Wingnut Wings DH.2 1/32

[Michael Scarborough]

George, et al, let's talk specifics; are you attempting to replicate the specific type of wood used in these circumstances? Can anyone tell me, specifically, what type of wood was used in de Havilland interiors and for de Havilland struts? (I will be asking similar questions when it comes to the exterior of my W.12.) I think a study of where these manufactures, on both sides of The Channel, were getting their wood would be fascinating. I am sure the Baltic would play into it.

Cheers from NYC,
Termite Man

[PrzemoL]

Michael, I remember from various reading, that spruce and ash were frequently used for structural elements and birch for plywood panels in WW1 aircraft. But not sure what was the particular case of DH.2

[uncletony]

George, et al, let's talk specifics; are you attempting to replicate the specific type of wood used in these circumstances? Can anyone tell me, specifically, what type of wood was used in de Havilland interiors and for de Havilland struts? (I will be asking similar questions when it comes to the exterior of my W.12.) I think a study of where these manufactures, on both sides of The Channel, were getting their wood would be fascinating. I am sure the Baltic would play into it.

Cheers from NYC,
Termite Man

See Koloman Mayrhofer's extensive Albatros D.III reproduction thread on the Aerodrome for an extensive discussion of WWI wood & plywood used by the German and Austrian Aircraft industry. It's a must read for a whole host of reasons anyway.

[Michael Scarborough]

Huh!!...Prze that is fascinating. I can definitely see Birch for the plywood. I use Baltic birch plywood in my furniture pieces and it is still the best.

I can definitely see ash being used for it's structural strength. Sometimes I see pix of British planes with very light coloUred struts and wonder if those were ash. But sometimes they appear to be a much darker coloUr and wonder if this is a different species of wood (mahogany?) or it they were stained. And, if so, why? What would be the point of what seems to have been an aesthetic choice on a war plane? (At that time old growth Cuban Mahogany would still have been available....be still my soul.)

I know (I think) my dad used spruce plywood for the flat sections of the ribs and, I believe, solid spruce for the parts attached to the ribs, when he was building his Fokker Triplane replica. Man, I wish I could ask him!

Neat stuff in both George's execution as well as this discussion!!

Michael


PS (Not to hijack George's thread, but I am really interested in knowing what the two types of wood, light and dark, used were in Bertl's photos of the LVG reconstruction.)

[Michael Scarborough]

Danke Schöne Herr Monroe!!

[Pgtaylorart]

Thanks, guys!

This a great discussion on wood types used. You guys have just taught me a lot! Thank you!

 I actually didn't know what types were used. In my research I noticed that most of the time the cockpit floors were a lighter, yellower plywood, while the rest of the cockpit wood was darker and redder. The photos for struts varied between medium yellows and reds with almost no visible grain to deeper reddish woods with very visible grain and even what looks like knots showing. The latter looked the most interesting so that is what I tried to emulate. Also some of the grain was very straight and some was very wavy. I looked at all this as an artist and not as and engineer or historian. I don't know what woods they are or which is more accurate. I just know which I liked the look of better. Variety is the key for me so I used them all! I just tried to be a bit logical as to which type of wood was used where.

Cheers!
George

[uncletony]

From The Man himself, Koloman Mayrhofer, re Albatros D.III

hallo,
chris had already answerd most of your questions so just a few more details.
in the original drawings the scarf joints on the D III are between #9 and 1#10 on the top longerons and between #8 and #9 on the bottom longeron
forward of this they are laminated ash and the rear section is spruce or pine. both materials are specified in the drawings.

Just one of many juicy details to be found in this thread:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35610

[Pgtaylorart]

From The Man himself, Koloman Mayrhofer, re Albatros D.III

hallo,
chris had already answerd most of your questions so just a few more details.
in the original drawings the scarf joints on the D III are between #9 and 1#10 on the top longerons and between #8 and #9 on the bottom longeron
forward of this they are laminated ash and the rear section is spruce or pine. both materials are specified in the drawings.

Just one of many juicy details to be found in this thread:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35610

Great thread, Bo! A wealth of information. I bookmarked it into my favorites.

[Michael Scarborough]

From The Man himself, Koloman Mayrhofer, re Albatros D.III

hallo,
chris had already answerd most of your questions so just a few more details.
in the original drawings the scarf joints on the D III are between #9 and 1#10 on the top longerons and between #8 and #9 on the bottom longeron
forward of this they are laminated ash and the rear section is spruce or pine. both materials are specified in the drawings.

Just one of many juicy details to be found in this thread:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35610

Great thread, Bo! A wealth of information. I bookmarked it into my favorites.

Me, too! Thanks for the specific link, Meister Bo!!

[lcarroll]

George, the cockpit is absolutely magnificent work! The use of Aviattic linen on the inside is brilliantly done, and the seat cushion......oh my! Are you planning Aviattic treatment for the major components? This is really nice.
Cheers,
Lance

[Ssasho0]

Outstanding!
The wood is perfect and the seat is just WoW!

[Pgtaylorart]

Thanks Lance and Sasho!

Lance, yes, I have Aviattic linen decals for the rest of the plane. I'm using Khaki for the green and German Linen for the undersides. I bought the clear versions. I'm experimenting with pre-shading the wings before applying the decals to recreate the look of the tan wooden spars showing through and the lighter colored rib tapes. I'll add light weathering over the top of the decals.

George

[FarEast]

George!

Wow I love it!!! You wood painting technique is fantastic and they look great on the struts Can't wait to see the next update!

[Pgtaylorart]

Thanks, James!

[Dave in Dubai]

Keep going George,

It is looking very realistic.

Will be interested to see how you fare with the Aviattic fabric as I have some sitting here.

Best wishes,

Dave