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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2016, 08:11:28 AM »
Thanks folks, your comments are, as always, much appreciated!

 Today I have mostly been making a mess..... ;D

I started off by taking the sanding sticks to the fuselage and removing the slight edges at the sides, and the large step underneath, where the two rear halves were joined. While I was at it I further sanded the rear half of the underside to reduce it's depth along the entire length. This also brought the angle where the slant up to the tail starts, forward to the rear wing spar, where it should be. All the remaining "detail" on the fuselage sides was also removed with the one exception of the inspection panel at the right rear of the engine. I had thought that the rear decking was correct, but unfortunately it isn't. The total distance from the front edge of the decking to the rudder post is now correct, but the area which has moulded detail for the turtledecking extends too far back, and the decking should be flat where it blends into the rear part of the upper fuselage frame - it is barely visible. To try to correct that I mad a small cut down from the top at the correct end point of the turtledecking, then sanded the detail aft of that flat. Small pieces of plastic card were added to bring the fuselage rear up to the same level as the end of the decking, and they will be blended in properly when dry. Finally on the fuselage I added fillets to the pilot's cockpit sides and they will also be shaped correctly when dry.



 Since that meant I couldn't do any further work on the fuselage, I decided to start on the wings. I seriously thought about just scrapping them and scratchbuilding new ones - it would have been quicker and easier, they are that bad! But I wanted to see what could be done with the kit ones in case anyone wants to try this and isn't too confident with scratchbuilding.

 So, out with a large knife and I started scraping. By far the easiest and quickest way to remove large amounts of plastic, but it does get messy - this is 1/2 hour's work and was just one side of the upper wing!



Another 1/2 hour scraping the other side, followed by 15 minutes with a coarse sanding stick, then the medium, then the fine, gave me this....



 It's still a little thick, but it's a vast improvement, and if I take it much thinner it'll be too weak. So that's the thickness sorted, now I need to chop it up and correct the length......

Thanks for watching...

Ian
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 05:31:07 AM by IanB »

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 11:59:57 AM »
Good job on the wing, Ian...much better!

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2016, 01:08:43 PM »
    Big improvements your pulling off on this, Ian. It's taking this Kit far beyond it's quality and a whole lot more, great work!
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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2016, 02:04:47 AM »
My you have put that wing on a diet! One of the worst features of this kit are the grossly overtrick wings: this is a huge improvement. The fuselage changes also look very good - this is going to be another of your builds to watch.

Stephen.

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2016, 03:24:11 AM »
Wow! I never realized how much extra plastic was in those wings! Outstanding work to date!
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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2016, 07:06:24 AM »
Excellent work thinning the wings, they look more in scale now, and also very nice work with the fuselage.

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2016, 07:27:13 AM »
Thanks everyone

 Just for s**ts and giggles, I mic'd up the lower wing....apparently Airfix's reference aircraft had 6" thick wings, with a 3" thick trailing edge...amazing what they could get to fly back then!

Anyway, today saw the cockpit sides shaped, and the cockpit interior thinned down. I then marked up the inside for framing.





After all that, I attacked the lower wing and thinned that down.



Thanks for watching!

Ian
« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 05:35:35 AM by IanB »

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2016, 07:58:35 AM »
Excellent work, Ian!  A vast improvement already.
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Bud
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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2016, 08:51:55 PM »
we don't have a thumbs up button so I will just say Awesome!
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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2016, 03:10:28 AM »
we don't have a thumbs up button so I will just say Awesome!
RAGIII

Ditto!

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2016, 10:37:07 AM »
A little more sanding and clean up done to start today.
 First, the rear fuselage was still too deep, so I sanded off about 1/2mm along its length. Then I removed the tip of the nose and the the rear of the engine compartment, both will be replaced with plastic card once the fuselage is together. The rear of the engine compartment is actually just a fuel tank on the top half and open at the bottom, so the bottom half will remain open back to the firewall. Finally, the top of the engine compartment was sanded to give a slope up towards the front. The engine in the RE8 was mounted at an angle to give better take off performance and that is part of what gives it the characteristic "bent back" look.



After that, I made a start on the internal framing and floors. The firewall is part of a beer can, I'm not worried about the top as that will be hidden. Coming on ok so far!





Thanks for watching!

Ian

« Last Edit: July 05, 2017, 05:42:26 AM by IanB »

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2016, 11:06:01 AM »
The fuselage frames and flooring are looking excellent.

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2016, 08:10:00 PM »
Truly a master class on how to cut and polish a diamond! A truly fascinating build!

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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2016, 10:20:35 PM »
Wow! The interior framing is a great addition, Ian.

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Ernie :)
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Re: RAF RE8, Airfix, 1:72 - an effort to put it right!
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2016, 01:34:24 AM »
This diamond was certainly rough to begin with but it will be many carrats worth when it is finished.

Stephen