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Offline acewwi

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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2020, 10:23:21 PM »
Updated.  I airbrushed color samples of all of the Vallejo Model Color line and matched them to Methuen codes.  The corresponding matches have been added to the French Five Color below.  I did mix up some colors I especially wanted to test and included the mixes as well.  Two colors that aren't yet perfect matches are 3F5 and 3E5.  The parenthetical code denotes the actual color of the mix.  Please see the attached image of color tests on wings from my parts box.

All the Tamiya colors were matched to Methuen the same way as the Vallejo; by physically painting plastic that had been primed with Tamiya fine grey primer or a color match mix of Stylenrez primer of 1 part grey to 3 parts white.

Stuart


Methuen codes from Windsock Datafiles for French five color camouflage:

Black - 70.950 Black

Beige
4C4
4C5 - 70.882 Middlestone
4D6 - 70.978 Dark Yellow
4E6
5D4
5D5 - 70.824 German Camouflage Orange Ochre
5D6
5E6 - 70.921 English Uniform

Light Green
3C5
3E5 (3E4) - 70.881 Yellow Green
4D4
4D5
4D6 - 70.978 Dark Yellow
30D4
30D5
30D6
30E4 - 70.857 Golden Olive  2 parts : 70.886 Green Grey 3 parts
30E5 - 70.857 Golden Olive 1 part : 70.886 Green Grey 1 part
30E6

Dark Green
3F3
3F5 (3F4) - 70.881 Yellow Green 3 parts : 70.887 US Olive Drab 2 parts
3F6
29F3 - 70.893 US Dark Green
29F4 - 70.888 Olive Grey
29F5 - 70.975 3 parts : 70.872 2 parts
29F6

Chestnut Brown
5E3 - 70.988
5E4 - 70.880
6F5 - 70.826
6F6 - 70.872
6F7
7F5
7F6
7F7

Here are the colors from the Wingnut Wings Salmson 2A2.

Color                 Tamiya              Methuen
CDL                   XF57                  5C3
Beige                 XF59                  5D5
Light Green        XF58:XF3          29E5
Dark Green        XF65                 28F6
Chestnut Brown  XF68                  8F5
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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2020, 07:27:31 AM »
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3085&cat=4

The wnw Salmson is indeed an excellent reference for the 5 color in Tamiya paints! JMHO
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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2020, 02:46:13 PM »
Hi friends,
I used for my Br.XIV (and will use for any further French model) the Mr.Kit paints:
Chestnut Brown      Misterkit MKFR05 Chestnut Brown
Beige         Misterkit MKFR10 Beige
Dark Green      Misterkit MKFR11 Dark Green
Light Green      Misterkit MKFR12 Light Green
Ecru            Misterkit MKFR03 Light Yellow (undersides)

I also used their "Salamander Black" (don't remember the number). I love the finish they have.

As far as I know they are the result of a very accurate research and they are already made, don't need mixing.

Ciao

Antonio

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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 11:18:19 AM »
Antonio,

Where do you get your Mr. Kit paints from?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 05:54:36 PM »
I buy colors directly from the producer: here
https://www.misterkit.com/shop/complex/category/20080521/brand/16992586/
The website is italian but has the English version

Hope it helps

Antonio


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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2020, 10:41:34 AM »
Thanks for posting this, Xan.  It's exactly what I need to correctly match color.
Wayne

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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2020, 05:57:55 PM »
Thank you for posting!

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Re: French 5 colours camouflage 1918
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2020, 11:42:18 AM »
I seemed to have totally missed the Valejo matches. Thanks for that!
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