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Offline Ian from Doncaster

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2013, 11:18:24 PM »
A little more progress last night - lozenge applied to the top surface of the lower wings, along with rib tapes.  Started to do the edge tapes too, but I find that very fiddly.  The decals are sealed with klear, and I will dull down later.  I have not done any rib shading, but I may dust some pastels between the rib tapes after the mattcote is applied.




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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2013, 11:25:38 PM »
Looks great Ian!  This is shaping up beautifully. ;D  Good luck with the final sprint. ;)

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2013, 01:16:37 AM »
Hello Ian:

The leadging edge rib tape looks good.  I haven't done that to any of my models as it is too fiddly, but it does look good, and I have to try it.  Looking forward to seeing you wrap it up.  Looks good so far.

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Mark
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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2013, 02:04:46 AM »
Good morning Ian,
This is very impressive work. I like the Edelweiss scheme very much. The black is striking. I just completed an Albatross in this scheme, but fortunately for me it did not have lozenge decals. Your application of the lozenge looks really good. I am somewhat intimidated by these decals, in particular I don't know if I would be able to trim them carefully enough without tearing them or making them uneven at the edges. Silly question, perhaps, but do you trim after they are completely dry, in which case won't they curl over the edges?
Looking forward to seeing more,
Cheers,
John

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2013, 02:55:52 AM »
Ian,

Looking great and good progress, too.  Is it all still going together nicely?

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2013, 05:56:10 AM »
Thanks everyone.. :)

Dave this kit is holding together very well - with all the handling I have not broken any extremities yet!  Everything fits together nicely.  I have got a slight offset between the wing/horizontal tailplane which is odd given the way the wing and tail assembled to the fuselage.  You can only see this from a front on view, and is only slight.  I can see it, but I'm not too worried.

Mark, John, the edge tape is fiddly.  It takes ages to get one piece started, to get the folds over the edges, but once started it goes down ok.  It hides any roughness of the edges of the lozenge strips.  The lozenge itself goes down very well, and is quite robust.  If I was more patient I would make a paper template for each length - then with careful cutting the strips would sit perfectly up to the wing edges without need for further trimming.  I have a few rough edges which are hidden, and some that show through when looking closely.  I trim the lozenge after it has dried, one side at a time.  The edges can still lift, so I coat with klear. Also, if I had wanted to add rib shading, I could have applied shading to the lozenge before adding the tapes, then that leaves the tapes clean.

Other WNW kits (the later ones) with lozenge come with pre-shaped and taped sections specific to the surfaces to be covered.  I have yet to try these, but can imagine they will be much quicker to apply.  The rib tapes are not separate so the shading would need a different technique.

Although I am not planning to weather this model as used or dirty, I will apply a matt finish eventually.  I will use this to try out this coating by hand - the planking fuselage structure leans towards lengthwise brushing, and chordwise over the wings, so if there are any brushmarks they will be in the direction of airflow.  I could spray the matt, but would need to mask off the engine and cockpit.
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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2013, 02:56:12 PM »
That's an eye-catching scheme, Ian, and you've rendered it nicely.  Thanks for the tip on doing the edge tape, too. 

Cheers.

Dal.

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2013, 06:24:49 PM »
After a weekend off I carried on with the wing lozenge and rib taping.  Now all that remains is the top wing upper tapes and crosses, and edge taping for most surfaces.  The elevator and rudder are rigged, but the wires are not clear here, I may paint them a metal colour later.  The elevator needs fixing on properly, I will do that later to avoid knocking it off again.

The struts and landing gear, prop etc are all ready to add, but I'll finish the wings (including trimming the repair you can see on the top wing) and then give everything a matt coat before final assembly and rigging.

I placed the top wing on the model for a photo using only the outer struts, and no glue as yet.  No jig used just mk 1 eyeballs and the quality of the kit.  I'm quite happy with the alignment....



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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2013, 01:18:52 AM »
Hello Ian:

It is coming along to be sure.  I like this kit, I haven't built it yet, but I have seen a few done and it is a striking model.  I like the scheme you have chosen and will look forward to seeing the upcoming photos.

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Mark
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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2013, 03:21:11 AM »
Looking very nice now Ian, lovely job.

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Pete.

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2013, 09:03:35 AM »
  Ian,
Wow she's one sweet project my old friend. Great job on the lozenge too.
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Gregory Jouette
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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2013, 08:36:38 PM »
Thanks folks, apart from the fiddly edge tapes this isn't too bad.  I have done a bit of experimentation with dulling down the wings and making the lozenge more matt, for another time I would perhaps use a lighter shade of weathering powder on the mattcote.  I brushed the matt cote roughly in between the rib tapes, to retain their gloss.  Again, next time I would be more careful to keep the rib edges straight, with masking tape.  The rib tapes are sealed with klear first so hopefully would not lift with masking.  Although this is rough and ready, I'm quite happy that whilst not perfect, I don't think I've spoiled the model.  The intention was to dull down the bright WNW lozenge.

Here's some pics of further decaling and the dulling down, with before and after for comparison - I have included the last pic as the ones above prior to dulling down were photographed under different conditions:







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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2013, 10:59:23 PM »
The lozenge certainly looks more realistic dulled down Ian, less stark.

I'm going with the Wood and Wire faded with fabric texture lozenge decals on my build, they look really nice.

Cheers

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2013, 10:59:57 PM »
Very nice work Ian! I think you've achieved your goal--the fabric is nicely toned down and looks slightly weathered.
Nice finish!  I believe that is very difficult to do well without an airbrush, but you have pulled it off very well indeed. Congratulations!

Regards,

Bob

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Re: WNW Roland
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2013, 02:26:34 AM »
I'm not quite understanding the process you used here Ian. I think you applied a matte coat to the lozenge and then when it was dry, followed up with brushed on pastels, and then a final sealing matte coat. Is that correct? The end result is excellent in my opinion.

Cheers,

Chris
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