WNW Albatros DV - Kurt Monnington Jasta 15 & 18

[Chris Johnson]

A picture is worth a thousand words and now I understand how this style of turnbuckle is constructed. I can see how it would be useful too. I'll have to give this a try myself.

Cheers,

Chris

[PrzemoL]

Lance, try pre-drilling the tube with a 0.3mm drill bit. Then cut the end of the line at 45 degree angle to form a sharp tip. With these you should be able to pass the line thrice without any fuss.

[bobs_buckles]

Lance, try pre-drilling the tube with a 0.3mm drill bit. Then cut the end of the line at 45 degree angle to form a sharp tip. With these you should be able to pass the line thrice without any fuss.

Bingo! x2 

A drill bit or fine reamer will do the trick!
Good luck!

Von Buckle

[Dal Gavan]

Add a "bingo!" from me, PrzemoL, that's a fantastic tip. 

Dal.

[lcarroll]

von B & Przemol,
    Thanks for the hints; I need to do some experimenting with this real soon. I do the 45 degree sharp end thing however have not tried cleaning, reaming, nor touching up the inside "bore" of the tubes. Probably time I did so...
Cheers,
Lance

[Des]

Lance,

I have been experimenting and came up with this idea, it is two eyelets interlooped (if that's a word), so one end fits into the turnbuckle while the other end fits into the wing giving a very neat connection of the turnbuckle to the wing. This was the first one I made and it was quite easy to do, only took a few minutes. I don't know if this is what you are after but I will be using this technique for my builds.

Des.

[uncletony]

Verrrry interesting...

[bobs_buckles]

Nice one, Des!

I've been making 'twins'    for a while now mainly as one off orders. Not sure If there is a ready market for them... What do you think?

Eye Eye!
 

[Des]

I didn't realise you were already making the twins Bob, great idea. Yes, I believe there would be a market for them, there seems to be a trend towards this idea for mounting turnbuckles to the wing, a very simple yet affective way to connect a turnbuckle. I think trying to tie two eyelets together with mono is a little messy and would not look as good. Test the market Bob and see what the reaction is.

Des.

[LindsayT]

Des or Bob,

Do either of you have a picture illustrating the installation of a twin?

I'm also a little fuzzy on how you'd loop the second eyelet into the first. I understand that you would initially place the unwrapped wire through the first eyelet, but then how do you get it around your drill bit without crushing the first eyelet?

Maybe I'm over thinking this one...

Lindsay

[Dal Gavan]

Des, that's how I made the turnbuckles on the Pfalz.  However I put the eyes into the tube first (using BvB's buckles and eyes that I'd bought at first, then making some of my own when I ran short) and then formed the eye that I'd glue into the wing, as I found it was easier then forming two eyes and trying to put one into the tube.  You can see them on the close of the tail on my Pfalz build.

I thought it was the usual technique to use?

Dal

[Dal Gavan]

Lindsay, there's a pic of the tail on my Pfalz that shows the turnbuckles done that way.  I haven't had any problems crushing the eye in the turnbuckle since I started putting them in before forming the third one.  There's enough weight with the turnbuckle assembled for that to hang down, out of the way, and that makes the job very easy.

Dal

[Des]

Lindsay - here are some pictures of the double eyelets fitted to a wing (mock-up) with turnbuckle. It's a very simple process to make the double eyelets and crushing the first eyelet is not an issue. I'm sure there are other techniques out there but this one works well for me, I can knock out a double eyelet in about two minutes. The eye of the eyelet is 0.3mm, the wire is 0.13mm copper, the turnbuckle is 0.5mm brass tube with a 0.33mm internal diameter and the mono is 0.12mm.

Des.

[lcarroll]

Looks great Des. For von Buckle....... can you qoute a price on the "Doubles in 1/32 Scale and I'll add them to my imminent order; I've tried the "knit your own" on these so called "Doubles ' and failed miserably. This is, in the end, where I was trying to get to "eyelet into wing, second eyelet connected to first and then into tube, then eyelet with simulated wire (MONO) and on to the next turnbuckle."
Thanks all for getting this to the almost answered/resolved point!
Cheers,
Lance

[kornbeef]

Thats the way I was trying to explain in my muddled way, personally I find it gives the most life like look and adds just a little extra detail to a build. .

Exellently shown though makes it far easier to understand.

Keith