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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2021, 05:32:41 PM »
Meticulous work Willem, you really are on good form with this now!

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2021, 09:59:06 PM »
So much awesome work going into this, thumbs Up!!!

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #122 on: June 10, 2021, 09:03:59 PM »
Thanks Alexis, Richie and Kent for your encouraging words.

@ Richie (Bristol Scout C 1/32 First scratch build attempt)

Those struts look awesome Richie!

Willem

Many thanks Willem, sorry I missed this post before. How's your build going? Loved your last few updates!

Thanks for your kind words Richie.

Well, after posting the pics of the painted fins and rudders, I started doubting about the ribs. The camera is unforgiving, and I wonder if the ribs are too pronounced. Should I sand them down a little more?

Comments are welcome.

Rib tape

I considered applying rib tape to all the flying surfaces, but I decided against it. I have some good pictures of how it looked and I did some tests with a riveter tool on 0.25 mm styrene and stiff, paper. The result in both cases were disappointing. (top: paper, bottom: styrene.)



I looked on the internet for rib tape decals, but couldn’t find anything suitable. And even if I would it would be very costly, because there are so many…

So, I’ll take a 'poetic license' as Mike calls it, and leave them off.

The upper stabilizer:

The trailing edge supports the 6 female hinges for the elevators, 2 cabane struts , the pivot points for the 4 rudders and 4 of the fin brackets. The spar near the leading edge supports 4 interplane struts and the other 2 cabane struts. On top are 4 guides for the elevator control cables. The four other fin brackets are mounted between the leading edge and spar.

Here are some pictures of how it looks now and the jig I made, before the ribs are applied. I will finish the two elevators first, so I can align them with the stabilizer. I also have to figure out the how to make the rigging points at this stage.







The elevators:

The leading edge of each elevator supports 3 hinges and 2 control horns. The middle spar has the 6 connection points for the control cables.

Here’s a layout of the parts I need for each of the four elevators.



The next couple of day I don't have much time to work on the tailplane. I have been assigned to garden duty. The weeds are threatening to block our way out of the house and the garden is starting to look like the Amazonian rainforest...but,

I'll be back.

Willem



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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2021, 09:31:22 PM »
Thanks for the report on the rib tape attempt.  We can all learn something from the unsuccessful attempts as well as the successful ones.
Your build is coming along very nicely.  I'll predict that it will be a superb model when finished.
Are the tips of the upper stabilizer made from styrene?

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #124 on: June 10, 2021, 09:50:33 PM »

Are the tips of the upper stabilizer made from styrene?


Thanks for the kind comment Ken.

Yes, the tips are made from layered styrene:



These are the parts that I dislike making the most. They have to fit snug and straight, and it takes a lot of sanding, shaving and polishing and tapering,  and I need to make 4 for the stabilizers and 8 more smaller ones for the elevators...

Willem

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2021, 11:17:44 PM »
Great update with more careful planning, I found rib tapes to be a major headache too. I've been trying to add them using paint but the results are a little sketchy. I found this fantastic method on a modeller's website. I won't be trying it this time but maybe on another project. It is well worth having a look around his site, his skills are other worldly!

https://www.spitfireinmyworkshop.net/technique.php?id=9&title=fabric-stringing-and-stitching

Keep at it Willem, you're work is looking incredibly refined, I'm really enjoying scrambling up the learning curve together. :)

Richie

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #126 on: June 11, 2021, 12:47:45 AM »
 Aviattic sells three types of 1/32nd scale photoetch rib tapes.

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #127 on: June 11, 2021, 01:07:09 AM »
Thanks for that Berman, but for the complete model I would need a little more than 19 feet.

And about 19 years to apply them.  ;D

Willem
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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #128 on: June 11, 2021, 01:29:02 AM »
Thanks for the link Richie, that's a great and educational site.

Not only the part about the rib-stiching adventure, but the whole "Techniques" section!

Willem

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #129 on: June 11, 2021, 01:41:02 AM »
Thought you might enjoy it Willem, he individually put over 60 thousand miniature rivets into a perfect nut and bolt Spitfire build, mad but brilliant! :)

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #130 on: June 11, 2021, 10:18:34 PM »
Outstanding progress! You and Richie are getting better with each update!
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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #131 on: June 11, 2021, 10:29:01 PM »
Agree with Rick  :)


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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #132 on: June 17, 2021, 05:54:36 PM »
Thanks Richie, Berman, Rick and Alexis for the kind words. You all keep me motivated to carry on.

Here are a few pics of the top stabilizer and its elevators with the ribs applied. The new jig helped to allign the ribs properly. Before I clean them up, I'm going to work on the lower stabilizers and elevators first.





I'll be back

Willem

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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #133 on: June 17, 2021, 09:49:27 PM »
Looking really good with those ribs Willem , nice clean work so far big thumbs up ! :)


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Re: Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2021, 10:32:11 PM »
Excellent work on the rib tapes!
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