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Offline macsporran

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2700 on: December 03, 2019, 06:24:45 PM »
Zavod, you are unaware that the UK customs delivery services add a whopping import charge if we try to buy direct from NZ. Also we pay UK VAT on top of NZ TVA! Wonderland prices are usually comparable with any other UK supplier, such as Hannants. You have the good luck to be able to import directly, without being stung for doing so: be happy.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2701 on: December 03, 2019, 08:03:14 PM »
even so, Hannant's prices aren't that much higher than on the WNW site.

i seriously doubt that the dreidecker will have a higher list price than the post war Ninak.

also it's worth noting anyone quoting a price at this point is just making it up.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2702 on: December 03, 2019, 09:13:00 PM »
Generally Hannants quote the U.S. dollar figure in GBP, so they are usually about 30% higher than WNW, unless they don't sell and the price is dropped a little.
I hope the price for the Dr.1 is wrong but have given up trying to understand WNW pricing. Why for example is the DH9a 119 bucks but the post-war DH9a 139 bucks. They're pretty well the same kit. I can only think they use different suppliers for the mouldings and calculate price as a percentage of actual cost. In which case it would depend where the Dr.1 is pressed/printed/ etched!
Let's hope it is actually 79-89 bucks. No lozenge so hopefully not 99USD.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2703 on: December 04, 2019, 04:17:49 AM »
Generally Hannants quote the U.S. dollar figure in GBP, so they are usually about 30% higher than WNW, unless they don't sell and the price is dropped a little.
I hope the price for the Dr.1 is wrong but have given up trying to understand WNW pricing. Why for example is the DH9a 119 bucks but the post-war DH9a 139 bucks. They're pretty well the same kit. I can only think they use different suppliers for the mouldings and calculate price as a percentage of actual cost. In which case it would depend where the Dr.1 is pressed/printed/ etched!
Let's hope it is actually 79-89 bucks. No lozenge so hopefully not 99USD.

i compared the post-war ninak with the ninak a few months ago (coinciding precisely with the 10th anniversary sale) and persuaded myself that there was extra parts or something in the post-war. I went with the post-war, but it's probably confirmation bias coz i'd already determined i was interested in doing one of the defenders of the people's glorious revolution...

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2704 on: December 04, 2019, 04:45:08 AM »
Generally Hannants quote the U.S. dollar figure in GBP, so they are usually about 30% higher than WNW, unless they don't sell and the price is dropped a little.
I hope the price for the Dr.1 is wrong but have given up trying to understand WNW pricing. Why for example is the DH9a 119 bucks but the post-war DH9a 139 bucks. They're pretty well the same kit. I can only think they use different suppliers for the mouldings and calculate price as a percentage of actual cost. In which case it would depend where the Dr.1 is pressed/printed/ etched!
Let's hope it is actually 79-89 bucks. No lozenge so hopefully not 99USD.

i compared the post-war ninak with the ninak a few months ago (coinciding precisely with the 10th anniversary sale) and persuaded myself that there was extra parts or something in the post-war. I went with the post-war, but it's probably confirmation bias coz i'd already determined i was interested in doing one of the defenders of the people's glorious revolution...

What surprises me is that Wingnuts show us all the information on their website and we still don't always pay attention. There is an extra set of parts (J) in the post war DH.9a and it was also manufactured 5 years after the original, but I doubt that would affect the price as much as the extra parts might.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2705 on: December 04, 2019, 04:54:23 AM »
Zavod, you are unaware that the UK customs delivery services add a whopping import charge if we try to buy direct from NZ. Also we pay UK VAT on top of NZ TVA! Wonderland prices are usually comparable with any other UK supplier, such as Hannants. You have the good luck to be able to import directly, without being stung for doing so: be happy.

Only NZ customers are charged NZGST (their equivalent of UKVAT) when ordering direct from wingnuts. Quoted from the Wingnuts website FAQ;

...New Zealand customers please note that NZ GST will be added to your order at check out but is included in your postage cost...

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2706 on: December 04, 2019, 05:29:17 AM »
What surprises me is that Wingnuts show us all the information on their website and we still don't always pay attention. There is an extra set of parts (J) in the post war DH.9a and it was also manufactured 5 years after the original, but I doubt that would affect the price as much as the extra parts might.
yah that's what i was referring to.

however, my memory is crap. it was crap when i was 6 and hasn't gotten less crap.

the extra sprue implies design and engineering costs etc. so, it makes sense. speaking for myself i have never found WNW's pricing mysterious. even the D.VII. there are a ton of (not that appealing compared to Aviattic) lozenge decals. i don't always agree but i feel like i get their thinking.

that's why i don't think the GBP 120 driedecker is a thing.



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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2707 on: December 04, 2019, 07:20:17 AM »
What surprises me is that Wingnuts show us all the information on their website and we still don't always pay attention. There is an extra set of parts (J) in the post war DH.9a and it was also manufactured 5 years after the original, but I doubt that would affect the price as much as the extra parts might.
yah that's what i was referring to.

however, my memory is crap. it was crap when i was 6 and hasn't gotten less crap.

the extra sprue implies design and engineering costs etc. so, it makes sense. speaking for myself i have never found WNW's pricing mysterious. even the D.VII. there are a ton of (not that appealing compared to Aviattic) lozenge decals. i don't always agree but i feel like i get their thinking.

that's why i don't think the GBP 120 driedecker is a thing.

Agreed.

And don't forget the Fokker D.VII has about twice as many sprues as most other Wingnuts single seat fighter models. Surely that has to affect the overall price, even more so than the numerous extra decal sheets.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2708 on: December 04, 2019, 07:41:16 AM »
Is there going to be a Christmas release?

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2709 on: December 04, 2019, 08:12:30 AM »
Is there going to be a Christmas release?

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Seems not. The usual Christmas banner is on and no sign of any new kit release. But still, I would wait till the end of this week.
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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2710 on: December 04, 2019, 02:43:30 PM »
Is there going to be a Christmas release?

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Seems not. The usual Christmas banner is on and no sign of any new kit release. But still, I would wait till the end of this week.
I'd be happy to see the pre-ordered kits ship before they go on holiday. But then again it might be safer to wait until the holiday rush is well over.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2711 on: December 05, 2019, 06:32:16 AM »
Is there going to be a Christmas release?

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Seems not. The usual Christmas banner is on and no sign of any new kit release. But still, I would wait till the end of this week.

I expected a Hanriot or similar to pop out, but I wasn't holding my breath.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2712 on: December 05, 2019, 05:13:34 PM »
they've confirmed in podcast interviews that the Dreidecker happened coz they are listening to modelers. the noise about "more French subjects" has been nearly as loud as the Dr.1 noise, so i'm cautiously optimistic that some day we'll see a Hanriot.

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2713 on: December 05, 2019, 07:22:30 PM »
they've confirmed in podcast interviews that the Dreidecker happened coz they are listening to modelers. the noise about "more French subjects" has been nearly as loud as the Dr.1 noise, so i'm cautiously optimistic that some day we'll see a Hanriot.

... and Copper State Models will get back to 1/48th scale planes and 1/35th scale AFV. That's it. The world's in order again.
And now: C'me on, Wingnut Wings!

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Re: Time for the annual Wingnuts speculation
« Reply #2714 on: December 06, 2019, 08:48:02 PM »
they've confirmed in podcast interviews that the Dreidecker happened coz they are listening to modelers. the noise about "more French subjects" has been nearly as loud as the Dr.1 noise, so i'm cautiously optimistic that some day we'll see a Hanriot.

... and Copper State Models will get back to 1/48th scale planes and 1/35th scale AFV. That's it. The world's in order again.
And now: C'me on, Wingnut Wings!
unlike Roden, CSM have shown no indication of slowing down on 1/32 planes while doing so. they just posted box art for the upcoming Nieuport 21 and 23 on Facebook.