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Title: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on September 12, 2020, 08:31:12 AM
So with the SPADS out of the way I am adding another Dual Build. I will be doing Kirschsteins Jasta 6 Striped Optical Illusion and a more obscure Jasta 4 DR1. Not sure which one will be which at this stage. By the way I will still be working on the CSM Nieuport and Roden Pfalz also  ::) After Market stuff includes Aviattic PE, Cowling, and Seat, Eduard and Part PE, and finally a WNW URII engine!

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx0sp715/119204704-3965549986805377-3221863464652195214-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/wvnDfcZ6/119218340-3965550080138701-8026499578784698629-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/857hmnyK/119363119-3965550146805361-3846970777085195543-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on September 12, 2020, 01:26:57 PM
I gotta tell ya Rick:  You're a modeling machine.  Looking forward to seeing these two unfold under  your skillful hands.  Gonna be a fun pair for sure.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gisbod on September 12, 2020, 03:49:55 PM
Great to have another MENG build along Rick!

Will be interesting to see how they compare.. is there a big difference from what you see in the boxes?

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Europapete on September 12, 2020, 08:59:26 PM
Oooohhh.....nice project Rick. Will be interesting to see a side by side comparison. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on September 12, 2020, 09:12:51 PM
I've been looking forward to a comparison like this Rick! In yourvery capable hands itwill be a lot of fun, interesting and a learning experience.... Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on September 12, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
I gotta tell ya Rick:  You're a modeling machine.  Looking forward to seeing these two unfold under  your skillful hands.  Gonna be a fun pair for sure.

Basically waht Mark said , you're a building machine . Tagging along for the ride ! :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gene K on September 12, 2020, 11:03:41 PM
I am also seated, professor.

Thanks.

Gene K
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on September 12, 2020, 11:59:53 PM
Straight at it again! No risk that you lose any of your modelling skills due to inactivity!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: gedmundson on September 13, 2020, 12:28:55 AM
Following with keen interest Rick. Should be a ton of fun putting these kits together in tandem.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 13, 2020, 12:45:07 AM
Thanks Guys and Gal! I will need a day or two to do a MAJOR Desk and Model room cleaning  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on September 13, 2020, 06:15:31 AM
Two more! How do you do it Rick? I have difficulties enough building one model at a time, not four!

I will still tag along though if you do not mind - some of your techniques are well worth stealing er borrowing.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on September 13, 2020, 06:34:54 AM
You need it complicated? ???
At first three SPADs at once, then Nieuport and Pfalz and now in parallel two Dr.I ?
Cool! 8)
I'm sure you will have a lot of fun and we will see a nice result.

Have fun with this new project!
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 13, 2020, 06:43:36 AM
Two more! How do you do it Rick? I have difficulties enough building one model at a time, not four!

I will still tag along though if you do not mind - some of your techniques are well worth stealing er borrowing.

Stephen.

Really no secret here. It takes Me four times as long as one  8) I am about halfway through MY cleaning session, still have the Desk to do !
RAGIII


You need it complicated? ???
At first three SPADs at once, then Nieuport and Pfalz and now in parallel two Dr.I ?
Cool! 8)
I'm sure you will have a lot of fun and we will see a nice result.

Have fun with this new project!
Frank

In an abstract way after finishing the SPADS and adding these two I am still down one from Five to Four  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 15, 2020, 06:14:09 AM
So, I have started cleaning up some of the Major components and comparing to drawings. I am waiting for Ray to approve My request to use some WS drawings with the parts overlaid so today I will just post some comparison photos of the Major parts. First the Reference I am using:



(https://i.postimg.cc/WzVf8rkD/119523242-3974842889209420-6173320520420188373-o.jpg)

The wings: Roden parts on Top.


(https://i.postimg.cc/522TDwkL/119527905-3974736505886725-2110204008467675941-n.jpg)

Next the tail surfaces, rudder, and axle wing. Roden parts on the left other than the Aileron which has the Roden Part on the bottom:



(https://i.postimg.cc/g0w52Gp0/119576546-3974736739220035-4164227996768076477-n.jpg)



More close ups of the wings: Meng above Roden.


(https://i.postimg.cc/x1phQcW7/119587929-3974736592553383-172973549952299379-n.jpg)


Lower wings: Meng above Roden.



(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq1Q9XYx/119630094-3974736682553374-8502006955961403282-o.jpg)

Right and left fuselage Halves. Roden on the top for each:



(https://i.postimg.cc/SsCvcVJF/119676232-3974736389220070-371544686644981072-n.jpg)

Obviously the Meng parts are more detailed. Both kits Match the Drawings in 1/32nd scale featured in Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln by GvW and Windsock, with a couple of exceptions on the Roden kit.
RAGIII


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on September 15, 2020, 10:34:06 AM
Nice comparison of the two kits Rick  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 16, 2020, 11:20:45 PM
Nice comparison of the two kits Rick  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri.

 I have received permission from Ray Rimell to use the 1/32nd scale drawings from the Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln book in order to show the relative differences in the two kits. All drawings are copyright of Albatros Publications and should not be shared without permission.

RAGIII


Roden kit upper and Mid wing, Tail and elevator. The elevator is slightly off shape. ( Note that the wing tips have not been attached!

(https://i.postimg.cc/3rgpJ1h5/119634729-3978633555497020-5139932805807605748-n.jpg)



Same parts from the Meng kit:

(https://i.postimg.cc/8C9WsnsD/119609375-3978633825496993-7265023188465220482-n.jpg)


The left fuselage from Roden. ( The fuselage is not over long as it "Appears" in the photo. My Lousy photography is responsible)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7hVf1BP5/119647760-3978635872163455-9151296344184928309-o.jpg)



The Left Fuselage from Meng. ( Same note on the length as before!

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCyLyy6g/119640478-3978634942163548-8883348325918974050-o.jpg)



The Roden Rudder:


(https://i.postimg.cc/KvGKcyQB/119704490-3978635508830158-6452348483692078086-n.jpg)



Resin rudder from Encore:

(https://i.postimg.cc/q7h6fXwF/119665492-3978635618830147-2093470275472454440-n.jpg)




The Meng Rudder:

(https://i.postimg.cc/gkgxnBB5/119650006-3978635765496799-2110091109933152205-n.jpg)




Roden Axle wing:

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyZV94s4/119654720-3978634202163622-7834177661514346926-n.jpg)



Finally, the Meng Axle wing:

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxcydB59/119770393-3978634115496964-3864901706649511515-n.jpg)


I want to emphasize that these were hasty photos and the ultimate comparison will be forthcoming in the Albatros Publications book on building the Fokker DR1 ! This is just to give a general idea of the differences.






Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on September 17, 2020, 09:31:35 AM
Over all there really isn't much of a difference at all . A few small things which should be easy fixes if one chooses to do so .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 17, 2020, 11:16:04 PM
Over all there really isn't much of a difference at all . A few small things which should be easy fixes if one chooses to do so .


Terri


Shape wise that is certainly true although I have been told there is a significant difference in the circumference of the cowl and forward fuselage. Detail wise the Meng kit is far and away superior. That being said, the Roden kit can be built to a high standard as Many of our Forum Members have shown!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 18, 2020, 12:31:27 AM
If you need anything cutting, don't be shy to ask.

Good luck!

vB  :)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on September 18, 2020, 03:57:35 AM
I'm following along on this one, Rick.  As you know, I have built a Roden Dr.1 and have a Meng Dr.1 in the stash.  This is the first modeling subject I have ever bought two of.
I would bet the rudder curvature ended up different on every DR.1 made, as well as on every drawing made, as curves like that (changing radius) are very difficult to reproduce exactly.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 18, 2020, 07:31:29 AM
If you need anything cutting, don't be shy to ask.

Good luck!

vB  :)

Thanks Bob. I know I will need to order some Strippers and will let you know if any "Special" masks become necessary  8)
 RAGIII


I'm following along on this one, Rick.  As you know, I have built a Roden Dr.1 and have a Meng Dr.1 in the stash.  This is the first modeling subject I have ever bought two of.
I would bet the rudder curvature ended up different on every DR.1 made, as well as on every drawing made, as curves like that (changing radius) are very difficult to reproduce exactly.



I am of course Familiar with your Roden DR1 build. I am sure you will find the Meng kit to be a joy to build. This will be MY 5th Roden DR1 build so My plan is to correct some of the things I just let go by with the other 4  ::)  Now that I have looked the parts over I plan to really start building soon!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: jeroen_R90S on September 20, 2020, 03:20:07 AM
Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.

Jeroen
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 20, 2020, 03:29:26 AM
Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.

Jeroen

You are correct about the Roden rudder being slightly out of alignment. For My build I will use the Encore resin rudder as it is close but a bit oversized so can be carved to a more correct shape.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on September 20, 2020, 05:15:56 AM
Some very useful comparative notes here Rick which I am usre many people are going to find very useful.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Europapete on September 20, 2020, 05:17:11 AM
Errr.....Richard, does your wife know you will be ordering some strippers?  Aviattic makes an accurate rudder. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gisbod on September 20, 2020, 05:29:52 AM
Quite surprised how decent the Roden kit looks. To be fair I havenít actually made a Roden kit yet! Be interesting to see how the fit compares.

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 20, 2020, 07:27:23 AM
Great job on the side by side comparison Amigo.   Look forward to the builds. have you decided on the schemes ?

Ed 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 20, 2020, 11:41:42 AM
Some very useful comparative notes here Rick which I am usre many people are going to find very useful.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen.
RAGIII


Errr.....Richard, does your wife know you will be ordering some strippers?  Aviattic makes an accurate rudder. Regards, Pete in RI


Shhhh  8) As for the Aviattic Rudder I am aware. I just don't have the funds to do all I might like. The Encore rudder will look fine when I am done, At least I hope  ;D
RAGIII


Quite surprised how decent the Roden kit looks. To be fair I havenít actually made a Roden kit yet! Be interesting to see how the fit compares.

Guy

Roden makes basically Good Kits. Only the introduction of WNW made them look substandard. Had WNW never appeared Roden would have been the standard of 1/32nd scale WW1 and we would have been fine with the kits! JMHO.
RAGIII


Great job on the side by side comparison Amigo.   Look forward to the builds. have you decided on the schemes ?

Ed 

Thanks Amigo, I hope to start soon on actually building. I sort of got involved in My other Dual build today  :o By the way, yes I have decided on schemes. I will do the Meng kit as Kirschsteins Stripey Jasta 6 bird and the Roden will be a Jasta 4 DR1 with a white- black- white- black-white sash on the fuselage, and blue tail, cowling, and struts.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on September 20, 2020, 06:40:18 PM
Interesting and thorough comparisons, so far Rick! We are going on a great journey here... I'm very tempted to do the same kind of thing.... There are quite a few problems with the Roden kit I will definitely ignore! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 21, 2020, 01:17:36 AM
Interesting and thorough comparisons, so far Rick! We are going on a great journey here... I'm very tempted to do the same kind of thing.... There are quite a few problems with the Roden kit I will definitely ignore! Regards, Marc.

Thanks for the comments. I am going to attempt to fix "Most" of the issues....we shall see  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Pup7309 on September 21, 2020, 07:56:19 PM
Following this with interest!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: jeroen_R90S on September 22, 2020, 04:43:06 PM
Thanks for this comparison! Really helpful for when I get to my Roden kit.
Is it an optical effect, but it seems the Roden rudder is not entirely aligned with the rear fuselage on the drawing? (pointing a bit up?)
The discrepancy on the rudder is smaller then I thought when I read some reviews pointing this out.

Jeroen

You are correct about the Roden rudder being slightly out of alignment. For My build I will use the Encore resin rudder as it is close but a bit oversized so can be carved to a more correct shape.
RAGIII

At least my eyes aren't fooling me  ;D I do kind of wonder how it looks when aligned with the fuselage -it would seem that lower curve would match up a bit better.
I'm following with interest as well :)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: fredjocko on September 26, 2020, 12:45:42 AM
So, you now have two dual builds going?? How do you keep things organized?? I cannot wait to see your results.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 26, 2020, 01:06:34 AM
So, you now have two dual builds going?? How do you keep things organized?? I cannot wait to see your results.

Yes, two dual builds. Today I will be doing some cleaning up if parts and preliminary painting on this one...I Hope  8) As for organization, What is that ?  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on September 26, 2020, 09:26:04 AM
Nice comparison Rick:  As said, Roden makes basically a good kit.  I have built two the DR.i's and the last one I enjoyed building.  Some small challenges but an OOB build that turned out better than I thought it would.  It compares favorably to the MENG kit or the Meng Kit compares favorably with the Roden Kit!  I will be watching along as you go through the build.  I am going to finish a D.VII I started back in Wisconsin then hit the Hobby Craft DR.I.  I don't think I have ever seen one done or build log on it.  Should be fun. 
As Bruno Stackle would say:  "Model on"!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Borsos on September 26, 2020, 06:54:07 PM
Another fascinating project, Rick. And like the others said a very helpful comparision between the two kits. I am keen on seeing both build up  :)
Andreas
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 26, 2020, 09:40:11 PM
Nice comparison Rick:  As said, Roden makes basically a good kit.  I have built two the DR.i's and the last one I enjoyed building.  Some small challenges but an OOB build that turned out better than I thought it would.  It compares favorably to the MENG kit or the Meng Kit compares favorably with the Roden Kit!  I will be watching along as you go through the build.  I am going to finish a D.VII I started back in Wisconsin then hit the Hobby Craft DR.I.  I don't think I have ever seen one done or build log on it.  Should be fun. 
As Bruno Stackle would say:  "Model on"!


Thanks Mark. This will be MY 5th Roden DR1. I am really looking forward to seeing you tackle the Hobby Craft kit. Sometime today I will post a couple of update photos on the comparison. 
RAGIII


Another fascinating project, Rick. And like the others said a very helpful comparision between the two kits. I am keen on seeing both build up  :)
Andreas

Thanks Andreas. I made some small progress yesterday. I did get an answer from Ray Rimell reference the axle wing for DR1 586/17. It will use the narrower chord version so I will try to adapt the full chord version to the Roden kit. Saves a lot of Sanding Time  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Europapete on September 27, 2020, 06:02:54 AM
Did Ray give any hint on when his book will be ready? Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2020, 07:53:15 AM
Did Ray give any hint on when his book will be ready? Regards, Pete in RI

Sorry, but No. On the other hand his build of the F1 seems to be progressing quickly on FB so we can hope it is the last one to be documented  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2020, 11:54:02 AM
So a bit of progress. First the Roden rudder correctly positioned on the Drawing.



(https://i.postimg.cc/nzbhbj2G/120332934-4016050968421945-5501977659651569004-n.jpg)


Thanks to Forum Member Pete the Aviattic Rudder:


(https://i.postimg.cc/mgnrj6Fq/120245650-4016051051755270-5792393453694094554-n.jpg)


The Part PE frets:



(https://i.postimg.cc/43hxSb63/120200128-4016051141755261-250457275886344613-n.jpg)


Now for the progress. I have begun basic painting of both interiors. I also added the fabrick portion above the bulkhead on the Roden kit using sheet styrene.


(https://i.postimg.cc/zBCXJzPZ/120292141-4016051745088534-857977067295015064-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/pXqrhdVP/120314503-4016051675088541-1030527014401190312-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/1XMmqWQv/120346168-4016051575088551-5375617192019762004-n.jpg)


RAGIII


PS: The triangular framework on the Roden kit is from the Eduard PE set. Still lots to do and touch up  8)











Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on September 27, 2020, 02:35:59 PM
RAGIII,
Thanks for demonstrating the short comings of the Roden kit. I've got a few of those in the stash so your build will serve as a great tutorial.

                                                                                                                                                                    Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on September 27, 2020, 10:25:29 PM
Nice start, there Rick! Not sure whether that fabric extension above the rear cockpit bulkhead will be at all visible though! I'm going to leave it off if it doesn't show! I am following with interest! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2020, 11:02:11 PM
RAGIII,
Thanks for demonstrating the short comings of the Roden kit. I've got a few of those in the stash so your build will serve as a great tutorial.

                                                                                                                                                                    Kevin


Thanks for the comment Kevin. I hope in the end rather than the shortcomings of the Roden kit we will see the Possibilities  ;D
RAGIII


Nice start, there Rick! Not sure whether that fabric extension above the rear cockpit bulkhead will be at all visible though! I'm going to leave it off if it doesn't show! I am following with interest! Regards, Marc

Thanks Marc. This is the first time I have bothered to add that fabric extension. We shall see how it goes  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on September 28, 2020, 01:49:13 AM
Nice to see some paint laid down , both are starting to shape up with their inners excellently .  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 28, 2020, 03:14:03 AM
Nice to see some paint laid down , both are starting to shape up with their inners excellently .  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. I did just a Tad more today. I am going with Richard Alexander's theory on the red/brown primer  8) May or May not be valid but it will be different from MY other builds!
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/90Z4nDkv/120356681-4018565601503815-6264327379939532022-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 28, 2020, 06:57:17 AM
More progress:
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/c187R4sS/120260309-4019029678124074-9151148481186834648-n.jpg)

and the Roden kit: I see from the photo I have some touch up needed on the frame. I went with Valejo German Dark Grey instead of black to reduce the starkness.



(https://i.postimg.cc/sg2RLLH3/120347755-4019029844790724-3849848998363726068-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on September 28, 2020, 08:38:21 AM
Framing looks good in place on both .  :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Europapete on September 28, 2020, 08:42:25 AM
Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 28, 2020, 09:39:34 AM
Framing looks good in place on both .  :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o


Terri

The framing is not glued on either kit but thanks, I think they are looking pretty good.
RAGIII

Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI


Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: GazzaS on September 29, 2020, 05:23:22 PM
Nice, Rick!  Your multi-builds are very impressive!  Wish I had your stamina.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 29, 2020, 10:54:35 PM
Nice, Rick!  Your multi-builds are very impressive!  Wish I had your stamina.

Thanks Gaz!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on September 30, 2020, 12:31:09 AM
Nice paint, Rick. 
Do I understand correctly that the Dr.1s have that huge T handle on the right side of the cockpit for the pump to pressurize the fuel tank?

Any pictures of the real thing you can post?
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2020, 01:22:54 AM
Nice paint, Rick. 
Do I understand correctly that the Dr.1s have that huge T handle on the right side of the cockpit for the pump to pressurize the fuel tank?

Any pictures of the real thing you can post?

I don't think it is a "Pump' to pressurize. My understanding is the  Cross member forming the T is actually a valve handle. It was connected to the throttle and or could be operated manually, and also used like a blip switch. There was a Video on FB a few weeks ago showing it in operation on one of the Replicas. I know it is visible in the photo of the crash of 591/17. I will check for more images. By the way, I think the one in the kit is somewhat oversized but I am not going to change it on this one  8) IIRC there was no need for a Pressurization pump like on Mercedes and other inline engine powered aircraft. (I honestly don't remember why)
RAGIII


PS: Here is a Link to Lloyds Fokker DR1 website showing the aforementioned 591/17

http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Dr1-591-17%20crach.jpg

PPS: Looking at the photo again, I am Very Tempted to cut away what is supplied in the kit and replace with My own  ::)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on September 30, 2020, 05:59:38 AM
I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.

Cheers Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2020, 11:24:02 AM
I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.

Cheers Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik! I do Make silly/simple mistakes! I was not satisfied with the bulkhead using the PE part from Part PE... ::) I had a surplus bulkhead from an old kit so I proceeded to do it myself with stitching from wire. I added a lot of oil weathering as this one represents a former Jasta 11 bird handed down to Jasta 4. THe New one is on the right of the photo.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/kgddDYfm/120521676-4025874390772936-1880010257656097471-o-1.jpg)

and just the two I will use: Meng and Roden Modified:Touch up required  :(

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8kywZnD/120490188-4026069250753450-996096262480447806-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 30, 2020, 04:35:08 PM
Nicely done, Rick!

vB  :)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2020, 11:24:53 PM
Nicely done, Rick!

vB  :)

Thanks Bob. I hope to get a lot more done today  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 01, 2020, 04:13:09 AM
Framing looks good in place on both .  :) The redbrown and black are starting to grow on me ,,,, :o


Terri

The framing is not glued on either kit but thanks, I think they are looking pretty good.
RAGIII

Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI


Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII


Does make for a nice contrast!

Ed
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 01, 2020, 06:02:56 AM
Looks good!

Thanks also for new picture of the Roden rudder on the drawing, I think I'll sand the attachment part at a slight angle to even out the incorrect looking curves on the forward and lower parts and live with it. Thanks again, I noted this in my instructions when I get to mine one day...

Jeroen
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 01, 2020, 08:25:56 AM

Looking great Rick! I kinda like the new red/black theory, nice color palette. Regards, Pete in RI


Thanks. I kind of like the"New" look myself.
RAGIII
[/quote]


Does make for a nice contrast!

Ed
[/quote]

Yes it does Amigo. Not 100% convinced as to accuracy. My Only real misgiving is that Many serious researchers viewed the photos that Richard Alexander viewed and none seem to have come to the conclusion of red primer. Of course there May be More I don't know about. As Ray Rimell seems to be on board with the conclusion I figured I would roll with it  8)
RAGIII


Looks good!

Thanks also for new picture of the Roden rudder on the drawing, I think I'll sand the attachment part at a slight angle to even out the incorrect looking curves on the forward and lower parts and live with it. Thanks again, I noted this in my instructions when I get to mine one day...

Jeroen

Thanks Jeroen! Yes if using the kit rudder an angled cut will help. Perhaps why I originally lined things up the way I did.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Pup7309 on October 01, 2020, 12:43:14 PM
Wow awesome work, following with interest
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 01, 2020, 10:56:24 PM
Wow awesome work, following with interest


Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2020, 05:02:21 AM
I'm also impressed by your multitude of multiple builds. I find that I sometimes lose focus and make silly mistakes when building several models at the same time, but you just cruise through them it seems.

Cheers Fredrik

Here is one for You Fredrik  :o 

First I took the Gear legs from a scrapped Roden DR1 and carved them to fit the Meng Axle wing. I am sure they will need tweaking but the results are promising!


(https://i.postimg.cc/MK3xXL7v/120250901-248948906535318-1023463626824792134-n.jpg)



Next is the Silly Mistake. I took the "Unused" Control stick from the Meng kit and Modified it to the Standard type.Attached it to the Roden floor with No problem. It was then that I realized that the "Unused" stick is the Late Type that probably was correct for 586/17! All I really needed to do was use it on the Meng kit and the one called for in the instructions on the Roden. Oh Well Not much I can do now  ::)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2020, 07:36:15 AM
The end of todays session:
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/VL33p0Xk/120674366-4032489113444797-5283791995573100676-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gisbod on October 02, 2020, 08:11:42 AM
Looks great Rick!

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2020, 08:38:54 AM
Looks great Rick!

Guy

Thanks Guy!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 02, 2020, 05:50:32 PM

Here is one for You Fredrik  :o 


[..] Silly Mistake. I took the "Unused" Control stick from the Meng kit and Modified it to the Standard type.Attached it to the Roden floor with No problem. It was then that I realized that the "Unused" stick is the Late Type that probably was correct for 586/17! All I really needed to do was use it on the Meng kit and the one called for in the instructions on the Roden. Oh Well Not much I can do now  ::)

RAGIII

Feels good to know that you too end up there from time to time... ;D
Good that it was a relatively simple mistake and correctable.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 03, 2020, 11:09:20 PM
You are making pretty good progress on these Rick , looking very excellent  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: andonio64 on October 04, 2020, 12:51:49 AM

Nice, Rick!  Your multi-builds are very impressive!  Wish I had your stamina.

SO DO I!!!!

;-)

Great dual build Rick: a really interesting comparison of these two kits

Antonio
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 01:04:44 AM
You are making pretty good progress on these Rick , looking very excellent  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII



Nice, Rick!  Your multi-builds are very impressive!  Wish I had your stamina.

SO DO I!!!!

;-)

Great dual build Rick: a really interesting comparison of these two kits

Antonio

 8)

RAGIII

A very Small update: I was Talking to Kreston about using the Meng tailplane. Well Since I had the F1 tail handy I started cutting it down to match the Roden kit. Not much work at all and does look better than Rodens. To make it a perfect fit for the Roden Elevators I would need to remove the section penciled in on the Meng tail and add about 5 thou. to each end. I am debating about that part.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZYqnZnq/120707592-381439646355197-8761471063039511072-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/1z8Pb7dT/120810515-326641298430839-8830253355216967875-n-1.jpg)


and this is the scheme for the Roden kit: The one on the bottom  ;D



(https://i.postimg.cc/HnDpw0BN/120357190-473317690292181-5161306506750109406-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 04, 2020, 02:00:43 AM
RAGIII,
Thanks for providing the information about cross kitting the extra parts from the Meng kit.
That color scheme will look fabulous. I assume the information is from Americal-Gryphon.
 
                                                                                       Thanks again,
                                                                                                 Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 02:05:01 AM
RAGIII,
Thanks for providing the information about cross kitting the extra parts from the Meng kit.
That color scheme will look fabulous. I assume the information is from Americal-Gryphon.
 
                                                                                       Thanks again,
                                                                                                 Kevin

You are welcome and yes, AG. It is also seen in Photo J4/5 in Greg van Wyngardens Albatros Publications Fokker DR1 Jagdstaffeln book.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kkarlsen on October 04, 2020, 03:24:25 AM
I'm getting a kind of dejavue feeling with your Fokker builds Rick, good show!

Kent
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 03:55:47 AM
I'm getting a kind of dejavue feeling with your Fokker builds Rick, good show!

Kent

Thanks Kent! Your Jasta 11 lineup was quite inspirational! By the way, I must say I am pleased to see all of the other Roden builds going on here. Hopefully this will encourage Roden even more than the Poll!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kkarlsen on October 04, 2020, 04:31:23 AM
'My sentiments exactly' Rick - We have to fire up under Roden, to bring out some of the kits we watched disappear in the horizon, not so long ago!

At least to the point were we get the B.e.2c!!!!!

Kent
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 05:21:05 AM
'My sentiments exactly' Rick - We have to fire up under Roden, to bring out some of the kits we watched disappear in the horizon, not so long ago!

At least to the point were we get the B.e.2c!!!!!

Kent


For Me it would be a BE12, or SE5.  8) One more VERY SMALL UPDATE: I decided it would be easier and closer to the drawings to just cut New Elevators from styrene sheet so here is the rough result:
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/nrLPL2jm/120812902-4039002009460174-4033394310232574407-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 08:31:31 AM
This is where I am as of the end of todays session:
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/X7xyd0Hd/120910888-4039493366077705-4856036441299320835-o.jpg)

one more plus Voss:

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1YFcRd1/120589642-4039512902742418-460757070613533344-o.jpg)

I am working on the Voss figure in the back for the Corona GB.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 04, 2020, 09:55:23 AM
RAGIII,
Thatís a nice bit of progress youíve made. Theyíre looking great.

                                                                   Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 04, 2020, 10:32:39 AM
RAGIII,
Thatís a nice bit of progress youíve made. Theyíre looking great.

                                                                   Kevin

Thanks Kevin. I will start to detail and rig tomorrow.

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 04, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
Really like the work you are doing on the Roden kit and that so far is excellent . Tail unit is looking great so far and I look forward on it's progress .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: pepperman42 on October 05, 2020, 12:50:31 AM
I go away for a few days and come back to this!!! Great work and proof the Roden is still in the ballpark!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 05, 2020, 09:43:55 AM
Really like the work you are doing on the Roden kit and that so far is excellent . Tail unit is looking great so far and I look forward on it's progress .


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII


I go away for a few days and come back to this!!! Great work and proof the Roden is still in the ballpark!!!

Steve

Thanks for looking in and the comment Steve!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: fredjocko on October 05, 2020, 09:56:09 PM
Both kits are looking fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 05, 2020, 10:31:14 PM
Both kits are looking fantastic!!!

Thanks!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: gedmundson on October 06, 2020, 12:17:58 AM
Great work, Rick - you're making excellent progress.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on October 06, 2020, 02:34:26 AM
Awesome work there, Rick! And very helpful for me! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on October 06, 2020, 02:46:33 AM
You made a good progress over the last weeks! Both will look nice at the end.

Reminds me of a half finished Eduard Dr.I in red ::) Should restart that project one day ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2020, 06:08:02 AM
Great work, Rick - you're making excellent progress.
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks Gary!
RAGIII


Awesome work there, Rick! And very helpful for me! Regards, Marc

Thanks Marc. Your DR1 is looking spiffy!
RAGIII


You made a good progress over the last weeks! Both will look nice at the end.

Reminds me of a half finished Eduard Dr.I in red ::) Should restart that project one day ...

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank! I would love to see anything you choose to revive as your builds are always Superb!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2020, 10:42:23 PM
I have not spent much time at the bench so just a quick update. Worked on the Roden upper wing using a Pounce wheel and gently bent the Meng Elevator to an articulated position.

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqd5SpcV/120928191-4046003595426682-857167626319866024-o.jpg)

I made a little more orogress today: Next up control and bracing wires then final detail painting.



(https://i.postimg.cc/4N3mw117/120998694-4049178858442489-1652396921425286938-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/6qb6FDh7/121039772-4049178678442507-1224215271021276023-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/tgFT7v9f/121011380-4049186061775102-562362197023559068-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/C1YK8C1K/121013099-4049254671768241-584901353013166741-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Sx2jbN3m/121013803-4049254731768235-4701682428564309612-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRc5x9Bx/121017916-4049254588434916-7026053507269154837-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 07, 2020, 09:15:27 PM
Might not have the time Rick , but your still able to show us some excellent progress .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 07, 2020, 09:22:22 PM
Great looking work! It'll be a fairly busy cockpit when finished.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 07, 2020, 11:44:04 PM
Might not have the time Rick , but your still able to show us some excellent progress .


Terri

Thanks Terri. I finally got to the bench yesterday  ;D
RAGIII

Great looking work! It'll be a fairly busy cockpit when finished.
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik. Yes the cockpit still has a few items left and it is sort of busy. Still debatiing about a map pouch in the Roden kit  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 08, 2020, 06:05:38 AM
Just catching up Rick. You have come on a long way since I last dropped in and my you have some super detail in those cockpits. Shame to cover them up!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 08, 2020, 06:32:02 AM
Just catching up Rick. You have come on a long way since I last dropped in and my you have some super detail in those cockpits. Shame to cover them up!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen and the next photos will show just how much gets covered  ;D
RAGIII


So today I finished(except for the grips on the control column) the Roden interior. Although they don't show up in the photos control wires are present. First photo shows a test fit then I progressed to gluing it all together.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/LsfwbTgB/121111064-4052425888117786-8757888135986639993-n.jpg)



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(https://i.postimg.cc/6q6PTxjY/121082456-4052592648101110-5696827120641141769-o.jpg)


and what will be seen  8)



(https://i.postimg.cc/yxfbZp2B/121071215-4052621854764856-6112886409978925848-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 08, 2020, 08:23:54 AM
Last one for today: I have cleaned up the filled seam:
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/nhZMSdWp/120854488-4052919598068415-3050522866552261277-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 08, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
You had a good day in front of bench ! :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Pup7309 on October 08, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Great work. Will be interested to see the middle wing group in on the Mengnuts. Was the front cockpit attachment broken? About half seem to be turning us that way. Daz
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 08, 2020, 11:21:52 PM
You had a good day in front of bench ! :)


Terri

Yep, if today's session goes as well as yesterday the Meng kit will be closed up also  8)
RAGIII


Great work. Will be interested to see the middle wing group in on the Mengnuts. Was the front cockpit attachment broken? About half seem to be turning us that way. Daz

Thanks! Mine was totally intact!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 08, 2020, 11:56:58 PM
Looking sharp!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 09, 2020, 02:15:42 AM
Looking very good Rick, even if it will not be very clear!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 09, 2020, 05:49:33 AM
Looking sharp!

Thanks Jeroen!
RAGIII


Looking very good Rick, even if it will not be very clear!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. Your continued support is appreciated! As are all of the others!!!!
RAGIII

So todays mission was getting the Meng kit in line with the Roden build.....Mission accomplished  ;D
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/L4JCp4JX/121153525-4056039764423065-2192703734956889611-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/G25yKCRg/121164320-4056039421089766-8942389525032232700-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/FscTYPgX/121120296-4056039947756380-5331652042743132380-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/LXXPjscZ/121189881-4056039841089724-4252295350065074351-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2TXqcFx/121191475-4056040597756315-4608140510756660994-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on October 09, 2020, 09:00:16 AM
Looks awesome, Rick.  I really love what you are doing with these builds!
Dan
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 09, 2020, 09:17:02 AM
Moving along !!!

Ed
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 09, 2020, 09:44:26 AM
Looks awesome, Rick.  I really love what you are doing with these builds!
Dan


Thanks Dan! I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII



Moving along !!!

Ed
[/quote]

Thanks Amigo! Here is the last from today. Elevators added to the Modified Meng F1 tail on the Roden kit. I also used the Aviattic elevator control horns.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/50GL7cv0/121152890-4056491291044579-3766429553036308140-o.jpg)






Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 09, 2020, 10:13:29 AM
So I lied as usual: Two More: I have used the Meng PE access hatch on the right fuselage and the Aviattic on the left for the Roden kit:

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/N0s6LkBg/121132657-4056615671032141-8229773395633523357-o.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/9QtPWn38/121174263-4056626517697723-1407899348355680825-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: smperry on October 09, 2020, 10:21:35 AM
How do you say, "Mix and Match" in German?

Great work Rick. I really like how you use the different parts where they are needed regardless where they came from. Real modeling as opposed to mere assembling.
sp
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 09, 2020, 11:05:00 AM
Sp , in German it would be ....Mischen und Anpassen !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 10, 2020, 11:36:48 PM
How do you say, "Mix and Match" in German?

Great work Rick. I really like how you use the different parts where they are needed regardless where they came from. Real modeling as opposed to mere assembling.
sp

Thanks SP! The Myriad of extra parts from Meng and all of the PE I collected over the years are coming in Handy. Also got a few gifted parts from Pete.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 11, 2020, 02:45:14 AM
Excellent work, Rick!
Keep going...

Cheers,
Von B  ;)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2020, 07:55:30 AM
Excellent work, Rick!
Keep going...

Cheers,
Von B  ;)

Thanks Bob!

I have added the Aviattic PE for the lower fuselage, access hatch and firewall. I wasn't certain if the angled piece from the firewall should be under or over the lower fuselage portion so just went for it. If it is wrong  :-X

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/SNZjsPbg/121214259-4062643553762686-6054770222529124802-n.jpg)

I also finished "Nailing" all of the ribs on the other two wings.


(https://i.postimg.cc/QdHCWqXh/121259381-4062644603762581-4035990657638384358-n.jpg)


PS: Sometimes you just have to go back and do it Right:



(https://i.postimg.cc/50FkHTrL/121302221-4062781447082230-4587348862496668919-o.jpg)



Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 11, 2020, 09:54:58 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like your "Walking Point" on this one with the use of the Aviattic photo-etch. I have them but, as yet, haven't seen them used by anyone.
These build are coming together fast.
                                                                     Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2020, 11:20:54 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like your "Walking Point" on this one with the use of the Aviattic photo-etch. I have them but, as yet, haven't seen them used by anyone.
These build are coming together fast.
                                                                     Kevin

Thanks Kevin. I stared at the photo of the original installation for about 5 minutes then went to the Model Room and changed things to the correct configuration. It went better than I thought it would  8) 
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: gbrivio on October 11, 2020, 03:38:46 PM
Great work with wings correction and the many details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 12, 2020, 03:53:40 AM
These really are building quickly. I too am pleased that you corrected your error - I look to you for very high standards!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2020, 04:01:03 AM
Great work with wings correction and the many details.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks for looking in and commenting Giuseppe!
RAGIII


These really are building quickly. I too am pleased that you corrected your error - I look to you for very high standards!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen! Although My Standards aren't as High as some others I do Have Some  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on October 12, 2020, 04:08:20 AM
 Great work! So glad you're ahead of me on this, Rick! Learning and looking for solutions! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2020, 04:21:35 AM
Great work! So glad you're ahead of me on this, Rick! Learning and looking for solutions! Regards, Marc

Thanks Marc, Like I said on your build sharing and helping is Why I Post. Just for giggles here is a link to a review I did for Internet Modeler when the kit was released. Built almost OOB.  8)


http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/october/aviation/Roden_DrI.php


PS: Kind of funny in that I have learned a lot more since then due to This Forum and more books available!

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 13, 2020, 08:07:54 AM
I spent several hours at the bench today with small amounts of progress  ::) I have added PE from the Part set for the underside stitching and along the cockpit sides.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/Dz8RvZ3w/121508997-4069096403117401-1618379372022723871-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/jd4pvmht/121480790-4069096083117433-5719476957808446082-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/dVQzf6Wd/121481507-4069096306450744-1536223182166654174-n.jpg)


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 13, 2020, 11:16:42 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like it has been a productive day for you. Looking good.
                                                                 
                                                                               Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 13, 2020, 11:42:12 AM
That is some nice progress made Rick , looking good !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 13, 2020, 06:14:41 PM
Looking nice -by the time there's paint on them it'll be hard to well which is which! :)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 15, 2020, 07:48:21 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like it has been a productive day for you. Looking good.
                                                                 
                                                                               Kevin

Thanks Kevin!
RAGIII


That is some nice progress made Rick , looking good !


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII

Looking nice -by the time there's paint on them it'll be hard to well which is which! :)

Thanks Jeroen! I hope you are correct and they are at least close to the same  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 16, 2020, 06:34:44 AM
Every little step counts! Looking good!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 16, 2020, 08:05:52 AM
Every little step counts! Looking good!
/Fredrik

I did a little filling and sanding today and yesterday. Not anything worth taking photos  8) Thanks for looking in!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 17, 2020, 01:36:27 AM
Photos or not, the stitching adds a really nice touch of fine detail.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 17, 2020, 02:04:36 AM
Photos or not, the stitching adds a really nice touch of fine detail.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I actually prefer the PE to the way Meng/wnw does their stitching. I didn't get a very good fit on mine  :-[
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 18, 2020, 07:16:05 AM
Reference My previous post I had screwed up so bad that I sanded all of the stitching detail off and am using stitching from Archer.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/9QCKFxm8/DSCF8677.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Pup7309 on October 18, 2020, 04:26:46 PM
Stitches look good!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 18, 2020, 11:12:30 PM
Can't even tell , looks really good Rick  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on October 19, 2020, 04:22:27 PM
I couldn't see anything wrong with the other stitching but; this looks quite good.  I will have to try those Archer Decals.  I like what I have seen with Nails and now the stitching.  Very nice Rick.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Dave Brewer on October 19, 2020, 05:10:23 PM
Looks great Rick, Archer decals have come in handy for me many times, a great product.
Cheers,
Dave.
 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 19, 2020, 08:02:45 PM
Stitches look good!

Thanks for commenting!
RAGIII

Can't even tell , looks really good Rick  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. Had you seen the installation of the kit part you could tell for sure  :o
RAGIII


I couldn't see anything wrong with the other stitching but; this looks quite good.  I will have to try those Archer Decals.  I like what I have seen with Nails and now the stitching.  Very nice Rick.



Thanks Mark. You are probably thinking of the PE on the Roden Kit. That is still in place. It was the Stitching on the Meng kit that I replaced  ;D I am glad I remembered I had the Archers Fine Transfers sheet stored in a Roden SPAD kit!
RAGIII


Looks great Rick, Archer decals have come in handy for me many times, a great product.
Cheers,
Dave.
 


Thanks Dave! The Decals are indeed Handy!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on October 21, 2020, 05:50:09 AM
You made an impressive progress since my last visit.
I always find triplanes a bit more time-consuming, because there is more to mask and paint.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
You made an impressive progress since my last visit.
I always find triplanes a bit more time-consuming, because there is more to mask and paint.

Cheers,
Frank


Thanks Frank! Tomorrow I hope to lay down some paint on the fuselage and wings  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 22, 2020, 07:24:45 AM
So todays session, spray the CDL base for the streaking. I used Tamiya paint and am pleased overall with the result. The photos revealed a seam on the Roden upper fuselage that I will need to deal with.

RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/s1FMZKs1/122014721-4095442540482787-2425699500404843371-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Kj3KzCXd/122039130-4095443043816070-4721607177613411212-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2v8Y9tw/122086401-4095443103816064-6770747022822651511-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/jjq45qMm/122293476-4095442767149431-919873991416510038-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/PxPbW3sM/122294235-4095442647149443-2925826524995056505-n.jpg)

and the results of the Archer Stitching:


(https://i.postimg.cc/SxhGBfCy/122145822-4095443187149389-4905147122937543328-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 22, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
RAGIII,
The fun never stops on your work bench. Great to see your progress.

                                                                            Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 23, 2020, 07:55:16 AM
RAGIII,
The fun never stops on your work bench. Great to see your progress.

                                                                            Kevin

THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 23, 2020, 04:04:30 PM
THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos  ;D
RAGIII

Exciting! I'm looking forward to tomorrow, but results so far looks great.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 25, 2020, 12:50:58 AM
Looking forward to the streaking and no ...not you ! I mean the Fokkers  ;)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 25, 2020, 04:44:25 AM
THanks Kevin. I got carried away today and did some Streaking on the Roden kit. I will finish up tomorrow and post some photos  ;D
RAGIII

Exciting! I'm looking forward to tomorrow, but results so far looks great.
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik! It has been a few days now but I might be able to post the photos later. I am actually still deciding if I succeeded or failed at what I was going for  ::)
RAGIII


Looking forward to the streaking and no ...not you ! I mean the Fokkers  ;)


Like I just wrote to Fredrik, Perhaps today!
RAGIII

Terri


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 25, 2020, 05:12:12 AM
SO, Just to remind everyone I am doing the Roden DR1 as a Jasta 4 DR1 that was "Handed Down" from Jasta11. It is visible in a distant view in a photo in GvW/Albatros Publications Fokker DR1 Jadgstaffeln book. In the photo there is not a large amount of variation so  My goal is to depict a well worn and somewhat faded/blended streaking. Perhaps even touch up paint was used. The markings would have been recently changed thus a darker area below the crosses. I used Acrylics for the streaking for the first time. I am now Decideing if this is a Pass...or Fail so All Opinions welcomed.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/yx5jXs5n/122393209-359378825326025-6129542510206850424-n.jpg)

PS: I don't know why but the photo shows the streaking More brown when in reality it is OD Green  ::)

PPS: The tail will be overpainted in light Jasta 4 blue.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on October 25, 2020, 05:56:02 AM
I think  your streaking looks great Rick!  I read too that the varnishes used and weathering would give the Green a brownish tint, so to me it looks spot on, I wouldn't change a thing.  I am going to use Tamiya Acrylics on my upcoming DR.I and can only hope it turns out as good as yours.  Very nice Rick!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gisbod on October 25, 2020, 06:00:30 AM
Looks cracking Rick,

I love seeing everyoneís interpretations of streaking...

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 25, 2020, 06:04:20 AM
My vote is that your streaking gets a pass with "flying colours"! I admire all of you modellers who achieve painting at that standard.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on October 25, 2020, 06:43:03 AM
Lovely streaking, Rick! And amazing progress, I must consider retirement! Regards, Marc.

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 25, 2020, 08:29:15 AM
I think  your streaking looks great Rick!  I read too that the varnishes used and weathering would give the Green a brownish tint, so to me it looks spot on, I wouldn't change a thing.  I am going to use Tamiya Acrylics on my upcoming DR.I and can only hope it turns out as good as yours.  Very nice Rick!

Thanks Mark. Like I said the color is actually more Olive Drab Green than brown but the brown tones would be acceptable  ::) I used Valejo Olive Drab Green and Olive brown, along with a filter(Wash) intended for OD Armor Models.

RAGIII


Looks cracking Rick,

I love seeing everyoneís interpretations of streaking...

Guy

Thanks Guy! Yep, everyone seems to have their own idea  ;D I am still thinking on this one. Perhaps when the band is added to the fuselage and the crosses are in place I will like it better !
RAGIII


My vote is that your streaking gets a pass with "flying colours"! I admire all of you modellers who achieve painting at that standard.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I appreciate the vote of confidence!
RAGIII


Lovely streaking, Rick! And amazing progress, I must consider retirement! Regards, Marc.



Thanks Marc! As long as you are talking retirement from work I think it is a Fabulous Idea ! I Love being retired!!!
RAGIII


So I did the initial streaking on the Meng kit's center wing and left fuselage. This time I have gone back to oils so I have a couple of days to adapt, change, and refine the streaks  8) Again suggestions are welcome! This one is going to be Kirschsteins Jasta 6 stripey bird so no streaks aft of the cockpit!
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/nrfD691Q/122518711-629179891085209-1577114560382859208-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 25, 2020, 08:52:19 AM
Hey Rick ,

On the Roden kit I agree with the others and it gets my vote . You captured that worn faded looking , it's perfeck !

The streaking on the Meng kit looks awesome , I would say you have become a master of this with the amount of Fokkers behind your belt .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 25, 2020, 11:04:21 AM
Hey Rick ,

On the Roden kit I agree with the others and it gets my vote . You captured that worn faded looking , it's perfeck !

The streaking on the Meng kit looks awesome , I would say you have become a master of this with the amount of Fokkers behind your belt .


Terri

Thanks Terri! I am enjoying it all. I still feel more comfortable with the Oils!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Dave J on October 25, 2020, 02:39:14 PM
Nice work there! Streaking is looking great
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kkarlsen on October 25, 2020, 06:31:33 PM
Steaking is very nice Rick!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on October 26, 2020, 02:47:13 AM
Rick, your streaking looks good! Not that easy to get it right, and I know that because I'm doing the same now ::)

Which Tamiya paint you use for CDL? For the Fokker I like to have a less yellow, more greenish and your shade looks like that (ok, camera, light and monitor may manipulate the color ...).

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 26, 2020, 03:02:01 AM
Nice work there! Streaking is looking great

Thanks Dave, Greatly Appreciate you looking in!
RAGIII


Steaking is very nice Rick!


Thanks Kent!
RAGIII

Rick, your streaking looks good! Not that easy to get it right, and I know that because I'm doing the same now ::)

Which Tamiya paint you use for CDL? For the Fokker I like to have a less yellow, more greenish and your shade looks like that (ok, camera, light and monitor may manipulate the color ...).

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks for commenting Frank! As for the Tamiya CDL I am pretty sure it started as "Buff". I might have mixed in some grey. I used a mix I had sitting on the shelf so I am not 100% sure  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 26, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
The lower wing and fuselage are finished...Streaking that is  8)
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/d1XDPZNr/122834149-4107091942651180-8245692418666294381-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on October 26, 2020, 06:28:37 AM
Looking at the two Rick there are clearly tonal differences (but bear in mind Frank's comments), but I think that both are very good. I suspect that in reality different aircraft did look slightly different because paints would have varied and the people painting the streaking would have had different patterns too. So in brief: both get my vote! (And if I ever build a Fokker in the future I know who to send it to for painting!!)

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on October 26, 2020, 07:20:10 AM
Rick, you managed to keep the streaks in areas, where a huge amount of paint is removed. I tried it, but get quickly an uniform area.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 26, 2020, 07:40:54 AM
Rick, you managed to keep the streaks in areas, where a huge amount of paint is removed. I tried it, but get quickly an uniform area.

Cheers,
Frank
. Frank, It is a matter of remembering that oils can be worked and then reworked. I remove large areas with a dampened wide flat brush then go back with a narrow brush adding what I want. If I don't like the results I remove and re-do.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: William Adair on October 26, 2020, 01:37:11 PM
They look fantastic.  The streaking is very beautiful.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on October 27, 2020, 02:34:14 AM
Nice job on the streaking, Rick. 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 27, 2020, 06:57:53 AM
Moving along nicely Amigo !!

Ed
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 27, 2020, 08:16:24 AM

Moving along nicely Amigo !!

Ed

Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII


Looking at the two Rick there are clearly tonal differences (but bear in mind Frank's comments), but I think that both are very good. I suspect that in reality different aircraft did look slightly different because paints would have varied and the people painting the streaking would have had different patterns too. So in brief: both get my vote! (And if I ever build a Fokker in the future I know who to send it to for painting!!)

Stephen.

Thanks for the comments Stephen. I took a break today from the Fokkers to work on the Pfalz. The next steps should make these look better.
RAGIII


They look fantastic.  The streaking is very beautiful.

Thanks for dropping in and commenting!
RAGIII


Nice job on the streaking, Rick. 

Thanks Ken!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 27, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
Now that is nicely done Rick  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 27, 2020, 09:00:42 AM
Now that is nicely done Rick  :)


Terri

Thanks T!
RAGIII

PS: I did apply one Roden cross decal. Got a small chip but will correct that when I convert the cross to the later open ended type.



(https://i.postimg.cc/BZDF826z/123038715-4110511182309256-7252625986553909809-n-1.jpg)
PPS: The RODEN decal is working well although it was Brittle!. It is reacting to setting solution and a hair dryer. Other than the chipped portion I am pleased.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on October 27, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
RAGIII,
The streaking looks great. I'm wondering whether you found using acrylics easier, harder or the same just different, than the oil paints you have used in the past?

                                                                                                                        Thanks, Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 27, 2020, 08:05:46 PM
Beautiful colours! That streaking is really impressive.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 28, 2020, 12:27:17 AM
RAGIII,
The streaking looks great. I'm wondering whether you found using acrylics easier, harder or the same just different, than the oil paints you have used in the past?

                                                                                                                        Thanks, Kevin

Thanks Kevin. The Acrylics are certainly different than what I am used to! I found I needed to work more quickly and they were just a tad harder to get the look I was after. I worked "wet" and used water and a Filter/wash to thin and remove what I needed to. In the end I am more comfortable with the time that the Oils allow.
RAGIII


Beautiful colours! That streaking is really impressive.
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2020, 05:30:25 AM
Today I painted the undersurfaces using an old Poly Scale color Mix on the Roden Jasta 4 build. I also did the Tail. I hope to add a bit of contrast using oils and another mix of Poly Scale. I decided to replace the Roden decals with ones from WNW that did not require masking over and painting the ends. One thing I can say about the Roden decals, Once they are in place and set with decal solution, THEY ARE SOLID! I was unable to remove all of the decal with Masking Tape and had to resort to sanding and repainting the background!!!!  That being said this is where I am:
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/3RsfwtzJ/123078258-4115698191790555-505308997780303559-n.jpg)




(https://i.postimg.cc/wMDfRhd5/123130939-4115698108457230-4314731469669444990-n.jpg)

PS: One other thing worth Mentioning and this is the Honest Truth. The Roden Decals are brittle. That being said if you can get them in place without chipping or cracking they actually adhere to surface details better than the WNW decals I went with!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2020, 06:59:45 AM
Facebook has supplied some interesting "Friends" and very generous researchers. Greg van Wyngarden posted this photo on My FB comment showing My DR1. I assume since he made it public that I can now show the Jasta 4 bird I am doing. This is a cropped closeup as the original is at a distance. Thanks Greg!
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5jwtbcc/123171721-10224574970307953-863667707127260955-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on October 29, 2020, 08:43:14 AM
That is looking really, really good, Rick! I'm finding it increasingly difficult not to buy a triplane of my own... (voice of reason inside head: You must not add more to the stash!)
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2020, 11:36:36 AM
That is looking really, really good, Rick! I'm finding it increasingly difficult not to buy a triplane of my own... (voice of reason inside head: You must not add more to the stash!)
/Fredrik

Thanks for the Kind comment! Everyone should have at least one DR1  8) JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: William Adair on October 29, 2020, 12:42:58 PM
Everyone should have at least one DR1  8)

You have certainly sold me.  That looks absolutely brilliant.  :)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 29, 2020, 01:27:37 PM
Honestly Rick , these are shaping up to be your best Fokkers yet ! Brillant  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: pepperman42 on October 29, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
Just catching up again. These both look terrific!! Since we're voting (and if THEY were in an election I would vote for these not those other Fokkers) I pick both! Each have their merits. When you say acrylics you do mean artist or tube acrylics right? Not Vallejo or Tamiya etc. The Roden definitely looks more blended. Is that due to having to work faster  and trying to keep the paint wet? Could you put the paint on, level/smooth it and get a more defined streaking without going faster? Less paint on initial application? Have you seen the wet pallets at the art stores? (AK has them too) Its a container with a layer of sponge and a piece of semi absorbent paper. You add water, put the acrylic paint on the paper and it keeps the paint moist for a substantial length of time(days) - that's a lot of questions, sorry, but I see your method having a huge upside compared to oils. Being able to work sooner on a project after paint means a lot. I retire in 12 days (hence the questions) so my preparations are in the works!! - I cant wait to get at my models full time, figure out how to post pics and get something done!!!!!     
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on October 29, 2020, 11:29:11 PM
Rick, I really like the streaking on the Roden Jasta 4 model above.  Looks very convincing to my eye.  Carry on!

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 30, 2020, 12:44:24 AM
Everyone should have at least one DR1  8)

You have certainly sold me.  That looks absolutely brilliant.  :)

Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII


Honestly Rick , these are shaping up to be your best Fokkers yet ! Brillant  :)


Terri

Thanks T!
RAGIII


Just catching up again. These both look terrific!! Since we're voting (and if THEY were in an election I would vote for these not those other Fokkers) I pick both! Each have their merits. When you say acrylics you do mean artist or tube acrylics right? Not Vallejo or Tamiya etc. The Roden definitely looks more blended. Is that due to having to work faster  and trying to keep the paint wet? Could you put the paint on, level/smooth it and get a more defined streaking without going faster? Less paint on initial application? Have you seen the wet pallets at the art stores? (AK has them too) Its a container with a layer of sponge and a piece of semi absorbent paper. You add water, put the acrylic paint on the paper and it keeps the paint moist for a substantial length of time(days) - that's a lot of questions, sorry, but I see your method having a huge upside compared to oils. Being able to work sooner on a project after paint means a lot. I retire in 12 days (hence the questions) so my preparations are in the works!! - I cant wait to get at my models full time, figure out how to post pics and get something done!!!!!     

Thanks for the comments. In this case I actually did use Valejo  ::) I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure! It would help when painting figures also!  Enjoy your retirement, I know I do. I am looking forward to seeing some of your work soon 8)

These are the Valeyo paints I used...along with water.


(https://i.postimg.cc/mDV5w5Ng/122998964-4112880242072350-7738501543987681026-o.jpg)

RAGIII


Rick, I really like the streaking on the Roden Jasta 4 model above.  Looks very convincing to my eye.  Carry on!

Best,

Bob

Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: pepperman42 on October 30, 2020, 01:01:12 AM
Thanks for the update. Even more impressed now because you had to work very fast using Vallejo but it all looks in control and right!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 30, 2020, 09:47:19 AM
Thanks for the update. Even more impressed now because you had to work very fast using Vallejo but it all looks in control and right!!

Steve

Thanks Again Steve! Today I painted the rear fuselage, tail, and upper wing white as a base for the black and white stripes on the Meng Jasta 6 bird. Next I will do the blue undersides then begin the masking on all of the other stuff  8)
RAGIII

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zkf5y8L/123243950-4119387258088315-3383024100872889195-n-1.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/3N7Nm9C1/123270752-4119387351421639-7926967152260703064-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/2jFVrRrK/123331880-4119387534754954-5485828428786383957-n.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: gbrivio on October 30, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Great updates, your streaking technique is very effective.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on October 30, 2020, 08:03:46 PM
Rick, I really like your progress, this will be a beautiful Dr.I!

I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure!
You can make one yourself easily!
Take a plastic CD box, the clear cover.
Put in one or two layers of kitchen roll paper cut to size.
Put on top a layer of baking paper (also available in white)
You can slide the papers under the 4 halfround tabs, or fix it around with paper clips.
If you now made the lower kitchen paper wet, you have your wet pallet - cheap, easy and working.
I do not invented it, I read about it somewhere.

Cheers,
Frank 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Gisbod on October 30, 2020, 08:35:06 PM
Very effective Rick,

I like that a lot!

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on October 31, 2020, 10:29:18 AM
Really looking forward on the next step ...STRIPES ! I did this scheme on a Eduards Dr.1 and plan on doing Meng's kit the same

Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2020, 11:11:02 AM
Really looking forward on the next step ...STRIPES ! I did this scheme on a Eduards Dr.1 and plan on doing Meng's kit the same

Terri

Thanks Terri. I painted the blue unders today so sometime in the next week it will turn Stripey!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on November 01, 2020, 02:44:05 AM
Been catching up Rick. The streaking is stunning - I am truly very impressed indeed. The black and white stripes will also be a real eye-catcher.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on November 01, 2020, 03:16:30 AM
Nice progress, Rick.  I think getting the streaking colors on is a significant milestone.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on November 01, 2020, 04:32:44 AM
   Rick,
    Your streaking is very impressive, it looks the part and more. I am about to borrow some of your initiative here, am doing the Meng kit and then plan to immediately launch into the Roden version. The temptation to do a double Build was there but I figured one Kit at a time is more my speed! I've been following your progress closely and will continue to do so, lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 01, 2020, 06:46:14 AM
Great updates, your streaking technique is very effective.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks Giuseppe! I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII


Rick, I really like your progress, this will be a beautiful Dr.I!

I need to look into one of those "Wet Pallets" for sure!
You can make one yourself easily!
Take a plastic CD box, the clear cover.
Put in one or two layers of kitchen roll paper cut to size.
Put on top a layer of baking paper (also available in white)
You can slide the papers under the 4 halfround tabs, or fix it around with paper clips.
If you now made the lower kitchen paper wet, you have your wet pallet - cheap, easy and working.
I do not invented it, I read about it somewhere.

Cheers,
Frank 


Thanks Frank. Perhaps I will give this a try before I spend Money on a commercial variant!
RAGIII


Very effective Rick,

I like that a lot!

Guy

Thanks for the comment Guy!
RAGIII


Been catching up Rick. The streaking is stunning - I am truly very impressed indeed. The black and white stripes will also be a real eye-catcher.

Stephen.

Thanks as always Stephen!
RAGIII


Nice progress, Rick.  I think getting the streaking colors on is a significant milestone.

Thanks Ken. Funny thing is that this is the stage I usually don't like My work. I always like it better once markings are applied  ::)
RAGIII


   Rick,
    Your streaking is very impressive, it looks the part and more. I am about to borrow some of your initiative here, am doing the Meng kit and then plan to immediately launch into the Roden version. The temptation to do a double Build was there but I figured one Kit at a time is more my speed! I've been following your progress closely and will continue to do so, lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance! I appreciate that you are following along and look forward to your Meng build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2020, 09:12:20 AM
Today I masked and painted the black stripes. I am pleased in that not a whole lot of touch up is needed! I used 32 x 7mm strips of Tamiya tape  ::) I also assembled and painted the Meng Engine and the WNW engine I had purchased long ago for use with the Roden kit.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/V6gDBxzG/124029343-4139788489381525-1120726758406857116-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/nrLTd3zH/123877345-4139788642714843-551006597086241369-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/xjs6kVxq/123361147-4139788739381500-1792157136702009006-n.jpg)

PS: The shot of the underwing surface shows how well the Optical Illusion works. The stripes are angled exactly like the upper surface but from this angle look straight  8)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on November 06, 2020, 10:52:41 AM
RAGIII,
Between this build and the Udet Fokker you did previously, you've really "Earned Your Stripes". Looking great!

                                                                                                                                  Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 06, 2020, 10:59:54 PM
Earning ones stripes is a lot of work , it takes courage , passion and few beers behind the belt to be successful . You have earned those stripes Rick , top wing looks great and those engines are also very well done .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 07, 2020, 12:49:09 AM
RAGIII,
Between this build and the Udet Fokker you did previously, you've really "Earned Your Stripes". Looking great!

                                                                                                                                  Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Hopefully today I will  Earn a lot More Stripes  ;D
RAGIII


Earning ones stripes is a lot of work , it takes courage , passion and few beers behind the belt to be successful . You have earned those stripes Rick , top wing looks great and those engines are also very well done .


Terri

Thanks Terri! More stripes on the way!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 07, 2020, 12:43:30 PM
So I thought the wings would be the most challenging...wrong! Both sides have a different pattern therefore making the uppers line up is difficult  8) So a little touch up and reshaping of the stripes will be needed.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/SNFMc5cL/IMG-20201106-193523788.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/FHhkBLW7/IMG-20201106-193535868.jpg)

PS: Scheme is based on drawings fro the Osprey Fokker DR1 Aces book.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on November 07, 2020, 12:57:11 PM
It's looking good Rick.  Matching the stripes can be a real challenge as the angle of the stripe makes the top wider than the angle of the stripe on the upper part of the fuselage.  I wrestled with that when I did mine in Udets markings.  Just a little tweaking of the stripe made it all come together.  You are doing stellar work and I am following, maybe not commenting a lot but following none the less.  Remember, we're in this together.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 07, 2020, 01:00:57 PM
Actually Rick , that turned out rather well . It is not an easy scheme and when I did this one in 48 scale I had a bit of touch ups with the stripes as well . This is going to look fab once you get done . Wonderful thread to follow !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Pup7309 on November 08, 2020, 05:19:38 PM
Brilliant work, still following with interest
 ;D
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: pepperman42 on November 08, 2020, 11:47:05 PM
Great work!! That does look tricky getting everything lined up AND evenly spaced. You have nailed it!!! Very sharp.

Steve (3 days left and counting...)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2020, 02:19:01 AM
I do like the stripes! You certainly rose to the challenge, Rick! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 09, 2020, 03:47:44 AM
Thanks to all for the comments. I stared at the model and what photos are available of the real bird and decided I wasn't satisfied with My results. I have sanded down the upper fuselage and left side stripes and will re do them later  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on November 09, 2020, 10:41:53 PM
The stripes looked pretty good, but if you're not satisfied, best to re-do them.  If something is not done to my satisfaction, it bugs me every time I look at the model!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 10, 2020, 01:00:52 AM
Best way to go if your not happy with the results , will only eat at you in the end . Looking forward to the re-do .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2020, 01:26:01 AM
The stripes looked pretty good, but if you're not satisfied, best to re-do them.  If something is not done to my satisfaction, it bugs me every time I look at the model!

I almost let it go but it kept nagging me  ;D
RAGIII

Best way to go if your not happy with the results , will only eat at you in the end . Looking forward to the re-do .




Terri

I stripped it yesterday and hope to start the re do today  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 12, 2020, 05:30:24 AM
I have painted( Mostly) the band on the fuselage of the Roden DR1. I used decal for the black portions. The band needs a bit of touch up.  Slowly getting towards mounting the wings. I hope to work on the re do of the Meng kit stripes later today.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/cCCwTFS7/124848784-4157126804314360-937842717088394730-n.jpg)




(https://i.postimg.cc/vTK9K5YJ/125014073-4157126680981039-6147543706534270732-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: FAf on November 12, 2020, 07:02:40 AM
Great work getting all those stripes in place! Great looking models!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 12, 2020, 08:30:57 AM
Great work getting all those stripes in place! Great looking models!
/Fredrik


Thanks Fredrik! I spent the rest of today masking and re-painting the Jasta 6 DR1. I like the results much better! On the other hand when painting the tail I forgot to add one small piece of tape....white will need to be touched up  8)
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/Hk46jsTf/124991051-4157727667587607-488588239236882427-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqbVNtR0/125181366-4157727850920922-8961862021040362711-n.jpg)

PS: YES, I am much happier with the re-painted top and left side  ::)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 12, 2020, 01:03:45 PM
Both are turning out super so far Rick , and you earned your stripes again  ;) Time for a cold one ! Looking forward on the next up-date  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 12, 2020, 01:21:06 PM
Thanks Terri! I am about 4 cold ones ahead of your suggestion  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on November 12, 2020, 08:33:01 PM
Looking good Rick!  Your progress and output are always impressive.  I have got to get myself retired soon so I can devote more time to the bench.  Carry on!  Looking forward to seeing this pair in all their glory.  BTW, the stripes look great!

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2020, 12:39:27 AM
Looking good Rick!  Your progress and output are always impressive.  I have got to get myself retired soon so I can devote more time to the bench.  Carry on!  Looking forward to seeing this pair in all their glory.  BTW, the stripes look great!

Best,

Bob

Thanks Bob! I Highly recommend retirement although I hate that Most of us have to get OLD to get there  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2020, 10:01:00 AM
Today I painted the wing ties, glued them in place and attached the lower wing and lower fuselage. I also added the last of the crosses. Next up is some weathering on both DR1 kits.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/N0XZvgwK/125183718-4160893643937676-8321480567153297613-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/qRdSk9kj/125185717-4160893757270998-6024764348719148926-n.jpg)




(https://i.postimg.cc/fRJ65c2j/125287568-4160893410604366-1090038967459246827-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/W1CxydxR/125239808-4160893880604319-5953805840132298405-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on November 13, 2020, 02:54:51 PM
RAGIII,
I can't keep track of which model is Meng and which is Roden. They both look fantastic.

                                                                                                                    Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: kensar on November 13, 2020, 10:49:27 PM
Both are shaping up to be very impressive models, Rick.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on November 14, 2020, 03:43:19 AM
I have had to catch up with these builds Rick, and I am bowled over by the stripey looks! Both models are very impressive indeed - particularly the one with wings and fuselage. Your painting skills really are second to none. I also think that the WNW engines are mini-masterpieces and make a super addition to any model.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 14, 2020, 03:42:04 PM
Well Rick , what can say ...top notch work so far ! :) Looking forward on seeing how the weathering turns out on both .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on November 14, 2020, 06:58:52 PM
Nice stripes, Rick! An ambitious scheme but beautifully executed! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on November 16, 2020, 04:49:16 AM
Rick, I had some catching up to do, but I love your results. I am always most impressed with your productivity. How do you do that? Your day only has 24 hours, or do you also work at night?  ;D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 16, 2020, 11:05:48 PM
RAGIII,
I can't keep track of which model is Meng and which is Roden. They both look fantastic.

                                                                                                                    Kevin

Thanks Kevin. It is easy to tell the difference...The Roden kit has Round access hatches and the Meng ones are Rectangular  ;D
RAGIII


Both are shaping up to be very impressive models, Rick.


Thanks for commenting Ken!
RAGIII

I have had to catch up with these builds Rick, and I am bowled over by the stripey looks! Both models are very impressive indeed - particularly the one with wings and fuselage. Your painting skills really are second to none. I also think that the WNW engines are mini-masterpieces and make a super addition to any model.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen! I always appreciate you feedback!
RAGIII

Well Rick , what can say ...top notch work so far ! :) Looking forward on seeing how the weathering turns out on both .


Terri

Thanks for commenting T!
RAGIII

Nice stripes, Rick! An ambitious scheme but beautifully executed! Regards, Marc.

Thanks Marc! Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII

Rick, I had some catching up to do, but I love your results. I am always most impressed with your productivity. How do you do that? Your day only has 24 hours, or do you also work at night?  ;D

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank! Hope you are doing well!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2020, 01:51:00 AM
 I worked on the Roden kit and have modified/cut apart the Roden landing gear legs to fit the Wide chord Axle wing from the Meng DR1. I also began to work on the Spandaus. Finally the Aviattic cowling painted and sitting in place.


I also installed the Machine Guns, wheels, Rudder, and cowling on the Meng DR1

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/gJC25xYn/IMG-20201115-124340353.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/ncYhRVNh/IMG-20201115-124244332.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/fRzT6nhj/IMG-20201115-130005652.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/7Pz6znV7/IMG-20201115-125939661.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/2ynSfC6T/IMG-20201115-123906063.jpg)

PS: I also did a little touch up on the band of the Roden kit  ;D


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on November 17, 2020, 03:18:59 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like you had a very productive weekend. The Tripes are looking even better.

                                                                                                            Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2020, 04:47:03 AM
RAGIII,
Looks like you had a very productive weekend. The Tripes are looking even better.

                                                                                                            Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Not quite as much done as I would have liked  8)
RAGIII

PS: Todays mission is to work on the Nieuport   ;D
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Borsos on November 18, 2020, 03:59:29 AM
Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2020, 05:32:49 AM
Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas

Thanks Andreas! I greatly appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 18, 2020, 09:53:21 AM
Rick , those Fokkers are turning out to be beauties so far , looking awesome  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2020, 10:10:53 AM
Thanks Terri. I plan to work on them tommorow
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on November 19, 2020, 12:11:51 AM
You continue to amaze Rick!  These are beautiful and will likely inspire some other Dr.I builds in the not-too-distant future.  Outstanding! ;D

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Monty on November 19, 2020, 01:31:08 AM
Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Bughunter on November 19, 2020, 04:44:36 AM
Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas, more impressive are 10 wings on this 4 planes :o
Ok, now that are 3 planes, but still 8 wings - very impressive, also in terms of quality and productivity!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 19, 2020, 09:07:22 AM
Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc


Thanks Bob! As I always say, if I inspire another Modeler to build a kit I have acheived the only purpose I have for posting My Builds  8)
RAGIII


Nice work, Rick! They are coming together beautifully! ATB, Marc

Thanks Marc!
RAGIII


Incredible, there are four planes on your bench in total if I counted properly. My deepest respect. And all look amazing!
Andreas, more impressive are 10 wings on this 4 planes :o
Ok, now that are 3 planes, but still 8 wings - very impressive, also in terms of quality and productivity!

Cheers,
Frank

Yes, down to three and thanks for the comment! Today I did a small amount on the Triplanes to get back in the Saddle so to speak. Rudders and rudder crosses added to both. I used the wheels from an old Roden Albatros DIII(OAW) for the larger diameter on the Roden DR1. In addition I used a repurposed PE part from the Toms Model Works Pfalz set as the frame for the inspection window on the Roden upper wing. I had a spare wood panel from a WNW DVII so used that as it really can't be read! Finall, I started detail painting on the MG's and other things.

RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/13Zj2VNf/126185051-4178887488804958-4299271638165206251-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/25kX8pGY/126200605-4178887398804967-6698048920258649680-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/G2NMQ4C3/126307009-4178887042138336-8684863219017293228-n.jpg)



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Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on November 20, 2020, 04:49:00 AM
These a re two superb looking models Rick. I just hope that you do not drop them....!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2020, 06:52:14 AM
These a re two superb looking models Rick. I just hope that you do not drop them....!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen! It seems that I only "Drop" models that I have worked really hard at getting the upper wing in place so hopefully these will escape the curse  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2020, 10:34:01 AM
Just a quick note. The Roden kit is officially a Triplane!
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/sgWmyhXd/126320317-4182088585151515-6595225303056981814-n.jpg)


Next up will be getting the Meng kit in the same place then weathering and final details.


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on November 20, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
Hey Rick , man that Roden tripe is a beauty so far . Fantastic work sir !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2020, 11:47:46 PM
Hey Rick , man that Roden tripe is a beauty so far . Fantastic work sir !


Terri

Thanks Terri! Here is one more photo:


(https://i.postimg.cc/XJscxK2F/126403278-4182088351818205-3213724589611379090-n.jpg)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: Radarman on November 21, 2020, 01:04:47 AM
RAGIII,
Like Terri said, "Fantastic". I can't say enough how good your streaking looks.

                                                                                                     Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on November 21, 2020, 01:48:31 AM
RAGIII,
Like Terri said, "Fantastic". I can't say enough how good your streaking looks.

                                                                                                     Kevin

Thanks Kevin. I am Happy with the streaking but every time I look at a build where the Modeler has used the Aviattic Decals I like what I see. I think I am going to experiment the next time I build a DR1  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on November 21, 2020, 03:33:12 AM
Rick, I think that using transfers for streaking would be a mistake. Your streaking really is second to none - and it really is all your own work. The Roden tripe looks even better with the top wing on.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: RAGIII on November 21, 2020, 08:45:51 AM
Rick, I think that using transfers for streaking would be a mistake. Your streaking really is second to none - and it really is all your own work. The Roden tripe looks even better with the top wing on.

Stephen.

As always thanks for your support Stephen. This was going to be a progress report on mounting the upper wing on the Meng kit. I managed to break a cabane strut. No big deal I can order the brass struts to replace it. Then I was holding the kit by the upper wing at the aileron. Aileron separated and once again a Fatal crash. I am going to close out both of MY build logs even though two still survive. I just don't have it in Me to continue.

A large thanks to ALL who have supported My builds over the years!

RAGIII/ AKA Rick Geisler



(https://i.postimg.cc/s1F4DxSx/126522840-4184767601550280-8899953725436348535-n.jpg)




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Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: kensar on November 21, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
You and Terri are having some kind of luck!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Alexis on November 21, 2020, 10:44:07 AM
Wow , that really sucks Rick and sorry to hear this . After seeing the end results the Meng kit is turning out to be a huge disappointment . I also hope that you aren't leaving us either , you are important to us here . I think I will be ordering the brass replacement struts as well and save at least on headache with the kit .

I really do like your work Rick , you skills have really matured over the years  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Dave W on November 21, 2020, 04:53:08 PM
Really sorry to see that Rick. Your Dr.1s are breathtaking and sooooo close to completion.

Can they be sent to the naughty corner of the hobby room for a few weeks while you re-charge the motivational batteries for another go at them?

These models are too good to abandon now. And that Fokker streaking is absolutely world class!

Don't give up now. :)

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: gbrivio on November 21, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
Very sad news, I can only imagine your feelings after so much incredible work but incidents always wait in ambush behind corners. As Dave suggested, please don't give up as with your skills you can manage even worse failures. Let the damaged model rest aside and take a break, time always helps everybody.
Hold strong!
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: ermeio on November 21, 2020, 07:44:27 PM
very sad news, they were going to be very nice models
We can understand you mood nod, but please do not give up...
er.me
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 21, 2020, 08:48:08 PM
Rick,
Walk away. Clear your mind. Take your time.
Remember!
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave!
It's in our blood.

von B
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Dave Brewer on November 21, 2020, 09:44:45 PM
Bloody hell Rick,I think you should now buy a lottery ticket,you're certainly overdue for a large dose of good luck.My commiserations on this pair of setbacks, I really feel for you mate.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: lcarroll on November 22, 2020, 02:45:40 AM
   That's a real nasty development Rick, the gods of modeling have certainly not smiled on you of late! Don't give up, I'd recommend you order the brass struts and during the wait enjoy the break while two very good things happen .......
 one, you get your mojo recharged and two, two beautifully finished models emerge from the temporary disaster you've been dealt! Oh yes, the "wait" must include an hour or two sitting at the "Bench" working on a couple of really cold brews ........ good for the soul doncha know!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Bughunter on November 22, 2020, 02:50:13 AM
What a sad news!

A large thanks to ALL who have supported My builds over the years!
Rick, that sounds so damn definitive! Please don't leave us here alone!
Make a break, recover your mojo but come back someday please.

All the best to you,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Gisbod on November 22, 2020, 04:47:12 AM
Ah Rick,

Put them in a box, take a few days out, then build something simple that really floats yr boat! Even something completely out of left field - a guilty pleasure! Iíve had so many disasters itís not funny!

All the best,

Guy

 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Rookie on November 22, 2020, 07:19:01 AM
Darn!!!

How much bad luck can you run into!

I hope you get your mojo back soon Rick, and I hope to see you back here soon with another of your beautiful builds.

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: William Adair on November 22, 2020, 08:18:34 AM
Rick, I am so sorry to hear about the damage.  I have been enjoying your builds immensely and watch out for them every time I visit here.
If it seems too much, just put them aside for now and enjoy the next project.  You may find that Meng and Roden have a parts replacement service for the pieces you need.  If not, you still have the originals to use as templates.  And there might well come a day where you are able to use them as patterns to make your own replacement parts.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: mgunns on November 22, 2020, 01:51:47 PM
I agree with Bob and the rest; take some time away from the hobby, clear your head, focus and get back into it.  Like Bob wrote:  "It's in your blood" and as Terri wrote, you are a valuable member of the group.  I admire your work and the effort you put into the model and the time take photo's, and share your work.  Hang in there Rick, this too shall pass. 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Borsos on November 22, 2020, 05:09:27 PM
Thatís really a pity to see the 2nd plane go. I definitely hope that your mood recovers in the near future, weĎll miss your build reports very much!
All the best,
Andreas
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Monty on November 22, 2020, 05:39:50 PM
I'm really sorry to hear this, Rick. And yes, it does happen to most of us far too often... There are many reasons to give it a break, walk away and come back later.. This thread was the inspiration for me to pick up my Roden Dr.1 again, the first decent project I've tackled all year, so I will try to carry on with the show! Take it easy, Rick, Regards and Salutations, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: Europapete on November 22, 2020, 10:28:47 PM
Aww MAN! take some time out Rick, paint the bedroom or remodel the kitchen. Come back to the bench and build a dinosaur. You are a valued freind here, we need you. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: macsporran on November 22, 2020, 10:53:49 PM
Rotten deal, Rick. Looking back they were coming along nicely.

Can I just say one of the reasons I don't publish day by day progress reports is that too many times fate intervenes with a deus ex machina like this. I wait till it's safely finished - probably why I post few current builds! (Other reasons are my snail's pace and poor photography skills!)
I'm sure in a few days you'll be ready to wrest success from the jaws of defeat.
Sandy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6: Cancelled
Post by: PrzemoL on November 23, 2020, 07:30:07 PM
Really pity to see such end. Especially with such care and success in streaking camo. But then, do not bin it, a day may come you may wish to return to them.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6:
Post by: RAGIII on November 23, 2020, 11:45:35 PM
I am not sure where to begin here so if this comes out looking rather Random so be it.

First, I never intended to "Leave the Forum" The Forum is too much a part of My Daily routine and I Love this place and Most of all the Modelers. I did however, fully intend to STOP posting build logs. A few things have happened that changed My Mind. After a few days of getting over the second disaster I started feeling better about Modeling. The Major Reason  is this Forum and especially the Community of Modelers involved. I can't say enough about the responses and what they have done to Inspire Me. I am but a small part player here...No One is More important than the Community! 

So, Having thought things over and due to a couple of PM's  I received I am going to re-open this log!  Thank You Dave W for your Messages!  I also received a Message from rayb24. This Message is the One that really showed Me How Generous and supportive this Community is. I am posting a copy of the text for all to see.

"Hey Rick, i was following your build, i have 3 Meng dr1ís and your welcome to one. No charge, you can either use the parts to fix what you have or start again.. iíve been where you are with a few built(nearly) models. So no the feeling."


Ray

I accepted Ray's offer and of course When the opportunity arises I will Pay His Generosity forward! I will build the Meng kit in the intended Jasta 6 scheme and hopefully make it even better. I also will finish the Roden build as another Forum Member Pete supplied Me with a Lot of aftermarket stuff to make it better! I also remembered that this Roden kit was a "Prize" for My Participation in the Des Delatore GB. It wouldn't be fitting to stop the build log!!


Now, in Typical RAGIII style I will add a third DR1 to the build, another Roden kit using Parts and pieces scavanged from the wreck  ::)  Photo soon.

Thank You All for being a Part of the Community and a Daily Inspiration!

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: gedmundson on November 23, 2020, 11:54:17 PM
Just catching up on all this Rick - glad you are getting back in the saddle and moving ahead.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2020, 12:06:44 AM
Just catching up on all this Rick - glad you are getting back in the saddle and moving ahead.
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks Gary! Here are the first photos of the second Roden DR1. This one I intend to do as DR1 502/17 from Jasta 11. I was able to salvage the Meng interior "Almost" in tact! I haven't worked on the other kits much but I began to wonder if I could mate the Meng interior with the Roden kit. After some sanding and filing this is the results to date:




(https://i.postimg.cc/c1QP8Xf5/127243821-4192247387468968-7879315654966498417-o.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/vZmKkykp/126049659-4192249147468792-7140641843657770077-o.jpg)


Still needs tweaking and I will need to remove the instrument and fuel fillers to make it work.

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Rookie on November 24, 2020, 01:23:24 AM
Glad to have you back Rick, although you were never really gone of course...

I share your enthusiasm about this Community of Modelers. It is heart warming, and it kept me going in the early moments of my HP V/1500 build in moments of despair...

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: petrov27 on November 24, 2020, 02:43:20 AM
Glad to see you are back on it!

If you need any spare parts from a Roden DrI please let me know as I have some...
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: lcarroll on November 24, 2020, 04:28:01 AM
   Atta Boy Rick, back to the bench already with even more! It's so nice to see the spirit and generosity of this Forum in action, and also the determination you are demonstrating by re-starting this project. The salvaged cockpit looks terrific as will the resulting finished model!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Monty on November 24, 2020, 04:28:31 AM
So good to have you busy on this one, Rick! Meng insides into the Roden kit... very interesting! We follow and appreciate... Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Bughunter on November 24, 2020, 04:33:06 AM
I'm really glad that the community, all of us, could put up the catch net so quickly and caught you!
Now we get even a kit bash ;D

Have fun!
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Alexis on November 24, 2020, 05:53:20 AM
A kit bash , even better !

Glad to see you back in the saddle Rick  :) The members of our community are fantastic and will always step up to the plate to help !!!

Seems the Meng cockpit fits in Rodens fuselage pretty good with a bit of trimming .  :)


Terri

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 24, 2020, 07:12:31 AM
It's in our blood!
Carry on!

vB  ;)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Borsos on November 24, 2020, 07:46:14 AM
No giving up, but rising the bar instead, thatĎs really great sports  :)
Andreas
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2020, 08:21:24 AM
Thanks again to all for the comments: So finished the tweaking, more or less. I will need to adjust the MG attachment but I think it is going to work.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/nzdRnZTQ/127228028-4193393504021023-3740647284957922215-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on November 24, 2020, 10:29:58 AM
That looks really good Rick , nice tight fit  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: mgunns on November 24, 2020, 02:39:34 PM
Good on yer Rick!  Glad to see you up and at 'em in true RAGIII Fashion and making stellar progress with the "Mengden" amalgamation.  It looks promising Rick and I think you are past the largest hurdle, the rest is modeling as usual.  Looking forward to seeing this bad boy shine.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 25, 2020, 04:28:11 AM
That looks really good Rick , nice tight fit  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri! It is looking hopeful as the attached photo will show. Just in case I plan to build the Roden interior also  ::)
RAGIII


Good on yer Rick!  Glad to see you up and at 'em in true RAGIII Fashion and making stellar progress with the "Mengden" amalgamation.  It looks promising Rick and I think you are past the largest hurdle, the rest is modeling as usual.  Looking forward to seeing this bad boy shine.

Thanks Mark! Like I said it looks Hopeful so far! Just need to repair the wires and stuff that were damaged removing the interior from the Meng fuselage and add the triangular panels....then paint , weather the interior, etc.
RAGIII

PS: A few more tweaks needed!


(https://i.postimg.cc/J7N4yMTw/127565840-4195683177125389-841276625827024859-n.jpg)

and just for fun a close up of the other Jasta 4 Roden kit:



(https://i.postimg.cc/15yRw2T8/127508432-4195683327125374-883009551876460587-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on November 25, 2020, 04:42:01 AM
Rick,

My visits to the forum are very erratic at the moment so I have only just read about your second disaster....... I am lost for words, the more so since the streaking on the Fokker is truly exceptionally good. I am so pleased to read that you have managed to recover some of your equilibrium too - not easy given the circumstances, but commendable none the less.

It is sooo good to see that you have started again - after all disasters should not be barriers - rather challenges to be overcome. (Not that that view is easy to takejust after a major blow). Please do not leave us on this forum - you are such a highly valued member. Do what you have done - go away for a few days to calm down and then come back and show us how well you can make models which undoubtedly inspire the rest of us. I am sure that I write for most when I state that I too have nearly given up - as on the DH1A earlier this year when I knocked the top wing off.....-I nealry binned it but not quite, and I am pleased that I dd not.

I am ceetain that you are going to present us with not two but THREE excellent triplanes in the not too distant future, and do you know what? I can't wait!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 25, 2020, 06:57:16 AM
Rick,

My visits to the forum are very erratic at the moment so I have only just read about your second disaster....... I am lost for words, the more so since the streaking on the Fokker is truly exceptionally good. I am so pleased to read that you have managed to recover some of your equilibrium too - not easy given the circumstances, but commendable none the less.

It is sooo good to see that you have started again - after all disasters should not be barriers - rather challenges to be overcome. (Not that that view is easy to takejust after a major blow). Please do not leave us on this forum - you are such a highly valued member. Do what you have done - go away for a few days to calm down and then come back and show us how well you can make models which undoubtedly inspire the rest of us. I am sure that I write for most when I state that I too have nearly given up - as on the DH1A earlier this year when I knocked the top wing off.....-I nealry binned it but not quite, and I am pleased that I dd not.

I am ceetain that you are going to present us with not two but THREE excellent triplanes in the not too distant future, and do you know what? I can't wait!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen, Like I said I Never Intended to leave the Forum but the responses gave Me New Hope to continue posting builds! So in that spirit here is the latest on the Roden Jasta 4 bird: I have begun to weather using oils, burnt sienna, burnt umber, gold ochre, and black. My thought is that this is an older airframe passed down from Jasta 11 to Jasta 4. Therefore I have gone just a Tad heavier on the weathering.

RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/R0Hf5DwL/127550030-4196177737075933-2243930975795394000-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/RFxtMLR5/127572647-4196177963742577-8858194402896575834-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/bJ0tdSCG/127662753-4196177837075923-8038521765723858454-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/5yxFz9Ts/127732785-4196177447075962-2964995507968620321-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on November 25, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 25, 2020, 11:05:04 AM
Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: Jeff K on November 25, 2020, 08:27:40 PM
late to the party (as usual) but it's good to see that by the time i hear of a disaster the victim has already bounced back.

good thing this isn't a Western and i'm not the Cavalry. please do a) keep building (you can't stop, not worried) but also b) keep posting build logs.

the heartbreaks, too, are instructional and inspirational for us noobs. we, too, will drop an almost finished favorite some day.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Jeff K on November 25, 2020, 08:29:13 PM
Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
also remember that for you, you'll see every mistake, every spot where you could have decided differently. it'll never look as awesome sauce to you as it does to the rest of us who aren't thinking about how to tweak your build.

i may be a noob to this stuff but i did serve time in art school... i know the pain...
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on November 25, 2020, 10:35:35 PM
Your weathering does look exceptional, Rick. Kudos!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on November 25, 2020, 11:44:46 PM
Just catching up. The ups and downs seem to have swung back to very much up!! Glad you're back on stride!! Model building has always been an escape for me - what happens in that world stays put. A disaster or frustration in a build does not ruin a day it just gets set aside. There are no "have to" or "I must" simply do it or don't. No one is DEPENDING on a build. Yes, there's a financial cost to this hobby but whether the project is completed or not - that money is spent. There is certainly a story now to the Fokker F up that down the line you will probably smile at!! I have watched your progress, the talent, the ability and your enthusiasm for the project at hand and although sympathetic to a catastrophic set back I draw further inspiration from you refocusing and approaching the problem from a new angle. Nicely done!! Crisis averted - proceed......

Steve 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Pup7309 on November 26, 2020, 10:07:13 PM
Great work! Keep going!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: gbrivio on November 26, 2020, 10:52:46 PM
So glad to see you back on this build. Too much was done (and well done) before the sad occurrence not to try and recover the model.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4 and Jasta 6.
Post by: RAGIII on November 26, 2020, 11:58:32 PM
late to the party (as usual) but it's good to see that by the time i hear of a disaster the victim has already bounced back.

good thing this isn't a Western and i'm not the Cavalry. please do a) keep building (you can't stop, not worried) but also b) keep posting build logs.

the heartbreaks, too, are instructional and inspirational for us noobs. we, too, will drop an almost finished favorite some day.

Beautiful job on the weathering Rick ! Man that looks awesome  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. I actually like how it is coming out...rare for Me at this stage!
RAGIII
also remember that for you, you'll see every mistake, every spot where you could have decided differently. it'll never look as awesome sauce to you as it does to the rest of us who aren't thinking about how to tweak your build.

i may be a noob to this stuff but i did serve time in art school... i know the pain...

Thanks for the kind words Jeff! It was initially painful but thanks to the Forum Members I am back on Track. No More Drama Queen stuff from Me  ;D
RAGIII

Your weathering does look exceptional, Rick. Kudos!

Thanks Ken. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII

Just catching up. The ups and downs seem to have swung back to very much up!! Glad you're back on stride!! Model building has always been an escape for me - what happens in that world stays put. A disaster or frustration in a build does not ruin a day it just gets set aside. There are no "have to" or "I must" simply do it or don't. No one is DEPENDING on a build. Yes, there's a financial cost to this hobby but whether the project is completed or not - that money is spent. There is certainly a story now to the Fokker F up that down the line you will probably smile at!! I have watched your progress, the talent, the ability and your enthusiasm for the project at hand and although sympathetic to a catastrophic set back I draw further inspiration from you refocusing and approaching the problem from a new angle. Nicely done!! Crisis averted - proceed......

Steve 

Thanks Steve! II appreciate the thoughts you have expressed here! I can assure you I am indeed back on track and proceeding  8)
RAGIII


Great work! Keep going!

Thank You for the comment!
RAGIII


So glad to see you back on this build. Too much was done (and well done) before the sad occurrence not to try and recover the model.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks Giuseppe! Just to be clear the Jasta 6 "crashed" DR1 was scrapped for parts but  the scheme will be repeated on a "New build" thanks to Ray!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: andonio64 on November 27, 2020, 02:50:36 AM
Hi Rick I read the last dramatic posts on this thread and I understood that COVID could have not been the worst plague of this fantastic 2020. The forum without your works is like a cinema without movies (I am joking and don't want to diminish the great modeller skills of the many other great modelers here).

BTW I am so happy to see you biting the bullet again and the result is another beautiful DR1.

Keep up the fire!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2020, 12:51:30 AM
Hi Rick I read the last dramatic posts on this thread and I understood that COVID could have not been the worst plague of this fantastic 2020. The forum without your works is like a cinema without movies (I am joking and don't want to diminish the great modeller skills of the many other great modelers here).

BTW I am so happy to see you biting the bullet again and the result is another beautiful DR1.

Keep up the fire!

Thanks Antonio! I took a day off yesterday for our US Thanksgiving. I hope to make progress today on some of the builds!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2020, 10:51:15 AM
I am nearing completion on the Roden Jasta 4 DR1. I have finished weathering the undersides and fuselage and just need to add a bit to the upper surfaces. Next up will be rigging and then adding the small breakable parts like the step and hand holds. I think it is appropriate while witing on the Meng "Replacement" to note a few comparisons.

 Roden:

After 15 years the Roden kit is still pretty nicely done. A few errors of Omission are evident but honestly when the kit was designed Most had No Idaea!

Things I see needing correction:

1. Sand off "Most of the triangular panels on the wing upper surfaces. Honestly some trace "Might"  be visible on the original
2. Do not use the fuel pump on the right fuselage side. This was a tube and valve that was connected to the control stick to more or less "Blip" the engine.( WNW /Meng are the first to get this right) Not generally known when Roden issued their kit.
3. Add some Nail holes to the wing ribs on the upper surface. Looks better even if exaggerated.
4, Correct the gear location on the leading edge.
5. Change the location of the spar inspection panel on the upper wing
6. The tires are too small in diameter( This was only recently discovered). They would be fine if building an F1.
7. The Cowl needs replacing or correction.
8. Fill in the depression on the horizontal tail surfaces( Although honestly there is a depression near the leading edge)
9. Add whatever cockpit details like the triangular panel are needed per your preferences
10.Add the fabric panel above the rear bulkhead.
11. No access hatch on the underside. Use Aviattic PE or Make your own.
12. No stitching on rear fuselage. Use Part, Eduard, or Archer stitching to add.

One thing Roden did get right is the recessed ribs on the undersides of the wing. Ray Rimell suggested adding a thinly stretched sprue piece to enhance the detail. Also the kit is Sturdy, No worries about breaking struts  8)


Meng:

Basically 15 years of improved Mold technology and Information.  Superior in Most respects it does have drawbacks.
1. The Plastic is DIFFERENT! Softer yes, but also more brittle  ::)
2. Tolerances are tight! Perhaps more so than WNW.
3. Because of #2 be SURE you do not Try to Force anything into place! Especially wing Ties and Cabanes!
4.Instrument decals are not very good
5. One Must either have knowledge of their intended subject or do research as the instructions really fall short of giving info on what parts should be used.


So that being said this is where I am on the Roden Jasta 4 build. Weathering of the undersides and Fuselage are done. Just need to pastel the upper surfaces and rig. Then the inevitable touch up:
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/5ycQTPQF/128277761-4204721152888258-1476749435777718969-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/qq86T82D/128402775-4204720596221647-7132414574999839355-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx87SGng/128173310-4204720876221619-1374535074614603495-n.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on November 28, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
Super results so far Rick ! She is coming along wonderfully and I must that I really like the scheme .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2020, 12:53:54 AM
Super results so far Rick ! She is coming along wonderfully and I must that I really like the scheme .


Terri

As always thanks for commenting Terri! Slightly aged photo:


(https://i.postimg.cc/TP9pT2zc/y2vlxb-20201129015231.jpg)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on November 29, 2020, 05:03:25 PM
Looking quite amazing, so far Rick! The colour scheme is attractive and your streaking effect.. spot on! Agree on your comments on the Roden kit... but quite doable! ATB, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2020, 12:03:32 AM
Looking quite amazing, so far Rick! The colour scheme is attractive and your streaking effect.. spot on! Agree on your comments on the Roden kit... but quite doable! ATB, Marc

Thanks Marc, and yes the Roden kit can be built tp a very accurate and pleasing result!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lcarroll on November 30, 2020, 12:13:03 AM
Rick,
    Thanks for the effort to record all of your thoughts and "fixes" for the Roden Kit. (and she's a real beauty!) I'll be tackling that one again once I've completed Lothar's scheme on the Meng kit. I agree as well with your comments on that one and particularly on the instructions and plastic. Last, I marvel at your resiliency; the "crash" of the beautiful Meng one was a real kick in the butt, and you bounced right back in record time ...... good on Ya!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2020, 12:24:28 AM
Rick,
    Thanks for the effort to record all of your thoughts and "fixes" for the Roden Kit. (and she's a real beauty!) I'll be tackling that one again once I've completed Lothar's scheme on the Meng kit. I agree as well with your comments on that one and particularly on the instructions and plastic. Last, I marvel at your resiliency; the "crash" of the beautiful Meng one was a real kick in the butt, and you bounced right back in record time ...... good on Ya!
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance. Like I said the Members of This Forum were responsible for MY quick recovery  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: gbrivio on November 30, 2020, 05:52:38 AM
Lovely model, finishing is beautiful and your attention to details commendable (and enviable  ::))
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2020, 07:41:33 AM
Lovely model, finishing is beautiful and your attention to details commendable (and enviable  ::))
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks Giuseppe! Not a lot done today but I did add the triangular panels to the Jasta 11 Roden build. Almost ready to be closed up....I think  8)
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/XJ0hhc8D/IMG-20201129-162538220.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on November 30, 2020, 06:59:21 PM
Moving right along Rick , she is looking good so far ...Go Rick Go !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2020, 10:40:31 PM
Moving right along Rick , she is looking good so far ...Go Rick Go !


Terri

Thanks Terri. I had difficulty getting to sleep last night so I have now buttoned up the DR1. Roden kit with a slightly modified Meng interior. I also made the slight modification needed to use the Meng Tail Surfaces. Upper fuselage seam was filled with Talcum powder and superglue mix so hopefully it will never re appear  8) I hope No other Modeler winds up with a spare Meng interior but at least we know it can be done  ::)

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqM39Lfs/IMG-20201130-003818137.jpg)

Thinned fuselage interior walls and trimmed the ammo bins:


(https://i.postimg.cc/rpfG1rJ3/IMG-20201130-003828264-LI.jpg)





middle  wing/cockpit coaming, and tail plane sitting in position:

(https://i.postimg.cc/90GqnHcs/IMG-20201130-003759709.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/VL8tbvRw/IMG-20201130-003746496.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 01, 2020, 01:43:45 AM
Thanks for the comparison of the Roden and Meng kits.  The Jasta 4 plane came out great!  Looking forward to the Jasta 11 one.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 01, 2020, 01:54:35 AM
Thanks for the comparison of the Roden and Meng kits.  The Jasta 4 plane came out great!  Looking forward to the Jasta 11 one.

Thanks Ken. The Jasta 11 build should go pretty well but May be delayed as Aviattic is currently Out of Stock on the DR1 PE. By that time I should have the replacement Meng kit to start doing Kirschsteins Jasta 6 bird again  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on December 01, 2020, 06:38:25 AM
Excellent job on getting the fit Rick !

Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 04, 2020, 07:47:41 AM
Excellent job on getting the fit Rick !

Terri

Thanks Terri. I have finished the tweaks, glued the mid wing in place, stripped the Meng tail plane painting and attached, and added Archer Fine Transfers stitching to the Jasta 11 Roden kit.

RAGIII



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(https://i.postimg.cc/zB6rJ8QP/129330295-4222633674430339-7190575206592105333-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on December 04, 2020, 09:16:31 AM
Really nice work on getting the parts to fit Rick , one would never know  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 04, 2020, 12:09:47 PM
Really nice work on getting the parts to fit Rick , one would never know  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri. I also managed to get the rigging done on the Jasta 4 Roden DR1. Just a bit of weathering on the uppers and it is done. This should be the last post on this one prior to completed Models.
RAGIII





(https://i.postimg.cc/cHkT8JM0/IMG-20201203-185151310.jpg)




(https://i.postimg.cc/RZwPb49L/IMG-20201203-185213162.jpg)




(https://i.postimg.cc/FKZTNpYf/IMG-20201203-185136440.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Rookie on December 04, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
Wow! It looks stunning Rick!

Do you sleep at all???

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on December 04, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
I love triplanes and the Roden looks terrific. I really like streaking.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 04, 2020, 11:05:30 PM
That's a beauty, Rick!  Making me think of the Meng kit I have.
Could you post a picture of the underside.  I'd like to see how the Archer stitching looks.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 05, 2020, 01:14:31 AM
Wow! It looks stunning Rick!

Do you sleep at all???

Willem

Thanks Willem, I actually only work on Models a few hours a day. It is just that being retired I do work on them Every Day!

RAGIII


I love triplanes and the Roden looks terrific. I really like streaking.

Thanks for dropping by and the comment!
RAGIII

That's a beauty, Rick!  Making me think of the Meng kit I have.
Could you post a picture of the underside.  I'd like to see how the Archer stitching looks.


Thanks Ken.  I know I have confused things with deleting/crashing one kit and adding another. So here is a recap: 1. The Meng kit that was destroyed had Archer Stitching. 2. The Jasta 4 Roden kit has the Part PE Stitching. 3. The New Jasta 11 build has Archer Stitching as seen in the previous post  ::)

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on December 05, 2020, 12:19:06 PM
Great final results on the Roden kit. Proof with a little love it builds into a fine replica. Mengenstein Fokker is shaping up too!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 05, 2020, 10:49:43 PM
Great final results on the Roden kit. Proof with a little love it builds into a fine replica. Mengenstein Fokker is shaping up too!!

Steve

Thanks Steve I appreciate your comments. I agree completely about the Roden kit!  I have filled and sanded the seams on the "Mengenstein" kit. Actually the Only reason I used the Meng interior vs the Roden was that it was assembled , rigged, and painted. Saved a bunch of time. In some respects the Roden kit interior offers more possibilities. Having the complete fuel tank and engine bearers it lends itself well to opening up that lower panel from the Aviattic PE set.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 06, 2020, 04:30:19 AM
The Jasta 4 bird is DONE! I quit while I was ahead... I kept getting the feeling I was going to drop it  ::)
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqbq0mmV/rnh6c-20201206032044.jpg)

More photos of this part of the build in Completed Models


https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11730.msg218827#msg218827
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 09, 2020, 08:47:37 AM
The second Roden/Meng DR1 is going fairly well. I have begun the Streaking using oils. In this case an Out of Tube OD and burnt umber. I am also doing a little "revisionist" thinking on the colors  ::) Some May like it and some not!
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/bNymycsx/130723492-4237113322982374-1123108707693081249-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/GhXq97yZ/130774210-4237113486315691-7998597778287930259-n.jpg)



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Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on December 09, 2020, 10:33:21 AM
I do like how the colours constrat with each other , gives it a totally different look .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on December 09, 2020, 11:28:34 PM
A nice "blank canvas" to experiment on!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: dr 1 ace on December 11, 2020, 10:05:45 AM
Looking Good Amigo !!!

Ed
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 11, 2020, 11:01:52 AM
Thanks Terri, Steve, and Ed. I appreciate the comments. I have changed the camo on the Roden kit....More on that later. I also changed My mind on the aircraft I will model. Still Jasta 11 but 545/17 of Hans Weiss. In the Meantime a few notable points about the Meng and Roden kit: First lets examine Ailerons: There has been much said about the Roden kit and it's ailerons. So lets exaamine the options. The Fokker DR1 basically had three types:

1. Fokker F1 Type
2. Early type. Similar to the F1 but with reduced chord on the balances.
3. Late style

Roden offers an accurate example of # 2 and 3. Meng offers accurate examples of #1 and 3.

So if one wants to do an F1 from the Roden kit you would need the Cutting Edge or Encore resin Ailerons representing that type.
If you want to do an Early DR1( Mostly Early Jasta 11, then the Roden early style is fine. Rodens Late style is also fine for all of the rest!

If building the Meng kit as an F1 their F1 style aileron is perfect. If doing an Early DR1 then use the Late style as a template to reduce the chord of the balance. The late style used on Most DR1's is again, perfect.



(https://i.postimg.cc/6qTzhBrC/IMG-20201208-115831881.jpg)


Thanks to rayb24 I now have another Meng kit that I received yesterday. I am wasting No Time getting underway  8) I noticed some detail that I had overlooked on My first build: The leading edge of the wings shows VERY SUBTLE detail where the ply covering is located. Easy to miss this and it explains why Ray Rimell said to" Mostly"  sand off the leading edge details on the Roden kit  :o  So moving along I have painted the Streaking on the Meng middle and lower wing. I also realized that No Seams would prevent me from painting the forward fuselage streaking on Kirschsteins DR1 so I went ahead and did so.

RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/N06Y5P16/IMG-20201210-175630245.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/XJnWFc8T/IMG-20201210-175848001-BURST001.jpg)

PS: I also have begun interior work on the Meng kit.



Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: TimDEFR on December 11, 2020, 05:43:39 PM
Your streaking camouflage looks so great, I wasn't sure it was painted or a decal!

Best,
Tim
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 11, 2020, 10:48:29 PM
Thanks for the explanation of the ailerons, Rick.  Do you happen to know the numbers for the early batch vs the late batch?

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 11, 2020, 11:11:15 PM
Your streaking camouflage looks so great, I wasn't sure it was painted or a decal!

Best,
Tim

Thanks Tim. I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII





Thanks for the explanation of the ailerons, Rick.  Do you happen to know the numbers for the early batch vs the late batch?



Ken, I don't have the numbers at hand. I will check My references but I think the book that probably best explains the ailerons is one I don't have. Paul Lehmens Fokker Dr1. I am certain all will be included in Ray's two volume books on building the DR1. Like I said, "Most" of the early style were found in Jasta 11. Some like 144/17 had both early and late. Finally one could almost substitute "Standard" for Late as it was the most common  type.
RAGIII


PS: I have been looking through My DR1 reference. All I can say for sure is that the "Early" style seems to be limited to Jasta 11 as I stated before. As for serial numbers they seem to be interspersed with those carrying the "Standard" aileron. As an example 154/17 has the early style but 139/17 has the later. It also appears that some of those delivered before the failure had F1 type ailerons but Gontermans 115/17 has the later "Standard" version. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can clear things up  ::)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 13, 2020, 08:12:48 AM
This arrived today courtesy of Richard at Aviattic. A Test shot of the interior decals for the Meng kit. The instruments are a Huge improvement over the kit supplied decals!
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/1XDpWwhp/IMG-20201212-154947896.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 14, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
I made quite a bit of progress on both DR1 kits today. First I added the instrument decals from Aviattic sheet shown in the previous post to the Meng interior. Just a reminder here, if you use them remember that Aviattic decals are backed with clear so paint the appropriate color to back them. Second the sheet is a solid backing so you will need to trim as close as possible to the decal. After applying the instruments I glued the Meng fuselage together...No photos yet.

I also have finished the streaked camo on the Roden kit....for the third time. I really didn't like the revisionist scheme so went back and tried to remove the brown and add more green. The results were not satisfactory  >:( So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base, then went back and did the streaking with oils. So since I changed the scheme three times it is only fair that I have now changed My mind on Markings three times. I went from 502/17 to 545/17, and have decided on an Early DR1 flown by Werner Steinhauser, Jasta 11 of course  ;D This gave me the opportunity to use the Early style ailerons.

RAGIII

Note: According to info from Achim Engels the Tachometer was Not under the ammo box where Mengnuts have it. He says it was attached to the side frame.


(https://i.postimg.cc/kG0fxvSx/IMG-20201213-144042677-BURST000-COVER.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/T36XxrsL/IMG-20201213-144241820.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/rpyX0qMq/IMG-20201213-144737040.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/bv6X14wk/IMG-20201213-144745087.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/1t4kBM8T/IMG-20201213-144821577.jpg)

PS: I did add the control wires to the Meng interior before I closed it up, and The leading edges of the streaked camo will be cleaned up when the blue undersurfaces are painted on the Roden kit!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Rookie on December 14, 2020, 08:20:20 PM
You make it all sound so easy Rick...

Quote
...So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base...

How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?

Please bear in mind I'm a rookie

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 15, 2020, 12:16:22 AM
You make it all sound so easy Rick...

Quote
...So I stripped all of the paint, re sprayed a beige-ish grey CDL base...

How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?

Please bear in mind I'm a rookie

Willem

I used a soft cloth with Brake Fluid and carefully rubbed the surfaces. The oils came off easily and the acrylic base only took about 30 minutes. . Then I use dish detergent to wash off the oily residue. I sprayed about an hour later then did the streaking later in the afternoon. When things go well the streaking only takes about 5 minutes per surface  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on December 15, 2020, 08:06:22 AM
 :) :) :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on December 17, 2020, 11:20:52 PM
Nice colours on the streaking, Rick! I do think this method has great possibilities.... Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 18, 2020, 12:09:59 AM
:) :) :)


Terri



Nice colours on the streaking, Rick! I do think this method has great possibilities.... Regards, Marc.

Thanks for looking in and commenting Terri and Marc!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Bughunter on December 18, 2020, 04:10:07 AM
Rick on speed! Your Triplane show here is unbelievable!

How do you strip the paint without damaging your work?
Willem, I have made also good experience with normal alcohol (in german "Spiritus", a cheap undrinkable alcohol for cleaning) for acrylic paints, e.g. Gunze Hxxx, Tamiya or Mr. Paint. Even with oil stripes on top the alcohol goes a bit trough are solves the paint below.
If I so not rub to strong with cotton tab my Alclad Primer survives such attack.

I suggest to use a cheap model kit for testing paints, airbrush, brushes and ... cleaning ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 18, 2020, 09:24:09 AM
So I have progressed on both kits. I painted the rear fuselage and Horizontal tail white prior to masking and painting the black. I also have painted the red band and ellow X on the Roden fuselage. I will touch it up after painting the red tail stripes.
RAGIII



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(https://i.postimg.cc/Cx5NQQFF/IMG-20201216-184654697.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/cHSf09Nt/IMG-20201217-180328111.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/mkd93T17/IMG-20201217-180338779.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on December 18, 2020, 11:17:27 AM
Wow!! Great jump ahead in progress

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: acewwi on December 18, 2020, 09:54:40 PM
I love yours painting Rick
Spyros
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 18, 2020, 10:46:13 PM
Those colors really set this one off, Rick!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 19, 2020, 09:19:48 AM
Wow!! Great jump ahead in progress

Steve

Thanks Steve!
RAGIII


I love yours painting Rick
Spyros

Thanks. I do like painting so greatly appreciated!
RAGIII


Those colors really set this one off, Rick!

Thanks Ken. I also like the color contrast!
RAGIII



So moving along on the Meng kit. I have masked and painted the black stripes on the fuselage. I am pleased that there is only a Small amount of adjustment and touch up needed  8)
RAGIII


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(https://i.postimg.cc/bJQxv8Zp/IMG-20201218-175035125.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/xdNGWLYk/IMG-20201218-175107484.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Radarman on December 19, 2020, 10:16:09 AM
RAG III,
These two are looking great. I must say, I'm glad to see you continuing with these builds.

                                                                                                            Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 19, 2020, 11:35:50 AM
RAG III,
These two are looking great. I must say, I'm glad to see you continuing with these builds.

                                                                                                            Kevin

Thanks for the comment Kevin!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on December 19, 2020, 04:44:53 PM
I really like the different color schemes.  Back then they were more creative in painting than nowadays.  I see what you mean when you say a little touch up is needed but I think it is a nice little worn look. It doesn't disturb me at all. Keep up the good work.

Ferry
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: FAf on December 19, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
I'm with Fvdm. Touch up if you want to, but the lack of absolute perfection makes it look more real in my eyes.

Great work over all!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Rookie on December 19, 2020, 10:08:59 PM
You have done it again Rick!

Simply amazing!

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: aircooled on December 19, 2020, 10:57:28 PM
Rick,
You sir, are a true Master!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: rhallinger on December 20, 2020, 02:26:38 AM
Rick, I am really enjoying these lovely Dreideckers you are building up to such beautiful models.  What great schemes, so well-executed!  A real inspiration for me, with all those Roden Dr.I kits in my stash!  Very well done, and thanks for sharing.

Best regards,

Bob 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 20, 2020, 03:07:29 AM
Thanks Guys. I truly appreciate all of the comments! I Hope to get a little bit done today...still deciding on which one I am going to work on  ::)


RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Bughunter on December 20, 2020, 03:58:37 AM
With such colorful paints the birds looks even better!
You show again, that also the Roden Dr.I will looks great if carefully build and painted.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on December 20, 2020, 05:49:15 AM
Rick,

Somehow I have missed out on this thread for a couple of weeks as I thought (wrongly as it turns out), that you had stopped... Silly me!!
I have just spent a very interesting and informative 20 minutes catching up, and my it was well worth it. I have commented on your streaking several times already, but I am still awestruck by yor results. I am also very impressed with the super cockpit interior details - not to mention the colour schemes. In all a continuation of a super build thread, which I now intend to keep a closer eye on.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 20, 2020, 11:12:56 AM
Rick,

Somehow I have missed out on this thread for a couple of weeks as I thought (wrongly as it turns out), that you had stopped... Silly me!!
I have just spent a very interesting and informative 20 minutes catching up, and my it was well worth it. I have commented on your streaking several times already, but I am still awestruck by yor results. I am also very impressed with the super cockpit interior details - not to mention the colour schemes. In all a continuation of a super build thread, which I now intend to keep a closer eye on.

Stephen.

As always thanks for your support Stephen. Like I said earlier,the members of the Forum got me back on track!

RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on December 20, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
Some lovely progress on these two, Rick, Smashing colour schemes and you're not afraid to tackle the complexities of them... Real inspiration in progress.... Yes, the members of this site are awesome... ATB, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 21, 2020, 12:39:25 AM
Some lovely progress on these two, Rick, Smashing colour schemes and you're not afraid to tackle the complexities of them... Real inspiration in progress.... Yes, the members of this site are awesome... ATB, Marc.

Thanks Marc. I appreciate you following along!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on December 21, 2020, 06:14:26 AM
Every time I look something awesome happens here. Very sharp!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 21, 2020, 01:41:20 PM
Every time I look something awesome happens here. Very sharp!!!

Steve

Thanks Steve! No work done for two days. I hope tomorrow will be a lot more productive!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: fredjocko on December 22, 2020, 10:50:33 PM
Those look fantastic!!!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 23, 2020, 07:12:09 AM
Those look fantastic!!!

Thanks  for taking the time to look in and the comment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on December 23, 2020, 04:46:10 PM
These are really coming along.  Lovely clean work as usual, Rick!

Dan
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on December 23, 2020, 11:01:23 PM
Beautiful work on those Fokkers Rick  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 23, 2020, 11:43:12 PM
These are really coming along.  Lovely clean work as usual, Rick!

Dan

Thanks for dropping in and commenting Dan!
RAGIII


Beautiful work on those Fokkers Rick  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri! Yesterday I did the touch up on the Jasta 6 stripes and added the red stripes to the Steinhauser Jasta 11 bird.
RAGIII


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(https://i.postimg.cc/DyfX1sSV/IMG-20201222-184814663.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on December 24, 2020, 05:16:06 PM
Nice to see them both side by side. I have one question,  the elevator of Jasta 6 is up. Is that possible when the plane stands on the ground?
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: TimDEFR on December 24, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
Excellent progress Rag, that Steinhauser scheme looks really cool and creates a nice contrast with the camouflage. You got yourself a truly unique Dr.I here.

Best,
Tim
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on December 24, 2020, 11:16:17 PM
Nice to see them both side by side. I have one question,  the elevator of Jasta 6 is up. Is that possible when the plane stands on the ground?
If the stick is back yes.

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on December 25, 2020, 05:00:38 AM
These are two very colourful Dr 1's Rick. You seem to be able to find some very interesting schemes for them - and they are all new to me!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Rookie on December 27, 2020, 08:25:49 PM
Rick, you are not a modeller, you are an artist!!

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 29, 2020, 04:15:04 AM
Thanks for all of the comments. They are appreciated! I haven't done a lot due to the Holiday but did manage to add the lower fuselage panel from the Meng kit to MY Roden build. I also painted the CDL background for the lower wing crosses. Finally I painted the eyes on the cowling. Still some tweaking needed  8) All of this is on the Roden Jasta 11 bird.
RAGIII




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(https://i.postimg.cc/dtzTQz6W/IMG-20201227-142356365.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Radarman on December 29, 2020, 05:54:13 AM
Nice progress, RAGIII. I'm glad you got to enjoy the holidays.

                                                                        Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on December 29, 2020, 07:05:03 AM
The face on the cowling looks great. I could easily believe that that was achieved with transfers.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 30, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
That will be a very colorful scheme, Rick.
Happy Holidays
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 30, 2020, 01:11:45 AM
Nice progress, RAGIII. I'm glad you got to enjoy the holidays.

                                                                        Kevin

Thanks Kevin!
RAGIII


The face on the cowling looks great. I could easily believe that that was achieved with transfers.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. Just a small amount of touch up needed on the brows  8)
RAGIII

That will be a very colorful scheme, Rick.
Happy Holidays

Thanks Ken and yes, colorful indeed!
RAGIII

and the end of yesterdays' session: Both have feet and I added the crosses to the lower wings and rudder on the Rodenstein kit:


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(https://i.postimg.cc/MGnMQLJL/IMG-20201228-185748577.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/63pPc9qc/IMG-20201228-203725712.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/W4xD6721/IMG-20201228-185854987.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/gk4nBpY5/IMG-20201228-185933205.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/YC9j5P0S/IMG-20201228-190756753.jpg)


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on December 30, 2020, 04:32:18 AM
It keeps getting better and better. The MG's look great. Maybe a little touch-up to do on the black and white wheels?
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on December 30, 2020, 04:54:56 AM
That pair really are some of the most colourful Dr 1's that I have seen. They are both stunning.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: William Adair on December 30, 2020, 07:36:34 AM
I think I missed a few steps along the way.  That is amazing progress.  The paint finishes look gorgeous to me.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 31, 2020, 02:16:25 AM
It keeps getting better and better. The MG's look great. Maybe a little touch-up to do on the black and white wheels?

Thanks for the comment and yes, a bit of touch up needed on the wheels and elsewhere  8)
RAGIII


That pair really are some of the most colourful Dr 1's that I have seen. They are both stunning.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I do like the colorful schemes Myself.
RAGIII


I think I missed a few steps along the way.  That is amazing progress.  The paint finishes look gorgeous to me.

Thanks Will. I have now painted the "New" upper wing of Kirschsteins bird. I just need to decide which I Like bestter ?  Both are "Off" just a tad from what I envision as correct  ::)
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/QdMMtgVC/IMG-20201229-173520726.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on December 31, 2020, 02:26:52 AM
Amazing progress, Rick! And a lovely contrasting pair of colourful triplanes! Really well done on some adventurous schemes... and don't ask me which upper wing is better, I wouldn't know! I think you need to decide that.... Enjoying these builds very much! Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on December 31, 2020, 01:39:16 PM
Amazing progress, Rick! And a lovely contrasting pair of colourful triplanes! Really well done on some adventurous schemes... and don't ask me which upper wing is better, I wouldn't know! I think you need to decide that.... Enjoying these builds very much! Marc

Thanks Marc! I actually made My decision although it involved a bit of a re-paint on the left side of the original wing. I Liked the results and added the upper wing to the finished steps.



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(https://i.postimg.cc/Hkm4Z9d6/IMG-20201230-193809184.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Early Bird Fan on December 31, 2020, 05:04:00 PM
they look stunning, loving your work  8)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Rookie on December 31, 2020, 05:39:15 PM
It's all coming together now... Beautifull work Rick!

Willem
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on December 31, 2020, 10:51:09 PM
Those bottom 2 wings look out of place now - like they're from a different plane.
This one is coming along nicely, Rick.
So, how many Dr.1s do you have now?   ;D
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 01, 2021, 12:11:41 AM
Oh my , that is gorgeous !


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Bughunter on January 01, 2021, 12:35:13 AM
Rick, what a colorful show! Lovely triplanes :-*
Very tempting, since I have about 7 Eduard Dr.I in stock (just counted, 2 x Dual Combo + ...)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: fredjocko on January 01, 2021, 12:42:59 AM
These are really looking fantastic and I amazed by your speed!!
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on January 01, 2021, 02:16:15 AM
Amazing Rick, just amazing... A Fokker Feast.... ATB, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 01, 2021, 02:33:13 AM
they look stunning, loving your work  8)

Thanks For the comments. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII

It's all coming together now... Beautifull work Rick!

Willem

Thanks Willem!
RAGIII

Oh my , that is gorgeous !


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII

Those bottom 2 wings look out of place now - like they're from a different plane.
This one is coming along nicely, Rick.
So, how many Dr.1s do you have now?   ;D

Thanks Ken. Yeah, maybe that is why Kirschstein painted Every Surface on his DVIIs' with stripes  ::)   ::) I have four in the case and these two hopefully will make 6 8)
RAGIII

Rick, what a colorful show! Lovely triplanes :-*
Very tempting, since I have about 7 Eduard Dr.I in stock (just counted, 2 x Dual Combo + ...)

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank!
RAGIII

These are really looking fantastic and I amazed by your speed!!

Thanks for looking in and commenting!
RAGIII

Amazing Rick, just amazing... A Fokker Feast.... ATB, Marc.

Thanks Marc!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: mgunns on January 01, 2021, 05:56:29 AM
Looking Good Rick:  I am looking forward to seeing your Steinhauser completed.  I am doing it but with the Balkankreuz and the yellow square with red "X".  The eyes on the cowling look as good as the ones I have and I used a mask on one the decal from the Hobby Craft kit for the other, not sure which one I will use.  The striped one looks good as well.  I like your streaking and I will end up trying that on my next DR.I build.  Glad to see you had a nice Christmas holiday and look forward to more from you in 2021.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 01, 2021, 06:41:30 AM
Looking Good Rick:  I am looking forward to seeing your Steinhauser completed.  I am doing it but with the Balkankreuz and the yellow square with red "X".  The eyes on the cowling look as good as the ones I have and I used a mask on one the decal from the Hobby Craft kit for the other, not sure which one I will use.  The striped one looks good as well.  I like your streaking and I will end up trying that on my next DR.I build.  Glad to see you had a nice Christmas holiday and look forward to more from you in 2021.

Thanks Mark! I still have the brows to touch up later but I am satisfied with the overall results on the eyes. Happy New Year and I am looking forward to seeing the results of your builds!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on January 01, 2021, 09:38:07 AM
My these become more eye-catching with every update. Just super painting Rick.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 02, 2021, 02:35:17 AM
My these become more eye-catching with every update. Just super painting Rick.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen! My last session of 2020: I added the MGs' and upper wing to the Roden kit and the fuselage crosses to the Meng bird. Now details will be added to both.
RAGIII



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(https://i.postimg.cc/SsMprqDw/IMG-20201231-190444028.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/MKDJt9mK/IMG-20201231-190514191.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/vHdG0gRX/IMG-20201231-190545695.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Zq9kb4tC/IMG-20201231-190556561.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/j5wRFyd3/IMG-20201231-190628820.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: lone modeller on January 02, 2021, 02:51:19 AM
Two very impressive models ther. I really like those colour schemes.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: rhallinger on January 02, 2021, 03:12:01 AM
Wow!  Thatís a handsome pair of Dreidecker, Rick!  Very nicely done, and an inspiration. ;D

Happy 2021! 

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: fixman on January 02, 2021, 03:59:04 AM
very nice painting...good work.... and a happy new year
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: gedmundson on January 02, 2021, 04:02:07 AM
Rick - those are looking fantastic. Keep up the great work. Your enthusiasm is inspiring!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 02, 2021, 12:22:06 PM
Two very impressive models ther. I really like those colour schemes.

Stephen.

Thanks as always Stephen!
RAGIII


Wow!  Thatís a handsome pair of Dreidecker, Rick!  Very nicely done, and an inspiration. ;D

Happy 2021! 

Best,

Bob

Thanks Bob!
RAGIII


very nice painting...good work.... and a happy new year

Thanks for your comments!
RAGIII


Rick - those are looking fantastic. Keep up the great work. Your enthusiasm is inspiring!
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks Gary!
RAGIII

Today I started adding details. Engines and cowlings finished, added a few decals, touched up the struts on the Jasta 11 bird, and added control horns and attached the ailerons.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/Qxx7SkBk/IMG-20210101-190138834.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: William Adair on January 02, 2021, 02:52:10 PM
Wow, it surely canít get much better than that. 
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on January 03, 2021, 01:00:43 AM
Lovely attention to detail on a stunning pair of builds.... Just amazing, Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 02:41:19 AM
Wow, it surely canít get much better than that.

Thanks William, your comment is Greatly Appreciated.
RAGIII

Lovely attention to detail on a stunning pair of builds.... Just amazing, Marc.

Thanks Marc. I appreciate your support!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 03, 2021, 02:55:47 AM
Really looking forward on seeing these beauties cross the finish line ....as of now it just feels like you keep teasing us to the point it tortures us with intisapation  ;)



Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 03, 2021, 07:46:37 AM
Looking good Amigo !!

Ed
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 07:58:59 AM
Really looking forward on seeing these beauties cross the finish line ....as of now it just feels like you keep teasing us to the point it tortures us with intisapation  ;)



Alexis

Thanks for the subtle "Get er Done" hint Alexis  ::)
RAGIII


Looking good Amigo !!

Ed

Thanks Amigo. It is always Nice to get your opinion on a DR1!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on January 05, 2021, 05:56:00 AM
I can't wait to see these beauty's finished...
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 05, 2021, 07:26:32 AM
I can't wait to see these beauty's finished...

Thanks for the comment! I may have an update tomorrow just to Tease Alexis  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Pup7309 on January 05, 2021, 02:30:46 PM
Such amazing work, I canít believe it! Great you are near to finish line.
Do you prefer one? Can I ask this?
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 06, 2021, 02:00:56 AM
Such amazing work, I canít believe it! Great you are near to finish line.
Do you prefer one? Can I ask this?

Thanks for the kind comment  8)  ::) In answer to your question as to My preference I will say I prefer the Meng kit with one caveat. The Roden kit is awesome for being 0ver 15 years old in it's Molding Process! Having built 5 counting the Steinhauser bird , If I had another in the stash I would happily build it! The fact that I was able to easily adjust so many Meng parts to fit is a testament to just how good Rodens rendition was way back then. Look at Marc/ Monty's build and you can get an idea of what can be done without using aftermarket parts, just Old School Modeling. In case you missed it the first Roden kit in this build was finished a while back:




(https://i.postimg.cc/44jQMm3D/IMG-20201205-122722399.jpg)

A few mods using Aviattic and a couple of the actual spare parts from Meng ( Wheels and Axle wing)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 06, 2021, 11:36:43 AM
Here is the teaser I promised. I have painted both props, painted the control horns on both, touched up a few things, and added a spent shell chute to the Roden kit using an Aviattic item. This should be one of the last updates. Next up weathering both, then rigging and final touch up.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/wT0SXV9n/DSCF8705.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/4NJDHMRz/DSCF8707.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/8zY93zJH/DSCF8709.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/0QR3kXCK/DSCF8711.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/h40wnrQh/DSCF8715.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/qMb5hvLT/DSCF8719.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnJM392T/DSCF8713.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/rwDYS2nt/DSCF8716.jpg)






Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 06, 2021, 11:47:48 AM
Fantastic Rick , looking forward on seeing them in the complete section  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 07, 2021, 02:07:17 AM
Fantastic Rick , looking forward on seeing them in the complete section  :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I hope to get a lot done today  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: rfindley on January 07, 2021, 04:52:53 AM
Great builds and I'm picking up a lot of tips for my 1/48 Eduard Dr.1's.

Quick question:  On Kirschstein's striped Jasta 6 a/c.   How did you handle the underwing cross fields?  Did you use a slightly different hue of underside blue or just go the same across the whole wing?  I'm just thinking of what was done on the original a/c when the underside crosses on CDL fields were modified.

TIA

Rick in Virginia
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 07, 2021, 04:58:03 AM
Great builds and I'm picking up a lot of tips for my 1/48 Eduard Dr.1's.

Quick question:  On Kirschstein's striped Jasta 6 a/c.   How did you handle the underwing cross fields?  Did you use a slightly different hue of underside blue or just go the same across the whole wing?  I'm just thinking of what was done on the original a/c when the underside crosses on CDL fields were modified.

TIA

Rick in Virginia

Thanks for the comments. Yes, I went with a slightly lighter blue figuring it was fresh vs the bluish turquoise I used for the base color. One could make an argument the other way and use a darker blue figuring the paint faded with age. It is your call. I went lighter because Many feel the blue went with a slightly darker turquoise tint due to the dope overcoat and yellowing with age.   ::)
RAGIII

PS: I also brushed the lighter blue on using an OLD bottle of Polyscale I had on hand  8)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: rfindley on January 07, 2021, 05:45:31 AM


Thanks for the comments. Yes, I went with a slightly lighter blue figuring it was fresh vs the bluish turquoise I used for the base color. One could make an argument the other way and use a darker blue figuring the paint faded with age. It is your call. I went lighter because Many feel the blue went with a slightly darker turquoise tint due to the dope overcoat and yellowing with age.   ::)
RAGIII

PS: I also brushed the lighter blue on using an OLD bottle of Polyscale I had on hand  8)
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Thanks for the reply.  Your approach and reasoning makes sense to me and I will use a similar scheme when I get to the painting stage
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 08, 2021, 12:53:27 PM
A small update. I have been working on the Encore Boelke figure from the Albatros DII. I have changed out heads replacing the Encore Boelke with a Generic Head from Manta Figurines.

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/rw3sYfZd/IMG-20210107-211311783.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Radarman on January 08, 2021, 01:44:41 PM
RAGIII,
Looking great and the figure has what I would call a very natural stance.
I looks like heís a bit shy about getting photographed by the press.

                                                                                     Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: rhallinger on January 08, 2021, 01:50:48 PM
I love the figure Rick!  Looks very nice.

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: petrov27 on January 08, 2021, 02:30:47 PM
the figure is great - looks fantastic there with the Dr.I
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 09, 2021, 04:21:32 AM
RAGIII,
Looking great and the figure has what I would call a very natural stance.
I looks like heís a bit shy about getting photographed by the press.

                                                                                     Kevin

Thanks Kevin. Greatly appreciated. The figure is still a WIP.
RAGIII

I love the figure Rick!  Looks very nice.

Best,

Bob

Thanks Bob. I appreciate the comments!
RAGIII

the figure is great - looks fantastic there with the Dr.I

Thanks Patrick, as I said to the others, greatly appreciated! Although I am not where I want to be yet I think I am beginning to learn to work with the Valejo flesh tones.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 09, 2021, 08:33:07 AM
Your figure is very handsome Rick  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 09, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
Your figure is very handsome Rick  :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on January 09, 2021, 05:45:39 PM
I think figures look real easy to paint but they're not. It's real hard to paint figures right but you nailed it.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 10, 2021, 01:03:43 AM
I think figures look real easy to paint but they're not. It's real hard to paint figures right but you nailed it.

Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/QM4vg1vN/abm8nh-20210109003433.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on January 10, 2021, 01:38:03 AM
Your figure looks very good.  I'd like to see a broader shot with more of the plane.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 10, 2021, 02:19:34 AM
Your figure looks very good.  I'd like to see a broader shot with more of the plane.

Thanks Ken .Just for you  8)
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/5tzyc8Ds/IMG-20210107-195331437.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kensar on January 10, 2021, 08:32:24 AM
Super awesome!   8)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: gbrivio on January 10, 2021, 06:10:09 PM
Great figure, the trio of Dr.Is is really great as well.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 11, 2021, 03:51:22 AM
Super awesome!   8)

Thanks again Ken  ;D
RAGIII

Great figure, the trio of Dr.Is is really great as well.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thanks for commenting Giuseppe! Greatly appreciated.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Bughunter on January 11, 2021, 04:31:33 AM
Wow!
If you will made an outdoor picture with the right background and some sky it will look real :o

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on January 11, 2021, 04:44:16 AM
It just gets better all the time Rick... Looking just amazing! Marc.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: FAf on January 11, 2021, 06:47:30 AM
Just as brilliant as when I last commented! Truly inspirational work all along and the figure(s) really add to the result.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 11, 2021, 07:11:20 AM
Wow!
If you will made an outdoor picture with the right background and some sky it will look real :o

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank. Any photo I take outside right now would need to be a Winter Snow scene  8)
RAGIII

It just gets better all the time Rick... Looking just amazing! Marc.

Thanks Marc. Greatly appreciated as always!
RAGIII

Just as brilliant as when I last commented! Truly inspirational work all along and the figure(s) really add to the result.
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik! I appreciate the kind comments!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: pepperman42 on January 12, 2021, 09:30:46 AM
Time flies!! Great results

Steve
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Dave Brewer on January 12, 2021, 02:41:41 PM
An absolute treat Rick, as usual with your work. I'm feeling the urge to take up figure painting again, thanks for the inspiration!
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 13, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
Time flies!! Great results

Steve

Thanks for dropping in and commenting Steve!
RAGIII


An absolute treat Rick, as usual with your work. I'm feeling the urge to take up figure painting again, thanks for the inspiration!
Cheers,
Dave.


Thanks Dave. Glad to hear you are inspired!
RAGIII

and now the last update before completed models on the Kirschstein DR1. I have attached all of the rigging. All that is left is painting the wires and adding My usual smoke and mirrors turnbuckles:



(https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4ZRHDr/IMG-20210112-183318440.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/85ycVSNH/IMG-20210112-183216023.jpg)

Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Radarman on January 13, 2021, 12:20:10 PM
RAGIII,
Thatís one dog gone nice looking tri-plane!

                                                    Kevin
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Gisbod on January 13, 2021, 05:50:08 PM
Really nice Rick!

And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages...  ;D

Guy
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Gene K on January 13, 2021, 09:54:22 PM
Your apparent photo skills really complement/compliment these outstanding builds.

Gene K
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 13, 2021, 11:49:29 PM
Really nice Rick!

And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages...  ;D

Guy

That's because you don't offer us any coffee or tea  ;)


Rick ,  :) :) :) :) :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: gedmundson on January 14, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
Very nicely done Rick.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 14, 2021, 09:27:30 AM
RAGIII,
Thatís one dog gone nice looking tri-plane!

                                                    Kevin

Thank you very much Kevin!
RAGIII


Really nice Rick!

And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages...  ;D

Guy


Thanks but I am certain there are Many that are wishing I would Get This Over and Done  ;D
RAGIII

Your apparent photo skills really complement/compliment these outstanding builds.

Gene K

My photo skills are questionable but improved greatly when I got a smart phone that takes better photos than My camera  8)
RAGIII

Really nice Rick!

And well done on having a 28 page topic! People get bored of mine after 2 pages...  ;D

Guy

That's because you don't offer us any coffee or tea  ;)


Rick ,  :) :) :) :) :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII

Very nicely done Rick.
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks for the comment Gary, Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII

So now the last update before completion on the Roden DR1. It is now in the same place as the Meng kit. Rigging done and just need to paint the wires and add smoke and Mirrors Turnbuckles. Also need to add the step and lift handles to both.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/mgt0WTXm/IMG-20210113-175406334.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/d36zw3cx/IMG-20210113-175450372.jpg)


Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 14, 2021, 02:49:50 PM
You know , I'm really starting too feel like I'm being left out of the loop with out a Fokker build going on , You are the Fokker King Rick !

Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: FokkerFodder on January 14, 2021, 06:10:08 PM
A flurry of fokkers indeed! Brilliant work Rick. Well done indeed. Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: ermeio on January 14, 2021, 11:21:44 PM
Also this Fokker is superlative, RAGIII!
A lot to learn from you in these builds.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: FAf on January 15, 2021, 02:35:29 AM
Outstanding paint jobs and modelling! Very pleasing to the eye!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Fvdm on January 15, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
That are two really lovely planes. I like the paintscheme's a lot.
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 16, 2021, 08:03:15 AM
You know , I'm really starting too feel like I'm being left out of the loop with out a Fokker build going on , You are the Fokker King Rick !

Alexis

Don't feel left out Alexis. I will soon be starting a Nieuport...a 28 in My case  ::)
RAGIII

A flurry of fokkers indeed! Brilliant work Rick. Well done indeed. Cheers Matt

Thanks Matt. I appreciate you dropping in and commenting!
RAGIII

Also this Fokker is superlative, RAGIII!
A lot to learn from you in these builds.

Thanks for the comments! It is nice being connected on FB now!
RAGIII

Outstanding paint jobs and modelling! Very pleasing to the eye!
/Fredrik

Thanks for your continued support Fredrik!
RAGIII

That are two really lovely planes. I like the paintscheme's a lot.

Thanks for the comments! Greatly appreciated. I am calling this thread done. I just need to paint the tailskids, (I almost forgot), then do a photo shoot.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 16, 2021, 11:10:03 PM
I will post photos in completed Models soon: Thanks to all for the support!
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/Fsz3wp5y/IMG-20210115-190817791.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: kkarlsen on January 16, 2021, 11:29:06 PM
Those have become some very fine 'dreideckers' Rick - Truely flying Circus worthy!

Cheers: Kent
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Early Bird Fan on January 16, 2021, 11:42:55 PM
that's an awesome looking pair of builds  8)
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Monty on January 17, 2021, 12:30:02 AM
Just so good to look at those two, Rick! A pleasure and an inspiration! ATB, Marc
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: Alexis on January 17, 2021, 12:39:50 AM
Most impressive Rick 1 Looking forward on view more pictures of these very fine builds ! :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: FAf on January 17, 2021, 12:40:16 AM
Just lovely!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng and Roden Fokker DR1: Jasta 4, Jasta 6, and Jasta 11
Post by: RAGIII on January 17, 2021, 03:48:22 AM
Thanks all! The link to the Photos in Completed Models:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11846.0


RAGIII