Author Topic: A Hisso from a newbie... (Read 9439 times)

treadhead1944 · « **on:** April 20, 2014, 05:10:55 AM »

So since I just ordered the Eduard PE set for the Roden Spad, and my WnW Se5a is currently clearing customs, that left me with only one kit to work on, the Nieuport 24.

Having spent countless hours pouring over the instructions for the Hisso, the Roden instructions were a bit of a letdown. Thank you all who have posted build logs on the N 24 for the assistance and save there...

The purpose of this build is to practice some things before I get all fancy with the other 2 kits, first and foremost woodgraining, with a close second rigging with 'buckles and whatnot, with a very close C being working on pre-shading and air brushing. To that end shortcuts are being taken, but not terrible ones, even though some of the paintwork is a bit sloppy...

Enough with the chat, here are some photos:

First my first home made turnbuckle, thanks to Des and Bo.

Second an overall shot of where I am at so far.

Next, my first attempt at wood grain. Forgive the rest of the paint, it needs touching up and I am rushing some.

The prop drying, awaiting some oils.

The engine all shiny.

Lastly, Roden has you bending the seat back around the cushion. I got some hot water, held the seat back in it to soften in, bent it around the cushion, CA glued it and here is what I got:

I figure the water was not hot enough, or it cooled too quickly... Either way I laughed about it.

So as I move forward on the build I will post more. Hints and tips are humbly requested, as this is my first and a half bi-plane (the first being a Roden Dh2 that will be in the "oops" section shortly...)

Thanks all!

uncletony · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2014, 06:40:44 AM »

Great to see you diving in and posting your photos. Yeah, on the seat, probably hotter water, or let it sit longer. Live and learn. I think the Tom's modelworks PE set has a seat back, if you are inclined to fix it.

Des · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2014, 08:28:36 AM »

Nice to see you jump in feet first Jason, no better way to learn than to get stuck into it. Your progress so far is looking pretty good, pity about the seat back but I have heard of this issue quite a few times from other modelers. As Bo mentioned, if you feel as though you want to fix the seat the PE set is one option, or you could cut a new seat back from thin styrene sheet and drill corresponding holes, the thin styrene bends very easy without heat. Looking forward to seeing more progress photos of this build.

Des.

LindsayT · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2014, 10:53:44 AM »

Quote from: treadhead1944 on April 20, 2014, 05:10:55 AM

I figure the water was not hot enough, or it cooled too quickly... Either way I laughed about it.

I like the cut of your jib.

Lindsay

RAGIII · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2014, 11:24:06 AM »

Your overall work looks good to me! You are not the first to have that seat back break and won't be the last.... After all I have one to build

RAGIII

treadhead1944 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2014, 11:39:03 AM »

I have the seat issue solved, kinda... The brass set for the Spad comes with a seat, and the dimensions are the same, so for the greater good, a sacrifice will be made. I hope to get some more done tomorrow, pictures to follow.

IanB · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2014, 11:40:20 AM »

Nice start, shame about the seat. I agree with Des and would recommend you cut one from thin styrene sheet, then drill it. It will bend around the seat cushion very easily.

Ian

treadhead1944 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2014, 11:42:12 AM »

Quote from: LindsayT on April 20, 2014, 10:53:44 AM

Quote from: treadhead1944 on April 20, 2014, 05:10:55 AM

I figure the water was not hot enough, or it cooled too quickly... Either way I laughed about it.

I like the cut of your jib.

Lindsay

Why thank you. It was kinda funny, I set it down all proud, when suddenly "tick". What was that? Oh. The seat... get my camera..

treadhead1944 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2014, 07:04:31 AM »

Just a quick update, nothing too much to report, what with the family and the overeating and all...

First, the prop:

Now it needs to dry, some paint on the hub, and then some Johnson's Magic shiny stuff that used to be called Future.

The saga of the seat continues. I mentioned I had a seat that was surplus to demands from my Spad that was pretty close.

Some work with a file to round the corners out a bit:

In the depths of a food coma, grab the wrong size drill bit for the pin vice...

It still looks pretty good, and I am going to run with it for now, maybe pick up some sheet styrene tomorrow and go for round 3...lol

treadhead1944 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:40:34 AM »

A quandary has developed. My Se5a made a surprise appearance today from New Zealand. I am not happy with the Rosen kit at all, as I find the instructions vague, and parts painting a bit more of a guess than I like. So do I set the nieuport aside for now, and jump on the easier kit? Or do I stay the course with the 24? Sigh... thinking time...

uncletony · « **Reply #10 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:55:33 AM »

No one's keeping score. If you have lost interest, pack it up neatLy with whatever notes you think you will need when / if you come back to it.

coyotemagic · « **Reply #11 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:16:45 AM »

I agree with Bo. Roden kits can be extraordinarily frustrating, even for a seasoned modeler. WNW kits, on the other hand, are nearly fool-proof (so long as you keep all mating surfaces free of paint).
Cheers,
Bud

treadhead1944 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 23, 2014, 11:46:47 AM »

Bo, Bud, you are right. Tomorrow I will wash and prime, and get the airbrush ready. And then I will change the name of this thread.

I am surprised the kit got here so fast, it shipped on the 18th, and I was not expecting it until Friday at the earliest.

IFF1418 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 23, 2014, 09:05:59 PM »

Hi Jason,

I would have stayed with the Nieuport, but on the other hand, you will not regret starting the beautiful SE5a from WnW. A very nice kit. It will be somewhat more difficult in rigging I think. Good luck!

Kind regards
Patrick

RAGIII · « **Reply #14 on:** April 23, 2014, 10:06:04 PM »

Like Bo and Bud, I think you have made the right decision based on you hesitance to continue the Nieuport. The Roden kits take a bit more finesse and work to assemble. Perhaps after a couple of WNW kits you will go back to the Nieuport. I am looking forward to following your SE5a build.
RAGIII