Author Topic: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project  (Read 45027 times)

Offline Whiteknuckles

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #90 on: January 24, 2013, 08:12:54 PM »
Lots of great work there Bob, thanks for the detailed progress.
I can see that this sort of modelling must be very satisfying and rewarding.

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2013, 12:59:56 AM »
  Bob,
Excellent progress on her wings my old friend. You've got beaucoup sanding ahead of you now. Looking forward to seeing the results in the near future. Thank you for such a informative thread.
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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2013, 02:34:56 AM »
Hello Bob:

This is really coming along nicely.  The photo's of the 1/48 scale a/c are motivating.  What a neat looking airplane!  I am looking foward to see how you wrap this up. 

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2013, 05:20:25 AM »
Thanks for the kind words everyone.  This project is a real learning experience for me, and I am enjoying it, even though the pace may be a bit haphazrd and slower than a kit. 

The last few days have been spent sanding the bottom wings to proper shape (boy, were you right Gregory--beaucoup de sanding! ;)), and locating and drilling the holes necessary in the fuselage to accept wings, cabane struts, landing gear struts, tailplane, etc.  This is actually far more involved than one might think, and I am still working through it SLOWLY.  A good deal of measuring, checking and rechecking plans is required, along with reference to the size of the parts to be joined and the brass rod/tube necessary for the joints.  In addition, to ensure a solid joint, it is necessary (or so it seems to me) to add reinforcement of the vac fuselage with additional thickness of styrene behind the joints.  All of this noodle work slows progress, but is essential I believe.  I just have to temper my natural impatience. ;)

I have also found that the scratchbuild sort of unfolds in directions I may not have planned.  For example, before adding the tabs along the fuselage havles that will allow closure of the fuselage, I needed to drill out all of the fuselage openings for attachment points, etc., as it would be difficult to drill the fuselage shell with the tabs protruding, and if I join them first it will be impossible to easily add reinforcement behind the attachment points.  This process necessitated fabrication of the lower wings so I could be sure of the profile and what size brass rod/tube it could reasonably accommodate, as well as the tailplanes.  In addition, the cabane struts needed to be fabricated, and completion of the engine will be necessary so that supports can be properly located on each side of the still-open fuselage.  I have been working on the engine lately for that purpose.

I suppose the highly organized and technical ones among us can work out all these details in advance with a comprehensive plan, but for me, I simply try to think the next few major steps through before plunging ahead, and make sure I've covered all the bases, rather than planning it all out at the beginning.  It does make for very deliberate progress. ;)  I've also spent some time going back and reading through all of the 1/48 Lloyd C.V build logs from start to finish, and that has proven to be very helpful in making sure I don't overlook anything as I proceed, along with being great motivation! :D

So, lots of little steps proceeding forward all aimed at allowing completion of the fuselage and closing it up.  I'll have more pix soon, when there's a bit more to show.  As always, since this is the first time I'm doing this, any helpul suggestions or hints are welcome.  Thanks all.

Regards,

Bob   

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2013, 07:34:18 AM »
Sounds like the challenge is an enjoyable one. Looking forward to the pics.

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2013, 02:14:55 PM »
Looky here . . . an engine has appeared ;):



I completed (mostly) the basic Benz BZ.IV (from WNW) for the WKF-built Series 82 Lloyd, which I needed to do in order to properly locate the engine bearers inside the fuselage sides.  Since most of this will be invisible once the fuselage is closed up (and I have no plans or photos of the interior of the engine compartment anyway!), nothing fancy here--just lateral bearers on either side of the engine from styrene L girder.  Everything appears to line up properly, so now it's off to the paintshop to take care of the engine compartment interior.

My further work has led me to more photos of the Series 82 machines, so I will need to make some changes, as I was working from plans for a Series 46 aircraft.  The basic aircraft is the same, but there are some detail changes relating to accommodation of the larger and more powerful  Benz engine.  I have removed the front top part of the engine cover per photos, and I will need to drill out a pair of square vent openings with wire screen coverings on the right side of the engine compartment and add a pair of louvers as well, all required for additional cooling of the Benz engine.  No probllem! ;)

I'll let you know how all of this is shaking out by the weekend.

Regards,

Bob

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2013, 02:23:20 PM »
Looks great Bob.!

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2013, 10:02:32 PM »
  Bob,
Your Lloyd project just keeps getting more and more impressive with each new update my old friend. Well Done!
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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2013, 11:10:18 PM »
Modelling in the truest sense of the word - Excellent!
Looking forward to seeing more updates.

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #99 on: February 01, 2013, 03:46:20 AM »
Exquisite craftsmanship, Bob!  Can't wait for the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2013, 08:59:03 AM »
Looking very sharp Bob, the engine looks great sitting in position, can't wait to see what you do next.

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2013, 05:14:02 AM »
Im reeeeeally liking the looks of this. You must be pleased with the results so far!!

Steve

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2013, 04:36:23 PM »
That's really looking good, Bob.  Youse blokes that can scratch build really impress me.

Of course the best bit is that three months after you finish your build, WNW will announce they're releasing their kit of this aircraft!  ;)

Excellent work, mate.

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #103 on: February 08, 2013, 12:38:44 AM »
Thanks everyone.  Right you are, Dal!  I would welcome a WNW release, even after the scratchbuild, because I would love to do one of these with the Austro-Daimler engine and in Autumn mottle camo.  Most importantly, release of a WNW Lloyd kit with an Austro-Daimler engine would surely herald many more A-H types!  Oh, for a 1/32 OEFFAG Alby! ;)  We can dream, can't we? ;D

I am forging ahead (slowly) this week, but the work on the fuselage halves is pretty much complete, with all attachment points for wings and tailplanes drilled out and reinforced where needed, the structural engine bearers added, and the remaining cockpit details (except the observer's table) added to the fuselage interior walls.  I have also cut out the engine compartment vent holes on the starboard side and backed them with HO scale brass screen.  Styrene attachment tabs have now been added to one side of the fuselage.   Photos soon.

While I was at it this past weekend, I also fabricated the landing gear struts.  This involved some experimentation, which tested my patience a wee bit.  I first tried styrene tube in a vise to get the elliptical shape, but the tube either cracked or would not form properly, so I tried heating it.  No better results. :(   I started sanding some styrene rod, but that was taking forever when I realized that rectangular strip with edges sanded round would be much easier. :P  That worked!  I used a horizontal triangle of the same strip to form the bottom 'V" of the struts, and pinned and glued the struts to the V.  I have drilled holes in the top of the struts for brass wire pins, as metal rod braces were actually used and visible on the prototype as well, and will make for a solid connection on the model.  The axle will be bungee'd to the top of the vee.

I have started assembling the HGW seatbelts and have installed them on the observer's seat.  Although the PE parts are tiny, I was surprised at how they went together relatively quickly and without much difficulty.  The only issue I encountered was not cutting the belt material narrow enough initially to thread through the adjustment buckle.  The straight edge and #11 blade took care of that quickly.  I am pleased with how these belts look, and how easy it is to get them to lay nicely on the seat.  They seem to work better in that regard than the metal ones, which I sometimes have problems with because the tend to bend only in one direction and can remain a bit stiff even after annealing.  I will try to complete the installation of belts on the pilot's seat this evening. 

The next step will be a bit more detailing of the top end of the engine, i.e. spark plug wires, since they are pretty clearly visible.  This will be a bit tedious (not my favorite thing to do, either), but should work out okay.  With any luck, I will then be ready to close up the fuselage perhaps by the end of this weekend. :)  That will be a big event in this build!  There will still be a good bit of detailing to add to the exterior of the fuselage once it is closed up and the seams taken care of, but that should move fairly quickly (if one can say anything moves "quickly" in a scratchbuild!) ;).

The wings are cut out and formed, but still require a good bit of sanding to proper shape.  The tail planes and fin are cut out and sanded as well, but I still need to fabricate the ailerons and elevators.  I think I will do those as solid parts with some sanding and painting to pick out the framing, rather than building a skelton and covering it.  Too much else to do! :D
Then . . . the cabane struts and top wing mounting bracket, which may be one of the bigger challenges (and will require some soldering of brass rod/tube, which I will have to get some help with), along with the radiator and piping. 

Sorry for this lengthy ramble, but it sort of just happened, a form of thinking out loud which helps me to take stock of where I am and what else needs to be done on this build.  Thanks for listening.  Some fun, eh! :D  Updated pix this weekend.

Regards,

Bob

 

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Re: Lloyd C.V 1/32 Scratch Build Project
« Reply #104 on: February 08, 2013, 05:02:36 AM »
These scratch build threads make me awestruck to say the least.
Truly an inspiration.
-Roger