Author Topic: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.  (Read 47557 times)

Offline Borsos

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2016, 06:18:48 AM »
Lance, I already found this and must say how great to see you building this kit! I think one never can have enough Nieuports and this one in its Italieri box with Pere Dorme markings has a prominent place in my to do list. I too have the mastercaster sets and I am very happy to be able to follow your progress closely. I will shamelessly copy your clever way to represent the fuselage stitching and I really love how you reworked the fabric covered surfaces. I've seen this kit built by people who changed the cockpit opening. Are you planning to do that?
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2016, 01:16:49 PM »
Borsos,
    I had read earlier somewhere that the cockpit opening needs modification but I can't remember where. It looks too wide to me, do you have specific information or a reference? As for the stitching and cockpit etc. please use whatever you wish, that's why I post all of my Builds, to share! On this one I'm drawing from Greg, Adam, and Andonio's Builds as well.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2016, 03:52:22 PM »
Lance, thank you. Yes, I was talking about this built: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=26700 But this guy even widens the cockpit opening.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2016, 10:51:07 PM »
Borsos,
     Thank you, I had not seen this one, and it will be very helpful, I will make the change. It also cleared up some confusion I had regarding the indented portion of the underside of the fuselage just behind the engine and also a hint as to how to approach modifying the cowling joins from top to sides. Great article, really appreciate your sharing here!
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2016, 05:48:03 AM »
   Some plastic cutting has been completed since the last activity; The forward lower fuselage has been modified to provide the exhaust channel not molded in the Kit. The opening is as follows, and will be covered with either an aluminum or brass shaped panel or, second choice, plastic.



.........and the cutout completed:



   As suggested by Borsos I compared the cockpit opening to the drawings in the references; some modification was indicated. The pencil lines show my version of the correction required:



......and here's the finished version:





   At this point I commenced modification of the Mastercaster's Resin components for the cockpit module removing the internal bracing wires which will be replaced by proper rigged versions. The top is untouched, the bottom is partially completed:



.....and last the floor portion with the exhaust channel molded on it was modified to make it fit without interfering with the scratch built version for the exterior.



....and with the channel removed. The wire cross braces on the floor portion were left untouched as they are covered by the seat and frames once installed.



     These last components have since been given a coat of light wood base acrylic and will receive oil wood grain tomorrow.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2016, 07:54:45 AM »
More nice progress there Lance - you are giving me a right real dose of withdrawal symptoms  ;)

I've not seen or used Mastercaster products before - how are you finding them as those panels appear to be quite 'heavy' on the details. Or is that just the way they have photographed - digi pics do show up the slightest anomaly that's for sure.

Looking forwards to seeing this come together - I promised myself a 'silver one' when doing my last - so will watch your build with interest.

Regards - Tug

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2016, 09:02:39 AM »
Tug,
     The Resin parts are very rough; if you award the Taurus or Aviattic Resin products a score of 10 on a scale of 10 as I would then these would rate a 4 or at most a 5. Admittedly this is one set and one modeller's assessment however others have expressed disappointment in the product as well. I'm going to see how some shading and highlighting work out; should that turn out to be a "bust" I'll be removing some of the details and adding some scratch built ones to the basic parts. It's a slow go either way........ :-\
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2016, 05:34:06 PM »
Lance,
you are now on a point, were the standard modeler stops and the advanced modeler starts his real work.
I know in the end it will turn out as an other gem.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2016, 06:46:53 PM »
Thanks for the info Lance, it will be interesting to see if painting improves the effect of the detail.

As a user of several of the 'Aires' detail up parts in the past I have to confess they do look as you describe  :( Still,as Manni says this is where the real enjoyment of modelling begins so good luck with the rest of the build, I'm sure you will turn it into yet another Lance 'Gem'  ;)

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2016, 11:27:03 PM »
Manni and Tug,
    Thanks for the encouraging comments, I'm tied up with real world issues for a few days and hope to get at this again real soon. It will be interesting to see how the painting and shading exercise works out; I suspect there will be a bit of modification and scratched additions required to bring this stuff "up to snuff"! :-\ :o
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2016, 09:11:27 PM »
Your corrections are looking spot on Lance. No surprise there !
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2016, 11:09:57 PM »
Thanks for looking Rick, and for the comment! It's certainly a "work in progress" Build at this point. ???
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2016, 03:23:43 AM »
Hi Lance:

I like your stitching work.  It really enhances that part of the fuselage.  I think the molded on stitching is a nice touch by Hobby Craft, but; your "real" stitching certainly adds interest.  The engine work is up to your usual standards as well.  It's amazing what a little extra effort does to the engine.  I started following your  build as I was curious to see what you thought of the Master Casters interior.   I would never have thought to cut out the exhaust channel.  Nicely done.  Hard to believe it's been almost a year since CAPCON and we saw that model with the nice metal finish.
I am looking forward to your next update, as I have this kit and will do it at "sometime."
Until that time
Mark

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2016, 04:29:25 AM »
Thanks Gunny, nice to see you in print again! I twigged on the exhaust channel through Greg's (GAJouette) Build Log, and I think it was Borsos that provided a link to a good illustration of how it all comes together, the usual and much appreciated assistance of fellow modellers here!
I know you'll be pretty tied up until you move into that new home in the desert; we need to shame Chris into entering the Group Build with that hunk of iron he's working on!
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2016, 04:55:48 PM »
Great work so far. Just pointing out all the things I didn't do is very educational. Re the Mastercaster kit I was very disappointed with it and had to sand the walls down to stop them being obtrusive amongst so other mods but as they mostly won't be seen in the end I wasn't too fussed. As has been mentioned I doubt I'd give them more than 5/10 compared with other resin AM add ons I've used.
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