfers.
Stephen.
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That will be a very colorful scheme, Rick.
Happy Holidays
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Nice progress, RAGIII. I'm glad you got to enjoy the holidays.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin!
RAGIII
The face on the cowling looks great. I could easily believe that that was achieved with transfers.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Just a small amount of touch up needed on the brows 8)
RAGIII
That will be a very colorful scheme, Rick.
Happy Holidays
Thanks Ken and yes, colorful indeed!
RAGIII
and the end of yesterdays' session: Both have feet and I added the crosses to the lower wings and rudder on the Rodenstein kit:
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It keeps getting better and better. The MG's look great. Maybe a little touch-up to do on the black and white wheels?
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That pair really are some of the most colourful Dr 1's that I have seen. They are both stunning.
Stephen.
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I think I missed a few steps along the way. That is amazing progress. The paint finishes look gorgeous to me.
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It keeps getting better and better. The MG's look great. Maybe a little touch-up to do on the black and white wheels?
Thanks for the comment and yes, a bit of touch up needed on the wheels and elsewhere 8)
RAGIII
That pair really are some of the most colourful Dr 1's that I have seen. They are both stunning.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I do like the colorful schemes Myself.
RAGIII
I think I missed a few steps along the way. That is amazing progress. The paint finishes look gorgeous to me.
Thanks Will. I have now painted the "New" upper wing of Kirschsteins bird. I just need to decide which I Like bestter ? Both are "Off" just a tad from what I envision as correct ::)
RAGIII
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Amazing progress, Rick! And a lovely contrasting pair of colourful triplanes! Really well done on some adventurous schemes... and don't ask me which upper wing is better, I wouldn't know! I think you need to decide that.... Enjoying these builds very much! Marc
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Amazing progress, Rick! And a lovely contrasting pair of colourful triplanes! Really well done on some adventurous schemes... and don't ask me which upper wing is better, I wouldn't know! I think you need to decide that.... Enjoying these builds very much! Marc
Thanks Marc! I actually made My decision although it involved a bit of a re-paint on the left side of the original wing. I Liked the results and added the upper wing to the finished steps.
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they look stunning, loving your work 8)
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It's all coming together now... Beautifull work Rick!
Willem
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Those bottom 2 wings look out of place now - like they're from a different plane.
This one is coming along nicely, Rick.
So, how many Dr.1s do you have now? ;D
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Oh my , that is gorgeous !
Alexis
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Rick, what a colorful show! Lovely triplanes :-*
Very tempting, since I have about 7 Eduard Dr.I in stock (just counted, 2 x Dual Combo + ...)
Cheers,
Frank
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These are really looking fantastic and I amazed by your speed!!
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Amazing Rick, just amazing... A Fokker Feast.... ATB, Marc.
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they look stunning, loving your work 8)
Thanks For the comments. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
It's all coming together now... Beautifull work Rick!
Willem
Thanks Willem!
RAGIII
Oh my , that is gorgeous !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Those bottom 2 wings look out of place now - like they're from a different plane.
This one is coming along nicely, Rick.
So, how many Dr.1s do you have now? ;D
Thanks Ken. Yeah, maybe that is why Kirschstein painted Every Surface on his DVIIs' with stripes ::) ::) I have four in the case and these two hopefully will make 6 8)
RAGIII
Rick, what a colorful show! Lovely triplanes :-*
Very tempting, since I have about 7 Eduard Dr.I in stock (just counted, 2 x Dual Combo + ...)
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank!
RAGIII
These are really looking fantastic and I amazed by your speed!!
Thanks for looking in and commenting!
RAGIII
Amazing Rick, just amazing... A Fokker Feast.... ATB, Marc.
Thanks Marc!
RAGIII
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Looking Good Rick: I am looking forward to seeing your Steinhauser completed. I am doing it but with the Balkankreuz and the yellow square with red "X". The eyes on the cowling look as good as the ones I have and I used a mask on one the decal from the Hobby Craft kit for the other, not sure which one I will use. The striped one looks good as well. I like your streaking and I will end up trying that on my next DR.I build. Glad to see you had a nice Christmas holiday and look forward to more from you in 2021.
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Looking Good Rick: I am looking forward to seeing your Steinhauser completed. I am doing it but with the Balkankreuz and the yellow square with red "X". The eyes on the cowling look as good as the ones I have and I used a mask on one the decal from the Hobby Craft kit for the other, not sure which one I will use. The striped one looks good as well. I like your streaking and I will end up trying that on my next DR.I build. Glad to see you had a nice Christmas holiday and look forward to more from you in 2021.
Thanks Mark! I still have the brows to touch up later but I am satisfied with the overall results on the eyes. Happy New Year and I am looking forward to seeing the results of your builds!
RAGIII
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My these become more eye-catching with every update. Just super painting Rick.
Stephen.
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My these become more eye-catching with every update. Just super painting Rick.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! My last session of 2020: I added the MGs' and upper wing to the Roden kit and the fuselage crosses to the Meng bird. Now details will be added to both.
RAGIII
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Two very impressive models ther. I really like those colour schemes.
Stephen.
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Wow! That’s a handsome pair of Dreidecker, Rick! Very nicely done, and an inspiration. ;D
Happy 2021!
Best,
Bob
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very nice painting...good work.... and a happy new year
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Rick - those are looking fantastic. Keep up the great work. Your enthusiasm is inspiring!
Cheers,
Gary
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Two very impressive models ther. I really like those colour schemes.
Stephen.
Thanks as always Stephen!
RAGIII
Wow! That’s a handsome pair of Dreidecker, Rick! Very nicely done, and an inspiration. ;D
Happy 2021!
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
very nice painting...good work.... and a happy new year
Thanks for your comments!
RAGIII
Rick - those are looking fantastic. Keep up the great work. Your enthusiasm is inspiring!
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks Gary!
RAGIII
Today I started adding details. Engines and cowlings finished, added a few decals, touched up the struts on the Jasta 11 bird, and added control horns and attached the ailerons.
RAGIII
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Wow, it surely can’t get much better than that.
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Lovely attention to detail on a stunning pair of builds.... Just amazing, Marc.
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Wow, it surely can’t get much better than that.
Thanks William, your comment is Greatly Appreciated.
RAGIII
Lovely attention to detail on a stunning pair of builds.... Just amazing, Marc.
Thanks Marc. I appreciate your support!
RAGIII
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Really looking forward on seeing these beauties cross the finish line ....as of now it just feels like you keep teasing us to the point it tortures us with intisapation ;)
Alexis
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Looking good Amigo !!
Ed
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Really looking forward on seeing these beauties cross the finish line ....as of now it just feels like you keep teasing us to the point it tortures us with intisapation ;)
Alexis
Thanks for the subtle "Get er Done" hint Alexis ::)
RAGIII
Looking good Amigo !!
Ed
Thanks Amigo. It is always Nice to get your opinion on a DR1!
RAGIII
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I can't wait to see these beauty's finished...
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I can't wait to see these beauty's finished...
Thanks for the comment! I may have an update tomorrow just to Tease Alexis 8)
RAGIII
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Such amazing work, I can’t believe it! Great you are near to finish line.
Do you prefer one? Can I ask this?
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Such amazing work, I can’t believe it! Great you are near to finish line.
Do you prefer one? Can I ask this?
Thanks for the kind comment 8) ::) In answer to your question as to My preference I will say I prefer the Meng kit with one caveat. The Roden kit is awesome for being 0ver 15 years old in it's Molding Process! Having built 5 counting the Steinhauser bird , If I had another in the stash I would happily build it! The fact that I was able to easily adjust so many Meng parts to fit is a testament to just how good Rodens rendition was way back then. Look at Marc/ Monty's build and you can get an idea of what can be done without using aftermarket parts, just Old School Modeling. In case you missed it the first Roden kit in this build was finished a while back:
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A few mods using Aviattic and a couple of the actual spare parts from Meng ( Wheels and Axle wing)
RAGIII
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Here is the teaser I promised. I have painted both props, painted the control horns on both, touched up a few things, and added a spent shell chute to the Roden kit using an Aviattic item. This should be one of the last updates. Next up weathering both, then rigging and final touch up.
RAGIII
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Fantastic Rick , looking forward on seeing them in the complete section :)
Alexis
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Fantastic Rick , looking forward on seeing them in the complete section :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. I hope to get a lot done today 8)
RAGIII
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Great builds and I'm picking up a lot of tips for my 1/48 Eduard Dr.1's.
Quick question: On Kirschstein's striped Jasta 6 a/c. How did you handle the underwing cross fields? Did you use a slightly different hue of underside blue or just go the same across the whole wing? I'm just thinking of what was done on the original a/c when the underside crosses on CDL fields were modified.
TIA
Rick in Virginia
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Great builds and I'm picking up a lot of tips for my 1/48 Eduard Dr.1's.
Quick question: On Kirschstein's striped Jasta 6 a/c. How did you handle the underwing cross fields? Did you use a slightly different hue of underside blue or just go the same across the whole wing? I'm just thinking of what was done on the original a/c when the underside crosses on CDL fields were modified.
TIA
Rick in Virginia
Thanks for the comments. Yes, I went with a slightly lighter blue figuring it was fresh vs the bluish turquoise I used for the base color. One could make an argument the other way and use a darker blue figuring the paint faded with age. It is your call. I went lighter because Many feel the blue went with a slightly darker turquoise tint due to the dope overcoat and yellowing with age. ::)
RAGIII
PS: I also brushed the lighter blue on using an OLD bottle of Polyscale I had on hand 8)
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Thanks for the comments. Yes, I went with a slightly lighter blue figuring it was fresh vs the bluish turquoise I used for the base color. One could make an argument the other way and use a darker blue figuring the paint faded with age. It is your call. I went lighter because Many feel the blue went with a slightly darker turquoise tint due to the dope overcoat and yellowing with age. ::)
RAGIII
PS: I also brushed the lighter blue on using an OLD bottle of Polyscale I had on hand 8)
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Thanks for the reply. Your approach and reasoning makes sense to me and I will use a similar scheme when I get to the painting stage
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A small update. I have been working on the Encore Boelke figure from the Albatros DII. I have changed out heads replacing the Encore Boelke with a Generic Head from Manta Figurines.
RAGIII
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RAGIII,
Looking great and the figure has what I would call a very natural stance.
I looks like he’s a bit shy about getting photographed by the press.
Kevin
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I love the figure Rick! Looks very nice.
Best,
Bob
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the figure is great - looks fantastic there with the Dr.I
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RAGIII,
Looking great and the figure has what I would call a very natural stance.
I looks like he’s a bit shy about getting photographed by the press.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. Greatly appreciated. The figure is still a WIP.
RAGIII
I love the figure Rick! Looks very nice.
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob. I appreciate the comments!
RAGIII
the figure is great - looks fantastic there with the Dr.I
Thanks Patrick, as I said to the others, greatly appreciated! Although I am not where I want to be yet I think I am beginning to learn to work with the Valejo flesh tones.
RAGIII
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Your figure is very handsome Rick :)
Alexis
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Your figure is very handsome Rick :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
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I think figures look real easy to paint but they're not. It's real hard to paint figures right but you nailed it.
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I think figures look real easy to paint but they're not. It's real hard to paint figures right but you nailed it.
Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
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Your figure looks very good. I'd like to see a broader shot with more of the plane.
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Your figure looks very good. I'd like to see a broader shot with more of the plane.
Thanks Ken .Just for you 8)
RAGIII
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Super awesome! 8)
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Great figure, the trio of Dr.Is is really great as well.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Super awesome! 8)
Thanks again Ken ;D
RAGIII
Great figure, the trio of Dr.Is is really great as well.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks for commenting Giuseppe! Greatly appreciated.
RAGIII
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Wow!
If you will made an outdoor picture with the right background and some sky it will look real :o
Cheers,
Frank
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It just gets better all the time Rick... Looking just amazing! Marc.
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Just as brilliant as when I last commented! Truly inspirational work all along and the figure(s) really add to the result.
/Fredrik
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Wow!
If you will made an outdoor picture with the right background and some sky it will look real :o
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. Any photo I take outside right now would need to be a Winter Snow scene 8)
RAGIII
It just gets better all the time Rick... Looking just amazing! Marc.
Thanks Marc. Greatly appreciated as always!
RAGIII
Just as brilliant as when I last commented! Truly inspirational work all along and the figure(s) really add to the result.
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik! I appreciate the kind comments!
RAGIII
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Time flies!! Great results
Steve
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An absolute treat Rick, as usual with your work. I'm feeling the urge to take up figure painting again, thanks for the inspiration!
Cheers,
Dave.
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Time flies!! Great results
Steve
Thanks for dropping in and commenting Steve!
RAGIII
An absolute treat Rick, as usual with your work. I'm feeling the urge to take up figure painting again, thanks for the inspiration!
Cheers,
Dave.
Thanks Dave. Glad to hear you are inspired!
RAGIII
and now the last update before completed models on the Kirschstein DR1. I have attached all of the rigging. All that is left is painting the wires and adding My usual smoke and mirrors turnbuckles:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4ZRHDr/IMG-20210112-183318440.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/85ycVSNH/IMG-20210112-183216023.jpg)
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RAGIII,
That’s one dog gone nice looking tri-plane!
Kevin
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Really nice Rick!
And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages... ;D
Guy
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Your apparent photo skills really complement/compliment these outstanding builds.
Gene K
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Really nice Rick!
And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages... ;D
Guy
That's because you don't offer us any coffee or tea ;)
Rick , :) :) :) :) :)
Alexis
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Very nicely done Rick.
Cheers,
Gary
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RAGIII,
That’s one dog gone nice looking tri-plane!
Kevin
Thank you very much Kevin!
RAGIII
Really nice Rick!
And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages... ;D
Guy
Thanks but I am certain there are Many that are wishing I would Get This Over and Done ;D
RAGIII
Your apparent photo skills really complement/compliment these outstanding builds.
Gene K
My photo skills are questionable but improved greatly when I got a smart phone that takes better photos than My camera 8)
RAGIII
Really nice Rick!
And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages... ;D
Guy
That's because you don't offer us any coffee or tea ;)
Rick , :) :) :) :) :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Very nicely done Rick.
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks for the comment Gary, Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
So now the last update before completion on the Roden DR1. It is now in the same place as the Meng kit. Rigging done and just need to paint the wires and add smoke and Mirrors Turnbuckles. Also need to add the step and lift handles to both.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/mgt0WTXm/IMG-20210113-175406334.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d36zw3cx/IMG-20210113-175450372.jpg)
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You know , I'm really starting too feel like I'm being left out of the loop with out a Fokker build going on , You are the Fokker King Rick !
Alexis
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A flurry of fokkers indeed! Brilliant work Rick. Well done indeed. Cheers Matt
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Also this Fokker is superlative, RAGIII!
A lot to learn from you in these builds.
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Outstanding paint jobs and modelling! Very pleasing to the eye!
/Fredrik
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That are two really lovely planes. I like the paintscheme's a lot.
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You know , I'm really starting too feel like I'm being left out of the loop with out a Fokker build going on , You are the Fokker King Rick !
Alexis
Don't feel left out Alexis. I will soon be starting a Nieuport...a 28 in My case ::)
RAGIII
A flurry of fokkers indeed! Brilliant work Rick. Well done indeed. Cheers Matt
Thanks Matt. I appreciate you dropping in and commenting!
RAGIII
Also this Fokker is superlative, RAGIII!
A lot to learn from you in these builds.
Thanks for the comments! It is nice being connected on FB now!
RAGIII
Outstanding paint jobs and modelling! Very pleasing to the eye!
/Fredrik
Thanks for your continued support Fredrik!
RAGIII
That are two really lovely planes. I like the paintscheme's a lot.
Thanks for the comments! Greatly appreciated. I am calling this thread done. I just need to paint the tailskids, (I almost forgot), then do a photo shoot.
RAGIII
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I will post photos in completed Models soon: Thanks to all for the support!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fsz3wp5y/IMG-20210115-190817791.jpg)
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Those have become some very fine 'dreideckers' Rick - Truely flying Circus worthy!
Cheers: Kent
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that's an awesome looking pair of builds 8)
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Just so good to look at those two, Rick! A pleasure and an inspiration! ATB, Marc
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Most impressive Rick 1 Looking forward on view more pictures of these very fine builds ! :)
Alexis
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Just lovely!
/Fredrik
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Thanks all! The link to the Photos in Completed Models:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11846.0
RAGIII