Author Topic: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)  (Read 33894 times)

Offline Jacek

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2013, 08:13:00 PM »
I can see that it is possible to do the rigging and do not tangle up ;D  Great job!

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2013, 11:30:32 PM »
Geez, turn my back for a minute and look what you've done, Des! :o
I can't get over the rigging.  I'll be shocked if you come out of this with
your eyesight and/or mind intact!  Thanks for posting this...it's good to see what can
be done by an artist.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #122 on: October 07, 2013, 11:30:45 AM »
Absolutely gorgeous.

Amazing build from you Des... once again!

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2013, 09:42:55 PM »
A beautiful model of a beautiful plane. I really love your scratchbuilds Des!
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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #124 on: October 13, 2013, 05:40:05 AM »
lean with respect, master  :)
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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #125 on: October 13, 2013, 06:38:42 AM »
Thank you very much for all the very kind words, they are much appreciated.

I am awaiting arrival of some more materials to finish off the wings, hopefully the parcel will arrive around Wednesday, in the mean time I will be making heaps of turnbuckles.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #126 on: October 13, 2013, 08:07:30 AM »
Hi Des.  Your Spinne is coming along absolutely beautifully.  It is such a pleasure
to see a work of art take shape like this.  just out of curiosity, are pre-war aeroplanes
of special interest to you?  I have to admit I find just the flimsy look of the little kites
quite appealing and I am really enjoying your build. Thanks for sharing it with us!

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #127 on: October 13, 2013, 08:44:43 AM »
Thanks Ernie for your nice comments. I am very interested in the pre-war aircraft, they were the forerunners to the fighting machines and they paved the way for the development of more advanced types. Many very inventive people experimented with the early machines, they were flimsy to say the least and not having enough power from the engines was a real hinderance. I love the wood and wire early planes, the very basic construction, low speed, and the men who flew them, they must have been real guts men back then.

You have probably noticed the Spinne has no seat belts, it has no rudder bar, turning was purely by rudder through the control wheel, there were no ailerons or wing warping, there was elevator warping but no instruments at all, the fuel gauge was the old tried and true glass tube on the side of the fuel tank. The engine only produced 50hp, this was enough to lift the aircraft plus two people, the poor passenger had to sit between the two radiators and directly behind the engine which had no exhaust pipes, there were no windscreens either.

Here is a great photo of the very young Anthony Fokker sitting in his Spinne which is the type I am trying to reproduce with my model. Notice that Anthony has an instrument strapped to his leg, the throttle lever is beside his left leg, this is what I call basic flying.

Click the photo for a much larger and clearer image.

Des.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #128 on: October 14, 2013, 01:22:23 AM »
As you have written Des the early machines were very basic and must have taken a great deal of courage to fly, especially as the engines were not particularly reliable and had a tendency to fail. The risks that those early pilots took were considerable - sadly many lost their lives - so to perform stunts and loops was even more remarkable. The lack of instruments and straps meant that flying really was done by feel and instinct and had a real element of danger - I remember reading recently the record of a WW1 pilot who said that after take off he rarely looked at his instruments - he used the sound of the engine and the wind on his face to sense whether all was well!!

What is more, with new designs, the pilots taxied them on the ground, made a few adjustments and then tried to take off! If the aeroplane took to the air that was a success. Control and design was basic  - indeed the maxim seems to have been - "if it looks right, it probably is right" and it usually was. Materials used in construction were also pretty basic by today's standards: piano wire was used because it was so strong, linen because it was light and strong, and wood because craftsmen knew how to shape and join it. When one looks at the designs of mid 1914 and compare them with designs of early 1919 it becomes very obvious how technology had moved on: the pilots were no less brave or adventurous however! Like you I like the primitive look of these early machines with all of the bits and pieces hanging off here and there, and all of the wires holding them together. They make very interesting and challenging models to build.

Your model really is a wonder to behold - you are making a fantastic achievement with it - I look on in awe and am left speechless that such work can be accomplished.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2013, 12:45:27 AM »
Des, Nice work! I feel a little foolish getting stressed on my DH-9 after seeing this. However- excellent stuff to look at, and good stuff for trying to improve one's own efforts. This machine does make the Eindekker look very sophisticated though!

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2013, 05:02:37 AM »
  Des,
While looking at the photo of Fokker's Spinne it occured to me this must be the genesis of the expression "Wind in your hair and bugs in your teeth" Thanks for sharing a great photo my old friend.
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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #131 on: October 15, 2013, 08:51:48 AM »
The wings are now finished, they were very simple to make, they are sitting on the bench in the photo just to show the size, they are not large wings. I used 0.85mm steel wire for the wing mounts, they were bent to shape then attached to the undercarriage legs, the original aircraft used U bolts so I used 0.13mm copper wire which gives a strong but neat connection. I will be using 1.2mm brass tubes for the spars, these will slip over the steel wire wing mounts, it's the 1:2mm brass tube that is holding me up at the moment, I am still awaiting deliveries.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #132 on: October 15, 2013, 11:45:13 AM »
This is amazing work Des!  How did you make the wings themselves?  I love the look of these spindley pioneer craft, and you have truly captured it with this bird, er, arachnid. ;D. Very well done!!!

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #133 on: October 15, 2013, 10:32:17 PM »
Wonderful!  I can't wait to see the wings on.

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Re: 1:32 Fokker Spinne (Spider)
« Reply #134 on: October 16, 2013, 12:48:54 AM »
Absolutely wonderful model! Especially all scratch build parts and the rigging and control wires.

In this scale though the elevator looks a bit on the thick side. It is just one sheet of linen over steel tubes. Size and shape are spot on.

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