Encore/Roden SE5a McCudden 56 sq.. Phoenix thrice Risen

[Rookie]

You are making good progress Rick.

Everything is looking excellent in this tiny scale!

Willem

Thanks Willem but.... This one is 1/32nd scale 
RAGIII

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Willem

[lone modeller]

If you are slowing down, what are you like when you work quickly!?

This is looking very promising Rick. I do hope that the model continues to assemble well and that you manage to avoid the pitfalls which have dogged some of your other builds.

Stephen.

[RAGIII]

The good thing about taking a break from the inter-webs is I get to return just at the right time!
Lovely work on the SE Rick!!
Congrats 

Keep on keeping on.
Cheers,
Bob
 

Thanks Bob, It is good to have you back! Are you still dealing in Strippetrs ? If so send Me a PM as I need your info for ordering 
RAGIII

You are making good progress Rick.

Everything is looking excellent in this tiny scale!

Willem

Thanks Willem but.... This one is 1/32nd scale 
RAGIII

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Willem

 
RAGIII

If you are slowing down, what are you like when you work quickly!?

This is looking very promising Rick. I do hope that the model continues to assemble well and that you manage to avoid the pitfalls which have dogged some of your other builds.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen.  I said I was trying to slow down. We shall see 
RAGIII

[RichieW]

Thanks Richie. Yes, the Hisso could be detailed and would look terrific. On the SE one could easily leave off one or both engine covers to display the engine. I like MY aircraft buttoned up so like I said, No Need to super detail.


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Buttoned up as nature intended is good, the overall shape and sit of an aircraft is what appeals to me first. The SE5a is such a wonderful looking beast it would be a shame to corrupt those graceful lines.

Richie

[Early Bird Fan]

looking great, roll on the next update 

[Europapete]

Looking great Rick, nice additions. Quick Q though, what is that big cone shaped hole supposed to be on the underside of the cockpit? I have never seen that feature before on an SE5a. Regards, Pete in RI.

[RAGIII]

looking great, roll on the next update 

Thanks for looking in and the comment!
RAGIII

Looking great Rick, nice additions. Quick Q though, what is that big cone shaped hole supposed to be on the underside of the cockpit? I have never seen that feature before on an SE5a. Regards, Pete in RI.

Thanks for the comment! Also thanks for pointing out the cone shaped hole. It is below the conical piece that the ruffer bar fits to on the inside of the cockpit. A quick check of My completed WNW kit shows a rectangular hatch in that general location. I also looked at My Roden 1/48th SE5a and it also has a panel/hatch.





So I will do some further research and most likely cover the hole with a panel 

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[Mike Norris]

Hi Rich,
That panel was apparently for cooling the underside of the engine bay.
On the earlier SE5 it seems that this panel had a flap type cover, which was hinged at the straight, rear edge.
Doubtless operated by the pilot as required.
From photographs of the later SE5a it seems it had a permanent opening for cooling.

Mike

[RAGIII]

Hi Rich,
That panel was apparently for cooling the underside of the engine bay.
On the earlier SE5 it seems that this panel had a flap type cover, which was hinged at the straight, rear edge.
Doubtless operated by the pilot as required.
From photographs of the later SE5a it seems it had a permanent opening for cooling.

Mike

Thanks Mike. Interesting in that I didn't realize the "D" shaped opening ever had a cover! That being said the question was reference the circular opening to the rear of the "D" on the 1/32nd Roden kit.  The drawings confirm what Roden ( 1/48th kit) and WNW did in offering a plate. The only question now is the exact location as both differ slightly from the drawing 



PS: I looked at the photos that Richie posted and it has the panel in the WNW position so I will go with that 

[Mike Norris]

Hi Rich,
Aaah I understand.
Here's the SE5a underside.
Actually that conical indent looks more like its for a model stand to fit into, rather than an aircraft part?

Mike

[RAGIII]

Hi Rich,
Aaah I understand.
Here's the SE5a underside.
Actually that conical indent looks more like its for a model stand to fit into, rather than an aircraft part?

Mike

Thanks again Mike. Like I said I will go with what WNW represented on their kit. However I did find an SE5a in the WNW archive photos that clearly show a round opening like provided by Roden  I am attaching a link but not sure it will go where it is intended. One May need to scroll through the photos.
RAGIII

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3&cat=1

Just checked and as I feared just links to the archive photo page. It is the 41st photo that I am referring to  Perhaps it is what is covered by the plate?

[Mike Norris]

Hi Rich,
Hmmm I saw those archive shots.
Strange that its not on the WNW or the Vintage aircraft.
Check out James Fahey's photos

Mike

https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/SE5a/

[Europapete]

Interesting photo Rich. Have not seen one like that before, pitty the area is a bit fuzzy. But there is definately something there. Getting back the the drawings Mike posted. The large half moon opening is indeed for cooling, but never had a cover over it on any SE5 variant. The half moon panel A10799 is the end cap of the fuel tank.  The small rectangular opening is the spent cartridge case schute from the vickers, and the square-ish hinged flap/hatch is access to the fuel tank drain valve. Regards, Pete in RI

[Europapete]

Nice photo's! Although in the cockpit shots you can see the square hatch, this reproduction a/c has nothing above it. On the Shuttleworth a/c, (an original 1918 build) there is the tank drain valve, also in period photo's the valve can be seen.  Regards, Pete.

[Mike Norris]

Hi Pete,
Good information,

Thanks,

Mike