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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #210 on: February 03, 2016, 11:34:52 AM »
Bo,
Really beautiful work!
Is there any chance that last set could be scaled down to 1/48?  That would make it much easier to convert the Special Hobby D.II to a D.III.

Drew

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #211 on: February 03, 2016, 12:48:56 PM »
Bo,
Really beautiful work!
Is there any chance that last set could be scaled down to 1/48?  That would make it much easier to convert the Special Hobby D.II to a D.III.

Drew

Thanks Drew!

As for your question: in theory yes, but tolerances are set to minimum values (wall thickness, wire sizes) for production in 1/32, so it is not a simple matter of reducing by 75% -- they would have to be remastered as they will be unprintable in the smaller scale. But the bigger potential problem is I would doubt they would actually fit the SH kit without tailoring the parts specifically to it -- and I don't have that kit.

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #212 on: February 03, 2016, 02:03:51 PM »
Hi Bo,
I for one would also be interested in a reduced 1/48 scale copy.  Looking at your design not much would need to be taken from the Special Hobby kit, I would think that the Eduard E.III kit would provide most of the parts not included in your kit, and Small Stuff has just come out with a great Oberursel U.III in 1/48 scale that would go great with this!  We would also be able to use thinner wire as needed.  I for one say reduce the files by .6666 percent and it should give you an authentic scale kit, then we could add whatever we would need.
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Bo,
Really beautiful work!
Is there any chance that last set could be scaled down to 1/48?  That would make it much easier to convert the Special Hobby D.II to a D.III.

Drew

Thanks Drew!

As for your question: in theory yes, but tolerances are set to minimum values (wall thickness, wire sizes) for production in 1/32, so it is not a simple matter of reducing by 75% -- they would have to be remastered as they will be unprintable in the smaller scale. But the bigger potential problem is I would doubt they would actually fit the SH kit without tailoring the parts specifically to it -- and I don't have that kit.

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #213 on: February 03, 2016, 02:12:38 PM »
I like your thinking, Dave!  I have two of the D.IIs waiting to convert and those SmallStuff engines are things of beauty.

Bo, I wouldn't worry about tailoring the parts to the SH kit. It needs work on the fuselage anyway, so it would be better to tailor the SH kit to fit your parts.

Drew

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #214 on: February 03, 2016, 08:16:07 PM »


With this work I realise that you are already using your new artificial lens  :) . Don't push it too much... We may need your eyes even more than you do  :) ;) . Such beautiful products.

I like these parts very much. I almost take it for granted that underneath this cowling, the Taurus engine will fit.

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Ivo

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #215 on: February 03, 2016, 09:48:24 PM »
I almost take it for granted that underneath this cowling, the Taurus engine will fit.

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Ivo

Yes, designed around the Taurus models U.III with room to spare ;)

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #216 on: February 03, 2016, 10:39:40 PM »
Really nice work you are good with 3d programs!

I have a question though, I started with shapeways for my first products witch where available here but when i got the parts they looked like crap very grainy and loss of detail plus it was covert in support wax witch is hard to get of if you don't have an ultrasonic cleaner handling these big parts plus parts are warped.

I myself now use Gaspatch to print my models witch are very crisp and detailed no wax on it and no warping and hard as nails. This is more expensive to do of course but that would do this project justice me thinks....

Just my two cents.

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #217 on: February 03, 2016, 11:26:31 PM »
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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #218 on: February 03, 2016, 11:42:36 PM »
;D ;D ;D




Agreed Bob – I’m sure Bo can walk the rice paper as well  ;)

Let’s hope he avoids the ultimate fate of fate of Kwai Chang Caine  ::)

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #219 on: February 04, 2016, 01:36:59 AM »
Bo Knows Modeling!! ;)

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #220 on: February 04, 2016, 01:38:33 AM »
I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print the fabric on a very thin, translucent plastic like a vacuform model but without the cutting and sanding.

Just a thought.....

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #221 on: February 04, 2016, 02:25:15 AM »
I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print the fabric on a very thin, translucent plastic like a vacuform model but without the cutting and sanding.

Just a thought.....

My thoughts have wandered there in that direction as well. Minimum wall thickness is .3mm and that needs supports. I've thought of trying to skin  the fuselage frame.

meanwhile... landing gear designed this am:



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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #222 on: February 04, 2016, 03:12:25 AM »
Yes, doing the skin, would likely require trimming the ribs to compensate.  But it would be closer and translucent which you cannot do in traditional polystyrene.

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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #223 on: February 04, 2016, 03:13:14 AM »
It's getting more beautiful with every update!

I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print the fabric on a very thin, translucent plastic like a vacuform model but without the cutting and sanding.

I would prefer covering the fuselage and wings myself. Although 3D printing is getting better and better, unless you are willing to spend lots of money the surface is never smooth enough to my taste. And 0,3mm wall thickness is a lot. Then perhaps printing the entire wing would be a better idea than covering this delicate frame with a 3D printed surface. But I'm willing to be surprised  :)


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Re: 1/32 Fokker D.III (Early)
« Reply #224 on: February 04, 2016, 03:40:49 AM »
I would prefer covering the fuselage and wings myself.

well don't worry, if I do get around to trying a covered version it will be just that, an alternate version.

Also something to consider is the cost would go up quite a bit, probably double or quadruple, and it is already quite expensive...