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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on February 06, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
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Well I have started my next build. Honestly I was not going to post a Log as I will most likely do nothing that hasn't been seen before. I am building McCuddens bird,#4863. I will also be substituting Rowans Markings for the Encore kit decals , Thanks Lance! Here is where I am after a couple of days. I have utilized the resin Pulley inserts, Not a Drop in Replacement, and begun the filling and touch up process. I also removed the pour sprues from the Prop. Lastly I have assembled the basic engine. I will be closing up the cowls so no super detailing here. Just need the basic paint job. I Hope you all enjoy my process:
RAGIII
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Good start, Rick. I'm glad you decided to share... I'll be following along.
Chris
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fantastic start - following along here!
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You're off to a great start RAG! Thanks for sharing this build with us, I'm looking forward to seeing more of this build.
Warren
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Brilliant start, Amigo! Looking forward to following along with this one. Soon, I'll be following your footsteps in 1/48 scale. Just like old times.
Cheers,
Bud
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Nice start Rick! I'll be following the build with much interest.
Like Bud, I'm sort of following in your steps, though at my usual snail's pace. However, I decided against McCudden and am going for Gwilym Lewis's aircraft through the medium of the WNW model. I'm also going to give Richard and Harry's doped linen finishes a go.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Great to see that you decided to post your build of this kit Rick, what you have done already looks impressive.
Des.
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Hello Rick,
Nice start my friend. I will certainly follow this one. It was my first build, WnW though. Good luck you will make it a stunner I'm sure.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Thanks for sharing this Rick. It will be very helpful. :D
Regards,
Bob
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I'm pulling up a chair to watch this one too Rick, as I have the same kit. No doubt I'll learn something along the way.
Cheers,
Chris
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Vrey nice start Rick.
Martin
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The Encore SE.5a is a great value kit, tons of PE & resin - you've made a good start.
I found the pulley inserts took a bit of time & I had to drill right through the wing to get them fitted.
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Hello gentlemen,
I ship. ;)
Best regards.
Alain.
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Thanks to all for the encouragement!
RAGIII
Brilliant start, Amigo! Looking forward to following along with this one. Soon, I'll be following your footsteps in 1/48 scale. Just like old times.
Cheers,
Bud
Bud, I am looking forward to your build! It was a lot of fun when you did the 1/48th DVII and I did the WNW kit! Are you planning a DUal build bringing the Roden 1/48th up to the WNW standards like your Tripes? If so it will be even more spectacular.
RAGIII
I'm pulling up a chair to watch this one too Rick, as I have the same kit. No doubt I'll learn something along the way.
Cheers,
Chris
Well Chris, My opinion is you have become such a great builder of fine WW1 kits that there is little you can still learn from me. I am however glad you will be following along :D
RAGIII
The Encore SE.5a is a great value kit, tons of PE & resin - you've made a good start.
I found the pulley inserts took a bit of time & I had to drill right through the wing to get them fitted.
Yes, right through the wing. My issue was that for some reason they fell short of being even with the opposite surface once installed so filler was used to even out the hole in the wing. I am also going to use the PE triangular frames so have sanded off the resin even with the wing surface. I will then fill the window with epoxy or Micro Krystal Kleer.
RAGIII
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Will be following this one Rick . Always enjoy your builds :)
Terri
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Hello Rick,
I like the start of it...and also it got me thinking about purchasing this one as there is one from second hand available from one guy on the different forum...hmm, well I see how tempted I really am in few days. In the meantime I'll be enjoying this build :)
Lukas
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Will be following this one Rick . Always enjoy your builds :)
Terri
Thanks Terri!
RAGIII
Hello Rick,
I like the start of it...and also it got me thinking about purchasing this one as there is one from second hand available from one guy on the different forum...hmm, well I see how tempted I really am in few days. In the meantime I'll be enjoying this build :)
Lukas
Thanks Lukas. As for this kit it is a good kit with all of the updates. Its value depends on what you pay of course. In the end it is not WNW in that it takes a lot of work,but does build up into a nice SE5a.
RAGIII
PS: Here is a Viper Powered version almost finished. It was knocked off of my display case shortly after being photographed :-[
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Hello, Rick
Apologies for not looking in on your build before. Your off to a great start already. I've no doubt this model will be to your high standard so good luck, mate!
Regards
Dave
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Hello, Rick
Apologies for not looking in on your build before. Your off to a great start already. I've no doubt this model will be to your high standard so good luck, mate!
Regards
Dave
Thanks Dave. I will try to live up to expectations 8) I made some progress today. I am using the engine OOB as stated with NO FRILLS. I have given it the basic paint work. I also have installed the PE triangular pieces for the inspection panels. Finally I have installed the PE framework in both fuselage halves.
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
thanks for heads up!!! I sort of like the idea of having Encore rather than WNW(which is odd) thanks to PE and resin details and surely little more of modelling :D
In the meantime I'll be watching this closely!!!
Lukas
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Nice modelling, Rick. Great to see there is life in 1/32 beyond WNW ;)
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Great progress already Rick, this promises to become another very interesting and wonderful build my friend!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Nice work Rick. I will be following this one
Cheers
Anthony
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Very good work Rick.
Martin
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Nice modelling, Rick. Great to see there is life in 1/32 beyond WNW ;)
Thanks Prez, The waqy things are going all of us WNW modelers better get back to the basics 8)
RAGIII
Great progress already Rick, this promises to become another very interesting and wonderful build my friend!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick, good to have you along!
RAGIII
Nice work Rick. I will be following this one
Cheers
Anthony
Thanks Anthony.
RAGIII
Very good work Rick.
Martin
Thanks martin, As always It is good to have you along!
RAGIII
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A small update. The PE frames kept popping loose whenever the fuselage flexed. Perhaps had I used 2 part epoxy this would not have been an issue. So... Replaced the PE with plastic strip. I sprayed some Vallejo RLM sand then used oils on the wood portions. Next up is aging the CDL a little and installing bracing wires:
RAGIII
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Sorry you had issues with the pe, amigo, but the plastic framing looks better, imho, especially with the great woodgrain paint job you did.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Rick, I agree with Bud. The plastic frames look very nice and the colour is great my friend. When you start painting you're the best!
Kind regards
Patrick
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It looks very beautiful Rick.
Martin
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The plastic framing works very well Rick.
Best wishes
Nigel
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looks great - the plastic strip structure worked out good I think
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looking good. Have wondered about these kits and its nice to see one being buit. Did they fly with the cover off the pully cut out or will you be covering that?
James
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Woodwork looks great, Rick.
Chris
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Thanks Guys. I appreciate you looking in.
RAGIII
looking good. Have wondered about these kits and its nice to see one being buit. Did they fly with the cover off the pully cut out or will you be covering that?
James
If you are speaking of the Pulley inspection panels on the wings and tail, they will get filled with Epoxy or Kristal Kleer after painting to represent the clear cover.
RAGIII
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RAG, youre making wonderful progress on your SE5a! Like some others here, I too have this kit in the stash and its nice to see one being built.
I like the idea of filling the inspection ports with epoxy, what sort do you use? Ive had ideas of utilizing the clear plastic window from the front of a pasta boxes to simulate the cellon but hadnt yet figured out how id go about getting it in there and getting it to look decent.
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You are doing excellent work Rick, the inspection panels are very well done and the wood is superb.
Des.
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Thanks, I didnt know that. I wonder if the pullies were problematic and so needed a visible inspection panel. Something to look up I guess :)
James
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i have one of these , really not a bad kit. something looks a tad off with the figures proportions but otherwise great resin parts and the photoetch is very nice. i really like the little strut wraps that give you an anchor for rigging built in. also i think the resin pulley inserts look better than wnw molded in detail, although you can beat having it molded into the wing when it comes to simplicity. the guns are best upgraded especially the vickers. my mistake and what made me give up and put it back p on the shelf was that when i installed the pulleys i was careless about destroying the surface/fabric over frame details and had to resort to rib tapeing with evergreen which ended up too pronounced so then i started sanding until i got sick of it and put it aside. maybe one day i may pull it out again. meantime i will live vicariously thru you rick.
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Nice recovery on the framing and that wood looks nice mate
cheers
Anthony
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Thanks for the Comments guys! I will have some photos up in the next day or so. Not as much progress as I had hoped but have made some!
RAGIII
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Rick, my apologies for somehow missing this build up until now. :-[
You are doing an excellent job, especially with the work on the
pulley inspection panels. I am glad you went with the styrene interior
framing, which looks first-rate as does the wood colouring. I will
certainly be following the rest of the way and looking forward to
the next updates. Well done, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Rick, my apologies for somehow missing this build up until now. :-[
You are doing an excellent job, especially with the work on the
pulley inspection panels. I am glad you went with the styrene interior
framing, which looks first-rate as does the wood colouring. I will
certainly be following the rest of the way and looking forward to
the next updates. Well done, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie, and all of the others who have posted comments. Greatly Appreciated!! I have been working on this one and made some progress. Still a long way to go. I am finding it difficult to keep adding things that I wouldn't be playing with if this were the WNW SE5a ;D
That being said I am progressing albeit slowly..... :(
RAGIII
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The fuselage halves are just Placed in position over the wing. I have to paint the bracing wires steel and add some smoke and mirrors turnbuckles 8) I am going to add some more stuff that WNW includes stock. More in a few (4 or 5), days.
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Hello Rick,
The interior looks gorgeous my friend. The woodpainting is breathtaking. This is a wonderful build you are on!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Great job, Rick, there is a lovely build going on in this thread. Thumbs up.
Thanks for posting the pics, S.E.5a is on my wish list too, so I will take inspiration from your progress.
Cheers.
Ondra
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Exellent work and paint Rick.
Martin
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Hello Rick,
The interior looks gorgeous my friend. The woodpainting is breathtaking. This is a wonderful build you are on!
Kind regards
Patrick
+1. Looking very fine Rick!
Regards,
Bob
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Nice work, Rick...great wood treatment. I've always thought that darn Se-5 seat looks so uncomfortable!
This is fun to watch...Dan
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Hello Rick,
The interior looks gorgeous my friend. The woodpainting is breathtaking. This is a wonderful build you are on!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick. As always I appreciate your comments and following along with my build.
RAGIII
Great job, Rick, there is a lovely build going on in this thread. Thumbs up.
Thanks for posting the pics, S.E.5a is on my wish list too, so I will take inspiration from your progress.
Cheers.
Ondra
Thanks Ondra, I am sure you will build a Masterpiece in your chosen scale!
RAGIII
Exellent work and paint Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin, your comments are always appreciated!
RAGIII
Hello Rick,
The interior looks gorgeous my friend. The woodpainting is breathtaking. This is a wonderful build you are on!
Kind regards
Patrick
+1. Looking very fine Rick!
Regards,
Bob
Thanks for following along and the positive comments Bob!
RAGIII
Nice work, Rick...great wood treatment. I've always thought that darn Se-5 seat looks so uncomfortable!
This is fun to watch...Dan
Thanks for looking in Dan. I appreciate your comment!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick:
You are a taking on quite the challenge with this kit and doing yeomans work. The pulley access panels really add to the kit, not a job for the faint hearted. I have this kit and would like to do it in McCuddens markings as well, but; for those pulley access panels, I may have started on it.
Looking good Rick and I will be checking in to see how you are coming along.
Best
Mark
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Looking great, Rick.
Drew
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Man that looks good. Love the wood work.
James
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Back home and just catching up, great work so far, it will be up to WNW standard !
Ed
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Lovely work, Rick. For me the SE5a was a thoroughbred amongst aircraft and you are really doing it justice.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi Rick:
You are a taking on quite the challenge with this kit and doing yeomans work. The pulley access panels really add to the kit, not a job for the faint hearted. I have this kit and would like to do it in McCuddens markings as well, but; for those pulley access panels, I may have started on it.
Looking good Rick and I will be checking in to see how you are coming along.
Best
Mark
Thanks Mark. I agree that the pulley inspection panels add a lot to the kit. On my original doomed SE5a Viper pictured earlier I drilled and cut out the area and scratch built my own pulleys. The resin and PE pieces really make this easier ::) Overall the Roden/Encore kit is really fairly nice. I just ordered the WNW SE and may add it to this build for comparison... after all There is APF Rhys Davids scheme that would go great with McCuddens 8)
RAGIII
Looking great, Rick.
Drew
Thanks Drew, Your comment is appreciated!
RAGIII
Man that looks good. Love the wood work.
James
James, Thanks for the positive feedback!
RAGIII
Back home and just catching up, great work so far, it will be up to WNW standard !
Ed
Thanks Amigo! I bet you are already missing that grandbaby!
RAGIII
Lovely work, Rick. For me the SE5a was a thoroughbred amongst aircraft and you are really doing it justice.
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Nigel. I agree that the SE was a Work Horse of aircraft!
RAGIII
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Great work so far Rick, and your wood grain is beautiful.
Warren
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You are doing a wonderful job, Rick. Great wood effects!
Looking forward to the next updates, my friend. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Your build continues to impress, Rick. The woodwork looks lovely.
Chris
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Great work so far Rick, and your wood grain is beautiful.
Warren
Thanks Warren! I was holding off expecting my WNW SE to arrive any day. It seems my order went astray somewhere in the US and returned to New Zealand so I started back just using the WNW directions to add some details. I will post photos in the next day or so. Not a whole lot done due to the delay. I re worked the seat cushion and added a few bits to the interior since the last photos. I am ready to add the control lines for elevators and rudder.
RAGIII
You are doing a wonderful job, Rick. Great wood effects!
Looking forward to the next updates, my friend. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie! Always appreciate your comments.
RAGIII
Your build continues to impress, Rick. The woodwork looks lovely.
Chris
Thanks for looking in and your comment Chris!
RAGIII
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The only photo I have taken shows the left fuselage with the re-do of the seat cushion and some beginnings of control details copied from the WNW instructions and built using sheet styrene.
RAGIII
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RAGIII I have two Roden SE 5 in my stash, one I won here ;D
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4366.0
So I will be looking here to learn.
I wish you to get your WNW SE 5 very quickly.
Adam
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Very accomplished, Rick, but then what else might we expect from your skilled hands?
Best wishes
Nigel
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Very fine work Rick.
Martin
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Very nice - although your photo is a bit on the dark side...
Stefan
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Rick, I was wondering what you were using for the interior
bracing? Any sign of the wandering SE? ;) :D Looking forward
to the next bit of magic coming out of NC. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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You have done brilliant work so far Rick, your wood colours are superb, the interior is looking excellent.
Des.
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RAGIII I have two Roden SE 5 in my stash, one I won here ;D
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4366.0
So I will be looking here to learn.
I wish you to get your WNW SE 5 very quickly.
Adam
Thanks Adam, I hope in the end my build inspires and gives you ideas on how to tackle this kit. Time will tell ;D
RAGIII
Very accomplished, Rick, but then what else might we expect from your skilled hands?
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Nigel, Comments greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Very fine work Rick.
Martin
Thank you Martin!
RAGIII
Very nice - although your photo is a bit on the dark side...
Stefan
Thanks Stefan. My photography is still a work in progress!
RAGIII
Rick, I was wondering what you were using for the interior
bracing? Any sign of the wandering SE? ;) :D Looking forward
to the next bit of magic coming out of NC. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie,
As always thanks for looking in and your comments. As for the wires, they are the oldest and most simple method I know, Heat Stretched Sprue. My WNW order never made it past my regional PO. Went back to New Zealand. David has answered my E MAil and promises ton let me know when the SE and Salmson re ship.
RAGIII
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You have done brilliant work so far Rick, your wood colours are superb, the interior is looking excellent.
Des.
Thanks Des. I am attempting to add some/most of the interior detail offered in the WNW kit. It would be much easier with the kit in hand rather than trying to guess at drawings from the WNW instructions ::)
RAGIII
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Due to an unexpected work schedule change and some self created difficulties with the kit, it has been a while since I posted an update. I have almost completed the interior work but have changed my mind as to which of McCuddens aircraft I am going to model. I had a couple of modeling sessions where nothing seemed to go right. This led to an attempt to graft the bulged portion of the resin upper cockpit with the plastic Roden original. All went well with one side then disaster struck on the second. So I began to look at alternatives. I have been studying 4891, using every photo I have and a magnifying glass, and am about 75% convinced that the aircraft did not have bulged sides. I like controversy so have decided to model 4891 with no bulges unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I also have it in mind to do a Diorama with the McCudden figure someday and as he is wearing his Hun Hat 4891 is more appropriate.
The photo below shows my progress. I am sure all will notice how untidy the edges of the cockpit look as well as the seem where the decking meets the fuselage sides. This area will be scraped and cleaned off to allow glue to set up properly. The upper fuselage/cockpit coaming covers all of the bad spots... or so I think! I also need to paint the edging aluminum on the inside edge.
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Exellent painting and good work Rick.
Martin
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That really looks good, Rick. Your instrument panel looks
great as does the wood work in general. I know whichever
version you go with, you will end up with an amazing model,
my friend. Onward and upward. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Outstanding job on the cockpit, Amigo! The instrument panel is brilliant. I support your decision to go without the bulged cockpit. I've yet to see a photo that clearly shows the bulge on 4891.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Rick,
Fabulous work on the cockpit. What a lovely control stick you made! Your instruments look fabulous. Very well done. Keep up this tremendous work! ;)
Kind regards
Patrick
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Excellent cockpit instruments, they look 1/32 !!
Ed
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Exellent painting and good work Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin! As always I appreciate you following along!
RAGIII
That really looks good, Rick. Your instrument panel looks
great as does the wood work in general. I know whichever
version you go with, you will end up with an amazing model,
my friend. Onward and upward. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie. I have now scraped off the paint I mentioned and it looks a lot better for the removal! The panel is out of the box Roden with the Encore/Eduard PE instruments. They look very effective to my eye. As a matter of fact the panel is one of the things I think the Encore kit beats the WNW SE5a on 8)
RAGIII
Patrick my friend, Thank you for the encouragement! Your comments are always greatly appreciated!!
RAGIII
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Outstanding job on the cockpit, Amigo! The instrument panel is brilliant. I support your decision to go without the bulged cockpit. I've yet to see a photo that clearly shows the bulge on 4891.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud, as I said reference Ernies post the Instruments in the Encore kit really do enhance the panel. As for 4891 I am even more convinced now. I went back and looked at Dr. Merrils Booklet that came with the 56q. Decals. He shows the bulge on all aircraft "Known to have the bulge" 4891 does not have it illustrated. The photos I looked at really do not show any sign. There was one that I thought had an indication but under the magnifying glass turned out to be shadow or exhaust staining, not the outline of the bulge! That and the fact that Encore has also come to the No Bulge conclusion has me feeling pretty good about my choice.
RAGIII
Excellent cockpit instruments, they look 1/32 !!
Ed
Thanks ED, I am glad they look 1/32nd 8) I appreciate you looking in as always Amigo!
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That looks great, Rick. Those Americal booklets are treasures. Dr. Merrill usually seemed to come to sensible conclusions.
Drew
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Rick,
The "bulge vs. no bulge on 4891" debate is, to me , akin to the PC10 debate. We just can't be sure........... I did her with the bulge per my interpretation of the photos. The popular shot of 4891 in all the books, a 3/4 left front shot (Pg15 Osprey SE5/5a Aces, P79 No. 56 Sqn RAF/RFC, and most clearly reproduced in SE5/SE5a Squadrons by Albatros Pubs, Photo 56/7) appears to have the bulge however is this aircraft 4891 (Coded "6") or 4863 ("G") with the headrest removed?? The only thing were sure of is........were not sure, as I love to say! I tend to lean towards the info presented by Albatros as Ray does his homework, perhaps he could comment here? I am, given your comments on Dr Merril's conclusions, now totally unsure again! :-\
Other then being as correct in your assumptions and conclusions as anyone the model is coming along beautifully. I still have the Encore Kit and have another WNW in the stash, I think I'll do Tony Rhys David's standard with the latter and possibly a night Fighter version with the Encore.
I'm enjoying your progress here, keep at Her!
Cheers,
Lance
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Rick and Lance, everything I've read on all of McCudden's kites, from "Flying Fury" to the various Osprey books to the Albatros Datafiles and Specials, indicate that they were all works in progress. Our Jimmy was a skilled mechanic, a tinkerer and an aviation visionary and continuously improved his mounts. Therefore, I contend that at any given time, you could both be right.
Cheers,
Bud
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Rick and Lance, everything I've read on all of McCudden's kites, from "Flying Fury" to the various Osprey books to the Albatros Datafiles and Specials, indicate that they were all works in progress. Our Jimmy was a skilled mechanic, a tinkerer and an aviation visionary and continuously improved his mounts. Therefore, I contend that at any given time, you could both be right.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud. That's basically what I was trying to say in my own jumbled way. The 3/4 front view is captioned as both 4891 and 4863 between all the References I have, and it's not a great shot due to no serials or markings being visible. I suspect your theory related to McCudden's work on his various aircraft is a very likely possibility. One thing for certain, you need to be very careful of your references. Some of the profiles in the Osprey Series are at total odds with the written descriptions or known facts.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks all for the comments. I greatly appreciate the input. Lance, I am not convinced that the shot you are referencing is 4891 as in all other publications it is captioned 4863. I know the ailerons look to be the narrow cord but I think that is perhaps an optical illusion. I even checked the huts in the picture to see if the location could be determined from the airfield drawings in HITEB. My determination was that it could be Estree Blanche (SP) As for shots of 4891 the Absolutely most clear shot of the right side of 4891 with the spinner et all is in many books but the best is in the Windsock Aces and Aircraft series on McCudden. It is printed larger and more clearly than in the many other pubs including HITEB. This and another shot from HITEB are the ones I have studied under the Magnifying glass. I have come to the conclusion that the bulge was not there. MY personal opinion of course, and as stated open for debate like PC10 ::) Like I said I trust Dr. Merrils research and consider his conclusions on the same level as Rays at Windsock. JMHO,
RAGIII
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It's looking really good, Rick. I agree with your decision, mate. There's only so much evidence about most of these aircraft. Nobody was thinking much about doing walk around studies in 1917- even if the technology was up to doing so. So you go with your best guesstimate, based on extant evidence.
Then some $%&(* will publish new photo's, proving you wrong, 30 seconds after you post a photo' of the finished build.....
Cheers.
Dal.
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It's looking really good, Rick. I agree with your decision, mate. There's only so much evidence about most of these aircraft. Nobody was thinking much about doing walk around studies in 1917- even if the technology was up to doing so. So you go with your best guesstimate, based on extant evidence.
Then some $%&(* will publish new photo's, proving you wrong, 30 seconds after you post a photo' of the finished build.....
Cheers.
Dal.
Thanks Dal! By the way you are probably right about the "New Photos" appearing as soon as I am done. That being said there is already a probability that Lance has things right!
RAGIII
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Which ever way you go Rick it is going to be a spectacular looking model.
Des.
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"I am not convinced that the shot you are referencing is 4891 as in all other publications it is captioned 4863"
........and me too, Rick. It's all very fuzzy and mud covered, that's a great part of the fun in my perspective. Your Build here has me thinking I'll do a "refit" on mine, it was only my second or third Build when I got back into the Hobby about 4 years ago and moved to 1:32 Scale. I'd like to try to get some pastel post shading on it as learned from following Bud's Builds. Ray at Albatros is quite busy dealing with the unfortunate loss of his Father, perhaps when he's back we can pick his brain a little on this question. In the meantime, keep that great looking model coming along!
Cheers,
Lance
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Which ever way you go Rick it is going to be a spectacular looking model.
Des.
Thanks Des, I can only hope you are correct! I was thinking that perhaps I should describe a little more thoroughly what "I" did to ruin the resin bulged cockpit. As seen in my earlier photos I added some formers behind the cockpit opening and about where the tank and ammo cans are located. I reinforced these sheet plastic formers with copious amounts of SUPERGLUE! I used a tool that I can never remember the name of consisting of a bunch of wires that conform to the shape of the object you use it on. ( I will photograph this tool later to illustrate). The issue with this was that the resin cockpit/coaming was stretched outwards and I didn't realize this until I dry fitted the part. It was spread out enough that the fit to the fuselage sides was affected. So.... I began to remove the former. I cracked/broke the resin part and decided to use just the bulges grafted to the roden plastic part. Like I said earlier the first one worked well but I somehow screwed up the second side. So again I want to emphasize that the issue was self created and no Fault of the Encore kit! This led me to looking more closely at all of McCuddens birds photos and I decided to substitute 4891 sans bulges.
RAGIII
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excellent cockpit, I like it!
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By the way you are probably right about the "New Photos" appearing as soon as I am done.
Whoever wrote Murphy's Law really needs a good kicking, don't they? :D I spent months illustrating some flags from the mid-1700's, only to receive photo's of surviving relics that showed how much I got wrong- after the illustrations were published. Now I can redo them and get them right.
Not to worry, Rick. It's a fine build, mate- you're setting the bar higher, yet again. I agree about the look of the IP, too. I wonder if WNW will update some of the parts, should they decide to release a Viper version?
Cheers.
Dal.
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Not to worry, Rick. It's a fine build, mate- you're setting the bar higher, yet again. I agree about the look of the IP, too. I wonder if WNW will update some of the parts, should they decide to release a Viper version?
Cheers.
Dal.
Dal, One other note is that if Roden had included Instrument dials as decals even their original panel would be better than WNW without the Encore/Eduard PE. That being said I am going to have to get some PE Bezels before I do the WNW panel.
RAGIII
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It looks awfully good to me Rick. Good to see you back at it.
Chris
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excellent cockpit, I like it!
Thanks Sasho! I appreciate the comment! I have pretty much finished the interior. I have cleaned up the cockpit side of paint where the glue will need to set up a good joint with the upper section. I have added the seat back cushion, and the headrest cushion. Next up gluing the upper cockpit section to the fuselage.
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I also cobbed together a representation of lap belts from wire and paper.
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Very nice cockpit, Rick!
George
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Great work on the cockpit Rick, the Instruments are beautifully done! It's starting to come together nicely.
Cheers,
Lance
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It looks awfully good to me Rick. Good to see you back at it.
Chris
Thanks Chris! I missed your comment earlier :o
RAGIII
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Exellent detailing the cockpit, Rick.
Martin
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This beautiful plane deserves to be bulit in top quality by a very skilled modeller - and I see this one is in the right hands, Rick! Great details as well as paint work.
Cheers
Ondra
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Very nice cockpit, Rick!
George
Thanks George!
RAGIII
Great work on the cockpit Rick, the Instruments are beautifully done! It's starting to come together nicely.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance, thanks for continuing to follow my build. I continue to struggle with this one for some reason. I think the warps in the fuselage affected things more than I thought they would...or more likely I am just becoming more of an assembler thanks to WNW kits ::)
RAGIII
Exellent detailing the cockpit, Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin, your comments are appreciated.
RAGIII
This beautiful plane deserves to be bulit in top quality by a very skilled modeller - and I see this one is in the right hands, Rick! Great details as well as paint work.
Cheers
Ondra
Ondra, I appreciate you looking in. What you do in 1/144th is far more outstanding!
RAGIII
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Here is the latest update. The upper fuselage cockpit coaming is added. Still need to fill and sand. I have also added the lower fuselage
PE panel to the nose.
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looking great - moving right along!
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You are making terrific progress, Rick. The PE panel looks dandy. :D
I look forward to the next update. Well done, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looking really good Rick, the PE panel is excellent.
Des.
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Great update Rick.
Martin
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looking great - moving right along!
Thanks for the comment! Greatly appreciated.
RAGIII
You are making terrific progress, Rick. The PE panel looks dandy. :D
I look forward to the next update. Well done, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie, As always thanks for following along and the encouraging words!
RAGIII
Looking really good Rick, the PE panel is excellent.
Des.
Thanks Des! It is funny that originally I wasn't going to use this PE part but found that it was a great cover up for the plastic part that didn't fit as well as I would have liked 8)
RAGIII
Martin,
Thanks and always a pleasure to have you along!
RAGIII
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Nice work. I just found this thread.
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Looking really nice, Rick!
Chris
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Truly outstanding work, amigo! Can't wait to see her with paint on.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello Rick!!!
You keep on doing great job!!! It looks fantastic so far!!!
Lukas
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Nice work. I just found this thread.
Thanks Rob, I appreciate your looking in!
RAGIII
Truly outstanding work, amigo! Can't wait to see her with paint on.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo, I as always your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
Hello Rick!!!
You keep on doing great job!!! It looks fantastic so far!!!
Lukas
Lukas,
Your comments are greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Now for the latest update:
1. I installed the engine. I did scratch build some formers using the WNW parts as masters and making slight adjustments to fit this kit. I eliminated the engine bearers that came with the kit as they seemed to interfere with the fit of the engine. I also had to cut off the locator on the underside of the engine for the lower piping. In order to get the upper cowl parts on the pipe attachments stuck out through the PE lower fuselage part. Probably something I did wrong! In the end I attached the upper cowl panels and everything is somewhat OK now. I am at the stage where this will be the redundant process of DRILLING holes for rigging!
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The engine cowls appear to have fitted extremely well Rick, this is turning into a real gem.
Des.
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You're quite the surgeon, Rick. Good job getting the engine to fit properly.
Looking forward to the next update, my friend. Happy drilling! ;) ;D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Nice job on getting the cowl panels to fit Rick :)
Terri
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I don't think that cowling could possibly fit any better, amigo! Remarkable job.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Rick,
looking at this photo I would say that the engine cowl fit on your model is pretty much in-line with the reality. Well, it is an S.E.5, not S.E.5a, but nevermind.
Great job all around so far, sir!
Cheers.
Ondra
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It looks wonderful Rick my friend! I still like this aircraft very much. You are doing a fine and great build thanks to your great craftmanship. Keep up the great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Very well worked Rick.
Martin
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Des, Ernie, Terri, Bud, Ondra, Patrick, and Martin,
Thank you all for your comments. They are greatly appreciated! As for the cowl fit I personally think I could have done a little better although the small wedge shaped things do line up with the holes. I will emphasize that I am not sure if I did something wrong in building the engine thus causing me to have to re-locate the way it is installed. using the kit mounts my engine sat too high and would not allow the cowl panels to fit at all. So anyone building this kit at least knows to be careful with the engine and do a lot of test fitting.
RAGIII
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Hi Rick:
Outstanding work to date. Thanks for the heads up on the engine fit as well. I have this and am thinking of doing it in Mannocks aircraft.
Looking forward to seeing you button it up.
Best
Mark
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Well done so far, Rick. This is shaping up beautifully.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hello Rick!!
It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)
Cheerio
Lukas
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Hi Rick:
Outstanding work to date. Thanks for the heads up on the engine fit as well. I have this and am thinking of doing it in Mannocks aircraft.
Looking forward to seeing you button it up.
Best
Mark
Thanks Mark, As always I appreciate your comments and support! I am looking forward to the build when you get to it1
RAGIII
Well done so far, Rick. This is shaping up beautifully.
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Nigel! I appreciate you looking in!
RAGIII
Hello Rick!!
It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)
Cheerio
Lukas
Thanks Lukas!
RAGIII
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you may have mentioned this but have you ever built the wnw version? i dont recall although for some reson as i type something makes me think i remember you doing "schweinhund" so perhaps you did another roden kit. my point i was wondering how you felt this encore with bells and whistles stacked up against the wnw kit. i am sure it take more work. but i really like how the resin pulley assy's look on the encore as compared to the wnw etc. just interested in your opinions.
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FYI a book on the pilot has just been published by Alex Revell entitled "The Happy Warrior"
Looks like an interesting book to accompany the model subject matter.
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you may have mentioned this but have you ever built the wnw version? i dont recall although for some reson as i type something makes me think i remember you doing "schweinhund" so perhaps you did another roden kit. my point i was wondering how you felt this encore with bells and whistles stacked up against the wnw kit. i am sure it take more work. but i really like how the resin pulley assy's look on the encore as compared to the wnw etc. just interested in your opinions.
I haven't built the WNW version...yet. Like you I do own one though. A quick comparison of the two kits resulted in the following:
1. Instrument panel better than WNW using the Encore PE parts
2. I personally like the stitching on the fuselage side on the Encore kit better. (Marginally)
3. The interior is Better in the WNW kit, again Marginally. The PE and a little scratch building can even this out to a degree. One thing I don't like is the molded in bracing wires on the WNW kit. WNW also gives you the ammo can, oil tank, and spent shell ejection chute.
4. The wings are better on the WNW kit, or at least the rib tapes( A little heavy but better than nothing at all).
6. Like you I like the resin inserts for the pulley inspection panels but at least you don't have to cut out, insert, fill and sand the WNW version.
7. The wrinkled fuselage panels are a nice addition but Not hard to add to the Encore kit using a little thick Acrylic paint.
8. A lot of the PE is great on the Encore kit and if one is PE friendly will close the gap a lot when looking at control horns and certain attachment points.
My final analysis was that if one has the Encore kit in their stash and only plans 1 SE then I wouldn't go for a WNW kit just to replace the encore version. If you plan to do more than 1, then the WNW kit perhaps mated to the PE aftermarket from HGW would be the choice. Finally I will assume that the fit will be better on the WNW kit ;D JMHO on all points!
RAGIII
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Hello Rick!!
It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)
Cheerio
Lukas
Totally agree with Lukas Rick my friend. Again you did a marvellous job! Very interesting comparision of the two kits. Thank you.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Rick!!
It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)
Cheerio
Lukas
Totally agree with Lukas Rick my friend. Again you did a marvellous job! Very interesting comparision of the two kits. Thank you.
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick! By the way a few more comparison points:
9. The location hole impressions for the rigging wires on the WNW kit make it much easier to locate and drill in the proper locations.
10. The struts are as usual, made in a way that positive location and alignment is / should be, much easier on the WNW kit.
11. The WNW engine covers have much better hinge and bolt detail!
RAGIII
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FYI a book on the pilot has just been published by Alex Revell entitled "The Happy Warrior"
Looks like an interesting book to accompany the model subject matter.
Thanks for the Heads up on this book! I have always enjoyed reading Alex Revells' work!
RAGIII
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Looking good, Rick; nice job fitting the cowls. Things never seem to go as smoothly for me when I take blade to plastic....
Chris
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thanks for the play by play, i pretty much agree on all points. i havent started the wnw but i think the 2 choices are closer in quality then say the roden tripe vs wnw. i am glad someone else thinks that wnw rib tapes are a bit unrealistic/slightly overdone. looking at actual photos the reality is somewhere in between the roden wings and wnw , one thing roden always got right where most other kit makers have missed is the wing undersides. the more realistic recessed ribs with downward bulging spaces in btw the wing ribs especially in the crown of the camber. this is how fabric stretched over a frame looks.also if you look at period photos closelymany times there is a touch of the starving cow recessed on upper surfaces which many respected modellers exclaim as a nono these days. the way wnw wings are done looks (in most cases) is a bit too uniform and therfore somewhat unrealistic in my eyes. i think roden wings with a hint of subdued stitching would be ideal acording to what i have seen in pictures.
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Looking good, Rick; nice job fitting the cowls. Things never seem to go as smoothly for me when I take blade to plastic....
Chris
Thanks Chris. Your comment is appreciated! I wouldn't say this is a smooth ride for me either but I have been able to recover from most of my errors 8)
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thanks for the play by play, i pretty much agree on all points. i havent started the wnw but i think the 2 choices are closer in quality then say the roden tripe vs wnw. i am glad someone else thinks that wnw rib tapes are a bit unrealistic/slightly overdone. looking at actual photos the reality is somewhere in between the roden wings and wnw , one thing roden always got right where most other kit makers have missed is the wing undersides. the more realistic recessed ribs with downward bulging spaces in btw the wing ribs especially in the crown of the camber. this is how fabric stretched over a frame looks.also if you look at period photos closelymany times there is a touch of the starving cow recessed on upper surfaces which many respected modellers exclaim as a nono these days. the way wnw wings are done looks (in most cases) is a bit too uniform and therfore somewhat unrealistic in my eyes. i think roden wings with a hint of subdued stitching would be ideal acording to what i have seen in pictures.
One thing we both should remember is that the WNW SE5a is one of their first releases. They learned quickly and later kits like the Tripe and Snipe are far and away better kits! The conclusion from my perspective is still that if one doesn't already own an SE then the WNW kit is the better starting point... albeit marginally. JMHO,
RAGIII
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Thanks for the comparison Rick, this will be very helpful to anyone contemplating buying an SE.5a kit.
Des.
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I have built the WNW Kit and have another, along with the Roden Kit, in my Stash and will build both some day. I've compared them closely and my findings agree with Ricks; the Roden effort is a very nice Kit however the Wingnut version is better overall. Nice progress Rick, keep hammering away and I look forward to the rollout of your finished project.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks for the comparison Rick, this will be very helpful to anyone contemplating buying an SE.5a kit.
Des.
Glad to be of help to others,( Hopefully) :D
RAGIII
I have built the WNW Kit and have another, along with the Roden Kit, in my Stash and will build both some day. I've compared them closely and my findings agree with Ricks; the Roden effort is a very nice Kit however the Wingnut version is better overall. Nice progress Rick, keep hammering away and I look forward to the rollout of your finished project.
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance I appreciate your comments and good to know others agree with my observations!
RAGIII
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A small update:
I have finished drilling most of the holes for rigging. I also added some wrinkles to the fabric using my method involving Delta Ceramicoat Acrylic paint. Finally I have primed the model in Tamiya Medium grey.
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/266/18807364338_9da8768461_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uDWEbo)se5 026_crop (https://flic.kr/p/uDWEbo) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/267/18807327320_752d8f7b8e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uDWtb9)se5 029 (https://flic.kr/p/uDWtb9) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/457/18374361443_2274b246fa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tZFpve)se5 022_crop (https://flic.kr/p/tZFpve) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
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Looks fantastic, Rick! I love how the wrinkles turned out. Gotta get myself of that Ceramcoat.
Cheers,
Bud
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Coming together very nicely, Rick. Nice wrinkles on the fabric,.... er, .....um, fabric on the wrinkles.............., Oh Hell, nice "puckers"!! :D Looks every bit as good as the WNW moulded version. Great update.
Cheers,
Lance
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Very great work Rick.
Martin
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Coming together very nicely.
James
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She is looking so nice Rick my friend. You are certainly doing another great job here. This was my first ever build ( but WnW) and it brings back memories!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Excellent work Rick, I really like the wrinkles you added, they look every bit as good as theWingnuts efforts.
Des.
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A brilliant job, RAG III.
It is turning out spectacular.
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This is looking so good, Rick! I can't wait to see the next updates.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Excellent work, Rick. As Des mentioned, the wrinkles are
beautifully done...a nice personal touch. With your attention
to detail this SE5 is destined to be a winner. Well done my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Beautiful work all around and those wrinkles look very realistic.
Drew
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Looks fantastic, Rick! I love how the wrinkles turned out. Gotta get myself of that Ceramcoat.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Coming together very nicely, Rick. Nice wrinkles on the fabric,.... er, .....um, fabric on the wrinkles.............., Oh Hell, nice "puckers"!! :D Looks every bit as good as the WNW moulded version. Great update.
Cheers,
Lance
Lance,
Your comments are greatly appreciated. My goal was to have a few wrinkles more subtle than the WNW molded version.
RAGIII
Very great work Rick.
Martin
Martin,
Thanks for following along and your comment!
RAGIII
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Coming together very nicely.
James
Thanks James. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
She is looking so nice Rick my friend. You are certainly doing another great job here. This was my first ever build ( but WnW) and it brings back memories!
Kind regards
Patrick
As always thank you my friend!
RAGIII
Excellent work Rick, I really like the wrinkles you added, they look every bit as good as theWingnuts efforts.
Des.
Thanks Des. I always appreciate you looking in on my builds!
RAGIII
A brilliant job, RAG III.
It is turning out spectacular.
Thanks for the comments and following along!
RAGIII
This is looking so good, Rick! I can't wait to see the next updates.
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Nigel. Hopefully progress will be faster now that the rigging holes are drilled!
RAGIII
Excellent work, Rick. As Des mentioned, the wrinkles are
beautifully done...a nice personal touch. With your attention
to detail this SE5 is destined to be a winner. Well done my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie,
Your continued support is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the comments.
RAGIII
Beautiful work all around and those wrinkles look very realistic.
Drew
Thank you Drew, your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
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Nice effect Rick, and a very smooth primer coat.
All set for the artist to add in the colours next.
Keep the momentum going,
Best wishes,
Dave :)
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Nice effect Rick, and a very smooth primer coat.
All set for the artist to add in the colours next.
Keep the momentum going,
Best wishes,
Dave :)
Thanks Dave! As for the color, my original plan was to use Aviattic PC 10 on the upper surfaces of the wings and on the fuselage. I sort of messed up in that I should have made patterns for the fuselage BEFORE I went this far. I am now debating if I should use the Fabric decals on the wings and paint the fuselage fabric areas or just saving the Aviattic stuff for a Pup or the WNW SE? I am also looking for input on rib tapes. I have a set by Archer but it appears to me that I would need 3 more, pretty costly and not sure of a good FAST source in the US? conversely I thought HGW made some rib tapes but all I find is lozenge strips? I may also just use paint or decal strips to build up/indicate the tapes. Finally I also thought about Bobs Strippers but think I negated that option by priming. So any suggestions are appreciated.
RAGIII
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Nice effect Rick, and a very smooth primer coat.
All set for the artist to add in the colours next.
Keep the momentum going,
Best wishes,
Dave :)
Thanks Dave! As for the color, my original plan was to use Aviattic PC 10 on the upper surfaces of the wings and on the fuselage. I sort of messed up in that I should have made patterns for the fuselage BEFORE I went this far. I am now debating if I should use the Fabric decals on the wings and paint the fuselage fabric areas or just saving the Aviattic stuff for a Pup or the WNW SE? I am also looking for input on rib tapes. I have a set by Archer but it appears to me that I would need 3 more, pretty costly and not sure of a good FAST source in the US? conversely I thought HGW made some rib tapes but all I find is lozenge strips? I may also just use paint or decal strips to build up/indicate the tapes. Finally I also thought about Bobs Strippers but think I negated that option by priming. So any suggestions are appreciated.
RAGIII
Looking good, Suggestion; try the clear doped linen tapes from the WNW Roland D VI kit first then paint or PC10 decal over...
Ed
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Nice effect Rick, and a very smooth primer coat.
All set for the artist to add in the colours next.
Keep the momentum going,
Best wishes,
Dave :)
Thanks Dave! As for the color, my original plan was to use Aviattic PC 10 on the upper surfaces of the wings and on the fuselage. I sort of messed up in that I should have made patterns for the fuselage BEFORE I went this far. I am now debating if I should use the Fabric decals on the wings and paint the fuselage fabric areas or just saving the Aviattic stuff for a Pup or the WNW SE? I am also looking for input on rib tapes. I have a set by Archer but it appears to me that I would need 3 more, pretty costly and not sure of a good FAST source in the US? conversely I thought HGW made some rib tapes but all I find is lozenge strips? I may also just use paint or decal strips to build up/indicate the tapes. Finally I also thought about Bobs Strippers but think I negated that option by priming. So any suggestions are appreciated.
RAGIII
Looking good, Suggestion; try the clear doped linen tapes from the WNW Roland D VI kit first then paint or PC10 decal over...
Ed
Thanks Amigo! I appreciate the suggestion for the rib tapes also! I think I have an option figured out. Working third shift this week and then VACATION for a week. I hope to do a lot next week.
RAGIII
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I'm late stumbling across your update Rick, but it looks terrific. I have been in a fallow period with respect to modeling, but you are inspiring me to get back to it!
Chris
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I'm late stumbling across your update Rick, but it looks terrific. I have been in a fallow period with respect to modeling, but you are inspiring me to get back to it!
Chris
Thanks Chris, glad to have you along! I haven't touched a model since the last update as I have been covering a vacation on third shift. I am now on vacation this week and hope to get a lot accomplished.
RAGIII
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Enjoy your time off, Rick my friend! I'm looking forward to seeing
what surprises you have in store for us with the SE5 as work
resumes. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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A small update. I have decided to use decal strips for the rib tapes. After application I added some simulated nail heads. This process takes longer than I thought, about 2 1/2 hours on the upper wing.
RAGIII
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/269/19120776660_7f66717634_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/v8CYK7)se5a 006 (https://flic.kr/p/v8CYK7) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3840/19302385092_7ac6808eb0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vpFLAY)se5a 007 (https://flic.kr/p/vpFLAY) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/356/19120722140_0ae241ced5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/v8CGx7)se5a 010_crop (https://flic.kr/p/v8CGx7) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
PS: The width of the tapes was based on the WNW SE5a.
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Very fine work on the ribs, Rick! I know just how tedious that can be, having done much the same thing on my Eduard Tripe. Whew!
Cheers,
Bud
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Rick,
What did you use for the nail heads? It certainly did the job.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely work on the ribs and nail heads Rick.
Des.
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Very fine work on the ribs, Rick! I know just how tedious that can be, having done much the same thing on my Eduard Tripe. Whew!
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud, I figure I only have about 6 or 7 more hours to go to finish the rib tapes ::)
RAGIII
Thanks also to Lance and Des! Lance, I used one of those wheels with points that my memory just can't recall the name of at this time. For fabric and leather work I think.
RAGIII
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Those should really look the part Rick once paint is applied . 8)
Terri
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Thanks Rick, I have several of them but, like you, can't remember what they are called! :-[
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi!
Can't wait to see what those rib tapes will look like under the paint.
Keep it up!
Ciao
Iwik
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Interesting. I wonder, what will be the final effect.
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This is so nice Rick my friend. Getting better and better! Keep up the great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Thanks Rick, I have several of them but, like you, can't remember what they are called! :-[
Cheers,
Lance
Are these the Archer rib tapes and stitching?
George
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Interesting. I wonder, what will be the final effect.
Przemol,
I am not sure that the small nail head impressions will be visible after a couple coats of sealer and paint. If not then just having the tapes is more than was there in the beginning :-\
RAGIII
Thanks Rick, I have several of them but, like you, can't remember what they are called! :-[
Cheers,
Lance
Are these the Archer rib tapes and stitching?
George
Geaorge,
Not Archer just decals... actually the rib tapes from my 1/24th scale Marcos Fokker DVII trimmed to width. The nail head effect is just my usual smoke and mirrors. I do have one set of Archers product but decided against them. The reason is that I figured I would need 3 or 4 more to do the wings on this one.. costly and would add wait time to the build.
RAGIII
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Those should really look the part Rick once paint is applied . 8)
Terri
Thanks Terri! I hope it works out well.
RAGIII
Hi!
Can't wait to see what those rib tapes will look like under the paint.
Keep it up!
Ciao
Iwik
Thanks Iwik. Like I said above the tapes will certainly be visible as an improvement over nothing. I wanted an effect that was just a bit more subtle than the WNW SE tapes. Hopefully it all will be good.
RAGIII
This is so nice Rick my friend. Getting better and better! Keep up the great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
Patrick my friend, I always appreciate you following my builds and your encouragement! I wonder what you and Ernie are cooking up to amaze us?
RAGIII
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Terrific work on the rib tapes, Rick! As you and Bud mentioned,
tedious work, but the result is so good! As for Patrick and my
present project, I am bound by the official secrets act...mon ami. ;) ;D
As always, I'm looking forward to your next update, Rick. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I believe the tool you are referring to is what is known as a 'pouncing wheel.' Intended use is for transferring paper designs to other materials by 'pouncing' through the paper.
(https://www.speedpress.com/ProdImages/t396-l.gif)
Anyway, nice work, Rick :)
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I believe the tool you are referring to is what is known as a 'pouncing wheel.' Intended use is for transferring paper designs to other materials by 'pouncing' through the paper.
(https://www.speedpress.com/ProdImages/t396-l.gif)
Anyway, nice work, Rick :)
Thanks for the reminder and photo Bo! I had actually remembered the "Pounce" part a little while ago ;D
RAGIII
Terrific work on the rib tapes, Rick! As you and Bud mentioned,
tedious work, but the result is so good! As for Patrick and my
present project, I am bound by the official secrets act...mon ami. ;) ;D
As always, I'm looking forward to your next update, Rick. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie. I am looking forward to whatever you and Patrick are up to 8)
RAGIII
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I believe the tool you are referring to is what is known as a 'pouncing wheel.' Intended use is for transferring paper designs to other materials by 'pouncing' through the paper.
(https://www.speedpress.com/ProdImages/t396-l.gif)
Anyway, nice work, Rick :)
To elaborate on what Bo has said: The "pouncing" refers to a small bag of usually white powder in a small porous cotton bag which is pounced, or pounded through small holes punched in a drawing attached to a panel, wall, or ceiling in order to transfer an image before painting. A pounce wheel is the tool used to make the holes. The original drawing is referred to as a "cartoon" and is the method Michaelangelo and his peers used to transfer their sketches to their final place to be painted. The modern use of the word "cartoon" comes from these rough sketches. Sorry for the history lesson. I studied painting and illustration, and now work in animation. I find it interesting how our modern terms evolved, even if we've now strayed well beyond their intended use. I'm sure Michaelangelo never envisioned using his tools to create rivets on model airplanes. ;D
Now back to modeling... Sorry for going off on my tangent. :o ;D
George
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I finally found mine, the After Market Model Tool versions are called, shockingly, "Riveting Tools", at least by RB Productions. They come in various "counts" and I've used one of them to do the Rivets on the Roden DR.1 cowling.
Cheers,
Lance
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Very great update, Rick.
Martin
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Riveting tool, hmmm. Yeah, I kinda over complicated it a bit... :-[ ;D
George
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Riveting tool, hmmm. Yeah, I kinda over complicated it a bit... :-[ ;D
George
Here you go.............from "Rosie the Riveter"
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_3912.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_3912.jpg.html)
and from Radzu at RB Productions (I like his stuff)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_3909.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_3909.jpg.html)
Sorry we got somewhat carried away here Rick!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very great update, Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin. Your comments are always appreciated.
RAGIII
Sorry we got somewhat carried away here Rick!
Cheers,
Lance
No problem Lance. It is good to know what is out there in the way of tools
RAGIII
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Another small update. I have put down the initial coat of PC 10. I plan to do some oversprays with various brownish greens to break up the monotone look.
RAGIII
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3719/19221579758_2746931c49_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vhxBZy)se5a 036 (https://flic.kr/p/vhxBZy) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3678/19221526710_427467353f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vhxmdW)se5a 008 (https://flic.kr/p/vhxmdW) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/303/18788487503_295547de5b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uCgUKH)se5a 032 (https://flic.kr/p/uCgUKH) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
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It looks beautiful, Rick.
Martin
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Looking good Rick!
Cheers,
Bob
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It looks beautiful, Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin. Still a lot of paint work to do to get it to my satisfaction :D
RAGIII
Looking good Rick!
Cheers,
Bob
Thanks Bob, I appreciate your looking in!
RAGIII
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Nice to see some covering paint on it Rick. Is that a
solid colour or a mixture? The rib tape nails show up
pretty well. :D Nice update my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Nice to see some covering paint on it Rick. Is that a
solid colour or a mixture? The rib tape nails show up
pretty well. :D Nice update my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie! The initial paint coat is a Mixture of Tamiya Khaki and Khaki Drab.
RAGIII
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I like it very much Rick, well done my friend. Looking better every step you make!
Kind regards
Patrick
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I really like the PC10 you've chosen, Amigo, and the rib tapes look great under the paint.
Cheers,
Bud
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I like it very much Rick, well done my friend. Looking better every step you make!
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick! I always appreciate your support.
RAGIII
I really like the PC10 you've chosen, Amigo, and the rib tapes look great under the paint.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud! I am pleased with the tapes and the color is OK, but I feel it needs some tweaking.... we shall see 8)
RAGIII
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I added an overspray of a darker color. This time a little more Khaki Drab in the mixture. It is hard, to impossible to see the contrasts with my lousy pictures. I tried out side natural light and just can't seem to pick up the contrast in colors. I guess you will just have to trust me ::)
RAGIII
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/302/19540229391_0d870f90cb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vLGMqK)se5aout 008 (https://flic.kr/p/vLGMqK) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/301/19509839306_4a186262f0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vJ22vL)se5aout 009 (https://flic.kr/p/vJ22vL) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/295/19509798946_2d01ca7e51_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vJ1PvU)se5aout 012 (https://flic.kr/p/vJ1PvU) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/318/19349389319_23f9434e85_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vtQFjF)se5aout 014 (https://flic.kr/p/vtQFjF) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/374/19349334599_ff8e38d76c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vtQp4e)se5aout 021 (https://flic.kr/p/vtQp4e) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/449/19349321999_59316b4978_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vtQkiZ)se5aout 022 (https://flic.kr/p/vtQkiZ) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
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Actually Rick , it shows up enough that it does show . Looks pretty damn good !
Terri
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I can see it, Rick! Great job, amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
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Wonderful painting Rick.
Martin
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Thanks Terri,Bud and Martin, Your comments are appreciated!
A small update: Gloss coat to the upper surfaces. I applied the "G" decal and then oversprayed with Khaki.
RAGIII
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/545/19568108981_0a2e1a423d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vPaF4k)se5a 013 (https://flic.kr/p/vPaF4k) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/426/19557006902_41650b4a8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vNbLNb)se5a 016 (https://flic.kr/p/vNbLNb) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/436/19376909508_4e9f1d2efb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwgJ7G)se5a2 006 (https://flic.kr/p/vwgJ7G) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/427/19569103451_97d8483e34_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vPfLFn)se5a2 010 (https://flic.kr/p/vPfLFn) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/411/18944007763_de49571be1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uS1Zvv)se5a2 003 (https://flic.kr/p/uS1Zvv) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
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Looking really good, Rick!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Man, oh man! Just keeps gettin' better 'n' better, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
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Nice work Rick,
The machine at Hendon looked pretty dark last time I saw it. Darker than I was expecting.
Of course the whole PC10 colour varies a fair bit anyway, and after a century, the colour on the museum machine may have oxidised and changed. Don't know if the colour on the Hendon machine is original or a restoration though.
Keep up the good work.
Best wishes,
Dave :)
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The overspray is a nice (and difficult at times) touch, Rick. Looks perfect; "gone but still there" as it should be. Well done, She's coming along beautifully!
Cheers,
Lance
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She comes along very beautiful Rick.
Martin
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Looking really good, Rick!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thanks Ernie!
RAGIII
Man, oh man! Just keeps gettin' better 'n' better, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo as always your comments are appreciated.
RAGIII
Nice work Rick,
The machine at Hendon looked pretty dark last time I saw it. Darker than I was expecting.
Of course the whole PC10 colour varies a fair bit anyway, and after a century, the colour on the museum machine may have oxidised and changed. Don't know if the colour on the Hendon machine is original or a restoration though.
Keep up the good work.
Best wishes,
Dave :)
Dave, Thanks for your comments, they are appreciated! As for the color, I am struggling to take a photo that truly shows the tones and color. My aircraft is not anywhere near as dark and brown as it looks in the photos! I have tried Natural light and my usual light set up indoors. The color is actually a brownish green with highlights and shadows created by mixing Tamiya Khaki Drab and Khaki. It is interesting in that in certain lighting it looks more green to the naked eye and other times more brown. To me that is how it should be :-X
The G on the upper surface is much more visible than it looks in the photo although to me it is properly covered 8) A funny thing is that I really like the RE8 color being built by Danny. I actually bought Tamiya XF62 and when I tested it the results just seemed too dark and too green for my taste...go figure 8)
RAGIII
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The overspray is a nice (and difficult at times) touch, Rick. Looks perfect; "gone but still there" as it should be. Well done, She's coming along beautifully!
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance, I appreciate your comments and your following of my build!
RAGIII
She comes along very beautiful Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin!
RAGIII
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I went a little further today:
RAGIII
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/290/19590750005_d54e232b05_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vRaHrP)003 (https://flic.kr/p/vRaHrP) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/561/18969816353_f1c3893d1d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uUigvc)005 (https://flic.kr/p/uUigvc) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/285/19402731548_5ecfb05317_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vyy57h)006 (https://flic.kr/p/vyy57h) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/326/19583801412_5818c3a8ec_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vQy6Su)007 (https://flic.kr/p/vQy6Su) by Richard Geisler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128992082@N04/), on Flickr
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Well Amigo, I think you've got it !!!!
Ed
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Well Amigo, I think you've got it !!!!
Ed
Thanks Amigo. Still not great photos but they do show the color a little better.
RAGIII
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I'm arriving fashionably late at the party....looking really good, Rick! I think the oversprays worked out really well for the PC-10.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Colours come near the original in the RAF Museum, Rick. Great!
Martin
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I'm arriving fashionably late at the party....looking really good, Rick! I think the oversprays worked out really well for the PC-10.
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Michael, I am glad you dropped in! Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
Colours come near the original in the RAF Museum, Rick. Great!
Martin
Martin, I am glad to hear that the colors look close to the RAF museum!
RAGIII
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Looks great, Rick. I do love the "missing G". That's tough to achieve.
I also like your new quote (for me, anyway) on the bottom.
My dad used to say "Take off the flash" all the time. Words to live by! ;) ;)
Cheers,
Dan
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Thanks for the comment! I am adding a couple of the previously posted pictures using photo bucket instead of Flickr. I have been wondering why the photos are not enlarging and just want to see if PB is any different:
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/005_zpsc7k49nfm.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/005_zpsc7k49nfm.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/004_zpsp9x9foex.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/004_zpsp9x9foex.jpg.html)
PS: The photos on Photobucket do enlarge so something with Flickr I imagine ???
RAGIII
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Very good update, Rick.
Martin
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Hi Rick!!!
I've been of the air for while so Im just catching up - definitely love your PC10 treatment. Looking forward for more ;)
Cheerio Lukas
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Looks great, Rick. I do love the "missing G". That's tough to achieve.
I also like your new quote (for me, anyway) on the bottom.
My dad used to say "Take off the flash" all the time. Words to live by! ;) ;)
Cheers,
Dan
Dan, Thanks for the comment! I appreciate your looking in!
RAGIII
Hi Rick!!!
I've been of the air for while so Im just catching up - definitely love your PC10 treatment. Looking forward for more ;)
Cheerio Lukas
Thanks Lukas, your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
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Hello Rick,
Your colour is magnificent. Just how I would have liked to do it! Getting better and better my friend, well done!
Kind regards
Patrick
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shes coming along very nicely rick, excellent paint work,and great just upgrading the roden kit to bring nice detail to the build. overall really sweet build my friend
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Hello Rick,
Your colour is magnificent. Just how I would have liked to do it! Getting better and better my friend, well done!
Kind regards
Patrick
Patrick,
As always I appreciate your comments and support!
RAGIII
shes coming along very nicely rick, excellent paint work,and great just upgrading the roden kit to bring nice detail to the build. overall really sweet build my friend
Thanks for the encouraging words! I greatly appreciate you looking in on my build!
RAGIII
I have a question about Dot Matrix Weathering. Is there a topic in Hints and Tips? If not what oil colors are used and does it vary depending on the base coloRAGIIIr?
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Beautiful work. Really inspiring.
James
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Yep....first rate. To quote that golf slogan; These guys are good!
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Beautiful work. Really inspiring.
James
Thanks James! Your Comment is greatly appreciated!
Yep....first rate. To quote that golf slogan; These guys are good!
Thanks Doug, glad to have you watching!
RAGIII
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Rick,
Another outstanding project my old friend. All the work you've done here have certainly payed off in spades. Well Done and I'm looking forward to the next update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Rick,
Another outstanding project my old friend. All the work you've done here have certainly payed off in spades. Well Done and I'm looking forward to the next update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Gregory,
Thanks for taking the time to catch up on my SE build! Your comments are greatly appreciated! Great to have you back!!!!!
RAGIII
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I finally have an update worth posting! First let me say that this kit is excellent. The PE is terrific and what I am about to say is due to my INCOMPETENCE!
I painted the struts using the usual techniques ,oils over acrylic. I then began to use the PE (parts 53 and 54), this is the part with that nice rigging attachment that goes on each interplane strut end. I had attached several when I dropped one... or should I say sacrificed to the Carpet Gods! Looked on and off for days but no Joy! So, I ripped off those already installed. This left the ends of the struts with little detail as I had sanded off the molded on stuff! So I painted the ends black and went on. I installed the struts on the wings and fuselage and began to fit the upper wing. I ended up getting the interplanes in place then as they were able to be pushed forward or backward to a degree this allowed me to mount the cabanes. This sounds easier than I made the process :-\ I used a lot of glue both liquid styrene and super varieties. So now the upper wing is mounted and I have some real work to do on removing some glue blotches and touch up painting. I am posting some photos but it should be noted that the "Apparent" odd angle of the right Interplane struts is an Illusion created by the angle of the shot.
RAGIII
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/se5%20036_zpsqavxgxun.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/se5%20036_zpsqavxgxun.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/se5%20039_zpsn7itt4k7.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/se5%20039_zpsn7itt4k7.jpg.html)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/se5%20040_zpspchsr5mo.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/se5%20040_zpspchsr5mo.jpg.html)
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Really looking the part now Rick, the wings and struts look excellent, sorry to hear that the carpet monster devoured one of your parts. Looking forward to seeing more updates.
Des.
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Rick you have a very beautiful job done. Exellent painting.
Cheers
Martin
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Ah! Nice to see it become a bi-plane! Despite the sacrifice to the
carpet gods, you are progressing really well. Good work, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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It's looking really great. I especially like your CDL on the undersides of the wings!
George
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Really looking the part now Rick, the wings and struts look excellent, sorry to hear that the carpet monster devoured one of your parts. Looking forward to seeing more updates.
Des.
Thanks Des, I appreciate you looking in! Also thanks to Martin, Justin, Ernie, and George. Your encouraging comments are also greatly appreciated!
The reality here is that this one came very close to being posted in the Hall of Shame Section! There were several times it almost flew :o
As things are going I am now building more of a slightly enhanced Roden kit than the Encore version :-[
On a positive note I am Happy with the rib tapes, CDL, and PC 10!
RAGIII
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Rick,
Excellent update my old friend. Are any of the resin updates included with the Encore kit available as separate up grades? I'm interested in the resin pulley inspection panels.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hi Rick:
Just catching up a bit on your build. This is great work you are doing. I have this kit and want to do it in Mannock's markings. I like the CDL on the undersides. Looks the business alright.
Best
Mark
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Great progress, Rick, she is shaping up very nicely. Thumbs up!
Cheers
Ondra
P.S.: If everything goes as expected I will join you with my S.E.5a. Hope you do not mind. ;)
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Gregory, Mark, and Ondra,
Thanks for your encouraging and positive comments! Gregory, I checked the squadron site and it seems the only resin available separately is the McCudden figure, decals and a bulged cockpit for the WNW kit.
RAGIII
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Rick,
Thanks for the information my old friend. I won't be modeling for awhile yet but after seeing what you've done with your Roden SE-5a makes me want to build up one of my Roden SE-5a somewhere down the line.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Great progress, Rick, she is shaping up very nicely. Thumbs up!
Cheers
Ondra
P.S.: If everything goes as expected I will join you with my S.E.5a. Hope you do not mind. ;)
Ondra,
I missed your comment about joining me with your SE5a. Not only do I not mind I am looking forward to seeing your skilled hands tackle an SE!
RAGIII
Rick,
Thanks for the information my old friend. I won't be modeling for awhile yet but after seeing what you've done with your Roden SE-5a makes me want to build up one of my Roden SE-5a somewhere down the line.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Gregory,
I am looking forward to, and praying for the day your talented hands return to the Bench!
RAGIII
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Im back from forests and glad to see that your SE shapping along nicely ;)
Cheerio
Lukas
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Im back from forests and glad to see that your SE shapping along nicely ;)
Cheerio
Lukas
Thanks Lukas. I greatly appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
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Thanks to all who have followed and supported my build! I am ashamed to admit that this one is now OFFICIALLY a Hall of Shame Model! I will stand by all of my statements about the fine quality of this kit! Any and all issues I have had were my own. From breaking resin parts, losing key PE parts, and finally the wing struts. I was getting ready to begin rigging and noticed that not only were the cabanes loose but I had blobs of glue that were really bad at all strut locations. I tried fixing but reached a point where removing the wing was necessary. I will go back someday perhaps, and use the white metal struts I have for the kit. Again thanks to all!
RAGIII
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oooh it was shaping so good, I'm sorry to hear that you are stopping it!
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Sorry to hear that Rick, I guess that this is a problem we all dealt with before... but lets be positive - what will be next? ;)
Lukas
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Sorry to hear that Rick, I guess that this is a problem we all dealt with before... but lets be positive - what will be next? ;)
Lukas
Next is a Dual WNW build. The Salmson 2A2(also the Aviattic USAS figures), and either a WNW Pfalz DIIIa ( Jasta 4 markings)or a WNW SE5a to be done in A.P.F. Rhys Davids markings ::)
RAGIII
PS: Also playing with a Revelle 1/28th Camel out of Box for my Grandsons room :D
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Sorry to hear the mistakes from you Rick. :o
But if it is possible, please make it ready! ;D
I have build an very fine model.
Cheers
Martin
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Thanks to all who have followed and supported my build! I am ashamed to admit that this one is now OFFICIALLY a Hall of Shame Model! I will stand by all of my statements about the fine quality of this kit! Any and all issues I have had were my own. From breaking resin parts, losing key PE parts, and finally the wing struts. I was getting ready to begin rigging and noticed that not only were the cabanes loose but I had blobs of glue that were really bad at all strut locations. I tried fixing but reached a point where removing the wing was necessary. I will go back someday perhaps, and use the white metal struts I have for the kit. Again thanks to all!
RAGIII
Discretion is the better part of Valor--we all these lurking somewhere--onward my friend !
Your Grandson will love the Camel (shorten the cabane struts to get the top wing flat)
Ed
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"or a WNW SE5a to be done in A.P.F. Rhys Davids markings"
Rick,
I recently purchased a second WNW "Hisso 5a" and it's destined to be done as yours, APF Rhys Davids' airframe. If that's your next project I'll be following it closely.
Sorry to hear you've shelved the Encore project, It was coming along very nicely.
Cheers,
Lance
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Rick,
It's sad news indeed about your SE-5a my old friend. I believe that most if not all of us have had a project underway that just appears to be snake bitten. Sometime in the future I hope you can revisit this project again and everything works out for you.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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we have all been there rick. i have enjoyed the build and like you say you can always mess with it later .my encore se5a is in similar condition and i just one day decided i was over it. one day i may go back.til then looking forward to your next build.
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Sorry to hear that the SE5 didn't pan out, Rick. As Scott mentioned
we have all been in that position. I am looking forward to your
next project, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Bad news, :(
I watched your progress with great interest, I believe that some day you will finish it. :)
Adam.
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Thanks Guys, I appreciate the Support! This will be my last post on this one. I have started work on the Salmson and will start a thread soon on the dual build!
RAGIII
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Sorry this one gave you such fits, amigo! I thought you were doing a brilliant job, but only you could know what a struggle it's been. I'm looking forward to your next project.
Cheers,
Bud
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Oh well...sigh,it's like painting yourself into a corner, we have all been there before,Move on to another kit with a spring in your step and some day when you feel up to it you can beat the bugger into shape and claim the final victory.