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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #240 on: January 20, 2024, 08:37:19 PM »
The petrol controls.

"On the starboard wall of the cockpit was a group of eight levers on a common vertical axis. The upper four were the mixture controls, and the lower four were on-off controls for the petrol supply to the engines." (J.M. Bruce)

"Also on the starboard wall were two pairs of throttle levers, for forward and aft. engines, arranged, as in the 0/400, to control port and starboard engines differentially by rotating the knobs." (C.H. Barnes)

This part of the cockpit I have been putting off because it is what I dread the most.

Luckily, I have the instructions of WNW's (never released) HP O/100 to give me an idea of the size, relative to the cockpit/fuselage frame:



There are also two detailed drawings in the Handley Page O/400 Spare Parts Manual:





This is detail of a photograph of the crushed cockpit of the Handley Page V/1500, F7140, Atlantic, after it crashed on 5 July 1919 at at Parrsboro?, Nova Scotia in Canada:



And then there is this photograph from C.H. Barnes' 'Handley Page Aircraft Since 1907':




Work on it will start this weekend, so please be patient.

Cheers,
Willem
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #241 on: June 11, 2024, 09:27:47 PM »
Hi all,

I'm still working on the HP/1500, don't worry. The build has not been abandoned, but only slowed down more, due to life and work getting in the way. I am still working on the cockpit / nose segment, specifically the fuel controls, but I don't have anything recognizable to show (yet).

The original idea was to make a full diorama with the V/1500, a Vauxhall D-Type staff car, crew members, techies and some Rolls-Royce engine crates with tools. But as it is, I have less time at desk dan I hoped, and if I want to finish this model sometime this century, I need to change that plan.

So, to achieve some kind of proportional reference of this beast, I was thinking of parking a motorcycle next to one of the wheels.

I was thinking of CSM's Triumph Model H. (Tommy's War's Douglas motorcycle is not available anymore).

Would this be a good choice?

I would appreciate any thought and tips.

Cheers,
Willem
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #242 on: July 08, 2024, 02:58:51 AM »
I just caught up on what I missed and you continue to amaze Me! I think a Motorcycle by the wheel would be something all can recognize for the size comparison.
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #243 on: July 11, 2024, 11:35:36 AM »
Hi Wilem, I'm no motorcycle expert (haven't owned one in forty years!) but I believe the Triumph would go well with the big H-P, they made tens of thousands of them throughout the Great War and on into the early 1920s... so you might well find them around an aerodrome anytime right up into the 1940s. Like Rick says, it'd be perfect for adding scale.

Really enjoying this thread, and veel succes gewenst!

Dutch

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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #244 on: July 13, 2024, 02:40:06 AM »
I just caught up on what I missed and you continue to amaze Me! I think a Motorcycle by the wheel would be something all can recognize for the size comparison.
RAGIII

Thank you Rick!

The cockpit is giving headaches and sleepless nights, so I have made a cautious start with the fuselage, beginning with figuring out the fabric covering and the lacing.

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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #245 on: July 13, 2024, 02:45:51 AM »
Hi Wilem, I'm no motorcycle expert (haven't owned one in forty years!) but I believe the Triumph would go well with the big H-P, they made tens of thousands of them throughout the Great War and on into the early 1920s... so you might well find them around an aerodrome anytime right up into the 1940s. Like Rick says, it'd be perfect for adding scale.

Really enjoying this thread, and veel succes gewenst!

Dutch

Thank you also for your support Dutch  :)

I think the choice is made than. The Triumph it will be.

Just have a little patience with me...

Willem


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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #246 on: July 13, 2024, 10:49:55 AM »
Just have a little patience with me...
I think I speak for many followers of this thread when I say I have a lot of patience for you on this one, Willem!
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (project stopped)
« Reply #247 on: March 15, 2026, 11:37:20 PM »
Dear friends,

I'm sorry to say that I'm going to stop working on this project.

There are several reasons for this.

When I started this (I began collecting data back in 2016), I knew how large this model would become, but at the time it didn't seem like a problem to me. Ten years later, my life and the world look very different.
Over the years, my health has slowly declined, and osteoarthritis in particular is starting to take its toll, especially in my feet and hands. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to climb stairs, which is something I have to do frequently in this house. My hands are also becoming more painful, and it's getting harder and harder to work with and assemble the small parts. I simply no longer have the necessary strength in my hands.

My wife Karin had a stroke in 2021, and I've been her caregiver ever since. She's paralyzed on one side, and that's not going to change. We have a lot of help, but most of it falls on me. I also work three days a week, and it's getting harder and harder to "recharge my batteries". I'm retiring next January, and although I have a great job with wonderful colleagues, I m really starting to look forward to it'

We've applied for a single-story home, which automatically means we'll be downsizing. It'll be about half the size of our current place. There won't be room for a model of these dimensions (120cm span) there.

My partner in crime was David Hall, and I am very grateful to him for his help. He converted the immense number of factory drawings we were allowed to view at the RAF Museum in London into construction drawings for the model.

I would also like to thank Rob Mulder and Colin Owers for providing high-resolution photos.

In the US, Joshua Flory found rare documents in various museums. These are mostly test reports from flights conducted in the UK with the V/1500.

Without the support and encouragement from you, my fellow forum members, I probably would have given up long ago.
Nonetheless, this project has given me a tremendous amount of pleasure. Even though I didn't reach my destination of my journey, I learned an awful lot along the way.

I hadn't built a model in 40 years, and of all the models I built before that, not a single one survived the 12 moves I made all over the Netherlands.

The Handley Page V/1500 was my first -and unfortunately also my last- attempt at building a scratch-built model. In hindsight, I bit off more than I could chew with this project, and I think there are forum members who saw this coming. But it allowed me to temporarily forget the crazy world around me by focusing on fiddling with 0.5 mm styrene, brass, and wood.

Of course, I'll remain a member of this wonderful forum and continue to follow your fantastic build logs. I also plan to build a smaller model (1/72) from a kit in the not-too-distant future, but scratch-building is no longer an option. I still have plenty of small kits in my stash that ARE within my capabilities, so maybe, one day, I'll build something worth showing.

So, this is by no means goodbye, just a step back, and you're not rid of me yet!

I'll be back

Willem
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #248 on: March 16, 2026, 12:52:39 AM »
And I look forward to seeing the 1/72 kit when you get round to it.

Youth is wasted on the young and and by the time you are old enough to appreciate good health and strength it starts getting taken away from you. 

I am sorry to hear about your wife and wish the best for your new life in your new home. I hope you really enjoy your retirement.

Kind regards, Alan.
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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #249 on: March 16, 2026, 07:42:09 PM »
Willem, I'm not surprised this project turned out to be too big (in all senses of the word). Sometimes life gets in the way and if you're not able to fully enjoy the project, it's best to move on. I hope you're able to find time to get some enjoyment from modelling in the future, but in the mean time any contributions from you on the forum are more than welcome.

Best of luck with the downsizing and continued best wishes for your wife.

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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #250 on: March 19, 2026, 08:03:50 AM »
Willem,

I am very sad to read your post: not only your problems with failing health but your wife's problems and the need for you to move to a smaller (but more practical) home. As my late father used to say, "old age does not come alone", and as Alan has commented, youth is wasted on the young. I hope that you might be able to pass on what you have already made, and the information you have gathered, to another modeller to complete, although that would be a mammoth, (in every sense), task. This project will be missed I am sure, but equally we can all understand why you have stopped.

I do hope that when life is more settled and you have found a new home that you will post again. You are clearly a very skilled modeller and it would be wonderful to see more of your work in future. In the meantime I wish you the very best and hope that you will be able to find a new home and settle in quickly and well.

Stephen.

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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #251 on: March 20, 2026, 10:16:35 PM »
Thank you Alan, Nigel and Stephen for your kind and supporting words.

It's a bummer, because it is not in my DNA to not finish something I've started. I am not a quitter.

Well, it is what it is, and believe me, I still take pleasure in watching all the beautiful builds on this forum.

So, for now, I'll take a backseat and enjoy everinge that's unfolding before my eyes.

And in the meantime, I'm already mulling over what might be a good candidate to build in 1/72 scale. But not too big...

Willem


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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #252 on: March 26, 2026, 01:01:47 PM »
Willem,

The Brits put great effort into developing the V/1500 during WW1, yet even though it never saw combat in that war it still inspires today.  Should it prove true that your one-of-a-kind masterwork never flies off your workbench, the progress already you've shared here will no doubt similarly inspire others for years to come!

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Re: 1/32 Handley Page V/1500 scratch build (slowgress report)
« Reply #253 on: March 27, 2026, 05:29:31 AM »
Thank you for your kind words Paul.

It was fun to do, and I have learned a lot while doing it.

This aircraft remains a bit of a mystery. We had tons of detailed factory drawings, but that made it only harder to make decisions about detaling.

Lesson learned.

Willem
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