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Offline Old Man

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2014, 11:56:47 PM »
Further progress on this, my friends....

First, here are the wings, finished on both surfaces, with ailerons made but not yet painted or attached:





Framework on undersurfaces is drawn in with ordinary pencil before painting, and painting is stopped while it still shows through. The roundel indication on the undersurface of the upper wing was put in by drawing with a red water color marker, which was then spread about with Future on a brush; this was done before framework was drawn in, but after rib indications were scored in.
 
Here are the blanks for the tail surfaces:





These are made from 0.30" inch sheet (0.75mm). They are just tacked in place temporarily to check that everything actually fits together before I put in ribs and such.

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2014, 03:46:57 AM »
Very interesting to see more of your techniques demonstrated here. I am learning more from each posting. Those wings are just mind-blowing.

Thank you for the very clear explanation of how to make a control wheel. Glad to read that others have modelling sins that need concealing too!

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2014, 12:45:02 PM »
Absolutely AWESOME! The see through is perfect!
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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2014, 10:18:52 PM »
Absolutely AWESOME! The see through is perfect!
RAGIII


I second that  :)




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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2014, 10:25:06 PM »
You are doing a stunning job Old Man, the translucence of the wing is just amazing, very well done.

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2014, 12:33:33 PM »
Thank you, my friends.

Bit of further progress here: the wings are assembled to a unit and structural rigging put in....





Here is a look at the fuselage and wings in something close to their proper relation....





Just about everything in front of the leading edge of the wings will be the Sunbeam motor on its bearers and frames.
 
When the time comes, the center of the lower wing will be cut away with a razor saw, and fitted to the fuselage sides. Then the cabane struts will be added. This machine was a 'folder', with the wings constructed to fold back alongside the fuselage, hence the interplane struts alongside the fuselage sides. The struts were of oval section steel tube, without further fairing, and I think it most likely the naval habit of slathering grey paint on anything metal at sea would apply.
 
Putting in detail on the tail pieces and fuselage is on the card for next week, but I will soon run out of excuses to put off doing the motor any longer....

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 01:33:32 PM »
Your construction processes are AWESOME! I can't even imagine building that wing cellule and rigging it before assembly like a normal kit. So well thought out and well done!
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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2014, 01:36:25 PM »
Excellent progress OM, I like your idea of building the wings as a separate unit.

Ian

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2014, 07:27:18 PM »
Amazing work, OM.  How you talented teeny scale builders do it, I
can't fathom, but man what you produce is gorgeous.  This one
is no exception.  Beautiful work, my friend.

Cheers,
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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2014, 07:54:40 PM »
Your construction processes are AWESOME! I can't even imagine building that wing cellule and rigging it before assembly like a normal kit. So well thought out and well done!
RAGIII

+1.  Fascinating and lovely work OM!  ThAnks for sharing the details.

Cheers,

Bob

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2014, 08:01:22 PM »
Goodness me this is looking good OM. I can't wait to see your further updates.

Best wishes
Nigel

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2014, 09:11:25 PM »
This looks brilliant, I love the finish on the wings.

Tom

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2014, 09:37:35 PM »
A fascinating building technique you have adopted for the wings Old Man, and it has worked beautifully, well done and I am eager to see your next update.

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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2014, 02:01:56 AM »
Truly stunning work, OM!  This is shaping up to be your best yet, and with all the marvelous gems that have come from your bench, that's saying a lot.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Short Type 827 (converted), RNAS Mesopotamia, 1915, in 1/72
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2014, 02:43:16 AM »
Truly stunning work, OM!  This is shaping up to be your best yet, and with all the marvelous gems that have come from your bench, that's saying a lot.
Cheers,
Bud

Totally agree with this statement  :)



Terri
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Body and life is a vessel we use to travel the planet . Femininity is the gift , The miracle comes from what we do with it .