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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #90 on: August 16, 2024, 10:48:07 PM »
Everything is looking great Dutch! I love the swirls and the weathering is coming along quite nicely!
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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #91 on: August 17, 2024, 02:53:15 AM »
Thank you, Rick!

Willem, I had NOT seen that, thanks for the link!

Nigel, yes, the "one more pass" I mentioned still needs to get done, I'm just trying to figure out what color to do it with... I think the Abteilung "Engine Grease" needs a touch of black to darken it to the proper grimy shade...

Sandy, thanks, and while the Pfalz Eindecker was apparently a bit of a clunker compared to the Fokker product, it'd still be neat to see it in 1:32.

And Bertl, is the correct German spelling Eindecker or Eindekker? I've seen it spelled both ways.

It's particularly interesting to see backlit photos of the Pfalz and Fokkers side by side, they show pretty conclusively that the former was covered with a very light, whitish CDL, while the Fokker fabric was completely opaque, either painted or doped with the "straw", beige, or yellow color mentioned in British and French combat reports.

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #92 on: August 17, 2024, 04:03:05 AM »
Hi Dutch,

Eindecker is the correct German spelling.
The translation program often changes the “ck” to “kk”.
Depending on the translation program, the word “Eindecker” becomes monoplane or Eindekker.
Eindekker (with double k) is more of a Dutch spelling.

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #93 on: August 17, 2024, 05:30:27 AM »
Eindekker (with double k) is more of a Dutch spelling. 

I'm not a nitpicker, but in Dutch it would be Eendekker

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #94 on: August 17, 2024, 07:05:32 AM »
Vielen dank en heel erg bedankt!

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2024, 07:44:28 PM »
Eindekker (with double k) is more of a Dutch spelling. 

I'm not a nitpicker, but in Dutch it would be Eendekker

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Willem

........ with four “E” and double “K”  ...... but only one wing  ;)

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #96 on: August 21, 2024, 01:04:54 PM »
Thank you Willem and Bertl, I just love languages. If instead of trying to learn every language I've ever been exposed to I'd just studied one I'd probably be fluent, rather than simply knowing how to say "Hello/Goodbye", Please", "Thank you", "Beer", and "Where's the bathroom/WC?" in a dozen.

Anyway, I managed to spend a good part of the day working on the E.I, which gets grungier and grungier as we go along (weathering over the mixed yellow/Feldgrau prototype Aviattic E.I set):



There's still a great deal left to do, especially on the fuselage sides and towards the rear on the bottom, but the technique I'm evolving requires building up the effect slowly, with multiple transparent layers. 

Unfortunately I realized tonight that WNW may have made a couple of errors in their decals; the werkenummer, according to the Aeronaut Eindecker "Bible", should be 263, not 262 as the kit decals have it. Also, the "E13/15" may be oversize, and in the wrong location. But it's too late to correct either particular at this point in the game. I've been working on this build since January, and I really want to button it up and move on to Wintgen's triple-gunned monster (see pieces of which scattered around my workbench).

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #97 on: August 21, 2024, 06:10:03 PM »
Now that's looking really good. I am not in favour of over-weathering WWI aircraft, but the Eindecker is one of those where it's hard not to go too far!

Looks like there may be an EIV race going on soon....... ;)

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #98 on: August 21, 2024, 07:13:17 PM »
Amazing progress Dutch! I really love how the staining turned out! It will definitely be saved for a future build for me  ;)

Also the swirls look perfekt! I guess you hand painted all those? Must have taken quite a while to get done! Hov did you manage to get the consistency of the paint just right? I would imagine it slowly drying on the palette causing some issues.
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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2024, 10:19:35 PM »
Lovely Grunge Dutch! It's a shame about the decal errors but I am sure Aviattic will fix future versions.
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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #100 on: August 22, 2024, 01:29:55 PM »
Thanks guys, Rick, do you know something the rest of us don't...? :D Ben, I'm actually using silver calligraphy ink and a crowquill dip pen... if I get the sworls dialed in to the point where I'm happy with them I'll do a post on the technique. And absolutely, Nigel, the grunge is one of the things that drew me to the Eindecker (or Eendekker) in the first place...

Anyway, I took part of today and kept at the E.I, she's finally up on all three legs now (or ten, if you count all the struts):



The undercarriage was festooned with a spiderweb of pre-rigging, which will get tightened and touched up after everything gets glued in place (it's just press-fit into the fuselage now, one of the joys of modeling the Wingnut way):


 
And finally, there are many joys associated with having children, but one of the coolest, I'm finding, is when they rediscover WWI aircraft modeling thirty years on and start giving you awesome stuff:



The Xuron photo-etch shears were a random gift from my son Curt, who's finishing up his own 1:72 E.III tonight. Eindecker madness (Eindecker Wahnsinn?) is contagious, it seems. Or as Nigel observed, the family who builds Fokkers together, stays together...

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #101 on: August 22, 2024, 04:30:47 PM »
Thanks for the answer Dutch - it's a very interesting approach and the results look great!

The Fokker is turning out just lovely! The grimy look is just something you dont see many people try and you are definitely setting the bar high  ;)
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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #102 on: August 22, 2024, 06:03:19 PM »
The EI is looking lovely, and the EIV in the background also looks very nice! You've definitely got my Eindecker juices flowing (work starts later today on mine...).

Interesting approach with the calligraphy ink and pen, I'm looking forward to seeing how you do that. I have various silver marker pens lined up to try out when I come to do trhe sworling.

Have you done anything to counteract potential wing droop? Or will you use the rigging to prevent that?

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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #103 on: August 22, 2024, 10:52:00 PM »
The shears look like they work a Treat! Your Eindeckers are gorgeous as I have said before. Finally, No, I have No inside info from Aviattic. I just don't recall Richard ever leaving something alone if Proven to be incorrect  8)
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Re: Projekt Eindecker: WnW Fok. E.I (Early)
« Reply #104 on: August 22, 2024, 11:13:17 PM »
Dutch,
    I am really enjoying this log, and learning a lot! Your detail work is impressive and the overall finish is, in a word, spectacular. Keep up the great work and enjoy it right to the finish line!
Cheers,
Lance