Bo,
comes any in 1:48 scale?
Martin
Congratulations on the venture Bo and, as soon as I get round to doing some more German types I'll definitely be ordering.
Best wishes
Nigel
Bo,
Eduard Alb D models have no fuel tank.
Martin
Have you the original size ( deep) for the tanks, so I will build them.
Martin
Brilliant work Bo and well deserved you make some recompense or hopefully profit from all the effort you put into it.
Now a thought. How easy would it be to rehash the magneto's to the other style as fitted to later DVII's as per the BMW Engine in WNW's kit. I'm refering to the front cover mainly which is conical in the centre & the plug leads come out the upper edge as opposed to the terminals on the front. I modded a couple of default mags on one of my DVII's to that type.
I'm sure going to order some of your parts for a future project I have in mind.
Keith
All the best with your new venture Bo
Flugzeugwerke
A most excellent idea.
Ohhhh Bloody Ahhhh, they look lovely Bo.
I reckon it's a most excellent idea to bring a large range of 3-D printed parts to the aftermarket.
Keep on developing!
I'd really like to try your wheel covers with my nasty little rubber tyres (reckon that would get a few modellers excited).
Gorgeous stuff, Bo. I've got an Albie just waiting for such a spinner.
Best wishes
Nigel
Thanks Ondra, you are the guinea pig. :) 8)You're welcome, Bo, it is really exciting to participate on the development. Hopefully next weekend I will post photos.
I am really keen on seeing how big the target group is for these 1/144 parts.
What happens when one crazy guy meets one quite possibly completely crazy guy? :)I am really keen on seeing how big the target group is for these 1/144 parts.
So far the world-wide market is exactly one crazy guy with very good eyes in the Czech Republic :)
Give us a heads up when the Alb parts are available.!!!
Ed
RubberTastic, Bo!
Steven, if you're looking in on this thread, do you have anymore of those fancy white rubbery rings?
vB
RubberTastic, Bo!
Steven, if you're looking in on this thread, do you have anymore of those fancy white rubbery rings?
vB
Hello Nobby
I have a couple of thousand natural rubber o rings.
How does one obtain said rubbery O rings? ;)
vB
RubberTastic, Bo!
Steven, if you're looking in on this thread, do you have anymore of those fancy white rubbery rings?
vB
Hello Nobby
I have a couple of thousand natural rubber o rings.
How does one obtain said rubbery O rings? ;)
vB
Any chance Pfalz DIIIa hubs will be coming soon?
Cheers,
Bob
So I should just transfer my pay to your account I guess?? Definately I will have to order a few of these, and some bombs, and some spinners and som..............
:) Awesome stuff Bo.
James
Looks great BO! What are the chances this would work with a Roden Alb.DIII ?
RAGIII
1:32 Teves und Braun Airfoil Radiator for Albatros D.III, D.V and D.Va
Beginning with early production models of the D.II, Albatros scouts were fitted with Teves und Braun airfoil-shaped radiators mounted in the upper wing. At the time this configuration was thought to have aerodynamic advantages over the Windhoff "ear" radiators mounted on the sides of the fuselage of the preceding D.I and earliest D.II models. Another advantage was that combat damage wouldn't immediately result in all the coolant draining from the cylinder heads, unlike the lower-mounted Windhoffs.
(Nevertheless Any damage to the radiator would certainly put the machine out of action in short enough order.)
Teves und Braun seemed to supply the majority of the radiators fitted to Johannistal-built Albatros D.IIIs and D.Vs; later on Daimler Benz supplied radiators as well and these seem to have been quite common on the D.Va and OAW-built D.IIIs. Incidentally the photographic evidence appears sparse regarding the fitting of the hand-operated shutters in conjuction with the T&B radiators; instead it seems these were exclusive, or nearly so, to the Daimler-Benz radiator equipped machines.
What's in the box?
Your Teves und Braun radiator will arrive in two parts; a single piece representing the radiator core, header tank and tower, and another sprue containing two filler caps and three intake horns. Note that only one each of the cap and horn are needed; the others are provided in case of loss or breakage.
Instructions
Preparing the parts for painting
The parts will arrive with a slightly greasy coating. This should be removed prior to painting.
To remove the coating, scrub them with a toothbrush in ordinary dish washing liquid and rinse thoroughly, or soak them for not more than 5 minutes in a small jar filled with acetone (nail polish remover). Longer exposures than 5 minutes to acetone will start to attack the fine details.
Once the waxy support material is completely removed, the parts will appear white wherever support material was needed during printing. We recommend painting the parts at this stage with a dark color such as Tamiya NATO black; this way you can see muh better what you are doing. In a few spots you will see textured areas and "steps" left over from the printing process; these can be cleaned up by carefully sanding with a sharpened fine grade sanding stick (or similar). With care this can be done without spoiling the details. A filling primer such as Mr. Surfacer 500 can be helpful too, though be careful to keep it out of the core.
Clearing the core slats
As with the prototype, we have modeled the radiator matrix to have spaces between the elements, allowing light to shine through when viewed at just the right angle. As a side effect of the 3D printing process, these cavities will be filled with a waxy gel-like support material. The cleaning process recommended above will not be enough to open these passages. To clean these areas, we suggest you cut pieces of 600 grit sandpaper into strips about 2mm wide and 50mm long. Make 45 degree snips at one end of each strip to form a point. Insert the strip into each slot, one at a time, by holding the sandpaper close to the point with a tweezer or fine pliers and rocking it back and forth until it goes in. Once all the way thru, flip the sandpaper to treat the opposite surface. Repeat with the remaining slats. A fresh stiff strip of paper will be easier to insert (go figure), so save yourself some time and cut lots of strips!
Assembly
Carefully cut a filler cap from the sprue and cement into the hole at the top of the header tower using CA. Cut one of the intake horns from the sprue and CA into the hole in the front of the tower. You may wish to add the mounting straps made from scrap PE, these are the same width as the left and right sides of the radiator and are approximately 2.5mm long. They were on the upper wing only, in each of the 4 corners and oriented with the airflow. You could also add a bolt head detail to each strap where it fastens to the wing. On the bottom, provision is made for you to add a drain cock in the rear of the right side wall. Check your references for these and other details.
Painting
The best information we have is that these radiators were dipped in molten solder and otherwise generally left unpainted and unfinished. Solder left unprotected will rapidly tarnish and turn to a dull grey. Like most things having to do with the Great War, there is plenty of room for interpretation. Check those references!
I can't remember where I was reading it, but apparently Albatros spinners were different depending upon what prop they were going over. Once mated, the prop and spinner were then balanced together - so you might have to do a few...
Looks great BO! What are the chances this would work with a Roden Alb.DIII ?
RAGIII
Thanks Rick :) I Haven't tried it yet, but I think if one were to cut the right size hole, it should work ok. (Care to try it for me? I'll supply the radiator :) ) The bigger question for me is whether it will work on a D.II. I need to research whether the airfoil section of the D.I/D.II was similar to the D.III/D.V and/or whether the radiators were the same...
How about filler caps for the top of the Albatros fuel tank?
I'm nervous about the louvers being warped on the radiator? What are your thoughts?
oops. bought two single spinners instead of the two pack.all well. looking forward to them
steve
but the technology around you still lags behind :-{
I agree, Bo
I can only dream the moment when we can design and print any model that we wish and possibly have a stash back-uped in an hard disk.
We are only a few and the 3-d printing is opening new possibilities.
Now we need only a better definition (possibly it is already there)
and ... pigments - yes, just imagine if we could have our models not only 3-d printed, but also coloured.
Imagine a albatros wing that comes printed in Aviattic lozenges
The card-modellers are lucky here... a lot of time is spared
What is FXD? Is that the material they're made from?
Need to get this next I guess.
James
I have heard that sonic cleaners work great too, I don't happen to have one...
I have heard that sonic cleaners work great too, I don't happen to have one...
Mine is like this one http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-Frankford-Arsenal-EZ-Sonic-Cleaner-Free-Shipping-/400924336454?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d58f3e146
There are others a bit cheaper also. Great for the airbrush and cleaning resin, and my wife throws her rings in also. Use mine probably once or twice a week for past 4 years.
James
Thanks for sharing that Rick. My part is dimensionally based entirely on the WNW part, and indeed they appear to have gotten it right. It makes senses that the D.III radiator would be interchangeable, after all the D.V/a wings essentially were as well...
My question remains whether the D.II (wing-mounted) radiator was also interchangeable. I suspect they might be, but I confess I haven't done the research.
Nice, verrrrrry nice........................................Do not forget the badges for "Benzin" and "Öl" on the top of the tank, Bo.
Awesome BO! You are making it WAY TOO TEMPTING to purchase an OAW DVa :-\ If you did the parts to convert to a DV I would cease to resist!
RAGIII
Hey Bo,
I've just ordered the fuel tank and 2 spinners, now just the wait for production and shipping to the UK. Fantastic parts, I look forward to seeing more of your parts in the future.
Mike
Hi Bo,
Just received a bunch of your items from Shapeways. Really nice stuff. One question though. I notice the parts are thin so do you recommend using a primer coat before painting?
Thanks,
Mike
Hey Bo,
I've just ordered the fuel tank and 2 spinners, now just the wait for production and shipping to the UK. Fantastic parts, I look forward to seeing more of your parts in the future.
Mike
Hey Bo,
I've just ordered the fuel tank and 2 spinners, now just the wait for production and shipping to the UK. Fantastic parts, I look forward to seeing more of your parts in the future.
Mike
Hi Bo,
My order arrived yesterday. Perfect service from Shapeways and well packed. As for the tank and spinners, just perfect. Many thanks
Mike
Will you be doing cowling and metal panels?
Recommendation for covering the frame?
Shame Jasta B did not use the Halberstadt D.II/III.
Great! Will you be selling this via Shapeways?
George
Someone had to break the ice....
Then:
Any figure for the price? :)
Someone had to break the ice....
Then:
Any figure for the price? :)
The parts shown so far should total around $95 -- however I must warn that this is subject to change if further mods are necessary -- for instance if I have to add more sprues to keep the parts from warping, etc.
Can't say yet what the other parts will cost because I haven't designed them yet :) But $115 - $120 is a target price I'm shooting for for the whole package, we'll see if that's doable.
Outstanding work, Bo.
It looks for me in the pictures, as the elevator and rudder could movable mounted, right? ???
Looks extremely nice. Just a question: do you intend to leave some room in the wing girders where you could add some brass rods or square profile in orde to strengthen the 3D print and to avoid sagging of the wing on the long run? Or is that absolutely unnecessary?
regards,
Ivo
I don't think resin would be an alternative though for the wings.nor the fuselage!
Maya or Rhino, Bo?
Bo,
Really beautiful work!
Is there any chance that last set could be scaled down to 1/48? That would make it much easier to convert the Special Hobby D.II to a D.III.
Drew
Bo,
Really beautiful work!
Is there any chance that last set could be scaled down to 1/48? That would make it much easier to convert the Special Hobby D.II to a D.III.
Drew
Thanks Drew!
As for your question: in theory yes, but tolerances are set to minimum values (wall thickness, wire sizes) for production in 1/32, so it is not a simple matter of reducing by 75% -- they would have to be remastered as they will be unprintable in the smaller scale. But the bigger potential problem is I would doubt they would actually fit the SH kit without tailoring the parts specifically to it -- and I don't have that kit.
(http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh640/UncleTony1917/FokkerD3/Screen%20Shot%202016-02-02%20at%206.35.09%20PM_zpspy7qjiwh.png)
I almost take it for granted that underneath this cowling, the Taurus engine will fit.
regards,
Ivo
;D ;D ;D
(http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii626/d4rkgimp/BoHopper_zps2s79o9kl.jpg)
I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print the fabric on a very thin, translucent plastic like a vacuform model but without the cutting and sanding.
Just a thought.....
I wonder if it would be possible to 3D print the fabric on a very thin, translucent plastic like a vacuform model but without the cutting and sanding.
I would prefer covering the fuselage and wings myself.
Looks great, Bo! When do you estimate will this be available for purchase?
George
Mm every body get an reply on their question and iam not.... Ok ??? was just wondering if the quality is better with shapeways now a days.....
Ron
I can't imagine this sprue being printed in any other orientation than you've shown, otherwise it would be very awkward to print.
I can't imagine this sprue being printed in any other orientation than you've shown, otherwise it would be very awkward to print.
Heh, you'd think that, but you would be wrong. I've seen them print things like this with it sitting in the tray on an angle!
Ordered. Shapeways promised to deliver the last week of february. This will become a light blue LVA version orange markings and perhaps a streaked wing. Not sure about how translucent it should be. On the few pictures not much is shining through.
regards,
Ivo
Am I missing something? I don't see the Fokker D.III on Bo's Shapeways page.
Bo,
If I am correct, the wings would have a wire in the trailing edge. Is there a notch or hole to feed these through?
Really beautiful, Bo. I guess the Radiator will be available via your shapeways shop?
S.
| product | sku | link | price (regular/FUD) | price (premium/FXD) |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Early Fuselage (http://shpws.me/LzMy) | PZFLLT7NK | http://shpws.me/LzMy | $35.49 | $59.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Mid/Late Fuselage (http://shpws.me/LXAY) | HAPC9MY68 | http://shpws.me/LXAY | $50.99 | $87.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Early/Mid (M19F) Wings (http://shpws.me/LzMJ) | CDCF269Q4 | http://shpws.me/LzMJ | $62.49 | $97.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Late (M19K) Wings (http://shpws.me/LXB9) | 25W7B6SNR | http://shpws.me/LXB9 | $65.99 | $101.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories A* (http://shpws.me/LzMs) | 7UBXWFZER | http://shpws.me/LzMs | $45.99 | $68.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories B3** (https://www.shapeways.com/product/5XAVYJYAZ) | 5XAVYJYAZ | https://www.shapeways.com/product/5XAVYJYAZ | $27.99 | $36.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories B4 & B5** (https://www.shapeways.com/product/UPESLGAN9) | UPESLGAN9 | https://www.shapeways.com/product/UPESLGAN9 | $19.99 | $26.99 |
Could this kite be covered with tissue like a balsa kit?
I would like to experiment with my shrink wrap technique. Two questions; can I order just one wing to start with? And to your knowledge, will the XFD melt or warp with a bit of heat from a blow dryer?
Thanks,
George
Ok, I see that my first question is already addresses in another post... :-[
Bo, what do you recommend to cover these? Japan tissue, silkspan or something else? How would you recommend attaching it? There are lots of tutorials online for applying those coverings to balsa airplanes with dope or craft glue, but I have not found any relating to polymer frames. Any thoughts, oh Great One? ;)
Regards,
Bob
Bo
is it possible this acessory set B in 1:48?
As additionary for for the Special Hobby Fokker D II?
Cheers
Martin
Excellent work Bo, congratulations - 3D printing is a future - My handjob is already outdated:)
How much cost shipping to Polish? I understand, from you can buy a piecemeal?
I have already engine:) Now I begin to raise money on the rest of
Regards
Simon
The only downside with my order is that the order status, apart from the late wing which has shifted to pre-production, is still in the processing phase. Don't know why as Bo's parts have already been produced.
regards,
Ivo
Have you tryed a fiberglass scratch pen to defuzz parts.I use on all the time to polish out inperfections .it acts as a fine grit sandpaper but is about 3/16" round.
Hi Bo,
Do you know if there is any difference in hardness and strength in materials between the FUD and XFD? From my understanding, the difference is in the level of detail, but if one is stronger than the other that could make a difference for my experiments.
Thanks!
George
Thanks Bo and Ivo, Thanks Bob for cooperation offer. I will not fail to use. :)
At the beginning, I order fuselage and accessories A , and I wonder , to choose which the wings.
Whether there some references to the Fokker D.III – Windsock or others ??
Regards
Simon
At the beginning, I order fuselage and accessories A , and I wonder , to choose which the wings.
Thank you very much for being so accurate information. This Fokker D.III exceptionally interested me. I think, that several elements of cabins equipment with WNW Fokker E. IV become feasible to use
Regards
Simon
Very nice! Today, I received my Shapeways order and I'm thrilled with the results. I'm no stranger to products, print methods, cost and limitations. I always pay for the highest resolution offered. Having said that, While this is pricey, it is as good as anything I've purchased from them. If you did nothing but put this together, it is a fantastic little structure. Anything you add will just make it that much better. Haven't even soaked these parts yet, but my initial response is a product that exceeded my expectations.
I think a round of applause is needed for your pioneering efforts in expanding our modelling horizons!!! I dont know you personally sir,but I salute you.I am contemplating buying your wonderful creation and wondering if I can make it fly.If the all up weight is below 16 grams it might fly?
I think a round of applause is needed for your pioneering efforts in expanding our modelling horizons!!! I dont know you personally sir,but I salute you.I am contemplating buying your wonderful creation and wondering if I can make it fly.If the all up weight is below 16 grams it might fly?
Hello,
incredible work! I followed these developments for a while and I'm blown away. Are there any possibilities to reduce these 3D graphics for 1/48builders too? I'd print me a Fokker, if it were possible :)
Bo, another question, though. Most photos of D.IIIs show a prominent stringer running lengthwise mid fuselage. Udet's machine for example. I don't see this on the model's frame.
Drew
Is there a chance to have the late fuselage during this free shipping week, Bo?
I understand that the anular ties that support the fuselage tubes where They meet are added for stength since They were not there in the real aircraft: is there any chance to have a fuselage without them?
Er me
Hi I'd be interested in the late fuselage also Where would one get decals for this? I'll order as soon as the late fuselage is availible
The damage to my upper wing supports wouldn't have been avoided this way. It was pushed more or less sideways, breaking the upper hroizontal supports from their columns and that would require some cross reinforcements
regards,
Ivo
These parts are available now to the early adopters strictly at cost. These are parts that frankly I think can be scratched or sourced from elsewhere, but I decided to include them in future releases for completeness sake.Yes, for sure they can be scratched. However sometimes I'm lazy and I'm impressed with the accuracy of the 3D printed parts I have already recieved.
Thank for doing the extras Bo.
I've just ordered them plus all the other bits for the early version.
Regards
Russell
Bo,
I just ordered the fuel tank. I was wondering if it would be practical to manufacture the control mechanisms for the Albatros DV ailerons? ( For those of us needing to convert a DVa) The control column would be nice but is probably manageable even to me :-)
RAGIII
PS: I tried once and failed miserably :-[
Bo,
I just ordered the fuel tank. I was wondering if it would be practical to manufacture the control mechanisms for the Albatros DV ailerons? ( For those of us needing to convert a DVa) The control column would be nice but is probably manageable even to me :-)
RAGIII
PS: I tried once and failed miserably :-[
First off, thanks, I hope you enjoy it, Rick.
Second: do you mean the fairings or the semi circular pulleys? Or both?
Hmmm, I might give it a go...
Thanks BO. By the way once everyone knows the original kit fairings are at the wrong angle everyone will need some 8)
RAGIII
are the new parts actually available?Hi Ermeio
i cannot find any trace of them on Shapeways.
by the way.... prices applied by Shapeways vary with country of delivery and in order to have these parts here in italy i will pay some 40% more than if they were delivered to USA or to Swiss....
and this with free shipping.
a fuselage costs more than 31 euro which is more than 35 usd.
by the way.... prices applied by Shapeways vary with country of delivery and in order to have these parts here in italy i will pay some 40% more than if they were delivered to USA or to Swiss....
and this with free shipping.
a fuselage costs more than 31 euro which is more than 35 usd.
Love this Bo,
Is there a work in progress or a completed model anywhere to see?
Do you have an option to buy the whole kit - ie all the sets together as a package?
I just ordered the mid late version Will there be an instruction manual for the mid late version or maybe some extra pages we could print with the diferences of the wings Also a rigging diagram would be great I hope you sell enough to justify doing some other planes Hint: any float plane from Short maybe the 184
but if you wouldn't mind sending them my way first so I could at least see what parts I need to replicate, then I could forward them on to RAG III.
I just received my mid late fuselage and wings and accesarys I'd just like to thank Bo for this All I can say is WOW this is really cool
Bo,
will those profiles be made available as prints as well?
S.
Bo,
will those profiles be made available as prints as well?
S.
OK, I took the plunge and ordered a radiator. Since I have a ......ah...few Albies in the stash, I figured I'd better see what one looks like, and if I can wrangle it into a build. I'll be in touch...
I concur Bo's is probably the right size. It gets my vote of confidence.
Keith
This is intended for a WNW kit. I do have an Encore Albie D.II, and it had occurred to me that Bo may design a rad for that kit. I'm patient, and time will tell. I'm going to have to follow my budget and purchase the Shapeways DVII bits I want, but I can fool around with the radiator as well.
Bo,
do you have any idea how tinman was fastened to the fuselage? They only fotos I am aware of are so crappy/blurred/far off, that I can't see anything...
Stefan
Bo,
do you have any idea how tinman was fastened to the fuselage? They only fotos I am aware of are so crappy/blurred/far off, that I can't see anything...
Stefan
Since Udet's "observer" was a flat piece of painted metal sheet, I assume it was mounted using simple L-shaped brackets.
Hi Bo are these early or mid/late ? I love the Moritz
Hi Bo I saw that some photoetch will be available for this Any Idea when it might be available Thanks
Yes, Let me know when the Photo Etch is ready!
David Layton
Any word on the photoetch for this Thanks
Any news on the photo etch or decals Thanks
Just did for a double, expect delivery by the end of the month.
Thanks Bo.
Ed
Looks fantastic Bo!
If you don’t mind sharing, what technique did you use to simulate the finish on your metal cowling?
| product | sku | link | price (regular/FUD) | price (premium/FXD) |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Early Fuselage (http://shpws.me/LzMy) | PZFLLT7NK | http://shpws.me/LzMy | $35.49 | $59.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Mid/Late Fuselage (http://shpws.me/LXAY) | HAPC9MY68 | http://shpws.me/LXAY | $50.99 | $87.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Early/Mid (M19F) Wings (http://shpws.me/LzMJ) | CDCF269Q4 | http://shpws.me/LzMJ | $62.49 | $97.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Late (M19K) Wings (http://shpws.me/LXB9) | 25W7B6SNR | http://shpws.me/LXB9 | $65.99 | $101.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories A (http://shpws.me/LzMs) | 7UBXWFZER | http://shpws.me/LzMs | $45.99 | $68.49 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories B3 (https://www.shapeways.com/product/5XAVYJYAZ) | 5XAVYJYAZ | https://www.shapeways.com/product/5XAVYJYAZ | $27.99 | $36.99 |
| 1:32 Fokker D.III Accessories B4 & B5 (https://www.shapeways.com/product/UPESLGAN9) | UPESLGAN9 | https://www.shapeways.com/product/UPESLGAN9 | $19.99 | $26.99 |
great news!
which fuse/wings would you recommend for Udet's "phantom observer" bus?
superb. thanks for the info. i'm deffo in for the tin man, once my bank account recovers from the Weta sale.
it will be my first stick 'n' tissue adventure since my dad and i built a Guillow's Camel for Mr. Brown. we decided to pass on the rigging. this will never happen again...
Nice. So will your old cylinders fit?
Hi Bo,
Have you ever thought about doing a Kickstarter to help purchase a high end duplicator?
I'm sure you would more than repay your backers with state of the art products.
Put me down as one of your backers if you do...Happy to invest as I'm sure many of the family in here would.
vB :)
two questions:
does the total cost of the D.III go up or down, and by how much?
| part...................................................... | old price....... | new price...... |
| Fuselage Early, Smooth | 59.99 | 60.86 |
| Wings Early/Mid, Smooth | 62.49 | 69.05 |
| Acc Sprue A, Smoothest | 69.49 | 92.18 |
| Acc Sprue B3, Smoothest | 39.99 | 42.43 |
| Acc Sprue B4 & B5, Smoothest | 26.99 | 28.51 |
would you consider selling 3d models to end users to print under a 'personal use' license? the idea is there are probably more mugs like me that would be delighted to print the parts locally...
When this stuff came into the model world ,I remember that majority thinking had this service for printing masters , which could then be moulded. Maybe bringing that thinking back into focus could be returning.
i know you've got no free time Bo but i do hope you still plan on doing that Albatros book...
Bo, Is it possible to get the synchronizer in 1/28 scale like your flight compass? I’m getting ready to correct the Revell D. VII.
Thanks, Kevin