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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #150 on: November 17, 2019, 03:04:28 AM »
Thank you Ryan, Robin, Ken, Juan, Andreas and Rick fro your nice comments, much appreciated!


If you taught a class on this I would pay.
And instead you get a detailed build report and macro pictures for free 8)


Have you given any thought about how to avoid using the brass tubing sleeves to secure rigging lines to turnbuckles and eyelets?
Believe me, not just once!
That's why I use 0.4mm brass instead of 0.5mm. The next smaller size 0.3 is no more usable, because the inner diameter is only 0.1mm. I tried also a flexible tubing from fishers, very thin, but I found no glue which connects to it.

  I think they look out of scale on my models and couldn't think of a method to replace them with something smaller.
You can also try using 0.4mm brass in your 1/32 scale, will look better beside the 1/32 Gaspatch turnbuckles. I have a fishing line (got some meters at ebay, so I don't know the brand) which go twice through 0.4mm (0.2 inside) tubes.


  On the actual aircraft, the rigging wire is looped back upon itself and another wire binds them together
Later the brass will be painted, so it simulates the bound end of the wire.

So that is the best I can do at the moment for normal rigging. The RAF wires are a different story, where I do not like the Gaspatch solution and have my own solution (see the Bristol Fighter Crocodile report).

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #151 on: November 17, 2019, 06:30:41 AM »
Thanks for relaying your experiences with the tubing.
I am currently using 0.6mm tubes because I have difficulty getting the 0.005" line through a 0.5mm tube (it can be done with difficulty).  Could you measure the thickness of the rigging line you use?  If you use tubing with 0.2 mm inside diameter, the line must be smaller than 0.1 mm (0.0039") diameter?

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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #152 on: November 17, 2019, 09:11:10 AM »
Ken, I measured the fishing line for you, my caliper gauge shows 0.08mm. That was not the thinnest, I asked the ebay for 4 examples, and ordered later some meters of a middle one.
I looked into my old mails, ordered years ago. The name is "Berkley Nanofil", I found it in the internet and it is available in following sizes (all in mm):
0.04 0.06 0.08 0.10 0.12 0.15 0.17 0.20 0.22 0.25 0.28

I rigged my Morane-Saulnier Type N with that line:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9108

The Albatros here and many other models (if no functional rigging is needed) are rigged with a elastic "Rig that thing". There are the sizes Standard, fine and super fine. The label is lost, but I guess this is the standard size (with 0.07mm according to seller). I cant measure it due to its "rubber" nature.
Here is an example of a finished model with painted brass pipes, my Siemens-Schuckert:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9881

Hope it helps,
Frank

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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #153 on: November 17, 2019, 11:17:08 AM »
Hey Frank , nice recovery on making your own struts . It sucks when they break and making repairs can just sink the heart and back in the box it goes . Well for me it does until the frustration with myself is over with that project .



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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #154 on: November 18, 2019, 04:33:24 AM »
Thank you very much Terri for your compassionate words!

back in the box it goes .
Oh yes, the danger is there! To avoid this frustration period I started with new brass struts immediately. After the new ones looks better the frustration was gone and a smile comes back on my face ;)

Do you know Bob Ross and his "happy little trees"?
 I improve my models with those happy little accidents 8)
Another one was the break of the last of four PE for the spoke wheels of my Lebed. At the end the new wheels looked much better.

Cheers,
Frank

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Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 22.11.2019 Rigging
« Reply #155 on: November 23, 2019, 05:20:43 AM »
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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #156 on: November 23, 2019, 06:42:02 AM »
I am away for a couple of days and miss all of the action....1 Brillaint recovery with the broken struts Frank, and the rigging is, as usual with your models, quite exceptional.

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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #157 on: November 23, 2019, 08:48:21 AM »
Excellent detail as always. Many just ignore the ropes on the upper wing even though they are obvious in photos!
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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #158 on: November 23, 2019, 03:48:50 PM »
Can I ask the reason for tinning the new struts Frank,does it serve as a primer?

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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 15.11.2019 Biplane
« Reply #159 on: November 23, 2019, 11:20:10 PM »
Thank you Stephen and Rick!

Dave, I only do not like the yellow brass color, if some paint is lost during mounting, scratches and so on. It will then look more real metallic and not unrealistic golden brass.

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Frank

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Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 23.11.2019 Final
« Reply #160 on: November 24, 2019, 08:58:16 AM »
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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 24.11.2019 Final parts
« Reply #161 on: November 24, 2019, 09:11:12 AM »
Breathtaking result, as usual. Lovely little Albatros!
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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 24.11.2019 Final parts
« Reply #162 on: November 24, 2019, 09:13:14 AM »
Most excellent Frank , looking forward on the final report  :)


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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 24.11.2019 Final parts
« Reply #163 on: November 24, 2019, 10:16:34 AM »
Superb model, Frank.  Thanks for all the info on the rigging line.  I need to go shopping.
Looking forward to more pics in the completed section.


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Re: Albatros W.4, Eduard 1/48, Update 24.11.2019 Final parts
« Reply #164 on: November 24, 2019, 10:48:13 AM »
Outstanding looking model with all those details Frank.  A testament to your skills.