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Offline NinetythirdLiberator

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Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« on: January 29, 2018, 03:26:41 PM »
All,

I started this one today and got the basic fuselage done along with the interior.  It fits just like the Avro Spider, that is...perfectly. 

The "kit":



And progression on the fuselage:







Notice the little compass on the floor.  Neat detail on this one.

I'll start adding the skins soon.

Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 01:29:48 AM »
All,

I started skinning the fuselage and it turned out OK but could be better. 

First, to locate the mid wing which has some critical alignment cutouts, I cut my spar, sanded it a bit (needs to be 0.5mm thick) and inlaid a wire for strength along it's length...then I slipped in in temporarily which helped the first skin attachment.  I then added a piece that goes on the underside and all fit extremely well.







Then the excitement started.  It was a struggle putting the rest of the skins on mostly due to me not looking at the parts carefully enough.  I like using paper tabs to help slide sections together and I simply looked at the instructions showing the finished skins in place and began adding them.  It was tough to edge join things and all was not right with the world.  Only THEN did I see that the kit includes those tabs and I would have had a better time had I used them.  So I started adding them from the rear cockpit to the tail.


It was still hard to add the skins to a frame and make them look nice (for me).  It seems easier to cut the skins out, connect them so you have a tube/sleeve and then add a carefully fitted and cut former on one end with tabs to facilitate sliding successive parts together.  On the other hand, having a nice, strong keel with solid formers as on this kit ensures a straight fuselage with little chance of twisting.  I guess it's just another method and I need practice. 

Don't assume it doesn't fit!  The parts as designed match up really well.  Things like the serials on the fuselage etc. look sweet.  So I think any issues I had are really my own doing.  May even be using the thicker balsa and being incrementally off on thickness.  This magnifies things as you go along manifesting as ill-fitting areas.

Anyway, more to come and it's starting to look like an airplane now!  :D

Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 02:55:34 PM »
Tails!

These went together really well...the rudder/fin are simply glued over a single layer core paper and after the fin was on, a fillet wrapped around perfectly to give some strength.

Then the stab has a fine wire spar which slipped into the fuselage, poked out perfectly on either side and served as some solid real estate for the sandwiched stab.  I dropped the elevators a bit too.  Here is the sequence:





I think I'll be able to start the engine and cowling next.  Starting to look good!  ;)

Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 03:25:50 PM »
It sure is looking good, looks like a very solid fuselage and a very nice finish on that paper!
good luck with the engine.

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 03:38:53 PM »
Thanks, Hidde...here is a tiny update!

I started the cowling.  It comes in two forms...a strip-built-up form (one thin strip on top of the other) or a "petal" design which is the complete cowl all at once with curved cuts removed before forming them round.  It's a complex shape, but I find that using successive sizes of these sets of round rollers and pressing against the back of an old mouse pad, I can slowly make the petals touch, then I add some glue on the back of each one and carefully edge glue them.  Some stubborn parts were also hit with thick super glue and accelerator.  Here is the basic shape!



It now has the interior coated with 10min epoxy so that tomorrow I can gently sand the exterior, fill, prime, sand etc. until it's nice and smooth.  Then I'll cut out the cooling holes and paint it as close to the paper color as I can muster.  Should look ok when done.

Then I started adding the mid wing.  There are tiny formers on the ends of the spars and some that butt up against the fuselage.  I found that by forming a bit of a convex shape on the upper surface, the fuselage formers seem unnecessary.  Just slipped the wing skins over and viola.  Beautiful fit, I must say.




More soon and Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 06:10:13 PM »
Excellent work!

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 08:26:00 PM »
Am I missing something here? I thought that the Dr.I was a spin-off of the Pfalz D.III and so would have an inline engine. Looks like this version has a rotary engine.
Or did they do more than 1 triplane version?

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 10:18:49 PM »
Outstanding work Dan, your talents with these models shine through.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2018, 10:42:10 PM by Juan »

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 10:23:47 PM »
Your are correct, I was cinfused with teh experimental Pfalz D.III triplane conversion.

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 11:00:15 PM »
Absolutely incredible work! You are getting really fast at doing these. I am having difficulty keeping up with your builds  8)
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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 08:18:30 AM »
Thanks, everyone!  I do think there was a Pfalz D-III with three wings as well.  I've seen in someplace...Harleyford publication?  Anyway, this one is the plane that MvR tested.  There is a neat photo of him in the cockpit.  Apparently, due to the SH engine, this thing had a great rate of climb...but that was apparently it.  Not enough performance to warrant production.  Still...a pretty neat plane all the same.  Really short body and long skinny wings...it looks like it would've been a neat and maneuverable machine to me!  :D

I got the cowl ring cut outs started.  Thing look rough now, but after some more sanding, priming, putty etc...I think I'll smooth it out ok.  First...the petal cowl fits the bulkhead very nicely!



I then started by drilling holes at each corner and then carefully cutting with an Xacto blade.  Had to be careful, but the epoxy base affords a solid yet bendable base so it's sort of easy to shave off bits almost like cutting off an orange peel.  Here are the steps.





Looks wonky, but we'll see how it looks after it's beauty make-up...Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 03:23:26 PM »
A tad more...some wing work...

Struts:


Bottom wing and struts added.  It's actually pretty darn straight although it doesn't look that good in at least one of these shots.  maybe due to all the lines on the building board.  Rest assured, it's looks ok in the flesh... ;)





I'll work on the guns, wind shield, top wing and landing gear...along with continuing on the cowling.  I'll save the engine for last which should really set the whole thing off...Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 01:36:54 AM »
Awesome work as always!
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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 03:23:09 PM »
Thanks, Rick...it's a really nice kit to put together.

I got the top wing in place and the cowling, though not done, is getting more presentable...




Looks cool with all three wings.  Cabanes and guns tomorrow if I'm lucky!

Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Wagner Models 1/33rd Pfalz Dr-1 Triplane
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2018, 01:01:13 AM »
Looks absolutely beautiful!
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