Author Topic: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden  (Read 48027 times)

Offline Dave in Dubai

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #120 on: June 04, 2015, 12:48:55 AM »
FYI a book on the pilot has just been published by Alex Revell entitled "The Happy Warrior"

Looks like an interesting book to accompany the model subject matter.

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #121 on: June 04, 2015, 02:13:06 AM »
you may have mentioned this but have you ever built the wnw version? i dont recall although for some reson as i type something makes me think i remember you doing "schweinhund" so perhaps you did another roden kit. my point i was wondering how you felt this encore with bells and whistles stacked up against the wnw kit. i am sure it take more work. but i really like how the resin pulley assy's look on the encore as compared to the wnw etc. just interested in your opinions.

I haven't built the WNW version...yet. Like you I do own one though. A quick comparison of the two kits resulted in the following:
1. Instrument panel better than WNW using the Encore PE parts
2. I personally like the stitching on the fuselage side on the Encore kit better. (Marginally)
3. The interior is Better in the WNW kit, again Marginally. The PE and a little scratch building can even this out to a degree. One thing I don't like is the molded in bracing wires on the WNW kit. WNW also gives you the ammo can, oil tank, and spent shell ejection chute.
4. The wings are better on the WNW kit, or at least the rib tapes( A little heavy but better than nothing at all).
6. Like you I like the resin inserts for the pulley inspection panels but at least you don't have to cut out, insert, fill and sand the WNW version.
7. The wrinkled fuselage panels are a nice addition but Not hard to add to the Encore kit using a little thick Acrylic paint.
8. A lot of the PE is great on the Encore kit and if one is PE friendly will close the gap a lot when looking at control horns and certain attachment points.

My  final analysis was that if one has the Encore kit in their stash and only plans 1 SE then I wouldn't go for a WNW kit just to replace the encore version. If you plan to do more than 1, then the WNW kit perhaps mated to the PE aftermarket from HGW would be the choice. Finally I will assume that the fit will be better on the WNW kit  ;D JMHO on all points!
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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #122 on: June 04, 2015, 02:25:05 AM »
Hello Rick!!

It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)

Cheerio
Lukas

Totally agree with Lukas Rick my friend. Again you did a marvellous job! Very interesting comparision of the two kits. Thank you.

Kind regards
Patrick

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #123 on: June 04, 2015, 06:27:09 AM »
Hello Rick!!

It looks like wnw - after touched by your hands :)

Cheerio
Lukas

Totally agree with Lukas Rick my friend. Again you did a marvellous job! Very interesting comparision of the two kits. Thank you.

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick! By the way a few more comparison points:
9. The location hole impressions for the rigging wires on the WNW kit make it much easier to locate and drill in the proper locations.
10. The struts are as usual, made in a way that positive location and alignment is / should be, much easier on the WNW kit.
11. The WNW engine covers have much better hinge and bolt detail!

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #124 on: June 04, 2015, 08:19:12 AM »
FYI a book on the pilot has just been published by Alex Revell entitled "The Happy Warrior"

Looks like an interesting book to accompany the model subject matter.

Thanks for the Heads up on this book! I have always enjoyed reading Alex Revells' work!
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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #125 on: June 04, 2015, 10:53:22 AM »
Looking good, Rick; nice job fitting the cowls.  Things never seem to go as smoothly for me when I take blade to plastic.... 

Chris

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #126 on: June 04, 2015, 03:53:14 PM »
thanks for the play by play, i pretty much agree on all points. i havent started the wnw but i think the 2 choices are closer in quality then say the roden tripe vs wnw. i am glad someone else thinks that wnw rib tapes are a bit unrealistic/slightly overdone. looking at actual photos the reality is somewhere in between the roden wings and wnw , one thing roden always got right where most other kit makers have missed is the wing undersides. the more realistic recessed ribs with downward bulging spaces in btw the wing ribs especially in the crown of the camber. this is how fabric stretched over a frame looks.also if you look at period photos closelymany times there is a touch of the starving cow recessed on upper surfaces which many respected modellers exclaim as a nono these days. the way wnw wings are done looks (in most cases) is a bit too uniform and therfore somewhat unrealistic in my eyes. i think roden wings with a hint of subdued stitching would be ideal acording to what i have seen in pictures.

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #127 on: June 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM »
Looking good, Rick; nice job fitting the cowls.  Things never seem to go as smoothly for me when I take blade to plastic.... 

Chris

Thanks Chris. Your comment is appreciated! I wouldn't say this is a smooth ride for me either but I have been able to recover from most of my errors  8)
RAGIII

thanks for the play by play, i pretty much agree on all points. i havent started the wnw but i think the 2 choices are closer in quality then say the roden tripe vs wnw. i am glad someone else thinks that wnw rib tapes are a bit unrealistic/slightly overdone. looking at actual photos the reality is somewhere in between the roden wings and wnw , one thing roden always got right where most other kit makers have missed is the wing undersides. the more realistic recessed ribs with downward bulging spaces in btw the wing ribs especially in the crown of the camber. this is how fabric stretched over a frame looks.also if you look at period photos closelymany times there is a touch of the starving cow recessed on upper surfaces which many respected modellers exclaim as a nono these days. the way wnw wings are done looks (in most cases) is a bit too uniform and therfore somewhat unrealistic in my eyes. i think roden wings with a hint of subdued stitching would be ideal acording to what i have seen in pictures.

One thing we both should remember is that the WNW SE5a is one of their first releases. They learned quickly and later kits like the Tripe and Snipe are far and away better kits! The conclusion from my perspective is still that if one doesn't already own an SE then the WNW kit is the better starting point... albeit marginally. JMHO,
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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #128 on: June 05, 2015, 08:33:45 AM »
Thanks for the comparison Rick, this will be very helpful to anyone contemplating buying an SE.5a kit.

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #129 on: June 05, 2015, 09:27:49 AM »
   I have built the WNW Kit and have another, along with the Roden Kit, in my Stash and will build both some day. I've compared them closely and my findings agree with Ricks; the Roden effort is a very nice Kit however the Wingnut version is better overall. Nice progress Rick, keep hammering away and I look forward to the rollout of your finished project.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #130 on: June 07, 2015, 11:24:25 AM »
Thanks for the comparison Rick, this will be very helpful to anyone contemplating buying an SE.5a kit.

Des.

Glad to be of help to others,( Hopefully)  :D
RAGIII

   I have built the WNW Kit and have another, along with the Roden Kit, in my Stash and will build both some day. I've compared them closely and my findings agree with Ricks; the Roden effort is a very nice Kit however the Wingnut version is better overall. Nice progress Rick, keep hammering away and I look forward to the rollout of your finished project.
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance I appreciate your comments and good to know others agree with my observations!
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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #131 on: June 21, 2015, 05:41:53 AM »
A small update:
I have finished drilling most of the holes for rigging. I also added some wrinkles to the fabric using my method involving Delta Ceramicoat Acrylic paint. Finally I have primed the model in Tamiya Medium grey.
RAGIII




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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #132 on: June 21, 2015, 06:23:43 AM »
Looks fantastic, Rick!  I love how the wrinkles turned out.  Gotta get myself of that Ceramcoat.
Cheers,
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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #133 on: June 21, 2015, 07:31:25 AM »
Coming together very nicely, Rick. Nice wrinkles on the fabric,.... er, .....um, fabric on the wrinkles.............., Oh Hell, nice "puckers"!! :D Looks every bit as good as the WNW moulded version. Great update.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Encore 1/32nd SE5a 56 Squadron: 4891 JTB McCudden
« Reply #134 on: June 21, 2015, 07:37:38 AM »
Very great work Rick.
Martin