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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2015, 10:29:42 PM »
Nice to see the cockpit done as it should be! Superb
work, Chris...excellent job, my friend. :D

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2015, 08:57:17 AM »
Thank you very much Bud, Guy, Stefan & Ernie, as I sincerely appreciate your comments.

I have closed up the fuselage and am in the midst of my dreaded fill-sand-fill-sand-∞ cycle.  My least favorite part of every build.  In addition to the dorsal seam, my chosen aircraft has the early style extended fabric fuselage, which means I have two additional seams to fill and hide.  I'll admit that those gaps were larger than I would have liked, which has me a bit concerned about potential issues down the line.  I'll feel significantly more comfortable once the upper wing is mounted (hopefully successfully).

Thanks again for the kind words, guys; hopefully they aren't premature!

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2015, 04:39:37 AM »
Wonderful work to both cockpit and engine.
Martin

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2015, 11:24:14 AM »
Michael, you are way too kind!  I think I have the seams relatively tamed (foamed last words), but am concerned that the larger-than expected gap between the panels may be indicative of some improper internal alignment, and a harbinger of pain to come when trying to fit the wings.  Fingers crossed...

Martin, thank you once again for your generous comments; I am ever appreciative.

As I mentioned, I am close to being done with my foray into filling & sanding.  I have the internal goodies masked off, and hope to be spraying paint in the near future.  Pictures to follow.

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2015, 01:46:09 PM »
That is really stunning work!  Beautifully done.

Drew

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2015, 02:24:34 PM »
Those forward fabric extensions are 'gappy' - in fact they should have about 0.3mm gap to the main fuselage if fitted 'correctly'. I filled mine with superglue. You may want to also remove the detail on the outside of the forward frame members so that you can ensure that they sit in exactly the same plane as the fuselage - even the slightest twist makes for some difficult sanding around the fuselage details.

That is comforting to hear, Justin, as that is in line with my experience (give or take); many thanks.  I stretched some sprue and jammed it into the gaps with Tamiya cement which did most of the serious filling.  I did experience the twist induced sanding challenges (because that's just how I do things), but it is what it is.  The access hatches are now a little less crisp than they were, and I've lost the little triangle details at the wing root.  I may still try to replace them with something home-brewed. 

Thank you very much for the nice comment, Drew.  I appreciate your checking in.

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2015, 03:03:33 PM »
Justin, thanks for the suggestion.  I wound up using a couple of small pieces I cut from .13 mm Evergreen.  They're not perfect, but they're tiny, and they're close enough.

Having finished my fill & sand purgatory, I was able to finally start spraying paint today.  I started with a base of black Mr. Finishing Surfacer as a primer.  I masked off the framing prior to the initial coat, and that went over the exposed areas with a second thin coat in attempt to leave some subtle hint of structure:



I think I'd have been happier just putting down the primer base, and then adding detail with regular paint as the thicker Mr. Surfacer left slight edges where the tape had been.  Either way, the next step was a couple hours of masking stripes.  Aside from the challenge (for me at least) of all of those parallel lines, the decals line up with the stripes in a particular way, so I had to measure every gap as precisely as I could.  Additionally, rather than spray the entire fuselage white, and the mask for the black, I decided to mask the black areas, spray the white, and re-mask to spare the black in an attempt to minimize the layers of paint.  For both, I sprayed a loose & mottled undercoat  followed by a thin topcoat in the final color.  For the white stripes, the undercoat was deck tan, and the final coat was Gunze Off-White, and for the black, the under coat was a mix of Tamiya Nato Black & RLM Gray, which was followed by a final coat of Nato Black:





By and large, the masking worked well, and there are only a few spots needing touch up (one can be seen on the dorsal surface above).  I knew as I was painting that the high contrast of the black and white stripes would flatten out the subtle variations in tone that I tried to achieve, but I still overdid the top coats; what looks downright patchy when the tape hides the contrasting stripes looks perfectly monotonous when the masking is removed.  Must learn to override what my eyes are telling me in those situations.

Thanks for checking in,

Chris

 

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2015, 08:03:22 PM »
Terrific work on the stripes! Nothing Monotonous about them to me! Black and white stripes seem to have an effect on the eye that just makes them POP! Lovely!
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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2015, 09:16:29 PM »
It looks great your painting.
Martin

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2015, 02:13:16 AM »
Thank you Rick and Martin, I appreciate the comments.

Rick, the skill with which you executed your scheme's diagonal stripes was certainly made clear to me after my day of masking and painting (not that it wasn't already).  Maintaining the proper angle and spacing over that many lines had to be much harder than my relatively simple pattern.  Well done. 

Just to be clear, I don't think the overall pattern is monotonous, but rather that the high contrast between the blacks and whites makes it very hard for the brain to recognize the relatively subtle contrast within the black tones, and within the white tones.  What was easily discernible within the white paint with the black stripes covered disappears when the full pattern is revealed, and vice versa.

Regardless, I love the stripes, and am thankful that the Luftstreitkräfte gave us such fantastic liveries.

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2015, 06:20:47 AM »
Fuselage crosses painted:





Thanks for checking in,

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2015, 10:02:18 AM »
Very nice work on painting the fuselage cross! By the way I can see some tonal differences in the black stripes in your latest photos so you have succeeded with your original intent!
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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2015, 06:39:36 AM »
Thanks Rick!

Shaking some tail feathers:






After taping the rudder's internal structure, I sprayed some thin dark gray, and then went over it with Gunze Off White.  I made a paper template for the cross, placed it on the rudder and then placed the mask around it.  I am now trying to determine if I have the nerve to paint the wing's crosses as well, as they are slightly more complicated due to the white borders and the registration that they imply. 

That's all for now,

Chris

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2015, 09:47:58 AM »
Chris it is very nice.
Martin

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Re: WnW Fokker D.VII F (501/18 "Red W")
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2015, 06:31:13 PM »
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I am now trying to determine if I have the nerve to paint the wing's crosses as well, as they are slightly more complicated due to the white borders and the registration that they imply. 

You better have the nerves to do. Using your own paint for the fuselage/rudder crosses will show on the upper wings, as the decal's black will be different. If you want to skip some masking, you should use decals on the lower wings only, as they won't be seen so easily.

Stefan