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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2014, 06:51:54 PM »
My concoction of  PC10  for Arthur's mount will be more on the  brownish side... why? Words from the great man as quoted from his book, Open Cockpit.

“The dog-fight when I first experienced the trill of real in-fighting, a confused, breathless circling to avoid being tailed, those few spasmodic bursts at targets too fleeting to hit, steep-banking Albatros D.IIIs, all gaily coloured, in sharp contrast with our uniform drab brown.”

Straight from the horses mouth  ;)

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2014, 01:37:44 AM »
Excellent choice, Bob.  Most RFC/RNAS pilot's account of their ships colors specifically state brown or even chocolate.  I've personally never seen them referred to as green, but that's not to say they weren't.  Okay.  I'm stepping down off my soap box now. :-[
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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2014, 09:04:04 AM »
Excellent choice, Bob.  Every single RFC/RNAS pilot's account of their ships colors specifically state brown or even chocolate.  I've never seen them referred to as green.  Okay.  I'm stepping down off my soap box now. :-[
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Bud

But yet , it's still the colour , which gets the most ...well you know .



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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2014, 09:12:17 AM »
Excellent choice, Bob.  Every single RFC/RNAS pilot's account of their ships colors specifically state brown or even chocolate.  I've never seen them referred to as green.  Okay.  I'm stepping down off my soap box now. :-[
Cheers,
Bud

But yet , it's still the colour , which gets the most ...well you know .



Terri

I think the Brown is a good choice. I would say that Bud is right to a point...hank Burden of 56 did a sketch of his SE5a during the war and described the uppers as green. Like others here I have been going more brown with my PC 10. There were MANY PAINFUL discussions on the Drome, Lets leave it at that and go forward  8)

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2014, 09:29:30 AM »
Sorry, T and Rick.  I'm rarely so adamant about such things. :-[  Must be the full moon (or something).  I've modified the tone of my post to a more  conciliatory one.  (All modifications are italicized.) ;)
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Bud

PS- BVB, sorry to lead your thread astray.  Won't happen again, mate.
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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 01:54:02 PM »
That's it Bud, you're banned.  :D

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 01:56:58 PM »
That's it Bud, you're banned.  :D
Again?!

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Bud
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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 02:00:12 PM »
No need to apologize Bud . My own words could be at fault as well .





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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 06:15:29 PM »
Hooligans!   ;D

Rick,
Remind me.... What brew (for Snipe)  did you use for your PC10 - I like it  ;)

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2014, 08:19:12 AM »
Hi Bob,

give me a day or so and I'll put up some model paints useful for the range of PC10/PC12 Methuen values published variously by Ray Rimell, Ian Huntley and Ian Baker that are based on measured samples. Strictly none of these are 'green', rather yellow-olives through yellow-brown olives to brown-olives (i.e. black/white plus a 'yellow' or 'orange'). I've found it best to mix/choose colours in natural daylight as some of these paints can look 'green' under artificial light (including white strip light from bench-top modelling lamps) but correctly 'brown in real daylight. There are some unexpected examples.

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2014, 11:07:51 AM »
Hooligans!   ;D

Rick,
Remind me.... What brew (for Snipe)  did you use for your PC10 - I like it  ;)

Cheers,
Arthur Gawd Help-Us

Bob,
The simple answer is Grren plus a touch of red until it reaches a brownish tone you like. In my case it was Gunze RLM 71 and Gunze red. I tend to get too dark with my PC 10, " Dark Chocolate "  8) I think next time I will add a touch of white or light grey to bring it more to a milk chocolate  ::)
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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2014, 05:59:37 PM »
Hi Graham,
 All PC10 info will be greatly received - Cheers!  ;)

Hi Rick,
 Thanks for your input. I will give your 'special brew' a try.  ;) :)

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 10:10:28 PM »
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give me a day or so and I'll put up some model paints useful for the range of PC10/PC12 Methuen values published

Graham,

do you mind including something on PC8 as well?

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Re: WNW RFC Sopwith Pup - Arthur Lee
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2014, 06:19:08 AM »
very subtle progress mister IBOBOLA.......me thinks sir ;)