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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2019, 05:26:46 AM »
Wow....you're the Master of Masking. :o

Spectacular!

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2019, 06:55:00 AM »
Thanks for lookin in!
Fredrik, thanks for showing!
Are those masks for the crosses self made on a foil cutter plotter? Another reason for such a machine ...

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #47 on: October 31, 2019, 10:29:56 AM »
Tail turned out not to bad at all Fredrik , I like it , like it a lot actually . I haven't had the pleasure of trying out Tamiya's white tape . Hobby shops here don't carry it . What was it like working with the tape ?


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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #48 on: October 31, 2019, 01:18:14 PM »
This is the art of masking at its best. I'm still trying to get better at basic masking and your photos and descriptions are very helpful. Thank you for posting them.

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2019, 03:41:54 AM »
Terri, the white tape is for curves and behaves different to the yellow paper tape.
Search for "Tamiya Masking Tape for Curves", here are the numbers:

Source: www.modellingtools.co.uk

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2019, 07:15:19 PM »
Thanks for lookin in!
Fredrik, thanks for showing!
Are those masks for the crosses self made on a foil cutter plotter? Another reason for such a machine ...

Cheers,
Frank

Hi Frank!
Yes, the masks are homemade, using a Silhuette Cameo 2 plotter. I'm sure the machine can do more things than just paintmasks but I've never tried...

/Fredrik

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2019, 07:44:38 PM »
Tail turned out not to bad at all Fredrik , I like it , like it a lot actually . I haven't had the pleasure of trying out Tamiya's white tape . Hobby shops here don't carry it . What was it like working with the tape ?


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Hi Terri!
The curvy tape has its uses but also some problems I think. With the red outline on the tail, I decided on a 2mm width because I had that white Tamiya tape and it worked really well to place that along the outer edges. I then took more white tape and placed it right next to the first strip. No real problems there at all.

You do see that the tape is quite thick and that in the sharper bend on the rudder it couldn't quite settle down, and here is a problem I think. The way I used it I wanted the nice crisp edges of the tape. As far as I've understood it, you are supposed to stretch the tape before use. That allows for a much more flexible tape and it also adheres better to the surface. BUT if you stretch it you loose the nice straight edges... which could be a problem in some cases. So I'm happy to have the roll of tape in my drawer, but I only rarely use it. I usually go for normal masking tape instead and narrower kinds (0,3 to 1 mm) if I need to mask curves of different kinds.

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2019, 07:47:10 PM »
This is the art of masking at its best. I'm still trying to get better at basic masking and your photos and descriptions are very helpful. Thank you for posting them.

Thank you Albert! I'm really happy if you can pick something up from my posts! Ask away if there is anything you wonder and experiment and practice. In the end that is the only way you actually will get better at masking. Best of luck!
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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2019, 08:44:38 PM »
Brilliant work on all of the Markings. Your Masking is second to none!
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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2019, 09:29:54 PM »
I have some of the Tamiya white tape also.  As Fredrik says it has some limitations.  It is just like vinyl automotive pin striping, but the adhesive is not as aggressive.  I have used the pin striping for masking on model cars for years.

Looks like spraying the white color over the black edges of the crosses was not a problem? 

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2019, 11:05:40 PM »
    I'm a fan of the Tamiya tape for curves however as mentioned it's a little thick for some smaller applications. I find the 2 and 3 mm stock the most useful. For Terri a good Canadian source is Sunward Hobbies in Toronto; great prices, same day shipping (free on orders over $60) and arrives in my PO Box in a week or less! Highly recommended. (I have no association with Sunward)

https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca/

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2019, 11:56:59 PM »
Looks like spraying the white color over the black edges of the crosses was not a problem?

No, but mostly because it's not done that way. I try to make the masks so that each area is only sprayed once. Therefore the white is sprayed next to but not on the black.

This creates a problem in some cases. When painting white over a multi-coloured background it's difficult to get an even coverage and you are then tempted to lay on more colour, which might end up too thick or runny. You can see a bit of this if you look closely at the left side of the port fuselage cross.

In my other build with the Eduard D.V which has a white rudder and a yellow and green fin, I simply didn't paint the white outline on the already white rudder and I thought that to be solution. However, after your statement/question Kensar, I now think that it might be better some times to first spray the white areas with some darker more opaque colour and then white on top of that. This should work fine, as my experience is that white on top of darker colours isn't that tricky as long as the contrasts between underlying colours are small.

Sorry! Longer answer than I thought and maybe not that clear?!

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2019, 02:10:43 AM »
Thanks for the reply.  I can understand it.  I have limited experience painting national symbols on aircraft, but have had to do it and I wondered how  you handled the potential for paint color showing through and how thick the paint layers become after painting 3 or more colors on top of each other.

I am interested in one of those pattern cutters and wanted to know what type of masking sheet do you use?  Something that is made by the cutter company?  I have also seen sheets of Tamiya masking tape material, but they are expensive.

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2019, 04:16:22 AM »
Yes, the masks are homemade, using a Silhuette Cameo 2 plotter. I'm sure the machine can do more things than just paintmasks but I've never tried...
Thank you Fredrik, so my guess was right. The plotter comes on my wish list for next Christmas! ;D

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: WnW Albatros, Ltn Wolf, Jasta 5
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2019, 05:32:55 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I can understand it.  I have limited experience painting national symbols on aircraft, but have had to do it and I wondered how  you handled the potential for paint color showing through and how thick the paint layers become after painting 3 or more colors on top of each other.

I am interested in one of those pattern cutters and wanted to know what type of masking sheet do you use?  Something that is made by the cutter company?  I have also seen sheets of Tamiya masking tape material, but they are expensive.

I use a vinyl mask film made by Artool called Ultra Mask, which I've been buying from The Airbrush Company, based in the UK. I think it actually is an American product, so I don't think you'll have any problems finding a supplier closer to home. The vinyl is easy to work with, virtually no shrinkage, etc. Simply ideal for model purposes.
/Fredrik