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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #135 on: November 11, 2014, 11:11:00 AM »
Chris,
Unlike you, I have never really taken to the Salmson's looks, perhaps because I do like my WWI aircraft to be a bit ungainly... gives me that sense of "holy cow, men went up in that thing?!  and took fire?!!"... but the builds you and the other Salmsonians have underway have definitely left a favorable impression.

Your Salmson looks great, and I always enjoy seeing your work. 

Chris

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #136 on: November 19, 2014, 05:56:15 AM »
Okay gang, time for another one of my irregular updates. With all of the fiddly fuselage parts in place, it was time to rig the cabanes. First though, I installed some 0.25 mm (0.10") lead wire for the antenna leads that run up the cabanes and attach to the underside of the top wing. These may be a bit large in diameter, but when I used narrower gauge wire, every time I tried to add a bend, it would pop right off the cabane. For me at least, lead wire is very flexible and doesn't stress the glue joint when bending the free ends. More accomplished modellers here won't have the same difficulty as I do, but I know when to accept defeat.  :-[



As the Salmson's cabanes are double rigged, very stout, and therefore don't require the bracing strength of monofilament rigging, I decided to try EZ Line for this job. I've never used it before but I found that I was able to double thread it through 0.5 mm tubing turnbuckles, which was a major accomplishment for me. Two fine tweezers and an optivisor were indispensable for the task. 



If I were ever to build this kit again, I wouldn't glue up the top wing before installation. Instead, I would rig the centre section to the cabanes first as it would allow for easier access and then I'd install the outer wings. Oh well, I'm used to doing things the hard way. I was more or less happy with the end result, although I found that in several instances I had applied too much tension to the line when making the final connection. That resulted in the first turnbuckle pulling away from its eyelet. I was also a bit sloppy with the CA on a couple of occasions and I ended up with several overly long tail end cuts.



The biggest problem I encountered with EZ Line though was that I couldn't paint it silver. I tried a silver Sharpie, thinned Tamiya Aluminum, and finally, thinned Mr. Color Silver and all I accomplished was a total mess. There was nothing for it but to remove the EZ Line and replace it with monofilament.



I used my standard Maxima Chameleon 0.12 mm monofilament and painted it with thinned Mr. Color Silver lacquer. As the cabanes are double rigged, and space to work is at a premium, I painted each line as I installed it. I also made the final connections of the antennas to the underside of the top wing. I need to clean them up a bit yet but right now, I'm fed up with them as all they do is break away from the cabanes.  >:(





Next in line is to add the lower wings and interplane struts. Each strut bears five blue fabric stripes and while WnW provides decals for them, I wasn't having any of that as I don't have the dexterity for it. Mark (MGunns) suggested using painter's tape and it was an excellent idea as the tape has a bit of a fabric texture. Once they were installed on all eight struts (40 strips of @#$% tape!) I touched each one with a drop of CA to fix them in place.



Thanks for looking in!

Cheers,

Chris
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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #137 on: November 19, 2014, 06:04:17 AM »
Nice work (and lovely photography) Chris!

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #138 on: November 19, 2014, 06:15:52 AM »
Lovely work Chris, I may just crack open my kit now I have about completed my d.vii

Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2014, 06:24:15 AM »
Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.

Thanks for the tip gcn. Do you thin them at all for brushing?

Cheers,

Chris
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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #140 on: November 19, 2014, 06:48:39 AM »
Lovely work with the cabane rigging Chris, pity you had to do it twice. I have never had any joy with EZ line so will stay with my tried and trusted monofilament.
The tape on the struts worked out really well, the wood effect on the strut is excellent.

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #141 on: November 19, 2014, 07:02:08 AM »
Re painting EZ line I use Vallejo model air metallics, they are very thin and don't "glob" up like other paints.

Thanks for the tip gcn. Do you thin them at all for brushing?

Cheers,

Chris

Nope, straight from the bottle. I use them for all my brushing. However I've tried the model Color metallics and I struggle with them.

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #142 on: November 19, 2014, 07:31:57 AM »
Wounderful rigging and painting.
Martin

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #143 on: November 19, 2014, 08:12:33 AM »
Chris,
Awesome work on the cabanes and the fabric on the interplane struts! Your work on this one is, as I said before, inspiring!
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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #144 on: November 19, 2014, 08:53:21 AM »
Chris,

Nice thing about the cabanes being so solid is that you had the stability to be able to do the rigging twice without issues with the wing shifting around. Although it is definitely a pain in the nether regions to have to work in such small confines.....  :o :P

However, as usual you pulled it off and made it look simple.  ;)  You sure you don't want to finish that cannon of mine?  ;D

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #145 on: November 19, 2014, 09:14:10 AM »
Spectacular, Chris. Your buildlog is a mine of real gem-like info pieces I will gladly use when I will get as far with my build.Thanks for marking the track!
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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #146 on: November 19, 2014, 09:44:52 AM »


The biggest problem I encountered with EZ Line though was that I couldn't paint it silver. I tried a silver Sharpie, thinned Tamiya Aluminum, and finally, thinned Mr. Color Silver and all I accomplished was a total mess. There was nothing for it but to remove the EZ Line and replace it with monofilament.



I used my standard Maxima Chameleon 0.12 mm monofilament and painted it with thinned Mr. Color Silver lacquer. As the cabanes are double rigged, and space to work is at a premium, I painted each line as I installed it. I also made the final connections of the antennas to the underside of the top wing. I need to clean them up a bit yet but right now, I'm fed up with them as all they do is break away from the cabanes.  >:(




Cheers,

Chris


Hi Chris

Have you tried using rub n buff for colouring the E Z line ? Works well on nylon only thing is is to let it dry as it can smudge while drying.

Cheers

Andrew
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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #147 on: November 19, 2014, 12:30:23 PM »
Nice work (and lovely photography) Chris!

And thanks for the tutorial and inspiration!

Cheers from NYC,
Michael

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #148 on: November 19, 2014, 01:51:07 PM »
Chris,

1st try or 2nd, the results look great.  Thanks for taking the time to post such excellent pictures and explanations.  As always, your build looks fantastic.

Chris

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Re: Salmson 2-A2 24th Aero Squadron USAS - 1/32 WnW
« Reply #149 on: November 19, 2014, 04:41:59 PM »
Your woodwork is brilliant. While reading your last update, i kept thinking "what is this guy talking about? Pulled eyelets? Overly long cuts? I can't see anything" - but in the end you revealed that you switched to monofilament. I think your rigging is done very well.

I do not like the red heart's transparency - but that is a problem of that decal, not of your modelling skills.

Stefan