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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: lcarroll on November 02, 2014, 08:36:17 AM
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This is my next Build, the Wingnut Wings DH2 in the colours of British Ace and VC Winner Major Lanoe G. Hawker, CO of the first DH2 Squadron on the Western Front. Hawker was shot down and killed in this machine in an epic dogfight with Ltn. Manfred von Richthofen on 23 November 1916. He was the 11th victim of the Red Baron's eventual 80 Kills. These are some quick Work Bench Photos to open the Build Log.
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The Kit is up to the usual Wingnut Wings high quality standard however it does have a bit more flash on some of the moldings then I've seen in the past.
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The decal Sheet has the tail numbers for Tidmarsh's 5924, actually corrected to 5929 and, by inverting the spare letter 9 supplied and removing the 2, I can change it to Hawkers' Tail # 5964.
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I have three references for the Build in addition to the WNW Photo Gallery as shown. The Albatros Publications Datafile #48, Osprey's "Pusher Aces of WWI, and also their DH2 vs. Albatros DI/DII volume.
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The colour scheme is represented in the Pusher Aces book and shows the later PC10 and CDL Scheme that replaced the grey metal and CDL scheme in late 1916.
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Finally I'll be using a few After market items on the project. Pictured are the usual Aeroclub Instrument Bezels, Eduard's PE Stitching, and HGW Belts left over from a previous project. They are actually for the Sopwith Tripe however match the wide leather and fabric lap belt used on the DH2.
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Not shown (still in the mail) are the Taurus Gnome Monosoupape 100HP engine and the Gas Patch Mk II Lewis Gun that will be added. The engine, from the comments I've read here, will be a project of it's own! :-\
I'm very much looking forward to this Build; hopefully there's enough good Single Malt in the area to get me through the rigging exercise! I've already studied the Guide on von Buckle's Website.
Cheers,
Lance
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Excellent choice of subject Lance, your skills and expertise will see you get through this model with relative ease, the rigging, although daunting, is not as bad as it looks. I followed the rigging guide that you have and found no real issues at all. I'm looking forward to seeing you start on this one, the Taurus engine is a kit in its own right and being on the DH.2 it will be in full view, very worthy of such an excellent engine.
Des.
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Looks like fun!
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Excellent Lance! This one is next on my list as well, after Goring's D.VII. I have a Corgi painted figure of Maj. Hawker in full flying kit, so I will be doing his aircraft as well. ;D
I recall an extensive thread regarding a Rise of Flight skin of this particular machine, which involved review of the No. 24 Squadron archives, and which ultimately concluded that the entire nacelle had been overpainted with PC-10 by the time of the Richthofen duel on November 23, 1916. I can't locate that thread now, but here is the final result:
http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=307&t=11950
I guess we can't really be certain. ::) Have fun with this one. I'll go to school on your build log. ;D
Cheers,
Bob
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Lance I will watch your build.
Martin
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Great choice, Lance. I'm really looking forward to following your build.
Best wishes
Nigel
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I'm looking forward to this, Lance!
Chris
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Brilliant choice, Lance! I'm planning on doing this very same ship in 1/48 scale, so I will be following along very closely.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks for the encouragement Guys. Bob, special Thanks for the Link and the info on the Scheme. I don't give Osprey nearly the credibility that I do, for example, Albatros Publications, but Mr. Harry Dempsey, who did all the profiles in this case is normally, in my eyes, a very credible source. I'd prefer the "mix" of CDL and PC-10 however if anyone has more info please join in. There appear to have been many schemes; the early CDL and grey metal surfaces, PC10 and CDL on the nacelle with PC10 and Cdl wings, and the all PC10 nacelle scheme. Just another riddle! :-\ :o
Cheers,
Lance
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Hey, Lance, after reading your last post, I feel the need to chime in in support of Bob on the scheme. I have the greatest respect for Harry Dempsey and the Osprey series, but I have found their schemes to be flawed on a number of occasions. Here's a link to Russel Smith's rendition.
http://www.russellsmithart.com/Small%20pages/Hector.html
Russ is extraordinarily thorough in his research, so I'm inclined to go with this version, but I also agree with you that the PC10 and grey look very cool together and, after all, it is your model to build as you like. Which ever choice you make, I know the end result will be a truly fabulous model, finished to your usual high standards. Just my 2 cents. I'll shut up now.
Cheers,
Bud
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Oh WOW! Perfect choice, Lance. :D I have a WnW version as yours haunting me
in the corner and I am trying to ignore it for fear of ending up trapped in
a spider web of rigging. With you leading the way, I feel much better already! ;D
Looking forward to following your build, my friend. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Good luck, Lance!
I'll be in the wings watching your progress ;)
Cheers,
BVB
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It sure didn't take you long to get stuck into another build Lance. You could hardly have cleared your bench from the D.VII. That's a spot of good luck in that you can rework those serial numbers to fit your subject. I'm looking forward to following your progress on this Lance, and although it's early on, the WWI PE stitching intrigues me. Who knew there was stuff like this available? Certainly not me, but I don't get out from under this rock very much. :P
I'll slow down on my Salmson (if that's even possible) to give you the opportunity to break a good trail for me. ;)
Cheers,
Chris
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the WWI PE stitching intrigues me. Who knew there was stuff like this available? Certainly not me
Cheers,
Chris
Chris,
There is also 1/32 WWI resin stitching on clear decal paper from Archer Fine Transfers. ;D. You need to get out more often. ;)
Cheers,
Bob
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Good call, Lance, and all the best of good luck with this build. Chris, Mark and I will stand by to ship you a couple of cases of "good Single Malt" when comes time for the rigging...just in case you run out! ;D
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Chris,
There is also 1/32 WWI resin stitching on clear decal paper from Archer Fine Transfers. ;D. You need to get out more often. ;)
Cheers,
Bob
Now that sounds like more my speed. I'm thinking of their inherent flexibility and ease of use. I'll wander over and check out their aviation section. Thanks for that tip Bob. I shall now pull that rock back over my head. ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Following as well - I'm delighted to see someone tackling Hawker's machine,
and I know in your hands it'll be a good one. I will look and learn!
Mark
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Ernie, von Buckle, Chris and Gary, your positive encouragements and comments as always much appreciated. :) :)
Bob and Bud, thanks so much for taking the time to provide additional info on Hawker's colour scheme. Your inputs have more or less settled the matter for me as, if nothing else, I totally admire Russell Smith's work and reputation for research which is second to none and the Rise of Flight crowd are no bunch of amateurs either!. I'll probably switch to another 24 Squadron subject, Tail Number 6011, which is one of the Profiles offered in the Datafile and is supported by photos there as well. It has the nacelle painted in light grey with the fabric side panels in PC10 and upper flying surfaces as well. The undersides of the latter are CDL. My reasoning is simple; another all PC10 aircraft when there are more varied finishes available doesn't appeal to me.
This is a good example of how great a resource and enjoyable an experience this Forum is. The wealth of information, informed perspective, and particularly the manner in which it is offered is invaluable. Thanks Guys, you've saved me from yet another potential attack of "AMS"! ;)
Time to start mixing paint for the interior.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Guys, you've saved me from yet another potential attack of "AMS"! ;)
Ummm . . . don't look now Lance, but that ship sailed a longggg time ago. ;D
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: 1/32 WWI resin stitching on clear decal paper from Archer Fine Transfers.....
I've not used it but I am in the process of using weld beads from Archer and it is uncanny to me how well they work. Fully 3-D without being over done and, indeed, flexible. I would think the stitching would be similar.
Looking forward to the build!
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Brilliant. This one is the next to be built and will be watched very very closely. Prepare yourself for a bunch of questions, as I have very limited knowledge on british a/c design.
Are you going to use the kit's engine, or will you show off with Taurus' replacement part kit?
Stefan
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this one is going to be interesting :) I will keep an eye on you and take notes
Best regards,
Sasho
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Mark,
Looks like I'll have to change the title of this as I'm probably switching subjects to a different aircraft of 24 Squadron to use the more varied colour scheme. I've done a little more reading on the subject and apparently Hawker was a last minute replacement for the fatal mission; he flew which ever aircraft was available and, in this case, it was indeed 5964 which, as we've seen, was overall PC10 with CDL undersurfaces.
Chris,
How can I refute your logic on this !?? :-[
Sasho, Stefan,
Thanks for your comments and interest. I have the Taurus engine on order and hopefully will be able to manage it, looks from the comments in other Build Logs here to be quite a challenge!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, I'm sorry if I caused you to change schemes. How about option B, Cowan's ship. Looks pretty cool with PC8 and grey, red and white struts and the 24 Sqn. saw tooth belly.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Don't feel you owe an apology for the scheme change, on the contrary I'm really glad the info came to light before I completed (or even really started) this one. The 6011 I mentioned as a probable replacement fits the bill nicely, I've got the profile and photos from a very credible source, Albatros Pubs data File # 48 and it's got Grey, PC10, and CDL in it's finish. Also the Flight Colours on the outer struts and wheel covers, Blue in this case. As I said earlier another all PC10 bird for the display case didn't appeal a great deal given I've got a Snipe, a second SE5a, and the "Christmas Release" WNW Camel ;) to add! This one will provide a little contrast to the line up.
Cheers,
Lance
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Two thoughts, Lance.....
Please...if Bud is willing to apologize, let him do so. I've met the man in person and he needs to learn humility. An apology is a big step for him.
Secondly, do you know something the rest of us don't re: Santa delivering WnWs Camels? Did I miss a big post?
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Hi gents! I'll throw more fuel on the fire Lance. ;) You could always do Hawker's machine from an earlier period, before July 1916, when I understand most of 24 Squadron's machines were painted overall PC-10. I found that thread I referenced before on the development of the ROF skin for Hawker's DH-2. It is interesting to watch the development of the artwork for this one, as people chimed in with further research. There are some beautiful shots of the DH-2 from different angles as well. Check this out, and make sure you follow the progression, which goes on for something like 8 pages or so:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3046251/1
More food for thought. :D I love this stuff!
Cheers.
Bob
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Two thoughts, Lance.....
Please...if Bud is willing to apologize, let him do so. I've met the man in person and he needs to learn humility. An apology is a big step for him.
Secondly, do you know something the rest of us don't re: Santa delivering WnWs Camels? Did I miss a big post?
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Michael,
Bud gets a free pass on the apology for now, he coached me through the post-shading technique last ear and I owe him! As for the Camel, it's strictly wishful thinking and positive reinforcement of my latest, but long lasting, fantasy! It's got to happen at some point, surely???
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Bob, that's a whole lot more good info. There are certainly a lot of potential colour and markings schemes available. One of the key points seems to be whether the PC10 paint directed in July of 16 got applied to the upper nacelles in addition to the flying surfaces or not. From reading all the References and the ROF debate it appears that 24 Squadrons A Flight painted the entire nacelle PC10, B Flight had some (or all? nacelles left with grey metal components and PC10 fabric sides, and C Flight.......were not sure.
There are so many contradictions: The WNW Plan Book leaves a choice of natural wood or grey paint finish for the wood components and frame of the nacelle, the Data File states that DH2's had their wood nacelle parts and frame painted "Battleship Grey" before they left the factory. I'm going with the wood finish.
I love this stuff too, however at some point I'm going to have to make a choice, be prepared to defend it, and "get her done!" Mind you I often say that the research is as much or more fun then the Build.
Cheers,
Lance
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Really looking forward on this on Lance . The DH-2 is one we don't see very many build logs of so this will be a treat :)
Terri
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Well Lance I am a Little Late to the party but I am Looking forward to your build as much as the others. ( My only wish would be that you were tackling the Roden kit to show me the way with mine ;D ) As for that Camel, I am certain it will come as a Dual/Duelist release with the DR1 before Christmas ::)
RAGIII
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As for that Camel, I am certain it will come as a Dual/Duelist release with the DR1 before Christmas ::)
Haha.
Lance,
Whatever a/c you decide to build in the end, it will be interesting to watch. And you are absolutely right - research is sometimes more fun than the build itself.
Stefan
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Hi Lance:
Isn't it something when the facts get in the way of modeling. I swear they did that to confuse the modeler. Anyway, I will be watching as you go through this build especially your take on the motor. I agree, another all PC10 A/C, although having such a small fuselage, it really isn't all PC10 escpecailly with the CDL wings for contrast. Looking forward to see how this shapes up and your comments regarding the build.
Best
Mark
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Thanks Terri, Rick, Stefan and Mark. I think I've got the choice of markings pretty well made, I will go with 6011 from the same Squadron, but B Flight with the blue trim. It has grey on the metal portions of the nacelle, PC10 on the fabric and upper flying surfaces with CDL lowers.
The wood portions are presently drying so the cockpit should be at the assembly stage very soon. I'm hoping that the engine and gun arrive very soon, as I don't want to get "stalled".
Cheers,
Lance
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Hello to all,
I got this box too so I'll follow you in this build.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Very good choice, great model, one of my favorite aircraft.
I wish you all success and will follow with great interest.
Best regards
Hristo
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Great to see a pusher being built. The rigging is relatively straightforward on this one, especially when compared with some other machines. In any event you will make an excellent job of it and I am really looking forward to following this build.
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You have my interest too. I have a half-completed Eduard 1:48 DH-2 in a box somewhere. My problem with that kit was getting the struts right and top wing on. Haven't given up, but if it is not recoverable I mY use it as a rigging test bed for the Wingnuts Wings kit. Iconic, historical aircraft and I need to complete one. Will be following your build with keen interest.
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Thanks All. Your interest and encouragement is very much appreciated. It's going along well, albeit slowly, and given the parts that are still in the mail system somewhere between here and Central Europe, and Greece, that's OK! I'll try for some photos today or tomorrow, the cockpit is coming together but still has a way to go to completion. I keep discovering the odd "thing" that needs to be added or improved; one step forward and a quick two backwards as is my usual pattern! ??? :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on this Lance. I'll build this kit myself one day, when I do I'll certainly know where to come for inspiration.
Tom
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Thank You Tom, although I'm just as likely to put a curse on this as magic. The rigging, which I normally enjoy, scares the hell out of me! :o :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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Finally, a real update with some work completed. So far, so good with no real problems or disasters. The Kit appears well engineered and goes together well however a lot of forethought and planning went into the sequence for cockpit assembly to ensure all got included. I believe I'm ready to close her up however will sleep on it and take a fresh inventory in the morning.
The wood was done with a 50/50 light wood base mix of Tamiya Wooden Deck tan and Desert Yellow with a Burnt Sienna Winsor Newton Oil grain treatment and Tamiya Clear Orange overcoat. I find it too dark and next time (this is my first real attempt using oil paints on the woodwork) I'll try Clear Yellow as the varnish overcoat. Before starting the internal bracing I replaced the spring portions of the Elevator Trim Control with scratch copper springs. Here's a before and after view, the anchors for the wires were tiny (#83 drill bit in photo) and too delicate to support tensioned mono, so EZ Line to the rescue!
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Here's the replacement springs before painting. (I thought I'd prove that I too have a giant match, a compliment to Bo!)
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......and the nacelle frame internal bracing.
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The instruments were framed with a mix of HGW and Aeroclub Bezils, given several coats of future for glass faces, and all copper lines on the frames painted with Mr. Metal Color Copper. I also added three more lines to the mix using copper wire, left in it's natural colour.
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.........and a shot of the kit supplied Pulseometers, a really nice little touch on WNW's part!
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The belts are HGW with some dry Pigment for wear and tear........ The wicker seat is very well done and worked well with a final wash of dark brown oil paint.
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Last, I removed the Lewis from it's mount in preparation for the Gaspatch version which will hopefully arrive very soon along with the Taurus engine. I added the cable to the height adjustment mechanism, it's barely visible in these photos. (to the left of the support in the first photo)
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and finally here's a posed shot of where she's going next. It's a surprisingly small subject which is also apparent when viewing the photos.
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Thus far a pleasure to work on, great quality as we've come to expect from an excellent Company!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking real fine there - lots of good stuff going on in that pit!
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Nice work Lance! The office looks great so far. ;D. This will be a fascinating build to follow.
Cheers,
Bob
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Great start Lance!
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Nice work Lance! The office looks great so far. ;D. This will be a fascinating build to follow.
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Agreed, agreed and agreed!
Chris
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Holy smoke, you're really making good time with this Lance. Everything you've done here is very impressive, especially when you see just how small it all is. No doubt about it, you're well on the way to yet another superb model.
Cheers,
Chris
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Excellent work on the innards, Lance! I love the springs.
Cheers,
Bud
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Neat stuff! Congratulations!
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Thank you all for your positive comments, they really are appreciated. I still haven't changed the title of this Build Thread but will do so soon, just have to confirm absolutely in my mind which scheme to choose. Meanwhile I'll get the nacelle closed up before committing to a basic paint scheme.
Cheers,
Lance
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Beautiful work, Lance! It is a busy cockpit and you have done a marvelous
job of it. What a treat for the eyes, my friend. Bring on the next installments. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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WOW! What an update! Beautiful interior work and quick too! Looking forward to your next update.
RAGIII
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Thank you for your detailed explanations.
Last, I removed the Lewis from it's mount in preparation for the Gaspatch version
Which version did you order? I have seen that Costas has quite a few Lewis guns in his store, but I have not enough knowledge to understand which one would be correct for that airplane...
Stefan
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Ernie, Rick, Thanks! The next update should hopefully not be long in coming.
Stefan, I ordered the Lewis Mk. II, Gaspatch SKU 13-32056 on their Website. It matches all the photos I have in the references and is also listed as the armament on the Wingnut Wings Plans Booklet cover. The Kit supplied gun is very nice but having bought a Gaspatch Vickers I thought I'd order their Lewis, the quality of their products is quite remarkable!
Cheers,
Lance
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Fantastic start on the pit Lance 8)
Terri
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Very good work Lance.
Martin
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Hello, Lance -
You really are off to a flying start here - amazed at your spring detail work - the cockpit and rigging is also first class.
Regards
Dave
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Looking fantastic so far Lance, nice job!
Tom
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Very neat cockpit, Lance! Beautiful work! :D
Grtz
Flip
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Terri, Martin, Dave, Tom & Flip,
It's most encouraging to receive compliments from folks with your demonstrated skills, Thanks for taking the time to look and to comment! 8)
Cheers,
Lance
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Looks really fine, Lance. Maybe that single malt might not be necessary. At least...not yet...! ;D
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Thanks Gary! I hope to get a small update done before my company arrives.
Cheers,
Lance
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Great work in the pit, Lance.
I'm Looking forward to more updates from you.
Cheers,
Bob
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Thanks Gary! I hope to get a small update done before my company arrives.
Cheers,
Lance
Looking forward to it. Dress warm, keep warm, and have a great time on "the stand!" ;D
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This is truly fantastic - I have missed a couple of updates and have just caught up. Wonderful work - first class as usual from you Lance.
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Just dropped in to see if you have made any progress and lo and behold you are well under way. What you have acheived so far is excellent, the fuselage frame bracing is extremely well done and all the fuselage bits and pieces have been very well painted and fitted, the seat is amazing, looking forward to following along with this awesome build.
Des.
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Lovely work, Lance. It will serve as an inspiration when I get around to my DH2.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Amazing how time flashes by as real world concerns get in the way of enjoying one's Hobby. I'm finally back at this, many Thanks for the recent comments and wonderfully positive and encouraging remarks!
First, a photo missed on my last entry, just the prop which is done in acrylic base, oil woodgrain, and Tamiya Clear Orange with a couple of coats of Valejo Clear Satin Varnish.
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The Nacelle seams (minimal) were filled with Tamiya White Putty and, once sanded, refilled, and sanded again, a base coat of Tamiya Gloss White was applied to all areas destined for Aviattic's CDL and/or PC10 Decals.
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Evergreen Styrene Strip was used to add the seam projection on the upper forward nacelle cowling. This feature is visible in many photos but is not included on the moldings.
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The nacelle upper metal areas were given a finish coat of Medium Grey (Fuel Tank cowling cover shown "posed")........
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This was followed by carefully trimmed fabric side panels of Aviatic Clear backing Light PC10 and application of the No. 24 Squadron "sawtooth" underside decal.
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The next step on finishing the nacelle will be some subtle shading or highlighting of the stitching.
I've got a good start on the application of PC 10 and CDL to the other surfaces, the CDL is particularly impressive. Having used Aviattic's Lozenge on several occasions there have been no surprises in the use of these new products; getting the very small "wrap under" PC10 portions done will be a challenge in the trimming stage.
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My Taurus Gnome Engine and Gas Patch Lewis arrived in the mail so it's all coming together.
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I'll now continue to work at the covering of all the flying surfaces and start the "separate model" of the Gnome Monosoupape 9, from what I've seen in other Builds here the latter is not exactly a cakewalk! Hopefully I can alternate between the two and keep my eyesight and sense of humour in good shape!
More to follow soon.........
Cheers,
Lance
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Superb progress, Lance :o
I'm lovin' it!
vB
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That nacelle is gorgeous, Lance! The Aviattic decals really look the business.
Cheers,
Bud
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Excellent work to date Lance, the Aviattic decals look superb.
Des.
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Excellent work, Lance. Evidently your recent time in the blind has not adversely affected your abilities. Good luck as you progress through the build! 8)
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Your build of this aircraft is awesomely good and inspiring. I've made three runs at the DH2, 1:72 and 1:48 Eduard kits. I had major issues with the struts alignment and attachment. However, knowing Wingnut Wings accuracy and engineering, I will bet this one will not have such problems. This one had bubbled put near the top of my list primarily due to your fine efforts. Keep,those photos coming. And, the Aviattic decals are amazingly effective. Wouldn't do this plane without them.
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Excellent update! This will show us Aviattic decals in all their glory ;)
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Superb work Lance and beautifully illustrated. The WNW DH2 is in my stash to do one day so your build is instructive and very helpful.
Kind regards
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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WOW! Those Aviattic covering decals look absolutely wonderful, and you've applied them splendidly Lance! I may ner paint another Empire aircraft again! ;D
I lok forward to seeing how you tackle the wrap-around strip on the wings. That looks to be the trickiest part, but maybe it's far more simple in practice than in concept. :D. That's what I'm hoping. Good luck!
Cheers,
Bob
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It seems I managed to miss a bit on your build :-[ Your use of the Aviattic decals looks Outstanding! I am going to use them on my next RFC subject, probably the SE5a so I am following your work with great interest! The fabric weave looks perfect! Your DH2 is a beauty to date!
RAGIII
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Great work - I would suggest you cut strips to simulate the "wraparound" on under surfaces / but I'm sure you'll achieve a great result, whichever method you choose!
Best wishes, Richard
Richard,
Thanks! I attempted to just "underwrap" the carefully measured and cut PC 10 onto the previously completed CDL under surfaces on the few portions done so far and I am not happy with the results. I had already commenced removal of the wrapped under portions and will be trying your suggestion of using thin strips. Having the white backed PC 10 Stock on hand may well save the day on this feature!
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks All for your votes of confidence, as always they are very much appreciated. My apologies for the delayed reply, the entire area here lost it's Internet connection just after I posted the update yesterday, seems the Fibre Optic Line that supplies North Eastern Alberta was accidentally cut and we were "in the dark" until this morning. Someone will be paying a big fine for their carelessness!
To this point it is progressing well however I'll feel less apprehension once the "wrap over" challenge is successfully resolved. The Aviattic Decals are very impressive, I am really pleased with the CDL and the "weave" pattern, which stands out a little more on the PC 10 stock, is very realistic. The side panels in PC 10 on the nacelle fabric areas look like real life and once some hi-lighting gets applied to the stitching will be, IMHO, unbeatable with a painted finish.
Now it's back to work on this and, now that I'm hooked back up to the Net and given the Taurus Instructions for the Gnome Monosoupape are on-line, I can start on that. It's amazing how very dependent we've become on the IT capabilities developed so recently.
Having toyed around with the Engine Kit a bit yesterday I wonder if my Optivisor 5 and 10 Lenses are up to it?!?! ;)
Cheers, :)
Lance
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I am sure you will solve the decal dilemma. The Aviattic decals are the best in their field for lozenge and fabric effect.
I am particularly interested in your experience with the Taurus engine kit. I have been tempted, both for the E-I and the DH2. I suspect the minuscule size of some of the parts may be a stumbling block for me. Besides, they aren't cheap.
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Exellent build Lance.
Martin
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I am sure you will solve the decal dilemma. The Aviattic decals are the best in their field for lozenge and fabric effect.
I am particularly interested in your experience with the Taurus engine kit. I have been tempted, both for the E-I and the DH2. I suspect the minuscule size of some of the parts may be a stumbling block for me. Besides, they aren't cheap.
Eindecker,
I agree with you on the engine price, I dragged my heels for a while before finally "biting"! Since the engine is fully exposed I wanted to get around the seams on the cylinders of the Kit version, I don't think they could ever be completely eliminated. On the other side of the equation like you, I'm no "Spring Chicken", and I'm more then a little apprehensive about the sub miniature parts; I wouldn't be surprised to end up using some Wingnut components or, Gawd forbid, reverting back to the kit engine!
Stay tuned for the next chapter of "The Elder Mr. Bean does the Gnome Monosoupape", lots of potential for humour and drama here!
Cheers,
Lance
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Ha! The Elder Mr. Bean. I turned 72 this month, so we are singing from the same book. I'm unloading the great majority of my other plastic models to concentrate on Wingnut Wings kits and increasing my ability to work with and sometimes make more faithful detail. I will be watching closely and learning all I can from your build of that engine. I too haven't figured out how to eliminate the cooling fins seam, if such a thing is possible…
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Hi Lance:
This is looking good. I like the looks of the PC10 on the side panels and the CDL looks mighty good. Good job Richard at Aviattic. When applying strips of lozenge on my Pfalz and two LVG's, I applied the upper surface first. Let the stuff wrap around without a real care as to eveness. Just enough to cover the edge. Then I did the underside. I carefully measured each piece to ensure sameness and applied the underside. This took care of the wrap around. Much easier to do than trying to gauge the proper distance and size of the wrap. Naturally, I experimented with paper to get the right the width. This worked well and the application could easily be used on the PC10/CDL as well.
Here is a picture of the completed underside. You can sort of see how the underside lozenge overlaps the upper to create an "even" underside wrap.
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Hope this helps.
The WNW rotary engines look pretty darn good. Best of luck with the Taurus engine. I will be following along. Hope you can get dug out too.
Best
Mark
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I like your method, Mark however I've already got all the CDL applied to the bottom surfaces. I didn't get back to this yesterday so later today I'll be trying the thin strips of white backed PC 10, hopefully it'll work. The Kit engine is very well done but as Eindecker points out the seams on the cooling fins are a real problem. Perhaps a combination approach will produce the perfect product, and with my talents to rival Mr. Bean himself, what could possibly go wrong?!??!!? ::) :-\
As for getting dug out, that will not be a quick fix!
Cheers,
Lance
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great work, look forward to seeing the next photos !!
ED
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Playing catch-up here Lance :-[, and I am completely
stunned by the wonderful work you are doing on the DH.
The Aviattic products speak for themselves, but you are
making magic with them, my friend. I am on the edge
of my seat waiting to see how you will conquer the wraparound
dilemma. I have no doubts that with your talents, it will not
be a problem for long. Excellent work, Lance!
Cheers, from a frozen
Ernie ;D
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You are doing a damn fine job on this Lance. Aided by Aviattic's decals of course. I think what you are doing looks great. I too will watch to see how you handle the overlap.
(I've one of these kits out the duelist kit begun and boxed up waiting for time...laughs)
Keith
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Cheers, from a frozen
Ernie
Thanks Ernie! And yes, it's bloody cold here as well, as we share the same general frozen waste location! Chill factor here is around minus 40 degrees C, and I'm still doing the snow removal a bit at a time and a long time to go! Any info on cheap land in Florida? :( :o ::)
Stay Warm & Cheers,
Lance
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Ed & Keith,
Progress is painfully slow, one piece at a time on the wrap-under. If I get at it I should be done by end day. From the numerous photos available it appears that the wrap -under was only done on the leading and tip edges of the main planes, none on ailerons , elevators, and trailing edges. Any contrary info out there or informed contrary opinion? It's a "B*%**&*h" since the original CDL overall birds can be easily confused with the top surface over-painted PC 10 ones, and so on. I'd say all but a few of the many photos of the latter I can identify have the main plane and horizontal Stab wrap-under only. :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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You made a terrific job on the nacelle Lance !
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How is the underwrapping going, Lance? Did you go with the white-backed
strips? Inquiring minds want to know. ;) ;D Looking forward to more
updates and I wonder if you combined the Optivisor Lenses with tape?... ;D
By the way, the dreaded Florida swamp-property looks pretty good right
now. ;) Onward and upward, my friend.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Finally time for a small workbench update, two weeks gone by in seemingly just a few days. With Christmas imminent time is at a premium!
The white backed Aviattic PC10 worked well for the "wrap under" on the main planes. I did not apply it to the horizontal Stab as none of the reference profiles nor photos showed it, in fact I'm second guessing whether the wings were done either??
All of the fabric areas have been done with Aviattic's PC10 and CDL, a long process but the results are quite impressive. I'm particularly pleased with the CDL, I don't believe one could produce a more realistic finish. Here's a quick workbench shot of the components, markings applied, and a coat of Future to seal it all. They'll be getting a shot of matt clear today and then some shading and weathering once dry. I still need to do some minor touch ups and paint the metal panels around the tail lattice boom connections before the over spray. All control surfaces were drilled and "pinned" with musical wire. The slightly discoloured area on the PC10 upper wing surface by the left aileron appeared after the drying period. It`s not air, rather I think I may have over-handled it on application and worn off some of the colour. I`m hoping to cover this `wart` enough during the shading and weathering process to render it near invisible.
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The majority of my efforts over the past two weeks have gone towards the Gnome Monosoupape 100 HP Engine. I must admit to struggling significantly with the Taurus Kit and, in the end having to compromise somewhat. Unfortunately the valve spring/lifters fret had several damaged parts however Lukasz at Taurus immediately dispatched a replacement and a few samples of his new oil pulseometers for my troubles. Outstanding service as always! As it turned out the tiny valve lifter levers and push rod connectors were beyond the capabilities of this 70 year old set of eyes and hands thus I chose to use the corresponding kit versions, slightly modified, and got the job done. This to me seemed a logical solution vs. jumping off the nearest tall bridge! The detail on the Taurus parts is extraordinary, and in the end my engine is all Taurus except for the spring and lifter assemblies.
The basic components along with the Kit bits during initial assembly:
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The finish was done with a combination of Alclad II, Mr. Metal Colour, and a few Model Master enamels with a wash of Winsor Newton Oil (Lampblack).
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After trying several different approaches to add the wiring harness I elected to drill the back end of the bakelight "race' and insert the plug wires (copper from old speaker wires) with CA, and then CA them to the tiny Taurus Plugs already installed.
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In a perfect world the slight bends in the plug wires looked horrible, until I looked at the photos of the engine in the Plans Booklet and saw that they are very slack and bent on the real thing. Bonus! :)
So, now it`s time to make all the gloss and clean finish look dull and worn, more to follow in a week or so.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, Many thanks for the detailed post. I have some CDL and PC decals from Aviattic saved for appropriate applications. Glad to know they are so effective. Thought as much from my D.VII experience. And, I very much appreciate the information on the Taurus engine assembly. I cannot decide if I am up to the effort and have the necessary skills to do it justice. Yours turned out extremely well. Would not haves even the "issues" you recounted if not for you doing so.
The DH2 is a favorite of mine and I am vicariously enjoying your build. Thanks!
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Hello to all,
What an accuracy engine !!! Amazing, I can smell nurned oil.
Best regards.
Alain.
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I'm watching this one closely Lance and as eindecker wrote, thanks for the detailed explanations. You're doing an excellent job breaking trail for me. Here's hoping you'll post more images of the CDL and PC decal coverings too! As someone who has little patience for resin, I like the way you've combined the best of the Taurus and kit parts to end up with a grimy, realistic looking engine. Looking forward to seeing this play out.
Cheers,
Chris
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Lance,
You're doing sterling work and all the more impressive with a set of 70 year old eyeballs :o Excellent!
Keep up the good work!
vB
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Excellent work so far Lance, I like the way you utilised the kit engine parts in conjuction with the Taurus engine kit, the engine turned out beautiful.
Des.
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Superb work, the rigging on the DH2 has always put me off, but your build is certainly inspiring.
Dave
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Outstanding update! The decal CDL and PC 10 is quite effective! I am certainly going to try the Aviattic products on My upcoming SE5a , especially after seeing your results! That engine is Spectacular, WELL DONE!
RAGIII
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Thanks All, as I've said before, encouragement and validation builds confidence! I'll get a few more quick shots of the Aviattic PC10/CDL components once I get a matt coat on them, the high gloss Future detracts from it's fabric appearance. As for the rigging, Dave, I too am somewhat intimidated by the prospect however I'll be leaning heavily on the Guide on von Buckle`s Web page. What could possibly go wrong ::) :o
Cheers,
Lance
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The engine looks near perfect - and i am eagerly awaiting updated photos of Aviattic's linen/fabric decals.
Stefan
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Excellent update, Lance! The PC10 and CDL coverings look
wonderful and will really add to an already amazing DH.
Your combination of Taurus and kit bits for the engine worked
a treat, along with a terrific job of weathering. Really
great job, my friend. :D Looking forward to seeing more!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hello Lance,
Sorry for the delay, I am catching up gradually. What a really nice DH2 you are doing! The interior is so eye-catching. And all the magnificent work you did will make it again a typical Lance-build, this means : wonderful! Well done!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Thanks Gents! I did a test shot of bottled lacquer Testors Dullcote on the horizontal Stab yesterday and it works fine, no ill effects on the future or decals. I hope to get a few light coats on all the fabric components today , let it dry over night, and start the shading and some weathering tomorrow. Hopefully things will speed up then, it's a slow build thus far.
Cheers,
Lance
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Another small progress report; after being away for over a week during the Holidays it's great to be back in familiar surroundings and "hands on" to all my toys. Not a great deal of progress but still moving in the right direction.
The components were airbrushed with two light coats of Testor's Dulcote lacquer and the post shading with chalk pastels completed. I used an approximate 50/50 mix of black and dark brown pastels sanded to powder form and then applied over Tamiya Tape with Q-Tips for the shading. Some buffing/blending was done with my standard "blue" shop towel material.
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Once the shading was completed a light coat of Vallejo's Polyurethane Satin Varnish (mixed a little less then 50/50 with their "Airbrush Thinner #71.161) was airbrushed to act as the final finish and sealer coat. This was my first try of the new product; I'm very pleased with the results and highly recommend it. Easy to use, easy cleanup, and nice results!
Here's a couple of close Macro shots that capture the fabric effect of the Aviattic PC10 Decal coverings.
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In the shot above the colour appears more green and closer to it's actual tone then the brownish cast of the other shots. The greenish patches , particularly evident on the wings, are the touch up paint (A Tamiya mix) that is hardly visible in real life. The macro and lighting make it look pretty nasty in the photos but I suspect in other lighting conditions it would be virtually invisible. That's my excuse.......er, I mean story, and I am unanimous in that!
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The wood finish, forgotten initially, was completed on the lower wing spars. As the " merciless machro monster" so well illustrates, some cleanup and touch ups are still pending!
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Last, I applied a bit of dirt and stain to the underside of the nacelle and then applied a very light treatment of Oil Paint Lamp Black wash to "age" and highlight it a bit and start the weathering treatment.
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The missing bracket on the Lewis Gun Mount below, knocked off during masking for the final coat, is stored in a safe place and will be re-installed later.
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.......and that's where she presently sits. Next comes some work on completing the nacelle details such as the leather coaming, turtle deck cowling and straps, and adding a few vents etc. I've also started the struts in preparation for final assembly. I figure after about a year or so of rigging she'll be done!? ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance it was very great to see what a beauty you build. Finest work!
Martin
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She's really starting to come together now Lance. Thanks for posting those closeups of the decal material as they give me a good idea of the appearance of the fabric texture. I have to say that I'm impressed from what I see here. As always, you work magic with your post shading. Not too much and not too little. Just right.
Cheers,
Chris
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Really wonderful work, Lance. The subtlety you are achieving is super!
Cheers,
Michael
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very beautyfull work, congratulations!
Xan
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Hello to all,
Gorgeous painting !!
Best regards.
Alain.
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Happy New Year, Lance and Happy Looking DH.2 ;)
Keep up the great work.
Von Buckle
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The Aviattic's decals are definitely magnificent :D
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Very good job !!!
michel
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You are motoring along quite nicely with this build Lance, the Aviattic decals are superb and you have added to their realism with your magnificient shading, a perfect combination. The DH.2 is shaping up to be a real show stopper and I look forward to seeing the next update.
Des.
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Thanks all for your very positive and encouraging comments, they definitely add to the attraction of the "bench". I haven't made any real progress today but did spend a very pleasant hour or more having a coffee with our own JKnaus; James sold me one of his shipped in error HB W12's on WNW's behalf and we covered a lot of common modelling ground as well, amazing how this Hobby brings Folks together.
Cheers,
Lance
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Nice work so far Lance 8)
Terri
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Thanks Terri, still learning with every step but so far this "Decals vs Paint finish" is working well! Certainly beats the old Renwal Series......oops, that was well before your debut on the Modelling Front! Showing my age again! :o :(
Cheers,
Lance
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Seems I am a little late responding! Your use of the Aviattic decals, Subtle shading, and excellent Modeling technique, is turning into an Outstanding build!
RAGIII
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Excellent update, Lance! I am really astounded how good the
fabric look of the Aviattic decals come across especially with your
shading and weathering efforts. Beautiful work, my friend! Best in
the new year. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Lance!
Loving your work!!! Those Aviattic decals look terrific!!! And I'd never seen using your post-shading technique before but damn that looks good!!! :)
Are those decals transparent??? I mean could I do classical pre-shading with some results? :)
Cheerio
Lukas
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Wonderful work Lance (as usual my friend). The wings looks teriffic as did your interior. Keep up the great work my friend! She will be gorgeous.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Lance, your build looks really lovely. The linen effect looks fantastic, and even the touch up spots seem to add realistic character (even if they are not visible to the naked eye). I'm taking notes!
Chris
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Thank you for the positive comments, Chris, Patrick, Lukas, Ernie, and Rick. As always they make my day. Lukas, as Richard indicates the versions with Clear backing are transparent, I would say basically identical to the Clear Backed lozenge. I only Post Shaded on this one however I believe Pre-Shading would work very nicely.
Cheers,
Lance
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I don't know how I've missed this! Super work mate. I'd been wondering about the aviattic linen. Now I'm sold.
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Hi Lance!!!
I thought that was the case but wasn't sure :) thanks Richard and Lance!!! Great work!!!
Cheerio
Lukas
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Good job Lance!
I didn't know about the linen decals - look great - that's another project for me to try! ::)
Guy
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Thank you Dave, Lukaz, and Guy. The "Linen" decals have added a new dimension to this one, I'm looking forward to getting the various bits assembled into one subject to see the overall effect.
Cheers,
Lance
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Incredible. You are correct, your touched up paint looks rather ugly - my main point of concern would be the loss of the beautiful linen structure underneath.
The nacelle is simply lovely. Nothing more to add.
Stefan
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Terrific work and effect !!1
Ed
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hi Lance!
great build going on! I'll grab some ideas for my build.... I particularely like the scheme you are choosing, and the realization is simply amazing!
I am experimenting with a "glue and cloth" method to replicate canvas surfaces, I'll let you know how it goes ...
ciao
edo
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This is shaping up beautifully Lance. I'm looking forward to completion. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Stefan- as I said earlier the "green" patches shown by the camera are really hard to pick out under lights or natural lighting, unless it's just my old eyes coming into play. I 'm going to leave it as is, if any change is required I'll use the white backed PC10 you sent to me to simulate a couple of repairs, Richard.
Bob & Ed - Thank You, much appreciated.
Edo, now that's interesting........... curious to see how that works out.
Cheers,
Lance
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I've finally made some progress, got all the buckles drilled in and installed ( 110 on the wings and fuselage alone) and the lines attached to the lower wing. It's a little "busy"!
Sorry for the poor quality photo, kind of looks I was seeing after that marathon!
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Next step was mounting the struts. I elected to install the cabanes and the inner bay wing struts, adding the outer bay mains after the upper wing was installed. The two grey damaged spots on the lower wing are where I "pinged" off the brass tube fairleads installed previously for the aileron control cables, they'll be replaced later. The wing edges are taking a real beating from the constant handling during the rigging process, it will all need touching up further on in the sequence. I used my standard quick template to align the cabanes, especially handy as I'd broken one of the mounting lugs off a rear one and lost it! :-[ >:(
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Once the upper wing was mounted the outer bay main struts were popped into place and CA'd.
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As you've probably noticed this Build no longer represents Hawkers 5694. I rather elected for 24 Squadron's B Flight 6011, shot down and captured on 11 July 1916 and well represented in the Data File as it had the specific scheme I wanted. The fuel line from the overhead aux. tank will be plumbed in later in the build.
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Presently I'm up to my ears in rigging this little devil. She looked like a demented bunch of Lilliputians had run amok with some spools of mono before, now with each line completed and trimmed she looks better as the process goes on. I'm using a combination of rigging plans from the Kit Instructions, the excellent tutorial on Bob's Buckles Website, and the Data File three views along with numerous photos; there are contradictions present in the mix, particularly on the cabanes but the majority wins............
This Kit is not for the Beginner nor faint at heart however it's doable with patience and pre-study at the various steps. I certainly wouldn't want to attempt it in a smaller scale, as the man said in the movie, "I'm really getting too old for this ........."! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Doesn't look as if you're too old to me, Lance.
Admirable, to say the least.
Bon courage,
Michael
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Your spiders are going to be busy .....looking really sharp so far Lance . Love your work on the engine :)
Terri
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Excellent progress Lance! Even with all that rigging, I can see another
gem from you coming. Great work, my friend. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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So, following the rigging instructions from BB's webpage isn't sufficient to succeed? Now i am afraid again of that DH2's rigging.
Merde.
Stefan :(
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Great to see the top wing on Lance, you have now reached the best part of the entire build, the rigging :) :) ;)
Des.
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Fine progress, Lance. And you too old??? No way!
BTW, I am always deliberating if I should attach the rigging lines before top wing or not. And usually I prefer to leave them for later, especially in 32nd scale. I have always a feeling that I will get them so much tangled among themselves and with the struts plus I am afraid they will interfere with the glue in the strut sockets... I see you were braver then me. ;)
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. . . as the man said in the movie, "I'm really getting too old for this ........."! ;)
I couldn't disagree more my friend. The challenges presented here are what keeps you young. The rigging appears to be a daunting task, and confusing to say the least, but I have full confidence in your abilities. You'll have this spider's web sewn up in no time flat. Of that, I'm certain!
Cheers,
Chris
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So, following the rigging instructions from BB's webpage isn't sufficient to succeed? Now i am afraid again of that DH2's rigging.
Merde.
Stefan :(
In isolation it's the best guide out there, but I found a combination of guides helpful to ensure a successful build. I would also add Eduards instruction guides found on their site to list list of useful aides.
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I remember two issues with DH.2 rigging, that no source, including the photos available, could solve in a unique way.
One is the presence or absence of cabane rigging lines between the the front struts.
The second one is how the cables running diagonally (in the plan view) from the top wing to the rear corner of the outriggers (where they connect to the horizontal stabiliser) interfere with the outriggers - are they two span and have the connection points over the inter-outrigger strut, or are they continuous?
As for the first question, on the base of several photos I decided that some a/c had those cables, others not.
And the second one is still a mystery for me. Any thoughts on it?
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Hi Lance, you are continuing to do a great job young man! 110 tb amazing! If this is awaiting me then I am really scared and frightened. Is this the easiest way to mount the upper wing? Installing the cabane struts and the inner wing struts? If so I will certainly try this on the next "dubble-strutted" a/c. You are doing just great my friend!
Kind regards
Patrick
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I have always wanted to build a DH-2. But after seeing that photo with the 'thousands' of wires coming off of it in a giant and confusing tangle I may have changed my mind!!
Chris
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The PC 10 and CDL look great! Your build has taken shape now, Literally! Like some of the others I too plan a DH2 build someday. I must admit to being intimidated by the rigging. I am looking forward to seeing your process unfold!
RAGIII
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First and foremost Thank You all for your generous comments and encouragements, they are very much appreciated.
For those expressing reservations about the challenge of rigging this beast don't worry, be happy! My attempts to inject a little self directed humour into some of my comments often gives the impression of things being much worse then they really are....... I'm enjoying this challenge and it is quite "doable", however slow and easy is definitely required in the approach. :)
Prez, I agree with your comments; the cross braces on the front cabanes are on some diagrams, not on others, and the rears are a bit of a mystery as well. I concluded, after going through every photo I could find, that some aircraft definitely had them both, some none, some only front and some only back! I elected to install them all. As for the lines from the upper wing to the horizontal stab junctions I'm not there yet but I did note exactly what you described on the Instruction Guide Rigging Diagram. (One line or two each??); also that their attachment location specifics are very vague. I must look carefully at the other references.........
GCN, I agree that the tutorial on Bob's site is the best single reference however the diagrams are very vague concerning the termination points of some of the wires and a photo search is required to verify them.
Patrick, the method of mounting the upper wing on the cabanes first is the one I find easiest. If a "two bay" design such as this or the Brisfit I've found it more or less necessary to have the inner bay main struts installed as well, then the outers can be carefully "popped' in. I also find it easier to adjust the alignment of the upper wing laterally with the lower when working with fewer glued struts.
I have roughly 2/3 of the wing rigging now completed, hope to finish up today. I'll get a few photos posted once that's done before I start on the "Gitter Rumph".
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance that is very great.
Martin
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Prez, I forgot to address your comments on the glue from the strut attachments interfering with the eyelets and the rigging potential for tangles. The CA did foul a couple of eyelets causing some very awkward drilling to clean several out and I had to re-drill and replace one already. I still prefer that to working the entire task between the wings though. As for the tangles, yes, a definite challenge. I use little tabs of Tamiya Tape to group pairs etc. together but things still get all tangled together anyway. The secret is to untangle and move any that are in the way before working on a particular line and so on.
As with any part of a build, there is no one foolproof method of doing anything!
Cheers,
Lance
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Found this on the Wingnut Wings site. It appears to me that the wing bracing cable, discussed above, attaches to the tail boom at the vertical strut with a turnbuckle (which makes sense — a shorter, adjustable run would provide more support). That same strut has, I think, yet another turnbuckle and wire run to the end of the tail boom next to the horizontal stabilizer.
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Found another which seems to support my theory:
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Prez, I forgot to address your comments on the glue from the strut attachments interfering with the eyelets and the rigging potential for tangles. The CA did foul a couple of eyelets causing some very awkward drilling to clean several out and I had to re-drill and replace one already. I still prefer that to working the entire task between the wings though. As for the tangles, yes, a definite challenge. I use little tabs of Tamiya Tape to group pairs etc. together but things still get all tangled together anyway. The secret is to untangle and move any that are in the way before working on a particular line and so on.
As with any part of a build, there is no one foolproof method of doing anything!
Cheers,
Lance
When I built my FE.2b I attached all of the wing rigging lines before putting the top wing on. I used Blu-TAC to group the lines. I don't recommend Blu-Tac with EZ Line as it is too sticky. It was a little tricky, but if you work slowly, moving the lines out of the way as needed, it is a good method.
Next time I will cut the rigging lines much longer than I did so I have plenty of maneuvering room during the rigging process. With the tube-and-eye (or Bob's Buckles) method, since they will be adjustable, I like to attach all of them to the rigging line before I CA one end to the wing. Then I CA the other wire eye into its hole in the bottom wing, after the top wing is on and secure, and pull out the slack, but not tight. After all are secured, you can secure and tweak the wing alignment with the turnbuckles and lines.
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Found this on the Wingnut Wings site. It appears to me that the wing bracing cable, discussed above, attaches to the tail boom at the vertical strut with a turnbuckle (which makes sense — a shorter, adjustable run would provide more support). That same strut has, I think, yet another turnbuckle and wire run to the end of the tail boom next to the horizontal stabilizer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7zV9m-afoJM/VL6cNmJClNI/AAAAAAAAFRk/XaFGdPqaASo/s640/2015_%2525201_20_11_18.png)
Found another which seems to support my theory:
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Yep, you're right! I somehow missed these photos however they clearly solve the riddle for me. In fact, in the first photo you can see the mirror versions on the bottom lines from the lower wing as well. Thanks for this!
Cheers,
Lance
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Your method has merit, Eindecker. I like the idea of not completing the tightening of the lines when all are ready to go, gives more flexibility to the process and reduces potential to slacken a line as you tighten the ones following. I'm going to try to incorporate some of this in my next project.
Thanks for taking the time to share this and the rigging info.
Cheers,
Lance
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You are quite welcome. That's one of the joys of this forum, the chance to share some things we have learned and to learn from others.
Looks like I need a DH.2
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You are quite welcome. That's one of the joys of this forum, the chance to share some things we have learned and to learn from others.
Looks like I need a DH.2
She does grow on you! Like most of my Builds I'm always tempted to do a second one avoiding the mistakes and warts of the first....................but then that could lead to a third! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance I feel better about the rigging job now. I have gotten over
the feeling of panic...well mostly anyway. ;) ;D I'm looking forward
to the pictures of the rigging when done. Good work, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The main component rigging is complete and went quite smoothly, only had to replace one eyelet due to it being fouled by a bit of CA and breaking when I tried to clean it up. I used .013mm Mono fishing line and `Bob`s Buckles`throughout on the wings and nacelle and easy line on the lattice tail booms on the portions that can be pre-rigged. The mono was painted with Mr. Metal Color "Stainless" lacquer.
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Next comes the tail booms and landing gear with their rigging and then the Flight Controls Rigging, still a lot of string to go!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking good!
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Super progress, Lance! Your attention to detail is amazing. Funny thing, since
following your build I have gone from a panic to actually looking forward to
building the beastie...even having dirty thoughts of a FE2. ::) ;D Thanks, my
friend, for the inspiration, and your gorgeous project. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looks great Lance.
Martin
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It makes it all worthwhile when I see rigging such as this ;)
Doing great things with this, Lance :)
VB
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You are doing a marvelous job with the rigging Lance, the tail and control rigging still involves quite a lot but you are over the major part of it now.
Des.
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Ernie, I must admit my "Fee" has been frightening me however after this experience, like you, I'm far less intimidated by it's rigging challenge.
Martin, Des, and Eindecker, many Thanks for the encouraging and complimentary comments, most generous and appreciated.
von Buckle, Thank You! The good news for von Buckle Enterprises is an order on the way very soon, after this little gem my Buckle locker is barren, and I've still a ways to go!
Cheers,
Lance
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I got the lattice work on the main frame this afternoon, one step forward
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While doing so it occurred to me to review the progress to this point and ensure nothing had been missed, glad I did! In the following photo you'll see the aileron control cable pulley as installed on each upper wing tip. Unfortunately this system was installed on later versions of the DH.2 and results in the aileron return cable being installed across the top exterior of the upper wing, one step backward!
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Since my subject, 6011, was in the initial production batch it had a different system, a bungee return set up with the return line inside the upper wing. All of the foregoing is clearly covered in the Wingnut Instruction Booklet for those clever enough to read it; I failed the exercise so said pulleys are coming off and the proper system will be installed. :-[
Not a huge error but annoying, and no one's fault but my own. I've popped off the pulleys and it looks like a quick and simple fix with no cosmetic penalty to pay. Photos will follow once the fix is done.
Cheers,
Lance
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This is looking so good, Lance and I'm learning such a lot from your masterly techniques and the surrounding discussions. Thank you.
Good luck with the fix.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Looking outstanding! Too bad about the small error but I am sure you will set things right in no time at all!
RAGIII
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Nice to see the tail booms appear, Lance. Continuing excellent work.
I am quite familiar with the one step forward, etc., dance step, but
at least you found it early and will have no trouble rectifying it. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Prez, I forgot to address your comments on the glue from the strut attachments interfering with the eyelets and the rigging potential for tangles. The CA did foul a couple of eyelets causing some very awkward drilling to clean several out and I had to re-drill and replace one already. I still prefer that to working the entire task between the wings though. As for the tangles, yes, a definite challenge. I use little tabs of Tamiya Tape to group pairs etc. together but things still get all tangled together anyway. The secret is to untangle and move any that are in the way before working on a particular line and so on.
As with any part of a build, there is no one foolproof method of doing anything!
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks, Lance, for your answer. As usual, everybody to his favourite methods. I am glad yours are working fine for you. Your DH.2 build is progressing to a fantastic result, I am sure!
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Nigel, Rick, Ernie and Prze,
Thanks for the votes of confidence as I continue to stumble on, fortunately although my error was huge the impact was minor and easily corrected. The potential to complicate the rigging process by using the wrong sequence and blocking access to a line or connection that should have been done before is high, I am spending a lot of time checking, cross checking, and doing "dry" runs on this one. The Tutorial on Bob's Site is a great help in this regard. The anecdote about releasing a pigeon in the latticework and, if it managed to fly out you've missed a line or two makes a lot of sense, there was a lot of wire for the Riggers to string on this beast! :o
Cheers!
Lance
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Hi Lance:
Nice save on the pulleys! Glad to see that there was no cosmetic damage and you can continue on this build. Looking good to date. Looking forward to seeing your next update.
Best
Mark
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Hi Lance I totally agree with Mark. Such an inspiring and wonderful build. The rigging is absolutely fabulous!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Thanks Mark. Patrick, the rigging has slowed somewhat as I elected for mono for one line lower wing back to the Lattice and EZ Line for the rest. The mono provides good strength for the delicate Lattice Tail but has to be tensioned just right to not warp the frame work or, conversely, hang slack. I hope the whole equation doesn't change once She's on her feet and weight is supported on the tail skid......... :-\
Worst case I'll be replacing the mono with EZ Line as the last step in the process. :(
Cheers,
Lance
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I've not used the EZ line very much, Lance. Are you using the "fine"
variety for the tail rigging? Quite the balancing act once you get out
on the tail lattice! With your abilities I have no doubts of a successful
outcome. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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I've not used the EZ line very much, Lance. Are you using the "fine"
variety for the tail rigging? Quite the balancing act once you get out
on the tail lattice! With your abilities I have no doubts of a successful
outcome. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Ernie,
Yes, "Fine" made by Berkshire Junction. The "flat" stuff, and it shows! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
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You make a marvelous work Lance.
Martin
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hi Lance! beautiful work indeed!
I added a copper wire eyelet to the brooms, but twisting the wire to make the eyelet itself it just cut throught the plastic.... how did you do that? how did you attach the turnbuckles there?
thank you
ciao
edo
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My apologies for being so late the party again Lance but I've been catching up since my last visit and what you're doing here is marvelous. Looking in from the outside, the rigging is daunting to say the least, especially as its routing seems to be confusing in more than one or two instances. You're doing a stellar job with it and your build log will be a valuable tool when I finally get around to mine. Keep notes as I'll be pestering you!
Cheers,
Chris
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hi Lance! beautiful work indeed!
I added a copper wire eyelet to the brooms, but twisting the wire to make the eyelet itself it just cut throught the plastic.... how did you do that? how did you attach the turnbuckles there?
thank you
ciao
edo
Martin, Chris, and Edo,
Many Thanks, and I'll keep notes Chris. It's real easy to lose track for certain, and I have to keep going back to the references constantly.
Edo,
I used the "lugs" already moulded onto the tail booms rather then use eyelets there. As you can see in the following photo they are more then strong and large enough for the purpose and, in fact, I easily got second runs of line through some of them when required. all except the crossed lines in the bay closest to the main nacelle are easy line as it's virtually impossible to use mono without warping the booms. It's a very slow process but not difficult. I did the cross rigging of the lines in each individual tail boom "bay" first, then the lines between the two sides of the boom or lattice assembly next. The other photos following serve as the next update; the rigging of the lattice tail assembly is now complete.
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Next step on the main structure is the myriad of flight control cables. Prior I'll be completing the Lewis Gun (Gas Patch version) and adding a few final touch ups to the landing gear assembly.
Cheers,
Lance
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I see, Lance! :) thank you mate!
you did a great job indeed!
btw, did you use decals or you painted those roundels? they look terrific to me...
ciao
edo
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Hi Lance,
Your rigging is fabulous my friend. Outstanding modeling this is all the way!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Edo,
The roundels are the kit Decals, the "lighter Blue" ones.
Patrick,
The rigging is really getting slow now, the sequence has limited the amount I can move the model around to do the next rigging step without damaging it; a lot of the lines now have to be done with me moving around instead of the model, at times I have to step back as I'm all but standing on my head! The double control wires from fuselage to the lower pulleys and then to the rudder and tail skid are the challenge presently, lots of fun!
Cheers,
Lance
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This really looks great, Lance!
I did a double take of your close up of the boom attachment point since the rigging looked so realistic. If I ever get the nerve up to build one of these marvelous beasts, I will be digging through this thread for guidance!
Chris
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Thanks Chris, it's not as easy as most to rig but as I keep saying, with a slow approach it's not all that bad!
Cheers,
Lance
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Exellent rigging Lance.
Martin
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Lance,
This is continuing to be an educational Masterpiece! Lovely work on the rigging
RAGIII
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You ahve done a superb job with the rigging Lance, it may be time consuming but well worth the effort.
Des.
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Well done on the rigging Lance..
Looks scary! Keep going though ;)
Guy
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Lots done in the past three weeks but at a very slow pace. Prior to completing the rigging I cobbled together this neat little adjustable work stand, I believe someone here posted the idea, whoever it was many thanks, it's a real boon to the rigging phase as it can be bent to virtually any angle and, at eye level on your bench, it helps the process immensely.
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The Flight Control cables were added which required a lot of work in the restricted spaces between the wings. First on were the elevator cables, then the rudder cables. Here's the elevator cables from the large bell crank on the nacelle........
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Here they pass through the pulley on the rear strut of the first bay.........
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.......and they then run to the upper and lower control horns on the elevators.
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The rudder and tailskid control cables start as two and are then split to three cables by a brass and leather fitting. The Kit supplies a rather over sized Photo Etch fitting which I trimmed down in size and re-drilled........
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Getting it mounted and then ensuring that, when completed, it would hold it's proper vertical alignment proved tricky however if you........ hold ......your tongue......just.......so!
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The aileron control system was changed to the retractable bungee type as mentioned last thread and the lower wing aileron cables and fairleads were added.
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Several other flying wires were then added and the landing gear as well.
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All that remains now is the upper wing fuel tank, Lewis Gun, and prop to install, some touch ups (lots of scratches to cover and re-sealing of edges where the decals have frayed a bit) bit more Post Shading "a-la Bud" and some weathering. It's been a long haul with lots of real life delays and interruptions but I'm almost there!
Cheers,
Lance
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Superb is an understatement to describe your rigging, very well done considering how intricate it is, don't you just love those aeroplanes that had heaps of rigging :) ;)
Des.
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Hello,
she is absolute beauty!!! It is great to see her getting so close to be finished ;) I love your rigging and still craving your post-shading!!!
Lukas
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Smashing! Wizard! Cowabunga! Really… marvelously well executed DH. The rigging is superb, and I know, having done a not-so-super rigging job on my FE.2b. Thanks for the bonus shots of your rigging stand. I'm building one. Soon.
I will say that following your build here has moved a Wingnut Wings DH-2 to the top of my buy list.
Waiting for the finished photos.
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very impressive work congratulation !
Xan
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Hello gentlemn,
I agree: kowabunga !!! What a string ball !! Awesome work.
Best regards.
Alain.
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Wow,Lance, what an impressive piece of work. Well done!
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi Lance!
you did a wonderful work! The rigging is top class, I'll use your build as a guide to my DH2
ciao
Edo
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Hello Lance,
Your rigging is simply magic. This is high class modeling. No way I will ever be able to equal this amazing build! Congratulations!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Lance,
You have made this twister of wire proud ;)
Your rigging is top notch and I'm loving the wee rigging stand. I must knock one of those up for future stringbagging.
More please!
Von B
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Many humble thanks for the positive comments, All! This one has a lot of "warts" presently, most of which are fixable. As for "my" Rigging Stand, not so, would the real inventor please claim credit or did I dream I originally saw it here on the Forum. (or did Chris find it elsewhere and forward me a link??) I guess the back isn't the only body part that starts to fail with age!
Completed photos hopefully by the end of our long weekend. ???
Cheers,
Lance
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I am still, and will remain, intimidated by the rigging. Your method is outstanding and certainly looks real! I don't think I have the skills to tackle this one now, and maybe ever ::)
RAGIII
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Exellent work Lance.
Martin
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That looks fantastic, Lance! Really great work.
Chris
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Lance, my friend, I am absolutely in awe of your accomplishments in this
build. It is a beautiful model and a testament to your abilities. I look
forward to the completed pictures. Well done!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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That's outstanding work.
What is that stand made from? It looks really helpful
Cheers
Anthony
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Thank you all, your comments are greatly appreciated!
Anthony, the stand is a 15-20 minute project if you have the materials on hand. The base is a scrap of cedar plank, the wire is a foot long piece of #10 Gauge household electrical wire, and the top is a 2 X 10 inch long piece of 1/8 inch plywood with a strip of foam glued to it. The wire has an "eye" formed at each end with a 1/2 inch pan head screw and washer to secure it. I've used ordinary elastic bands to hold the model on, also have some fabric backed Velcro strip to use if necessary. That's it! I think I'll ad a couple of small nails to the underside of the upper piece to hold the elastics from sliding off.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi!
Wow.
Vvvvvvery nice.
Makes me want to train spiders...
Congrats!
Ciao
Iwik
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Somehow I missed this Lance. Incredible work. For some reason I just bought this kit and now have a guide. Can you talk a bit more on your rigging stand?? what materials did you use? (sorry if this has been asked, I was modtly looking at the pictures).
James
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Iwik,
Thanks! I wished I had a "herd" (or brace, or bevy, or flock, or pride, what is a gaggle of spiders called anyways???) of trained 8 legged arachnids about day 3 of this little episode. As I said earlier, my experience was that it's not difficult, just very time consuming!
James, see my answer about three posts earlier, I had just cleaned up my shop and tossed out enough scraps of wire to build a hundred of these...........Rona sells the 10 Gauge two wire stock off a roll for around a $1.00 a foot.
Cheers,
Lance
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Great job on the rigging Lance. It's a spider's web to be sure. For a guy who likes rigging, the DH.2 must be one of the ultimate challenges. I'm looking forward to seeing you cross the finish line as I know it's going to look spectacular.
Cheers,
Chris
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Hello Lance:
Outstanding workmanship on the rigging Lance. Nice, clean and tidy. Of course the rest looks equally as good.
Looking forward to seeing you wrap this one up.
Best
Mark
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Thanks Lance. I should have taken the time to read everything instead of just basking in the pictures lol. As for a bunch of spiders, isn't that a nightmare???
James
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Ditto to all the above compliments---well done !!!
Ed
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Lance, this is just really great work sir, just great!
Warren
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Thanks Gents, She's over on Completed Models as of yesterday, nice to have her done. :)
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
just started one these wee fellas, so had another look at your awesome job. I think I will be popping back often. Hope you are keeping warm. My daughter is moving to Toronto in February. She will be one cold Kiwi when she gets there. Snow is a new thing to her even although she's 25. Me as an ex-pat Scot can appreciate it. Once again awseome build met. Good one.
Cheers
Dave
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Looking fantastic!
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Thanks James. She's done and over on Completed Models now.
Cheers,
Lance
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Kind of funny, I've been reading a lot over Christmas break and pulled out my DH-2 and then looked for more inspiration and found this thread. And now its p front for easy access, must be ordained lol.
Seriously nice Lance.
James
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Thanks again James. Despite the challenges of rigging this little devil it's one of my favourite Builds, just a superb Kit!
Cheers,
Lance