Author Topic: 1:48 Eduard Albatros D.III (Read 17022 times)

smperry · « **Reply #60 on:** May 26, 2020, 07:20:40 AM »

I'm falling behind here.
Rick, Fredrik, Stephen and Richie Thank y'all so much for the support and kind words. They are appreciated more than y'all know.

This makes the second day I haven't been able to make it out to my shop, (detached 3 car garage about 75% devoted to models, 1/700 up to 41%). I've been waiting over a month for the hospital to give my Dr. a date to have these kidney stones out and that turns out to be a week from today. I am all rarin' to go out to the shop, but walking 10 yds and then sitting at the bench just isn't happening. I wouldn't wish this discomfort on anyone.

The Albie has two more hurdles. The prop and posing the ailerons. Richie has given me some good tips on prop making Off Forum and I can't wait to try them. I really like Des' paper prop method. I even have a proper scroll saw, but I would sure like to know more specifics about what kind of paper and where to get it.
Frank gave me the link to those real fine saws and I will be ordering a set of them soon. The ailerons will simply have to wait until I have the right tool and have practiced with it a bit. Fortunately I can move ahead with finishing the model, because the prop and ailerons can go on last. Hey, two hangups working out so as not to stop progress, Mark this day on the calendar.

So I will post any progress I make and will try to keep up on everyone's builds.
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RAGIII · « **Reply #61 on:** May 26, 2020, 07:38:26 AM »

I hope your Stone removal is successful Really Looking forward to more of this Albatros! If you need a prop to experiment with I think I am going to need one for Rickenbackers SPAD to be correct

RAGIII

kensar · « **Reply #62 on:** May 26, 2020, 08:44:34 AM »

I have made a few paper props. I just used a manila folder for the light shaded layers and a brown fibrous report cover for the dark layers. Nothing special. Should be able to source from an office supply store.

Alexis · « **Reply #63 on:** May 26, 2020, 01:00:18 PM »

Richie , I hope all goes well for you

Terri

smperry · « **Reply #64 on:** May 26, 2020, 04:39:56 PM »

I made it out to the shop for a little while this evening. Amazing what alcohol can do for pain, not so much for modeling skills though. I had previously cut up some strips of manila paper to use in making a paper prop. I stuffed half of them into a can of dark stain, gave them a few minutes to soak up the stain and then fished them out, wiped them off and set them to dry.

That gave me a couple hours in the recliner on a heating pad. Another stiff drink and I was back out and gluing up a blank. 2 strips of light followed by 2 of dark ending up with 2 of light on top and bottom.
I covered the wet blank with plastic wrap and clamped it between 2 pieces of steel to act as heat sinks as the CA heated up. Ten min later I pilled out a hard prop blank. So far so good.

Then I decided to spray some primer over the kit prop and blank in hopes of getting the outline. Didn't work as well as I hoped. I managed to delete that photo. Need a hard drawn line to follow with the saw and a small fan to keep the sawdust blown away will make seeing where and what I'm cutting easier.

Next the blank went to the scroll saw. That is something I will need to practice with a bit....sober :-) I ended up with a prop shape a bit fatter than the plastic kit prop. I figure that will disappear when I taper and then carve the twist into the blank.

My scroll saw operation is pretty bad and I ended up with the hole in the prop blank off center. I corrected as much as possible with a Dremel drum sander and the spinner hides the sin, well most of it anyway.

I may not use this particular piece, but I am very pleased with the way the manila paper, both stained and unstained soaked up the thin CA. I am off tomorrow to buy some manila envelopes. I noticed the scraps I had to hand were of different shades, so I will look for envelopes from different manufacturers in hopes of having a selection of shades.
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RichieW · « **Reply #65 on:** May 26, 2020, 05:14:01 PM »

Glad the good old fashioned pain relief method works for you. Hope the stone removal goes well.

Like the idea of staining the paper, I will try that. Looking promising, I find prop carving very absorbing so it may distract you from the pain a little. Think i need to find some Manila envelopes.

RAGIII · « **Reply #66 on:** May 26, 2020, 08:20:43 PM »

Your prop is coming along nicely, especially while taking Medication

I too shall get some folders and give it a go. Thanks for the inspiration!
RAGIII

lcarroll · « **Reply #67 on:** May 27, 2020, 01:31:58 AM »

sp,
Although I do my props in wood the "basics" appear very similar. I always have a "fatter" profile early in the process and, as you mention, reduce it to the desired profile when the "twist" carving is done. That provides the added bonus of having a little leeway with the twist depth should you get carried away with the carving. I just yesterday carved the prop for my Halberstadt and got it correct the first try, a real bonus! As Richie has said it's a very "absorbing" activity. It took me about 3 hours start to the ready to stain stage and it seemed like only minutes in retrospect. Good luck with the surgery, I hope it solves the problem and look forward to the debut of this Albatros!
Oh, and by the way, we may be on to something pretty clever with our common approach to pain relief; I use the same procedure and find a good belt of single malt late in the day really works on arthritis as well!

Cheers,
Lance

FAf · « **Reply #68 on:** May 27, 2020, 06:10:55 PM »

Hi!
I've been meaning to reply to you about the paper I used for my propellers, but I never got around to doing so and now you seem to be doing quite well anyway. Good! Your results look promising.

Anyway: I bought slightly thicker paper from a crafts store. I'm sure I could find out a weight for them, but for now I can say that they are 0,21 mm thick and with a slightly rugh texture. I don't really think that the kind of paper matters that much and you idea to tint paper sounds really interesting. I'll see if I can do that with normal paper for the printer. It would be interesting as they are only 0,08 mm thick.

Cheers
Fredrik

GazzaS · « **Reply #69 on:** May 27, 2020, 06:58:04 PM »

Thanks for the prop lesson. Think I may have to try it.

lone modeller · « **Reply #70 on:** May 28, 2020, 02:54:22 AM »

Good attempt on the prop. Like Richie and Lance I too find carving them (in 1/32 and 1/72 scales) very absorbing and satisfying. I admit that I have not tried the paper method, but wood laminate seems to work well.

Stephen.

smperry · « **Reply #71 on:** May 28, 2020, 02:58:56 AM »

Thanks for the positive responses y'all. I went to Walmart and found manila folders, manila envelopes and a pack of colored card stock. The Cardstock is Astrobrights Cardstock and the label sez 176 g/m2 or 65 lb. (Item # 99316, check Astrobrights.com)

I had to go out to get blood work done prior to my Surgery on Monday, so I was able to stop and get the card. I will see how I feel later as to whether or not I will be trying to glue up some more prop blanks today.

The first pic is of the card stock colors and the second is a jewelry box my Grandfather made out of a cross section of a DH.4 Liberty plane prop. Richie and I were discussing subtle differences in propeller laminations on allied props Off Forum and this shows that there were differences even in a prop not intended to be light/dark laminated.
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RAGIII · « **Reply #72 on:** May 28, 2020, 03:13:44 AM »

Neat Jewelry box Steven! I have to make a trip to Wal Mart tomorrow so I will look for the card stock and folders.
RAGIII

RichieW · « **Reply #73 on:** May 28, 2020, 03:17:10 AM »

Really interesting to see those prop section jewellery boxes SP. Great story behind them too. Looks like you have enough card to make plenty of props. It's great fun eh?

smperry · « **Reply #74 on:** May 28, 2020, 03:42:25 AM »

The whole story in those prop jewelry boxes is that there was a fellow at work who liked WWI aircraft too. I told him about the boxes and he said, "Yeah, my Grandfather brought back 2 of them." We compared notes and both our Grandfathers had served with the 649th together.
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