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Offline IFF1418

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Re: First trials
« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2013, 03:10:52 PM »
Thank you Steve and Gregory!
Indeed the most important thing is the joy of doing it. At the same time it helps to remember that terrible period that all those men from all over the world had to go trough. It should always be remembered that a whole generation was blown away. I'm glad to be a part of all you people on this wonderfull forum!
I think I will try now to build the engine with the modifications Des applied. I will see where that is going to lead me.

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Patrick

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Re: First trials
« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2013, 06:27:10 PM »
Just catching up on your build Patrick and it's starting to come together nicely and looking great

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Re: First trials
« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2013, 08:02:57 PM »
Thank you Michael!
Looked up your region. Wonderfull place to live!

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Patrick

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Re: First trials
« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2013, 08:17:47 PM »
well as it's a bank holiday here the rain is sheeting down  ;D

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Re: First trials
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2013, 08:37:26 AM »
Hello Patrick:

Now that you have the fuselage buttoned up, the worst is actually behind you.  Carefully plan your next steps.  Ensure you rig the upper wing prior to fixing.  I would recommend doing the tail surfaces first before moving on to the wings.  Leave the landing gear on for last after you have rigged the model.  The landing gear is the anchor points for the front two sets of flying wires.  Once everything else is rigged, this is a piece of cake.

Good Luck

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Re: First trials
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2013, 08:41:37 AM »
hello, i just for the first time today saw your post. to me looks good so far especially for your first ww1 aircraft. if i had seen this earlier i would give advice to not use tamiya paints to hand brush. unless you add retarder they do not work well. the problem is tamiya is not a true acrylic. its base is a hybrid and for some reason unless the paint is completely cured(perhaps a week or more) the fresh paint will melt the earlier layer slightly. this is ok if you use tamiya with airbrush. but when you use a brush the strokes pull up the earlier coat slightly which gave you your mixing effect. you can solve this by using a spray can clear or try different paints. i have found good results with pollyscale,model master. and vallejo acrylic paints. the best thing to do in my opinion is to inly use tamiya to airbrush but there have been some guys who can make wonderful things happen with tamiya and brush, it is just harder. keep up the great work i enjoyed your progress.

Offline IFF1418

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Re: First trials
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2013, 03:58:00 PM »
Thank you Mark and Albatros1234!

Mark, your log is still next to me as is the one of Des. For the rigging I think I will order the Windsock Datafile of the plane. Don't you think this would be a good idea. I hardly know how to begin with it. For the moment I will be doing the small painting jobs like the inspection panels, Vickers Gun a.s.o. The engine I will finally do OOB. I think a more sofisticated one will be for my next model.

Albatros, the problem is that I acquired all my painting material before i discovered this wonderfull forum and I have quite a lot of Tamiya acryl paint. So maybe the best thing to do is to buy (soon it will be father's day) an airbrush system for the larger parts. However I will have to learn this airbrush technique too. I acquired a smaller (1:48)  and cheaper model (Spad XIII)  to exercise. No hurry!

The advices of you all are very valuable to me!

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Patrick

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Re: First trials
« Reply #52 on: May 28, 2013, 07:41:40 PM »
Your model is coming along beautifully Patrick, and Mark has offered you some very sound advice. The rigging on the Se.5a looks daunting but it is not as difficult as first appears. There is quite a large space between top and bottom wings so rigging is made a lot easier, also the cabane struts stand fairly high above the fuselage so again this helps in the rigging process. When I build a model I always do a google search on the particular aeroplane, I gather as many photos as possible especially of the cockpit interior and the rigging. I like to get close-up photos of all the rigging connection points with the struts and wing also the rigging lines which connect to the fuselage. I hope you are enjoying the build so far.

Have a look here Patrick -

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=se5a+pictures&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7nukUdiYGaafiAfI_oCYCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=967

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=1057.0

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=930.0

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=855.0

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Offline IFF1418

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Re: First trials
« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2013, 09:55:56 PM »
Thank you so much Des. Some of them I've seen before, but these on the forum not all. Very good pictures. It certainly is a very pleasant thing to do Des, and all the people on the forum are very kind and helpfull. I have a whole lot to catch-up, and my knowledge of airplanes isn't very high I must say. Still very glad I landed on this forum. So thank you again Des.

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Patrick

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Re: First trials
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2013, 03:40:17 AM »
Hi all,

This is a small update. The inspection panels are painted. Maybe I had better waited for the painting of the wings, but I will mask them before. The engine is about finished too. Thank you for looking at the photo's.

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Patrick











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Re: First trials
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2013, 07:38:27 AM »
  Patrick,
She's coming along just beautifully my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Re: First trials
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2013, 08:00:33 AM »
Patrick,
Comeing along nicely! Keep plugging away this one will be finished in no time now!
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Re: First trials
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2013, 11:58:06 AM »
Keep going. Youre doing a nice job on it and you must be enjoying each success!!

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Re: First trials
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2013, 06:13:37 PM »
Thank you so much Gregory, Rick and Steve, your ecouragements are so valuable to me. I continue to learn from the errors I make. I'm sad that I waited till now to start such a marvellous hobby and wasted a lot of time, and getting to know such friendly people from all over the world.

Very kind regards

Patrick

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Re: First trials
« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2013, 12:15:54 AM »
Hi all,

There is a little confusion about the numbers of the ailerons (lower and upper wings) mentioned in the instruction gide of the SE5a of WNW. On p.9 the right-hand aileron of the lower wing is numbered B2 and on p. 12 the left-hand aileron of the upper wing is numbered B2 too. So this leaving me with part B1. As I see, the elevator holes are on the upside for the upper wings, and downside for the lower wings, so part B1 could serve for the left-hand aileron of the upper wing. Can anyone help me?

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Patrick