Author Topic: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.  (Read 47543 times)

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Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« on: September 07, 2016, 09:20:34 AM »
    I've been waiting for the arrival of some After Market parts and delayed opening the Log for this Build. In the interim I've got a good start on the project and will bring it up to date over several entries. I also started the Wingnut Wings Hansa Brandenburg W.12 for the Group Build and will be doing the two roughly in parallel, a first for me. (you are a bad influence, RAG III!)

    I've elected the same scheme as on the Kit Box, Capt Billy Bishop's Ni. 17 while with 60 Squadron RFC at Filescamp Farm in France in July 1917.



    I have a good supply of references for the Build:





    After Market additions to the Kit will be the Mastercaster's Cockpit Resin Detail Set and also their cowling and corrected wheel set. Additionally the Tom's Modelworks Photo Etch Detail Set, a gift from a fellow Forumite.



   Finally I'll be using masks for the markings in lieu of decals; this set from Mal at Miracle Masks. This step will be another first for me.



    I'll publish the next update later today or tomorrow and continue them until caught up to real time. Given my occasional "fits of age induced ditziness" don't be surprised should this double Build event result in the HB.12's floats getting mounted on this Nieuport or Bishop's markings on Christiansen's H.B.!! :o :-[ Just be polite and gentle if required................
Cheers,
Lance


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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2016, 03:16:53 PM »
Ahh, it seems that you have all ingredients to cook an other gourmet meal for us. I will watch with interest.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2016, 04:37:04 PM »
Good luck with the double build, Lance!
I have trouble with one let alone two!!

Looking forward to seeing your updates.

vB   ;)



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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2016, 05:19:09 PM »
Sorry Lance  ::) That being said I am looking forward to following along on this one as well as the already started W12!
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2016, 08:43:24 PM »
A nice choice and a great collection of reference material and AM goodies bodes well for the makings of yet another masterpiece Lance  ;)

I'm with Von Bob though - I don't think I could cope with double vision  :D

Looking forwards to further updates

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 12:17:19 AM »
Thanks for your encouraging comments Guys. As for keeping up with the challenges of a Double Build, only time will tell! :-\
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 12:58:36 AM »
    Time for another update to get this Thread caught up to the Build; only a few more required.
    This is a very simple little kit, the total parts numbering around two dozen. The basic molding is good, measurements and accuracy quite reasonable, and it provides a good platform to produce a decent model of the subject. Detail is lacking however, and thus the large number of A/M bits to be accompanied by some scratched additions. Last, I find the plastic difficult to work with. Unlike the soft easily worked plastic in Roden and Wingnut's offerings it is extremely hard and very brittle; care must be taken to avoid breakage, especially with the more delicate parts.
    I started with removing the basic parts from their sprues, a lot of flash, ejector pin marks, and molding marks had to be cleaned up. Control surfaces were separated from the component parts and the secondary wing "riblets" along the top leading edges were sanded down to reduce their exaggerated profiles. The main rib tapes were left as was, they appear well done as represented.





     The frame work represented on the rudder was removed as it is far too exaggerated, this detail can be represented with a little post shading at the painting stage.





    The fuselage foot step was carved out and cleaned up, the "Tom's" Photo Etch set has a metal outline for it to be added later.



     I also removed the molded internal bracing wires etc from the insides of the fuselage and cleaned up the pin marks etc., before and after left to right here.



    The strut fairings on the under surfaces of the lower wings were far too small; they were shaved off and replaced with scratch versions made with scrap from my Evergreen "bundle".



    Last at this stage was the stitching on the forward fuselage, a detail I puzzled over for days. Options included leaving them as is (unrealistic appearance IMHO), Photo etch, which I judged out of scale and lacking in relief, and finally the real thing, hand stitched through 78 drilled out rivets. Inspired by Greg's success in his Build I chose the latter and am quite happy with the results. I'll add the "flap" that covers to top portion of this detail at the finishing stage.
    Here's the stitching as on the Kit......



    Stitching in progress with holes drilled and rivets "raised" with a little work with a sharp pin. Line is 0.12mm Maxima Chameleon.



    And the finished version........



      Next update, the engine and I should be back to a real time footing.
Cheers,
Lance




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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 02:07:41 AM »
This will be a terrific project, Lance!  You're off to a brilliant start with the stitching.  Very cool.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 04:53:32 AM »
I am most definitely looking forward to this as I'm building something similar. Already you've done things I would never have thought of. Brilliant work
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2016, 04:56:06 AM »
A great start on this one, Lance! I'm really going to enjoy the progress... Regards, Marc.

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2016, 04:59:26 AM »
Hi Lance,

Another build to follow I see :) Good luck and I will be watching you :)

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 05:18:50 AM »
    Many Thanks gents, your comments are very much appreciated! Progress will be slow as I switch between this and the W.12 Build unless I "shelve" one and concentrate on the other. For now I hope to press on with both.
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 05:52:36 AM »
    here's the next retro update and final one I hope, then I can start working in real time. I considered an after market engine but given it's a Le Rhone 9 with not much detail visible once cowled and very little detail on the face I decided to improve the Kit's very basic version. The Kit engine comes in 4 pretty "rough" pieces.......



   After a lot of clean up the crankcase was assembled and the valves were removed from the intake sides of the cylinders and replaced by Taurus valves from the scrap box.



Taurus valves and springs in place.....



   At this point the basic painting was done, the copper exhaust manifolds added, spare Taurus valve lifters added and Taurus short version spark plugs replaced the "stubs" molded on the cylinders.



    Following that step I scratched an ignition wire race for the back of the engine, added the plug wiring, and installed the new stainless (guitar wire) push rods to the previously drilled out brass lifter fittings at the bottom end and some scrap Taurus upper lifter fittings at the top end.



   Finally here's a front and back view if the finished and "dirtied" Le Rhone.



   I've thanked Wonder Dog for the generous donation of his DNA in this last shot and removed the hair when he wasn't watching!



    And that Folks, brings me up to date on progress thus far. Having received the Mastercaster's Sets ordered from Hannants I'll now start on the cockpit portion of the Build. I'll be leaning heavily on the experience gained by many of you here who have completed this Kit prior, and really appreciate access to your experiences. :)
Cheers!
Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 07:46:57 AM »
The work you have done so far is superb Lance, excellent job with the stitching and the engine has ended up looking brilliant, this will be a build I will be following closely.

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 07:51:29 AM »

That's a very nice result for a basic kit supplied engine Lance. I particularly like that coppery finish on the intake (?) tubes - what paint did you use and was it brushed or sprayed? Neat trick with those stitching holes too, very effective.

What with you and Rick doing multiple builds my desire to get back at the bench as soon as possible has been given a real boost  ;) - Won't be long now  :)

Regards - Tug