Author Topic: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24  (Read 14544 times)

Offline IFF1418

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #60 on: December 23, 2014, 07:10:06 AM »
Thank you so much Bud for your kind comments. You have a good eye for the shining through of the aluminium. But all the colors of the camo are mixed with aluminium dope (see the paint instructions of the WnW booklet of the Salmson) and give a nice "metal-like" impression. I am glad you noticed that! Merry Christmas my friend.

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2015, 01:23:01 AM »
Hello all,

I didn’t have to wait until installing the wings for having again a lot of troubles. When installing the engine, the two cowling halves didn’t make it to be fit upon the fuselage. There was a teriffic gap. So I had to cut a lot of parts from the engine and even then the two halves didn’t match properly. I had finally to fill them. But the engine axle was out-centered. Well….



The Roden decals which I used for the first time, as for my previous Roden builds I used Pheon and Super scale, went on rather decently. Until I had to decal the rudder. This was a most difficult work. But they are on. They are very fragile though.



As predicted, the wings installment was like going through hell. I first glued the interplane “V” struts to the upper wing and glued the upper wing on the cabane struts. That went quite well. When dryfitting the lower wings, the pins of the “V” struts didn’t match at all (in all directions), and that is even an understatement. I had some gaps on the joint of the lower wings to the fuselage where a Fokker could pass through. So I began (after deliberation with my partner Ernie) to fill them up with styrene. Little by little the dryfitting was looking better and I finally started glueing the business. That went totally wrong as when the right side was done, the front cabane struts were pointing to Germany. No way to bring them straight when glueing the other lower wing on.







The next photo almost induced me to transfer the build to the hall of shame models:



So I decided to do the rigging as good and as bad as I could. I must confess that I speeded to the finish so it could be done more carefully. The tail rigging wasn’t done (and wasn’t done either in the instructions). There are two tailplanes and two rudders in the kit, one of them was greyed out, so not supposed to be used. There was no decal for the second rudder too. But the tailplane to be used had no holes in it for the control cables to pass through and neighter holes for the fixing of the control horns. As I already had nothing but problems with the kit (in every department) I decided not to rig the tail.



As I said, I was (shame on me) speeding to the finish, so the rigging could have been done more carefully. The undercarriage could have been mounted better too. I wonder what some more experienced modeler with greater skills than I have can do with this kit. Because I don't think that for all the troubles I had, the kit is to be blamed. The problem is that I didn't learn too much of it, because I don't really know what I have done wrong. It's not a catastrophy because it didn't even take one and a half month of my life  ;) (I started at the end of November)

Here are the photos of the finished model. Thank you for passing by and for all the good advice and kind encouragements I received.

Kind regards
Patrick
























 



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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2015, 01:31:24 AM »
Patrick,
You have achieved beautiful results in spite of your trials! Your painting is outstanding! As for the wings I think you have done a good job on a very difficult assembly! The alignment is amongst the best I have seen yet. Especially the upper wing not having the droop often seen on completed models using this kit! I applaud your perseverance!
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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2015, 01:44:35 AM »
Very great paint Patrick.
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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2015, 01:53:25 AM »
Patrick,
You have achieved beautiful results in spite of your trials! Your painting is outstanding! As for the wings I think you have done a good job on a very difficult assembly! The alignment is amongst the best I have seen yet. Especially the upper wing not having the droop often seen on completed models using this kit! I applaud your perseverance!
RAGIII

Thank you so much Rick my friend. You are always there to encourage me ( in good and bad times  :D). I am a bit surprised that this would be one of the better alignments, but I am sure glad for these words coming from you!

Very great paint Patrick.
Martin

Thank you Martin, you too are always there to encourage your fellow modelers!

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2015, 02:41:44 AM »
You're a hero, Patrick, I think this has proved that all of us who encounter this kit are worthy of legendary status.
It's funny, but now you've finished it, and the rigging is done - true it looks a little wonky from the front, but so does my Nieuport 27 -
you've proven what a pretty little plane the late Nieuport is.
Super painting job!
You've reminded me that it'll be worth having a go at the 24bis in my stash some time :)

Mark

PS By the way, I read that even the real thing had some dodgy manufacture: the Italians ordered a batch of 27s, and when they arrived, they found that in many parts of the airframe, screws had been hammered in like nails!

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2015, 03:30:47 AM »
Thank you so much Mark, these (too) kind words really are appreciated. With screws hammered in I would not like to pilot it!  :o I totally agree that it was a very nice plane, as all the Nieuports were.
I am looking forward for your Ni 24b and will be gladly supporting you!

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2015, 03:32:11 AM »
Well done, my friend!  You have done wonders with a very difficult kit and
have a beautiful model to show for it. :D  You must be commended for
your talents and perseverance.  Thanks for sharing your build, with honest
information that will help others doing that model. :D

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2015, 03:39:58 AM »
Thank you my dear friend Ernie. As always your support is so much appreciated. If my struggle can at least help modelers who want to build this one I will be glad. It is a pity that the build has not resolved the problem of what to do first, install lower wings first as we did with the Bébé, our mini group build, or install the upper wing first (what I did now).  :-\   

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2015, 03:42:28 AM »
I just received this kit and you have proven that despite its flaws, it can be built into a beautiful model. Bravo!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2015, 03:47:45 AM »
Thank you very much Michael, I hope you will not wait too long to start on this one. Maybe if you and Mark (Bluesfan) will build it, we finally will know how to proceed.  ;)

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2015, 03:49:55 AM »
Hello, Patrick -

Bloody well done, sir!

I'm really impressed with what you have done here - I could not even get my to go together so simply binned the kit at the wing mounted stage ................

Excellent job, well done.

Regards

Dave
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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2015, 03:52:58 AM »
She's truly stunning, Patrick!  You've done a remarkable job on a challenging kit.  You should be proud.  By the way, the  Nie 24, 25 and 27 had the elevator control horn mounted inside the fuselage, so there were no external control wires.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2015, 04:03:53 AM »
Hello, Patrick -

Bloody well done, sir!

I'm really impressed with what you have done here - I could not even get my to go together so simply binned the kit at the wing mounted stage ................

Excellent job, well done.

Regards

Dave

Thank you very much Dave, I think that my perseverance and patience are greater than my skills. This said my build was for a moment very close to the binned stage too!  ???

She's truly stunning, Patrick!  You've done a remarkable job on a challenging kit.  You should be proud.  By the way, the  Nie 24, 25 and 27 had the elevator control horn mounted inside the fuselage, so there were no external control wires.
Cheers,
Bud

Thank you so much Bud, as always your comments are so kind. All you friends make me keep going, even if things go bad. Thank you for mentioning the way the control horns were hided. Do you happen to have a photo of how this system worked? Thank you!

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Re: Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2015, 05:32:20 AM »
Hello Patrick:

This is not one of Roden's better releases.  You did an outstanding job on this kit.  I have started and worked on this many times, only to relegate back to the box from whence it came.  I doubt I will ever finish.  However, yours and others here have inspired me to at least get it done.  One of these day.
Your paint work is excellent and you managed to get the alignment spot on.

Best
Mark
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