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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2015, 02:06:25 PM »
Hello Sasho!!!

Looking forward for you build!!! So far it looks brilliant!!! :)

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2015, 07:33:53 PM »
Guys, thank you very much for the so many and so nice comments, they are appreciated! I'm detailing the cockpit, adding lines, etc. I still haven't decided how deep should I dive into the detailing trap....while I want to recreate every detail, I also want to finish the build in few months and not few years :)

Sasho - I really love the colour effect you have on your wood - can you tell us what paint/varnish colours you used? It certainly has an extremely realistic look to it and I'd love to try to emulate it....

@Tug and zavod44: nothing fancy regarding my woodgraining technique, it is the standard Oils over acrylics, a bit tweaked to my personal preferences. Yesterday I just started to paint the inside of the nascelle, so I will take pictures that will be posted with my next update. I can strongly reccomend to check Bertl's builds where he explained the same technique with a way better result than I will ever achieve....and many others that I absolutely shamelessly have stolen, used and abused :)



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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2015, 08:46:36 PM »
Thanks for the response Sasho - it wasn't so much the technique you'd used as I had guessed you'd used oil over acrylics but what attracted my attention was that lovely honey yellow colour. What I'd really like to know if you wouldn't mind revealing all is what your specific colours were both in the acrylic undercoat and the oil overlay. The effect you have is very reminiscent of boxwood and looks extremely effective and I'm certainly going to try to achieve the same effect on my next model. I look forwards to your next pics - perhaps you wouldn't mind elaborating a little on your choice of colours as well.

In the meantime I shall do as you suggest as well

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2015, 05:31:54 AM »
Ooooooh.... oil paints, great I'll get started then......Thanks....

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2015, 06:14:44 PM »
as I said, nothing fancy about the technique itself, it is the usual oils over acrylics. The nest pictures shows the paints - the first one is for the acrylic underlayer, on the Fe.2b I used mainly Gunze Radome. The second one is the oils with the accelerator and the third one is for the mix that seals them. For this I use 1:1:2 clear Yellow:clear:orange:clear. This makes the mix a bit more transparant and provides better control of teh final color.
If you have more questionss let me know:)





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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2015, 09:10:34 AM »
Thanks for that Sasho, I'll top up on what Tamiya I have at Telford in a couple of weeks plus the Gunze stuff. After an ebay win tonight I now have a lot of wood to do  ;)

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2015, 07:23:46 PM »
A small updat efrom me, recently I have been travelling and there was not much time for working on the model, but I was able to do some things. First I painted the inside of the nascelle, finish the instrumental panel and run the cables inside, I started working on the engine (still on very early stage) and now I'm wondering how much time I want to spend on it. I was goingt o use HGW's seatbelts, but the are way smaller than the original ones and from pictures they seem smaller than they have to be - more like 1:48 scale, so I decided to go with the original WnW PE and paint them. The result and a comparison picture bellow. The next step is going to be to paint the wings and the tail, while working on the engine, so I can attach them immidiately after I close the nascelle. Aviattic's Phelon&Moore bike is also nearly ready and will be addition to the Fe.2b :)
Here are some pictures.
Any questions, comments or constructive criticism are most welcome!

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2015, 02:38:12 AM »
Beautiful work, Sasho! I'd like to see more photos of the Aviattic bike. It looks like you've done a great job with it!

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2015, 11:48:29 AM »
Looking great!

How do you prevent the paint from cracking when you manipulate the seatbelts in to position? I had so much problems with that that I bent mine first then painted.

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2015, 06:04:08 PM »
Looking great!

How do you prevent the paint from cracking when you manipulate the seatbelts in to position? I had so much problems with that that I bent mine first then painted.

Sorry to interrupt, but I think the problem is probably with paint layer thickness. I have bent airbrushed PE seat belts many times and never had issues. Two more things - I use acrylic paints and I do not bend sharply.
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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2015, 01:40:55 AM »
Looking great!

How do you prevent the paint from cracking when you manipulate the seatbelts in to position? I had so much problems with that that I bent mine first then painted.

Sorry to interrupt, but I think the problem is probably with paint layer thickness. I have bent airbrushed PE seat belts many times and never had issues. Two more things - I use acrylic paints and I do not bend sharply.

Probably what Przemol says is righht. I can't remember of any case with the paint peeling from the PE, I use acrylics and I airbrush them. But before this I add Mr. Metal Primer, it is completely clear and once dry practically invisible.

Beautiful work, Sasho! I'd like to see more photos of the Aviattic bike. It looks like you've done a great job with it!

George

George, I started working on teh Aviattic's bike some time ago and the link is here. The initial idea was the other topic to have both the Fe.2b and P&M bike's build logs, but then I forgot and opened a new topic. Maybe Des, can merge them, but I don't really think that it si mandatory :)

Lately I started doing some test fitting of the interior and the nascelle and the engine, some detailing in the cockpit and the observer's place. Nothing major, just small details here and there. The crew's area is quite visible, so it is good to be a bit busier.







I also started working on the engine . Unfortunately for me, this a/c was fitted with the 120hp version of the Beardmnore engine, unlike the Vintage Aviator's replica, that have the 160hp version, which means that pictures and data are way more scarce for 120hp. Still if anyone decide to detail it, here is a usefull link

I have the aviattic's set of priming cups for beardmore engine, but I'm not sure if they should be used on the 120hp version or not? If someone can help I will be gratefull!and here are the pictures of my attempt at detailing so far. Ofcourse the work is still quite early and there are many more things to be added, but I'm working on it.











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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2015, 03:24:10 AM »
Brilliant work on the interior, Sasho, and that motorbike looks awesome!  The engine is coming together beautifully, as well.
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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2015, 03:36:32 AM »
Hi Sasho - that's excellent progress and looking really great  :)

I have today found two booklets long forgotten and squirrelled away - one is 'Air Board Technical Notes' on WW1 engines which, having just checked for you, contains info on the 120 hp Beardmore. Though there's is not a great deal of external pictorial info I will scan the pages for you if you don't already have them. You'll have to wait until next week though as I'm getting ready for the trek to Telford tomorrow morning. I'll try to keep it in mind to do it when I get back but should I forget (easy these days  ::)) just give me a prod!

Mine (FE2b) arrived today  :)

Regards - Tug

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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2015, 08:35:51 AM »
Sasho, please tell me what you are using to thin the Mr. Metal Primer? I was told to use white spirits and did so...and ended up with a cup full of what looked a lot like, well, snot.

This build is looking great! Really coming together!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Re: Fe.2b early 6341 "Zanzibar" No1- 1/32 WnW
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2015, 08:58:29 AM »
Outstanding work on the interior and engine! Your usual neat and clean work! I am looking forward to your progress!
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