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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #135 on: January 20, 2015, 01:49:34 PM »
Your spiders are going to be busy .....looking really sharp so far Lance . Love your work on the engine  :)





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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #136 on: January 20, 2015, 01:54:27 PM »
Excellent progress Lance!  Even with all that rigging, I can see another
gem from you coming.  Great work, my friend. :)

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #137 on: January 20, 2015, 06:38:11 PM »
So, following the rigging instructions from BB's webpage isn't sufficient to succeed? Now i am afraid again of that DH2's rigging.

Merde.

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #138 on: January 20, 2015, 07:53:18 PM »
Great to see the top wing on Lance, you have now reached the best part of the entire build, the rigging  :) :) ;)

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #139 on: January 20, 2015, 08:52:40 PM »
Fine progress, Lance. And you too old??? No way!

BTW, I am always deliberating if I should attach the rigging lines before top wing or not. And usually I prefer to leave them for later, especially in 32nd scale. I have always a feeling that I will get them so much tangled among themselves and with the struts plus I am afraid they will interfere with the glue in the strut sockets... I see you were braver then me.  ;)
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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #140 on: January 20, 2015, 09:14:48 PM »
. . . as the man said in the movie, "I'm really getting too old for this ........."! ;)

I couldn't disagree more my friend. The challenges presented here are what keeps you young. The rigging appears to be a daunting task, and confusing to say the least, but I have full confidence in your abilities. You'll have this spider's web sewn up in no time flat. Of that, I'm certain!

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #141 on: January 20, 2015, 09:22:20 PM »
So, following the rigging instructions from BB's webpage isn't sufficient to succeed? Now i am afraid again of that DH2's rigging.

Merde.

Stefan  :(

In isolation it's the best guide out there, but I found a combination of guides helpful to ensure a successful build. I would also add Eduards instruction guides found on their site to list list of useful aides.

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #142 on: January 20, 2015, 09:35:14 PM »
I remember two issues with DH.2 rigging, that no source, including the photos available, could solve in a unique way.

One is the presence or absence of cabane rigging lines between the the front struts.
The second one is how the cables running diagonally (in the plan view) from the top wing to the rear corner of the outriggers (where they connect to the horizontal stabiliser) interfere with the outriggers - are they two span and have the connection points over the inter-outrigger strut, or are they continuous?

As for the first question, on the base of several photos I decided that some a/c had those cables, others not.
And the second one is still a mystery for me. Any thoughts on it?
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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #143 on: January 20, 2015, 09:46:36 PM »
Hi Lance, you are continuing to do a great job young man! 110 tb amazing! If this is awaiting me then I am really scared and frightened. Is this the easiest way to mount the upper wing? Installing the cabane struts and the inner wing struts? If so I will certainly try this on the next "dubble-strutted" a/c. You are doing just great my friend!

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #144 on: January 20, 2015, 10:25:40 PM »
I have always wanted to build a DH-2. But after seeing that photo with the 'thousands' of wires coming off of it in a giant and confusing tangle I may have changed my mind!!
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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #145 on: January 21, 2015, 01:04:19 AM »
The PC 10 and CDL look great! Your build has taken shape now, Literally! Like some of the others I too plan a DH2 build someday. I must admit to being intimidated by the rigging. I am looking forward to seeing your process unfold!
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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #146 on: January 21, 2015, 02:27:34 AM »
   First and foremost Thank You all for your generous comments and encouragements, they are very much appreciated.
   For those expressing reservations about the challenge of rigging this beast don't worry, be happy! My attempts to inject a little self directed humour into some of my comments often gives the impression of things being much worse then they really are....... I'm enjoying this challenge and it is quite "doable", however slow and easy is definitely required in the approach.  :)
    Prez, I agree with your comments; the cross braces on the front cabanes are on some diagrams, not on others, and the rears are a bit of a mystery as well. I concluded, after going through every photo I could find, that some aircraft definitely had them both, some none, some only front and some only back! I elected to install them all. As for the lines from the upper wing to the horizontal stab junctions I'm not there yet but I did note exactly what you described on the Instruction Guide Rigging Diagram. (One line or two each??); also that their attachment location specifics are very vague. I must look carefully at the other references.........
    GCN, I agree that the tutorial on Bob's site is the best single reference however the diagrams are very vague concerning the termination points of some of the wires and a photo search is required to verify them.
    Patrick, the method of mounting the upper wing on the cabanes first is the one I find easiest. If a "two bay" design such as this or the Brisfit I've found it more or less necessary to have the inner bay main struts installed as well, then the outers can be carefully "popped' in. I also find it easier to adjust the alignment of the upper wing laterally with the lower when working with fewer glued struts.
    I have roughly 2/3 of the wing rigging now completed, hope to finish up today. I'll get a few photos posted once that's done before I start on the "Gitter Rumph".
   
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #147 on: January 21, 2015, 02:29:54 AM »
Lance that is very great.
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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #148 on: January 21, 2015, 04:09:04 AM »
   Prez, I forgot to address your comments on the glue from the strut attachments interfering with the eyelets and the rigging potential for tangles. The CA did foul a couple of eyelets causing some very awkward drilling to clean several out and I had to re-drill and replace one already. I still prefer that to working the entire task between the wings though. As for the tangles, yes, a definite challenge. I use little tabs of Tamiya Tape to group pairs etc. together but things still get all tangled together anyway. The secret is to untangle and move any that are in the way before working on a particular line and so on.
   As with any part of a build, there is no one foolproof method of doing anything!
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Lance

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Re: WNW AMC DH2 24 Sqn. Major Lanoe Hawker VC
« Reply #149 on: January 21, 2015, 04:25:41 AM »
Found this on the Wingnut Wings site. It appears to me that the wing bracing cable, discussed above, attaches to the tail boom at the vertical strut with a turnbuckle (which makes sense — a shorter, adjustable run would provide more support). That same strut has, I think, yet another turnbuckle and wire run to the end of the tail boom next to the horizontal stabilizer.



Found another which seems to support my theory:

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