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Offline krow113

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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2018, 07:44:11 AM »
Thanks Michael.
 And have a look back and see if I've done the camshaft assy properly, there is a gap there now , I think there is an issue...



P.S. The 'lollypop' you referred to is the housing for the cam drive, a series of bevel cut gears that drive off the crankshaft and drive the camshaft.

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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2018, 07:48:09 AM »
IMHO there should be no gap between the camshaft and the cylinders.
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2018, 08:02:10 AM »
IMHO there should be no gap between the camshaft and the cylinders.
I agree.
Going back to the a/m kits supplied rudimentary drawings the 'stands are flush with the bottom of the camshaft housing.
A slight trimming will be needed....!

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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2018, 10:55:26 AM »


Looks like light comes through to me.  YOu gotta have room for all of those push rods, springs, and retainers to work and move.

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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2018, 01:15:24 PM »
Thanks Gaz.
There may be some discussion as to the white background on your pic , it looks 'inserted' into the picture. Obviously a lot of photoshopping going on with that pic too! Thanks for posting it!
Another from Umoter to support the gap theory:

I  certainly will entertain any info that's relevant. It appears that the camshaft is a separate casting from the cylinders and heads , I can definitely believe that. From an engineering standpoint an air gap makes sense as the top of the head would pretty much be the hottest part of the engine, no need to transfer that heat to the cam.
Easy to check the camshaft height a number of ways.

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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2018, 01:29:30 PM »
Recently I built the Mercedes D.III engine by Master Details.  It also had a raised cam.
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2018, 05:37:03 AM »
I am sure you will figure out the answer of the gap with your continued research. It looks to me that there is a gap just seems a bit excessive on the model, or that could just be the angle of your photo.
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2018, 02:16:24 PM »
Gaz , RIII thanks muchly.
  Some answers , check back to the work one page back...

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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2018, 11:13:54 PM »
Looking back I still see a gap but I will add again Not As Pronounced as the model. JMHO. I hope this is your conclusion also or I am really Bad at Photo Interpretation  :-\
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2018, 07:05:44 AM »
 No worries Rick!
There IS a gap! I'll measure and record it but as to perfect accuracy well , we try.
Today brought what , hopefully , is the last of the Gotha palette colors :

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« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2018, 08:23:37 AM »
Nice collection of paints! DB I believe?
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2018, 05:19:53 PM »
these paints are fantastic. You'll love them. I just get sad when I get drops of paint on the outside of the bottle ... They look so pretty...
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« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2018, 11:45:39 PM »
these paints are fantastic. You'll love them. I just get sad when I get drops of paint on the outside of the bottle ... They look so pretty...
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That is kind of funny to me as when I opened my RAF blue on Sturday I didn't realize that the bottle is so full that the paint spilled out generously, all over my hand and the bottle. My hand was blue for a few days.
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2018, 12:40:11 AM »
Thanks RIII and Borsos.
Yup , that there is yer Drooling Bulldog paint set.
I opted for the set as it only required a 10 year mortgage....
Good to know about their quantity and quality. I imagined I would use them to color match or add to colors.
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Re: The Gotha
« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2018, 02:49:17 AM »
Easy enough to drill out and dress the 2 air supply holes at the front of the engine , as well as the location for the oil level sight glass . I'll be cutting some vinyl shapes to finish these off:

Also the first application from the HGW p/e set for this engine ,  looking at the set I see only a few parts to use , this ring  which needs to be detailed itself , is one of them:

 A note on this p/e ring. The bolt representation is very shallow , I'll be adding more p/e to this p/e for the hardware. The ring fits ok, shave the two sides of the crankcase assy where they join and the ring will slip right on. The bolt pattern is a little off , rotate the ring until you get the top bolts lined up , hopefully the out of line one or two wont be too visible on th bottom. I think it would have been just as easy to get the bolt pattern to match as not match.
Sometimes the rush to a/m can be problematic for model builders.


















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