Author Topic: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.  (Read 47542 times)

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2016, 11:39:05 PM »
Toby,
   I've gone back to your Build Thread numerous times to confirm some of the Mastercaster's details regarding "fit"; when you say you sanded down the walls was the interior module too narrow or too wide to fit the inside of the fuselage properly? I'm pleased I'm not the only one to find the set less then perfect! :-\
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2016, 12:53:18 AM »
Toby,
   I've gone back to your Build Thread numerous times to confirm some of the Mastercaster's details regarding "fit"; when you say you sanded down the walls was the interior module too narrow or too wide to fit the inside of the fuselage properly? I'm pleased I'm not the only one to find the set less then perfect! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
They were too wide. The top was easily visible and protruded making them look very much an aftermarket addition and not part of the fuselage itself if you get my meaning?.  It was easier to sand them down than the fuselage interior  itself.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2016, 01:42:37 AM »
That's very helpful, Toby, I couldn't get an accurate impression dry fitting the assembly when taped together. I think I'll build it as an assembled "module" per the plans and then sand & file to get a decent fit from that point. Several of the Builds here discard the set and go full Scratch Build on the interior, and for good reason! Thanks for the feed back!
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2016, 03:32:37 AM »
Those look really good improvements that you are making there. It surprises me that so many things need correcting on these larger kits - so much easier to get it right when its bigger I would have thought!

Excellent modelling Lance - and very useful to anyone else who wants to attempt a Nieuport in any scale.

Stephen.

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2016, 08:07:58 AM »
I am also very grateful to hear about your experiences with the Master casters set. It's sad to see how problematic it is to use. But the progress on the model is actually impressing, the correction of the cockpit opening, the stitching and the exhaust channel in particular. It is a joy to follow and will be a really helpful threat when it comes to my Nieuport 17.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2016, 12:08:22 PM »
Stephen,
     Thanks for taking a look and for your generous comments. Like many of the less "elaborate" Kits on the market this one is not without it's shortcomings, you get what you pay for as the old adage goes. On the better side of the coin I always enjoy a challenge when it comes to a Build, and this one is cooperating very nicely! I think it will produce a pretty good model, just going to take some (or perhaps more then just some!) extra effort!

Borsos,
     The Mastercaster's Set is still, in my judgement, better then none. It supplies a good base for the cockpit and, if the fit works out, will add a great deal to the model. I managed to get the wood grain and a coat of Clear Orange on the major components so there's still some progress happening; I should be able to work on some of the fine detail and internal rigging starting fresh tomorrow.

Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2016, 12:08:39 PM »
 Lance,
Wow outstanding work my old friend. I love your upgrades,well done. Keep up the high standards of excellence . Looking forward to the next awesome update.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2016, 12:11:29 PM »
 Lance,
Sorry forgot to add that if I build another Nieuport 17 I'll use either the Lone Star interior set or just scratch it myself.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2016, 12:28:20 PM »
Thank you Greg, much appreciate your comments!
At this point I think "scratching" the cockpit would be the way to go. I'm looking forward to completing the assembly and seeing how it fits the fuselage........ :-\  That will determine the "rating" on the interior set.
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Lance

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2016, 01:57:29 AM »
    It's been almost a month since I last updated this project, hard to believe how fast the time slips by as the "real world" imposes itself on leisure time!
The Mastercaster Cockpit module is nearly complete after a fair amount of modification and additions. The major components were finished individually and are now being assembled.
   I started with the resin seat from the Mastercaster set, removing the molded resin belts which proved a bit tricky and required some "reconstructive surgery" afterwards. Once painted and detailed I added some spare HGW belts.



   The floor and back panel were done next, standard woodgrain done with Tamiya acrylic wood base (a mix of their Desert Yellow and Deck Tan) with Winsor Newton Burnt Sienna Oil grain and a light coat of thinned Tamiya Clear Orange. Rudder control cables were added with very fine Invisible Mending Thread. Finally some dirt and scuffing were added to the floor and foot boards using pastel weathering powders.



   Next came the fuel tank, firewall, and plywood ammunition boxes assembly.



    I next tackled the side walls which had been previously cleaned up by removing the molded internal bracing wires and rescribed to emphasize the veneer planking of their construction.  A combination of Gaspatch Turnbuckles, Bob's Buckles, and 0.12mm Mono provided for the replacement internal frame braces.



    The throttle frame support on the port sidewall proved a little bit of an "adventure". I had added copper piping and details to the Mastercaster one, completed the painting, and put it on the desk while I decanted a few drops of CA to mount it. I have no idea of how or why it was gone only minutes later, but almost 2 hours of searching the entire work space, then the entire room, my clothing, (even "Wonder Dog" got frisked!) failed to locate it, and it has not been seen since! It was replaced by a semi scratch built one using the kit throttle, mounting plate from the Tom's Model Works PE Set, and copper wire and sprue.



   And that completed all of the sub assemblies......



    Here's 3 shots of the partially assembled module which appears to be a decent fit in the fuselage. The indented circular molding just behind the rudder pedals has me baffled, it seems a logical place for a compass perhaps, but I'll have to do another reference search to hopefully clear up the mystery. The instructions are very poor, if anyone can advise me of what it is for before I close this one up I'd be eternally grateful!







    And that's where she's at for now, hopefully it won't be another month before I do the next update!
Cheers,
Lance

Addendum:   I've just answered my own question above concerning the hole in the floor just behind the rudder pedals; a photo in Greg's Blog shows its for a vertical frame member not shown on the Mastercaster's Instructions, an easy addition and Thanks Greg!

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2016, 03:53:19 AM »
Outstanding work, looking forward to your next update.

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2016, 04:39:39 AM »
Looking good Lance. I think the round bit is where the spent shell "tube" goes to exit the aircraft.

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2016, 04:55:26 AM »
Terrific work Lance! Love those wood tones, and the rigging detail is truly exceptional.
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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2016, 04:55:58 AM »
Beautiful Lance,

The engine is outstanding...

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Re: Hobbycraft 1:32 Scale Nieuport 17- Capt W.A. "Billy" Bishop V.C.
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2016, 05:04:47 AM »
    Thanks Juan 27!
     Could be Kevin, although a single over the wing Lewis on a Foster Mounting was common. I'm not sure if the ammo boxes were left in these machines either but the British ones had the Vickers and it's interrupter gear removed in favour of the single Lewis Gun option. I'm hoping one of our Nieuport "Specialists" has an answer........
Cheers,
Lance