Author Topic: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72  (Read 22540 times)

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2014, 05:37:20 PM »
However, they noticed that some of the hangar is wearing some kind of material, much like canvas or perhaps sheet metal (probably lead).

It certainly won't be lead! Lead is far too heavy and soft. It looks like what's commonly known as corrugated iron, which is actually corrugated steel sheet that usually has a coating of zinc (i.e is galvanised).

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2014, 02:29:49 AM »
Hristo,
   It's been a while since I checked on this Thread; magnificent work still! Very impressive, and the level of skill required to get results such as this in  1:72 Scale is something you can be very proud of. Nice Work!!!
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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2014, 03:39:08 AM »
They look very much like wood to me - corrugated iron would not have had such wide spacing between the vertical sections. In addition I do not think that the Central Powers had enough zinc or steel to make such buildings by 1917, so they would have used non-strategic materials instead, i.e. wood. Probabaly pine but could have been sourced locally depending upon what was growing in local woods.

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2014, 06:34:05 PM »
Hello everyone,
Thank you all for your help. Squiffy you're right that the lead sheets are unlikely solution to the shell of the hangar. For corrugated steel sheet may likely solution for the area of the corner because that is used for hangar 1. This can be seen in these pictures:



From this picture of Hangar 3 is evident that they used a material like cloth (perhaps pleated like oilcloth):


Lone modeler you're right that the consequence of the use of sheet metal in a time of war is unlikely. Also, then they probably have used everything they have in hand. So I think I can conclude that the most likely materials used are as follows: for gable front facade is used planking and top coated fabric is applied (used later to cover the entire hangar); corners is crimped metal sheets(corrugated steel sheet); the side walls wood siding. What do you think of this definition?

lcarroll thanks for the support and encouragement.

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Hristo

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2014, 10:20:34 PM »
I think the sides of the hangar in the first photo in your previous post (the one with blocks of colour) are corrugated iron. The spacing of the verticals looks right for corrugated iron, as does the way it appears to be made of overlapping panels.

Why would corrugated iron not be used? Surely there was plenty of it about? Hundreds of thousands of sheets of the stuff were used in the trenches so I'm sure a couple of hundred could be spared to build a hangar.

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2014, 11:18:16 PM »
Squiffy, I think you are absolutely right about for blue area of the first picture in a previous post, and I think that is covered with corrugated iron. What do you think that the green zone is the same?

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2014, 05:28:23 AM »
It looks like a hodge podge of construction materials to me.  The green portion looks like wood framing with canvas sheet as the wall material.  The forward portion is most likely corrugated sheet metal.  The one hangar front piece over the doors looks like overlapped wood, the other one is the framing with canvas sheet.  Whatever you decide to go with, you will probably be correct as it doesn't appear as if any two hangars were built the same.

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #67 on: July 11, 2014, 05:17:50 AM »
I completely agree with Mark's comments and I would go along with those.

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #68 on: July 11, 2014, 05:43:46 AM »
It`s a very impressive project! I always admire poeple, who are able to superdetail 72nd scale models up to such high standards!
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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2014, 06:38:36 PM »
Hello to all
For quite time since I didn't posted in the topic, because here it is summer and I do not have much time for hobbies. Here's what I finished in short: I closed fuselages of the aircrafts and as many of the details in the cabin were scratch build that lead to the opening of large gaps that require more work. I added some additional detail on the tabs at the connection of the ailerons and elevators - they use the method of Vincent, the topic of his Albatros which offer my thanks for sharing it. Also, several control openings, drainage pipes from the underside of the fuselage, and the other photo-eched details of the set.
I put the landing gear frame and inclined leg to the upper wing.
I already have four monoplane  :P.
Here are some pictures:












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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2014, 08:05:01 PM »
just seen this for the first time, wow fair play. great work ;)
‘I hate to shoot a Hun down without him seeing me, for although this method is in accordance with my doctrine, it is against what little sporting instincts I have left.’ (James McCudden, VC, RFC, 1917).

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2014, 08:18:35 PM »
Your attention to detail is impeccable, the hinges on the rudder, elevators and ailerons are amazing especially in such a small scale, well done.

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2014, 09:27:25 PM »
Beautiful work so far, so much detail for such a small scale.

As for the hangars, there is a slightly clearer reproduction of the photo in Volume 1 of the Albatros book on Jasta 5. It looks to me that the green portion is also corrugated metal, although it's still hard to tell.

Wood or metal, I think this will make a brilliant diorama.

Tom

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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2014, 11:05:51 PM »
I am amazed every time I look at a new update at the detail you are putting into your builds! Each time I have to remind myself that this is 1/72nd!!
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Re: Jagdstaffel 5 - july 1917 - Albatros D.V - 1:72
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2014, 11:52:00 PM »
yep great stuff, well done on all counts Frame!