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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2014, 03:34:55 AM »
It looks very good your build Graham.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2014, 03:40:52 AM »
Lovely and I'm still taking notes  ;)

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2014, 04:56:53 AM »
Nice, clean build! My two C.IIs arrived in Saturday's mail and I intend to begin work on one of them as soon as I finish the interior on my Fokker D.VII F. (Yes, it's still progressing :)  ).

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2014, 08:47:53 PM »
Hello Graham,

Very neat interior, wonderful work and may I repeat that your wood grain is superb?

Kind regards
Patrick

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2014, 08:58:57 PM »
Very nice looking interior on of my all time favourites!
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2014, 09:32:08 PM »
This is coming along beautifully Graham. La Poste tried to deliver my CII this morning. Naturally enough I was out.

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2014, 06:43:01 AM »
Thanks all. I'm seeing that I can settle into this niche of modelling very comfortably and happily now - perhaps with the occasional diversion to a WW1 ship model or one of the new-generation Airfix WW2 aircraft.

I am really enjoying this Roland kit partly because it makes me want to look harder at the relatively few published photographs. The colour scheme is truly a "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma" to quote WC and my interpretation is one of several possibilities. Will take the plunge in the next day or so after the engine is fitted and the fuselage closed up.

Cheers,

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2014, 08:00:59 AM »
Hi,

 well some little progress along the way but I've finally bumped into my inadequacies.

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I finished the internals and the engine and mated right and left frames. This was slightly delicate but they do go together nicely. I had to remember to insert the port side lug of the observer' seat base into the port frame, carefully avoiding the rudder cable tube. Then had to do same when attaching the right frame. In retrospect in might be better to attach the two tubes (but previously rigged) after the two halves come together.



I remembered to attach the header tank/radiator pipe (part F12) before the next step. Then the problems began. I fitted the two main fuselage halves together and taped them up - there was no issue with closure due to misaligned internals or the 'laminations'. Then the tail unit was attached B13 - my little world of pain started. In my neglect/binding of Tamiya tape I had not checked that the two halves were perfectly aligned. I saw that the port side was a hair's breadth in advance of the starboard side and at the tail apex was a hair's breadth too low. This meant that B13 did not fit without leaving  slight gap all around. Some Surfacer 500 and Tamiya putty came to the rescue but I'm not sure how well until I get a primer coat on. PLEASE, PLEASE check this as it is crucial - it is surprisingly quite difficult to restore a smooth unblemished surface. Fortunately there is a transverse band around the rear of B15 and B16 that allows thin putty to be run alongside but there is risk in sanding. B---er!






I next attached the upper fuselage panel F4 after earlier painting the inner part of the cockpit coaming in my leather colour, and the lower part (B17) after drilling out & away the two bomb nose cones. Again there are several seams to deal with - four on upper part and two long complex joins on lower. The fitting of these could have been better on my part and again I think one needs to spend time carefully checking the fit before committing to glue and fix. I have yet to tidy up the seams but the upper will be fairly decent.

Then the next boo-boo - this is becoming a farce - I was idly looking at the WNW instructions and photographs and noticed that an oil filler tube and cap protrudes through a cowling panel (A54) on the right side. I couldn't see it on my model. This stupid boy had not realised that there was an oil tank, A20, to be fitted before closing up the fuselage frames! I think I was looking at stage 4 in the instructions without noticing the oil tank diagram below - there is a mismatch in the drawings showing the engine installed.

I will now have to cut the tank horizontally in half (where it wraps around the water tube) and insert in from above - trompe d'oeil rather than real.

Another couple of hints:

Don't bother attaching the rear lever E12 to the engine as it blocks the insertion of the upper wing tabs. I could force it out the way but will probably just cut notches in the two tabs. It can't be seen anyway - but purists might want it there.

If using the Taurus spark plugs (or any others) don't attach the forward left-hand plug until late in the build - it makes masking of the engine (for fuselage painting) difficult as it just protrudes over the lip of the fuselage side. I'll have to snap mine off and replace it later.

Oh well - this is not as simple as it looks - bring on a BE2 any day!

Cheers,

Graham
« Last Edit: April 27, 2014, 08:32:12 AM by GrahamB »

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2014, 08:48:16 AM »
Brilliant work on the interior, Graham!  Both cockpit and engine are fantastic.  Coming from the world of 1/48 scale limited run kits, I came to expect a little filler and sanding.  Perfect fit is rare.  Don't worry about a wee bit of misalignment as I'm sure it will be unnoticeable in the end.  Keep up the great work.
Cheers,
Bud
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2014, 09:13:06 AM »
Hi Bud,

Ta. Yes I think the curved Roland fuselage design/wing attachments are a difficult one for kit designers anyway but I probably rather rushed this aspect and created problems for myself.

Just a small correction to the piece above. Regarding E12 lever - WNW do cleverly provide a slot on the lower surface of the left wing root tab to accommodate it but it is a tight squeeze and my E12 came off (perhaps exaggerate the angle a little when fitting though?). I also thought that the upper edge of the dashboard would interfere with the tabs but these are cut out to slide in front and are shortened at the rear  (just - perhaps shave a beveled edge a bit more for safety and reducing the strain/forces when inserting). Dry fit looks OK on my right wing but I'll need to level the vertical mating surface of my left fuselage wing root profile. I think this is another place where some real care is needed - to squeeze in the fuselage halves gently to match part F4.

I think the worst is over after I've cleaned up - the painting kerfuffle begins!

Cheers,

Graham

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2014, 09:20:16 AM »
Looking good. Nice to see where I have to pay more attention when I start mine. Cant wait to see the paint on.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2014, 09:36:08 AM »
All the internals, framework and engine look extremely well done Graham, the fuselage seems to be coming together very well apart from your few little hiccups along the way, we all have these annoyong little issues when building our models. Looking forward to seeing the next updates.

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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2014, 02:05:20 PM »
Great work!  looking forward to updates.
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2014, 02:27:30 PM »
Graham,
In a word OUTSATNDING! Looks absolutely Terrific!
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Re: WNW Roland CII
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2014, 05:00:06 PM »
Great progress Graham.

Unfortunately, or fortunately being the first to build a kit means you stumble across the little niggles unprepared. I have to thank you for pointing them out for us along the way.

WNW have often been criticised by some for their instructions, it's not unexpected to miss a bit here or there  ;) Hours spent reading them in the office (sittin on the loo) sometimes is an advantage.

I've started mine. I jump about doing mini constructions of sub assemblies so if you haven't got there and are using the covered parrabellum magazine option note that the main drum body is misnumbered it isn't G15 as stated its on sprue A with the other magazine parts.

As their tolerances are so fine theres little room to wiggle and jiggle parts and if you do get them out of line they can be a real headache to sort. Often it only comes to light much further down the construction line. As you are finding out.

Anyone thinking of building option C should note the need to scratch a new header tank it's so blatantly clear in the pic in the construction manual I dunno how WNW failed to spot it.?

Option A, theres a funny arrangement just below & in front of the left observers window, maybe reinforcing for something fitted inside or a strange repair. It's clear as day to a toilet sitter...lol  ::)

Keith

Anyone choosing to use the lovely flare racks are going to have to guess/scratch the window and inside of the flare holders.

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