Author Topic: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker  (Read 30289 times)

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #105 on: September 04, 2015, 07:44:18 AM »
    Thanks Chris, I don't think I'm much ahead of you, presently I'm labouring away at the post shading which you've completed on yours already. I'm trying pastel pencils vs. the usual dry chalk pastels, and it's going very slowly. (and as you mentioned as well earlier, "riblets" are not my forte!)
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2015, 06:20:25 AM »
   Here's another quick update before I get too far along. Things are starting to happen a little quicker and final assembly is getting close. At closing of the previous update I mentioned that I'd be starting the post shading, and using pastel pencils for the first time. I started with the lower surfaces and, having noticed in the majority of photos that the rib outlines or shadows appear darker then the surrounding fabric when the upper surface is done in PC10, I used a darker shade of light brown then the fabric. I'm quite happy with these results.





   For the top surfaces of the wings I used a dark grey vs. the black I have used in the past and worked opposite to the lower surface technique, that is either side of the ribs to have them appear lighter then the surrounding fabric. I found the pencil method harder to control then the chalk pastels I've used in the past and am not exactly ecstatic with the results.



   At this point I decided to revert back to my old method using Chalk Pastels for the fuselage highlighting.







    The Model has since been sealed with an airbrush coat of Vallejo Acrylic Satin, and a slightly glossier mix sprayed on the metal cowlings to provide a bit of contrast.



    I'm much happier with the Chalk results on the fuselage. Last, the aileron pulley inspection ports were painted and are ready for closing up with the clear windows. Once they are painted and installed it's "time to strut".
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Lance
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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2015, 06:30:21 AM »
Exellent work and painting, Lance.
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Martin

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2015, 06:39:25 AM »
I think she's looking really good Lance. In particular, your shading of the fuselage. It looks absolutely superb! By the way, what exactly are pastel pencils? Personally, while it might not pass your critical eye, I certainly like what you've done with the underside of the wings with them. I think I'll have to hunt them up so give out with where you got them too.  ;D  Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next update.

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2015, 07:06:31 AM »
Gorgeous painting and shading, Lance!  Destined for glory, just like the original.  ;)
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Bud
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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2015, 07:32:35 AM »
You have done a superb job with the shading Lance especially on the fuselage, I will have to give the chalk a go.

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2015, 08:30:31 AM »
That looks great Lance!

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2015, 08:36:21 AM »
Great job on the shading, Lance! It's nice to see that you're not afraid of the wrap-under thingie on the wings, unlike yours truly! :-[

George

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2015, 10:25:12 AM »
Really nice work so far Lance .  :)




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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2015, 12:06:28 PM »
I think she's looking really good Lance. In particular, your shading of the fuselage. It looks absolutely superb! By the way, what exactly are pastel pencils? Personally, while it might not pass your critical eye, I certainly like what you've done with the underside of the wings with them. I think I'll have to hunt them up so give out with where you got them too.  ;D  Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next update.

Cheers,

Chris

Chris,
   I believe they are an "oil" pastel, as opposed to a chalk, or dry pastel. read expensive coloured pencil. I get them at the local paint store where they have a reasonable Artists Supply section. They are a "Stabilo" Brand product at about $2 per pencil, at least when Oil was fetching $100 plus per barrel!





   I'd use them again for the CDL treatment but I'm not happy with their application to the upper surfaces. The Chalk Pastels I really prefer are found at Staples, basically a Kid's Beginner's Set, for $5-6. I "powder" them and mix colours on a small piece of sand paper, "dust" them on, and then brush them into a flat overcoat. If too heavy a little cleaning off with a damp paper towel does the trick, masking your unshaded areas being the key.



  Hope this helps, a beer in Ottawa end month will get you all the info and technique you'll ever need!!
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #115 on: September 08, 2015, 12:11:11 PM »
Bud, Des, Bo, George and Terri,
Many Thanks for your wonderful comments and encouragements. As always most motivating and very much appreciated!
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #116 on: September 08, 2015, 01:05:05 PM »
Lance,
Do you use any kind of clear coat or fixative over the pastels to ensure they don't smear or wear off? Can you paint over them afterwards or do you apply the chalks as the final step?

Thanks,
George

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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #117 on: September 08, 2015, 02:24:46 PM »
Extremely Impressive post shading on both Methods! I really like the upper wing in spite of your misgivings!
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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #118 on: September 08, 2015, 04:00:42 PM »
Your method of pastel shading is very effective, yet still subtle enough for a convincing effect.

Well done.
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Re: Wingnut Wings Sopwith Snipe - Major W. Barker
« Reply #119 on: September 08, 2015, 09:49:33 PM »
Lance,
Do you use any kind of clear coat or fixative over the pastels to ensure they don't smear or wear off? Can you paint over them afterwards or do you apply the chalks as the final step?

Thanks,
George

George,
   I apply a light final coat of clear by airbrush, in this case Vallejo Polyurethane Satin Varnish thinned with approx. 40% of their matching "Airbrush Thinner". The only thing I'll add after that is oil stains, etc. For that I'll use a different medium, in this case thinned Oils applied like "washes" where desired.
Cheers,
Lance