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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2015, 07:51:07 AM »
Hi James

I just went right through this thread for the first time and congratulate you on such a superb build so far. I quite enjoy masking but you have taken it to an exceptional level with simply stunning results. I shall follow your future posts with a truly inspired interest.

regards - Tug

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2015, 06:06:23 AM »
Quite right to be proud of the young man. Way to go :) And the paint job is stunning. Thouroughly enjoying watching this thread.
James

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2015, 11:50:03 AM »
Thank you everyone for the very kind comments - I'm learning so much and sometimes I have to sit there and scratch my head for a while....that includes the model kits!

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2015, 12:53:11 PM »
Fantastic progress James, this is turning into a real gem of a model.

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2015, 01:33:24 AM »
Very great progress James.
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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #110 on: November 09, 2015, 10:33:34 AM »
Well I managed to get a little time at the bench this weekend between teacher training courses and my sons football (soccer) matches.

So after getting all the preshading done I laid the rib tapes using Aviattic WW1 German/ Austro-Hungarian Linen (light) on White paper.

I had to use Mr. Mark Setter as the 1mm strips would pull up on the concave underside of the wing as they dried.





Once dried I trimmed the edges and then did the leading and trailing edges of the wings as well as the wing tips. For this I used a combination of Mr. Mark Softer



Once everything was dried and had set I then applied a coat of Tamiya Clear to really lock things down - I used a 1:3 ratio of Varnish to Tamiya thinner.

Previously to all this I had already used masking tape to make templates of the linen sections for the wings. I decided on one complete section for the whole wing rather than several as I've now got rather used to the feel of these great decals and felt confident that they would lay perfectly on my wings.



This time I didn't use any fixing solution - these went straight down on to the wings and then the water was pushed out using a damp piece of wadded up lint free tissue and then a little heat from a hair dryer to make sure they were fully bedded down on the wings.

After this another coat of Tamiya Clear was applied and they were left to dry and ready for the model decals.







One of the things I love about the Aviattic decals is the impurity of the colouring, there are slight variation across the sheets that you only see on very close inspection and what I feel gives them that very realistic feel to them as in reality the bleaching process would not be identical through out and some areas of the cloth might not be saturated or over saturated with the bleach.



All in all I'm very happy with the progress I got in the such short period of time yesterday, oh and yes I have finally managed to create a more fresh looking finish to my model than the typical used and abused look :D Although I think a little weathering is required once I've finished all the flight surfaces!

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2015, 04:59:06 PM »
Most impressive. As I understand it, you laid rib tape decals first, and as a second step, applied the large decal on top?

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2015, 05:06:52 PM »
Yes that is correct. The reason why is to protect the strips and stop them from lifting off. They also create more depth. Even if you zoom in on the image taken with the macro lens you would assume the ribs are laid over the top of the larger linen decal.

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2015, 09:03:03 PM »
Beautiful work on the wings, James! 

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2015, 10:10:02 PM »
James,
You have achieved outstanding results with your pre shading and the Aviattic linen decals! Your Roland is really looking fantastic!
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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2015, 11:51:39 AM »
James,
You have achieved outstanding results with your pre shading and the Aviattic linen decals! Your Roland is really looking fantastic!
RAGIII

Thank you sir, I really need to press on with the build though.... need to get it finished!

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2015, 12:27:16 PM »
Hi, James,

We need to start referring to you as Old Faithful, for, as usual, you have given us with a thorough explanation of your techniques, couched in a splendidly polished presentation. They're always a delight to view.

The Aviattic decals look superb and I am sure Richard is thrilled with the level to which you have taken his amazing products. The very artistic effects you have been able to achieve with them are quite something.

I'm always interested in learning and would appreciate it if you could explain what exactly are the 1/1 effects of highlights, shadows, opacity, translucency, etc., you are attempting to replicate in scale? If you are working from period photos, I would appreciate your sharing them with us, as I'm trying to gather as much documentary evidence as I can on the effects of light on CDL.

Keep up the good work...Gambatte kudasai!

Ja mata,
Michael

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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2015, 04:14:16 PM »
Hi, James,

We need to start referring to you as Old Faithful, for, as usual, you have given us with a thorough explanation of your techniques, couched in a splendidly polished presentation. They're always a delight to view.

The Aviattic decals look superb and I am sure Richard is thrilled with the level to which you have taken his amazing products. The very artistic effects you have been able to achieve with them are quite something.

I'm always interested in learning and would appreciate it if you could explain what exactly are the 1/1 effects of highlights, shadows, opacity, translucency, etc., you are attempting to replicate in scale? If you are working from period photos, I would appreciate your sharing them with us, as I'm trying to gather as much documentary evidence as I can on the effects of light on CDL.

Keep up the good work...Gambatte kudasai!

Ja mata,
Michael

Many thanks for the kind words Michael,

For reference I have been using the Windsock dataprofiles and the Fight Aircraft of Roland in WWI as there is a huge collection of images of the Rolland C.II's that clearly show the translucent effect of wings, even on the darkly coloured camouflaged aircraft the ribs are clearly visible under the fabric.

In this image the wings show a very beautiful example of diffused light and the shadows it casts




In this image you can see the same effect on the Tailplane - same aircraft different angle and the lighting effect changes



Also I have a perfect example of how light and shadow works through tightly laid fabric over wooden structures right here in my house - We call the Shoji. :D The light is defused but you still get the darker areas on the corners and the light is more rounded rather than casting sharp lines and that is what I have been replicating.

When I get home I post a picture of my model in the same position next to the pictures above so you can see a comparison.


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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2015, 06:28:15 PM »
Spectacular shading!

And congratulations to the young soccer player and his dad!
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Re: Wingnut Wings 1:32 Roland C.IIa (Early) Feldflieger-Abteilung (A)292b
« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2015, 09:32:23 AM »
Ok as promised, the effect I was going for was very similar to what is seen in the photo on the left - a little more exaggerated as the final position of the model will be different and needed to replicate the light source coming from a different angle.