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Offline markleecarter

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New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« on: December 02, 2020, 02:36:03 AM »
I was just reading through Eduard's lastest 'Info' magazine, and in the intro they mention a brand new 1/48 Camel coming out in 2021. The full edition is linked below but this is the relevant quote:

At this point in time, September looks like the
release month for our new 1:48th scale Camel,
with supposed label BIGGLES & Co. It will be in
a league all its own, and nothing like the first Camel kit we did at the turn of the century. I venture to suggest that this will be the most detailed
First World War aircraft yet produced, bar none.
I understand that hardcore fans of WNW will
not be easily convinced, but still…I have stated
my prediction. We will do the work, and we will
do it extremely well.

https://www.eduard.com/out/media/InfoEduard/archive/2020/info-eduard-2020-12en.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0cL2pHEU0rsxQJHYlBYzAjl7CpWQ3fwyH48a85-pyzTEz5aafgPg8vgrg

Offline Monty

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 03:26:52 AM »
Oh, this sounds goood....

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 04:38:32 AM »
We discussed this already some weeks ago.
Yes, a new WWI aircraft kit in 1/48 is nice, but why again a Camel?
If I look at the parts of the "old tool" Eduard Camel, I see a nice model, looking much better and more modern compared to some short run kits for example. But there are hundreds of interesting types (the german types alone are 500 in the book "German Aircraft of the WWI") without a kit!
Even not for all Windsock Datafiles (around 200?) exists kits in 1/48.

Yes, the Camel is well known and they calculate, how much kits can be sold. But I still say: Chance missed.

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 06:00:18 AM »
A 1/48 kit that is beter detailed than even a WnW? that is some claim....
Yes, very glad that they are bringing out a brand new kit, like they did with the 1/72 Fokker D.VII. I saw that kit and the resin engines that go with that, very high quality as Eduard sets new standards with almost every new release.

But I am with you, why a Camel? They released some very unusual czech subject this year and they were very highly praised, not only for their quality,but most of all because they were not another spitfire/me-109/fw-109/zero ect. etc. etc.

So why mot take the leap in ww1? There are soooo many cool, widely used and inportant machines to choose from...
So, happy to see a new kit coming (don't actually have a Camel in any scale yet...) but a little sad as well

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 06:29:35 AM »
They made a claim it will be the most FWW plane ever produced and my guess on that basis they chose the Camel as it is ubiquitous and one they can, and probably hope to backup that claim with this choice. If successful maybe we'll see more subjects get released as it sounds like they are trying a much higher level of detailing and seem to be testing the waters.

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 10:52:10 AM »
Rather than question about Eduard selecting a Camel as their new flagship WW1 project , I think the WW1 hobby movement should be applauding them for investing in new tooling for 1/48th WW1 aircraft. The Camel is an obvious choice to "test" the market given it's the WW1 equivalent of a Spitfire or Bf 109.

Choosing an esoteric, little known subject may not give them a solid return on the investment. A Camel should sell well and hopefully encourage Eduard to expand it's new tool 1/48th WW1 range.

Big kudos to Eduard!

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 12:38:07 PM »
I heard of this one awhile back already and after having just built one , it is not an easy  off assemble at all and the pit could have been better thought out for doing the control lines .  the new tool kit I would like to see what they come up with when it comes out . I'm not a much of a fan of the Camel and with one still in stash and WNW one still . I will be passing on this one . I don't even want to build the ones in the stash now . However though hopefully this is the start of Eduard getting back into WW 1 subjects in 48 scale . No one else seems to be producing new kits in this scale .


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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 01:25:03 PM »
Between Eduard, Blue Max and WNW, I have at least 10 Camels, but as I AM a fan, I will be buying this one if for no other reason than to encourage Eduard to produce more WWI subjects.  I did a Blue Max/Eduard Camel Comic conversion a few years back and thoroughly enjoyed the project.  I am a bit of a masochist.
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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 03:18:54 PM »
Good news, look forward to a full range in 1/48 in time.
I guess they needed a new tool Camel to duel with the Dr1- al la Roy Brown shooting wide and short of the Baron’s crate, Cheers :D
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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2020, 05:33:14 PM »
Any new kit is great (as Dave said), but... I really do have to agree, an odd (and probably unnecessary) choice. Nothing wrong with their old camel, and unless this really is a piece of magnificence not yet beholden in plastic, then I'll probably be indifferent to buying one (yep I like to support our hobby niche but I already have several of Eduard's camels... and money is money).

If they needed something interesting to get back into WW1 then why not continue where they've treaded recently with their 1/72 Fokkers and release a new 1/72 scale Camel, or SE5a? Or if they wanted to stick to 1/48, maybe a new 1/48 Snipe, SPAD VII, Avro, or any other range of subjects?

Maybe if they got on our forum and asked us what we liked or wanted, then maybe they'd get some good input (ala Roden)?

I mean, great that they are releasing something new, but... a Camel? Especially when they already have a good one? Maybe it's just like releasing another spitfire, 109, or something. Meh.

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2020, 07:46:06 PM »
As far as I'm concerned 1/48 are yesterdays models. Now Eduard seem to want to steal WnW;s thunder so why oh why didn't they take the plunge and go for 1/32 scale

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 11:19:28 PM »
1/48 are yesterdays models.
That is untrue!
Finished models in scale 1/32 are too big for many people. I see more and more posts and messages, where modelers wants to go back to 1/48 after WNW died. That scale allows more details as 1/72 but the finished models has a fair size to be shown in glass cabinets.
There are more (biplane era) aircraft types available in 1/48 as in 1/32, in 1/72 even more.

It is like railroad models, all scales have their right to exist, if you like it or not.

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2020, 12:19:48 AM »
Hopefully they will sell well enough to encourage Eduard to venture into more WWI aircraft. Camels and Spitfires will always be popular choices for manufacturers as they are so iconic and are probably the most effective ways to get new people buying models - I know I took up modelling because I wanted to build a Spitfire and that got me hooked.

I sadly have very little time for modelling these days and have a couple of the old Eduard Camels in the stash but I will certainly buy one just to give them some encouragement. Hopefully there will be some nice aftermarket stuff too!

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2020, 12:28:05 AM »
As far as I'm concerned 1/48 are yesterdays models. Now Eduard seem to want to steal WnW;s thunder so why oh why didn't they take the plunge and go for 1/32 scale

I hope, no one at eduard‘s turns this upside down and cries out that WNW would have „stolen the WW1 theme“ from eduard. The Czechs already produced masses of great WW1 biplane kits long before they got off their sheeps in New Zealand...  ;)

Is there any better place for a modeller than watching two first rate kit producers getting into competition regarding detail and quality of their products? Why not buying both kits and being happy about the choice we have.

If WNW is still a kind of Religion, we actually need much more heresy....

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Re: New 1/48 Camel from Eduard
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 12:35:05 AM »
 I only build 1/48 scale WWI aircraft. For me it is the perfect size. 1/32nd scale planes take up too much room to display and are more expensive. 1/72nd planes are more difficult to assemble and detail. I encourage other fans of 1/48th scale to write to Eduard, Roden, Copper State Models, Special Hobby, and Karaya asking them to please produce more types of aircraft. Maybe Chorozsy Modelbud will expand their model line of 1/72nd kits to 1/48th scale if they get enough requests.
    The small amount of  sales has ended production of the fantastic Copper State Models 1/48th scale Handley Page 0-400 bomber. We need to support these WWI aircraft kit manufacturers.