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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2014, 05:52:42 AM »
Mark, Rick,
    Thanks for the encouragement, I'll freely admit to having reservations about this one, She's been a "bear" all the way!
    Since the last update the wing rigging has been completed, not without lots of angst and drama. Broken eyelets and fittings popping off to a degree I could hardly believe but it's finally done. My new method of attaching lines to struts was a total failure, lots of lessons learned on this little journey!
    Next on the list was to wrap or fill in the double wires with the trademark "lathe" supports. I had followed Dal Gavan's efforts closely on this little challenge and admired his patience in replicating the effect with thin sheet styrene strips. Before copying his method (if I could!) I decided to try a method I discovered completely by accident on my last Build, the WNW Fokker D.VII (OAW)
    The Instructions for the D.VII include wrapping the top most longeron in the cockpit with lozenge decals which are pre-shaped on the Decal Sheet. I discovered that laying the decal flat on the top of the longeron, applying a couple of heavy applications of Microsol, and then sitting back and watching, the decal would, once softened, wrap itself tightly around the longeron needing only a little tidying up with a brush soaked in Micosol. Reasoning this should work on the double rigging portions I built a small jig to validate the procedure. The decal material chosen was Wingnut Wings After market Lozenge.
Here's the jig, no further detail needed, and the completed decal "wrap".







    .......and here's the painted version.......



    I was very pleased with the results; the wraps are now installed on the Model, and once dry will be painted and that seemingly insurmountable challenge turned out to be a relative "cake walk"! (the only challenge being manoeuvering the decal strips into position on the wires which calls for some facial contortions and lots of lip biting! Significantly none of the drooling that Dal mentioned using the styrene method.)



    Once the landing gear, engine and cowling, and "pinged off" Vickers are added and the tail section rigged there'll be a few minor touch-ups to do and She'll  be done.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2014, 06:09:56 AM »
Ok, that looks totally brilliant - fantastic solution! I woulda thought the decal would have constricted the two wires together when it dried but it looks not...

I assume you lay the decal strip over the top of the two wires with just a small amount of overhang on each side?
-Patrick

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2014, 06:48:25 AM »
Hello Lance:

Brilliant!!  What an easy solution to this ongoing problem!  I will be using this method on my next N.28 build.  Thanks for all of the travailing and angst and coming up with this simple solution.

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Mark
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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2014, 06:56:05 AM »
Awesome, Lance!  I really like this technique and will definitely try it on future projects.
Cheers,
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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2014, 07:41:03 AM »
Great idea, Lance  ;)
I'll be whipping out my beading loom in the next couple of days to give it a try.

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #110 on: August 30, 2014, 08:26:30 AM »
Now that is a nifty way on doing the wrapping Lance !  I would have never had thought of using decal for doing the wrapping ...




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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2014, 11:04:00 AM »
What can I say but BRILLIANT! If I can muster the guts I may see if I can back cover my double wires on my 28  :-\
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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2014, 05:42:06 PM »
Hello Lance,

This is so inventive! Well done! You know there is an item in "Hints and Tips" about this by Dal. Maybe you could add this method there?

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2979.0

Kind regards
Patrick

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #113 on: August 30, 2014, 10:40:25 PM »
Absolutely brilliant Lance! It looks perfect. It's stuff like this that separates the modellers from the assemblers. I would've tried wrapping the decal material around the lines with predictable results, never thinking to let the decal solvent do the job for me. Hey, who am I kidding here. I'd have never thought of the idea or the jig to make it work in the first place. You're a true modeller my friend!

With all of the trials and tribulations you've encountered along the way, I still maintain that this is going to be a corker when it's completed. The marking scheme is a real eye catcher to start with and this lozenge covered rigging is going to make her into a real piece of eye candy. The end result is going to be well worth all of your time and effort.

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #114 on: August 30, 2014, 10:42:56 PM »
Petrov 27,
    I cut the decal strips approximately double the width of the line spacing and that seemed to work well. The only difficult part of this trick is getting the strip sitting as you want it on the lines...........I found that water initially, then Microsol worked best, then leave it alone until it starts to "curl" and then use Microsol and a soft brush to "help" it along. (you can see the lines through the decal as you go with good light)

Patrick,
    I will add this to the Hints and Tips Article soonest, thanks for the Link.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #115 on: August 30, 2014, 10:51:38 PM »
Many thanks for the very kind words, Chris. As I shared with you along the way She has more then a few "warts" picked up along the way, If I were to build a second one most of these self induced blemishes would be eliminated as they were due mainly to trying a few new techniques or widgets. If nothing else this has been a great reminder of how spoiled I'd become with the WNW quality of engineering as mentioned earlier.
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #116 on: August 31, 2014, 02:38:51 AM »
Dittos to the above, will save this thread for when I do my N.28 !  eagerly await final photos   !!

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2014, 02:35:58 AM »
She's on her own legs and I'm calling her completed. It's been a long haul but I'm happy with the results.



   I learned a lot from this Build; not the least of which is the importance of the strength of the basic structure. Every strut had to be pinned, and aligned from "scratch", and I constructed and used Jigs for the wing strut alignment and the landing gear. The Kit's detail is very scarce however the basics are there and it can be made into a very nice replica of it's subject with a little extra effort.
   It was also enjoyable to learn about the life of Quentin Roosevelt, Son of a former President of the USA who died in aerial combat on 14 July 1918. I admit to being relatively unversed in the exploits of the American Airmen in the first Great War as compared to those of other nations and this was an very educational opportunity for me; I particularly enjoyed the article on his experiences in the Alan Toelle Over the Front article referenced.
   I'll be posting a photo spread in the Completed Models section later today and also updating the Tips and Techniques Article on wrapping of twin rigging wires as done on this Build.
   Thanks for all the positive feedback and encouragement along the way, I've certainly had smoother Builds in the past!
Cheers,
Lance

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2014, 02:43:36 AM »
Hello Lance,

You just completed a model that I like so much. Despite the pitfalls of the kit you succeeded in building a marvellous airplane in the scheme I like the most. Everything is done with your usual high standards and I hope to see more photos in the completed section. For now : many sincere congratulations!

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Patrick

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Re: Roden 1:32 Nieuport 28c1 95th Aero Sqn
« Reply #119 on: September 03, 2014, 02:44:30 AM »
Absolutely stunning, Lance!  In spite of all of your struggles, I'm glad you persevered with this one.  She's a real gem.  Congratulations.
Cheers,
Bud
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