WNW fokker Eindecker

[coyotemagic]

Great start, Edo.  I'm looking forward to watching this one unfold.
Cheers,
Bud

[Fokker boy]

Looking good so far. Stick with it, as I'll be looking forward to the finished kit.

[mgunns]

Hello Edo:

I agree with the rest here, it is coming along nicely.  The dash is a bit soft on the details isn't it?  I will be watching to see how your scratchbuilt one will turn out.  Looks good so far.

Best

Mark

[Fokker boy]

On some early E's, I've noticed that the ammo box is also swirled, but not always. Is there some sort of rule as to when this was done, and when it was not?

[kornbeef]

On some early E's, I've noticed that the ammo box is also swirled, but not always. Is there some sort of rule as to when this was done, and when it was not?

Well to stick a wooden spoon into the mix and stir. It looks painted Fokker grey/green to me on the science museum example?
Well I would place an image here but Photobucket seems to be totally messed up now.... sighs.... Why can't they leave things alone?
had to switch to firefox... and switch back to the old Photobucket... to be asked if I want to change would have been nice...lol

Anyway theres the pic
Keith

[lcarroll]

I just had the same &^&$^%#^&  experience with Photobucket; had to switch back to the "old" version as well. I sent them a "snotgram" and requested help as they seem to indicate that the option of the "old" system is temporary. Let me know if you figure out how to use the newer version. Old people hate change!!
Cheers,
Lance

[pepperman42]

The sworl question evolves - there's none on the cowl in the pic.....

Steve

[Fokker boy]

I have crystal clear photos, unfortunately they're in an Albatros productions book, so I'm reluctant to upload them. Some photos show swirls, some don't. I have no idea what's what.

[petero]

If the swirls are indeed the result of polishing the metal, how much they show up on photos depends on where the light is coming from, how brightly lit it is, and how contrasty the glass plate negative is.  I would guess that all cowlings started out swirled, as part of the standardized manufacturing process.  Oxidation and dirt could also lessen the effect as the aircraft aged.

Here's a modern example.  NASA's first Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft came from American Airlines, and NASA stripped the American texts and polished the metal underneath.  Some photos show the "ghost" of the American titles very clearly, and others don't show it at all.





Peter

[Fokker boy]

The swirls were intentionally applied for aesthetics by the Fokker company, and were not the default appearance of polishing/machining. The photo below is an example of what we're referring to.

[kornbeef]

Yes, I read they were an attempt to break down the reflectiveness of the ali, I didnt sworl my interior as I know A. F. was a bit of a tightwad and wouldnt spend money or time doing something that wouldnt be needed 



Keith

[Fokker boy]

Yes, I read they were an attempt to break down the reflectiveness of the ali, I didnt sworl my interior as I know A. F. was a bit of a tightwad and wouldnt spend money or time doing something that wouldnt be needed 

Keith

I'll have to double check my references, but it seems that almost all the photos I saw had the swirls on all of the interior metal fuselage parts, but just not always on the ammo box. Your model looks very impressive regardless Keith, but I'd kind of like to answer this question (for my own needs), before I glue my fuselage closed. Sorry for stepping on your thread Edo.

Regards,

[pepperman42]

Seems to be an awful complicated process - why not just paint the whole thing? That being said the pattern should not be confused with the hammering or tapping such as the pattern on Sopwith cowlings (Theres another term its just not coming to me) of sheet metal seen on other types.

Steve

[Edo]

Mmmm...
No hijacking at all, my friends!
Actually very interesting discussion....
Ciao
Edo

[Edo]

Hi guys!
Time for a quick update.

I know that I am diverging from the kit's instructions, but I am too much tempted by spoked weels not to give it a try.

First I build a jig:


As you can see I deviated from Steven's great tutorial. In fact I wanted to make the front spokes and the abck ones not allined, so for the front I used the lower holes, and for the back the upper ones: this way the spokes diverged by 10 degrees.

This is the result:









Not the best pictures, I know, but the results seem incouraging....
Just a fiew notes:
-each side has 2 spokes per point one passing left and the other passing right the hub,
-the size of the hub itself is very critical: too long and it will become virtually impossible to join the rims,
-a very long monofilament is needed (almost 4 mt), so consider this before starting,
-maybe I used a too thick mono (0,2mm) as this effects also how the rims go together, as the thickness of the spokes makes it more difficult to join the rims afterwords,
-joining the rim is, IMO, the most difficult part as a big force has to be applied to bend the spokes and it is not easy to find a clamp the size of the protractor (I cut the weel free before joining the rims which I did afterwords with normal clamps),
-in the light of the above, mybe it is useful not to tension the spokes too much, but then how much tension becomes critical and not easy to guess....

Hope this helps, and also I hope you could find some solution to my troubles... I still have one more wheel to go...

Ciao
Edo