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Offline Alexis

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2020, 11:29:48 AM »
You have your work cut out for you with this step . Just thinking out loud here , but couldn't you use white decal sheet it shelf as the base for the national markings and not having to cut into the wood grain decals ?


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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2020, 07:25:18 PM »
Hi Terri,
I had thought of various way to get around these translucent decals.

Applying the wood decals, then white paint or white decal over the wood decals where the kit decals are to go, then applying the kit decals.
Applying the wood decals then using masks to airbrush on the various kit markings.
Applying the wood effect by oil brushing then airbrushing the kit markings.

Although all of the above are feasible, they all involve either two or more layers, which might leave a 'ridge' around the finished markings.
That would be tricky to eliminate without damaging the markings and surrounding area.

Applying the wood and kit decals separately onto a white base coat is not going to be easy and will be time consuming, but hopefully there won't be any noticeable ridges and it'll all look uniform.
We'll see

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #182 on: March 01, 2020, 07:47:44 AM »
Now I'm getting excited on seeing the results Mike , thanks for the reply  :)


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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #183 on: March 01, 2020, 08:37:41 AM »
Hi Terri,
As I thought, the decals are very fragile and easily damaged even when dry and still on their backing sheets.
I caught one decal on its backing sheet with a finger nail and the decals ripped!!
I'm applying the decals to the easiest panels first.
So it's a case of 'Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey'

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #184 on: March 01, 2020, 05:44:24 PM »
Very, very nice Mike!

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #185 on: March 01, 2020, 08:28:58 PM »
How about applying the decals to a sheet of white decal paper?

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #186 on: March 01, 2020, 10:58:19 PM »
The decals may be fragile but what you have done so far look Great!
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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #187 on: March 02, 2020, 01:06:26 AM »
Looks great, Mike.  Take your time on this one.

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2020, 04:46:57 AM »
Hi all,
Thanks for the encouragement.

Richard:
Yeah as I said in the previous post, I had considered white decal as decal backing.
However I'm trying to limit various layers in an attempt to keep the finished surface uniformly flat.
Even though a white decal backing is thin, it would be another layer.
Anyway I'm committed now so we'll see.
Thanks for your suggestion though - something to bear in mind for the wing roundels,

Mike 
« Last Edit: March 02, 2020, 08:06:04 AM by Mike 'Sandbagger' Norris »


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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #189 on: March 02, 2020, 11:19:33 PM »
Bad decals or not you are creating a great looking bird!!

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #190 on: March 03, 2020, 09:58:00 AM »
Hi all,
I've removed the wood effect decals from the fuselage as they proved to be extremely easily damaged, even after being sealed.
Maybe a bad set of decals, but I've never know decals to chip, tear or lift off the surface after being sealed!!
It's as though the have no adhesion at all.
Anyway I'm reverting back to using oil paint to represent the fuselage wood panels.

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #191 on: March 03, 2020, 11:04:10 AM »
Well now that just sucks Mike , she was really starting to pull together with the scheme , still though I'm looking forward on the oils  ( Your work will turn out better then the decals anyway )  ;) 8)



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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #192 on: March 03, 2020, 08:25:33 PM »
It is so much to learn from your threads! Many thanks for showing all those bits and explaining. Not only the top notch modelling but teaching as well.
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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2020, 10:37:16 PM »
That's quite a setback, but after seeing what the results could be, I hope you are motivated to complete this!

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Re: Macchi M-5
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2020, 10:54:39 PM »
Hi all,
Thanks.
Every now and then we all get to the 'throwing at the wall' point with a model.
I should have expected problems as I'd used this make of wood decal previously.
However lessons learned and we carry on.

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