Author Topic: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...FINI....  (Read 3993 times)

Offline Allan31

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Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...FINI....
« on: September 13, 2025, 02:31:31 AM »
In my ongoing efforts to equalize the balance of power in the display case, I'm focusing on things with roundels rather than crosses.

There are many aspects to this hobby that I enjoy. Like trying to decide what book to read next, there is a lot of taking down and putting back that gives me the opportunity to appreciate so many different aspects of these both old and new kits. The past two weeks has seen maybe a dozen kits pulled off the shelf, opened up, marveled at and returned for one reason or another. While looking at the pile, my brain had an instant question "Why do I have two Nieuport 17 kits?". I then remembered I sent out an extra MvR bust to a fellow forum member and this kit magically appeared.



So thanks to Tim Mixon for NOT reducing my stash, for continuing to be an enabler and for deciding he likes 1/72 scale better than 1/48 (much to our enjoyment). The thought of the classic looking silver Nieuport on the shelf with the indian head painted on the side was too much to resist. Growing up, I thought all Nieuports looked this way.



Raoul Lufbery. He certainly fits in here for this GB.



I get great markings in the box printed by Cartagraf so no aftermarket hunting needed. A nifty little fret of brass PE. Great looking plastic with no surgery save for, as I understand it, 1.5mm off the landing gear legs.





So far the only hand-wringing I can find is with the markings on the side. Eduard has the three bars in black whereas ALL the other interpretations I see have them in red. Easy fix but please chime in as to what you think they should be. I'm leaning towards red just because it's prettier.

I guess when your day job is flying aircraft that could quit on you any moment and fighting the likes of MvR's Flying Circus with jammed machine guns, relaxing in the afternoon with a full grown lion seems harmless enough...



More soon....
« Last Edit: October 05, 2025, 07:41:36 AM by Allan31 »
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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2025, 02:46:42 AM »
Ooooh excited 'bout this one Allan  ;D
It's a silver Nieuport with an Indian head on the side so what's not to like  ;)  I agree red stripes will look prettier so that's what I'd choose if it were my build

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2025, 03:12:00 AM »
Looking forward to your build Allan


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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2025, 11:34:14 PM »
Looking forward to this. I too need to even out the balance of powers in my display case...... ;D

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2025, 10:37:56 AM »
Hey? I thought that box looked familiar!  Excellent choice to bolster your allied air contingent.

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery..Part 2...
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2025, 11:02:37 PM »
An evening spent cutting plastic. Strange to work on something that doesn't require cutting and hacking to make it fit together. I could get used to this...

Starting with the cockpit.



It will be nice to acually see the cockpit when finished even with the top wing in place.



I opened up the control cable pass through.



A few minutes to swipe around with the sanding stick and we are ready for primer.

« Last Edit: September 25, 2025, 09:12:23 AM by Allan31 »
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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2025, 11:29:24 PM »
And right before our eyes a Nieuport appeared  8)

Nice one Alan. Looking forward to the next update

Paul
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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2025, 02:28:50 AM »
Making quick work with this one , looking good so far


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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2025, 02:53:38 AM »
It's quite fun when you can just build something! A nice start here, it looks like this won't take too long...... :)

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery....
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2025, 03:47:08 AM »
Great start. I'm glad you've brought this relatively old kit to life. I'm also impressed by your pace of construction.

Joerg

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...Part 3...
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2025, 09:08:28 AM »
Before painting, somewhere I read the landing gear legs need shortening so I cut off 1/16" and added brass wire pins.



After that, in an rare and amazing fit of cranial clarity, I remembered to adjust the locating holes for the landing gear under the fuselage.
I had mixed a "silbergrau" for my Pfalz but I don't remember what I did. I thought the Nieuport should be different anyway. I went with a 50/50 mix of these.



When I do this again, I will add some Future to the mix as a binder. I was getting some weird silver blotching when touched but all is good sealed in Future.
Painted and ready for decals.



Everyone went on well.



I discarded the 3 black bars included on the sheet and made my own red ones from red wing markings.



I'm gonna let this sit and dry out a couple of days as it feels like it's not dry enough to add another coat of Future. Perhaps I added too much "flow improver".



More soon,
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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...Part 3....
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2025, 10:33:26 AM »
That's looking quite sharp, Allan. I like that paint mix.
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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...Part 3....
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2025, 06:41:06 PM »
Nice progress, this will be a very sharp Nie 17. I agree with Zac, the aluminium dope finish looks good.

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...Part 3....
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2025, 09:50:40 PM »
Nice work Allan. I?ll have to remember to copy your aluminum dope recipe. I?m impressed with the Indian head decal. It looks like there are six, maybe seven, different colors in it. I have a few in 1/72 and they all seem to use about four colors and look very cartoonish.
Press on!

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Re: Aces Mounts 2025 GB, Eduard Nieuport 17, Raoul Lufbery...Part 4....
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2025, 03:01:52 AM »
A cautionary tale.....

So after the above decals went on, I let things dry out for a couple of days and then went onto the grunge wash and weathering stage.
I typically use a dot of black and a dot of brown oil paint and a puddle of white spirits and have at it. This all went well at a rattling good pace, trying all the while to remember Nigal's "less is more" and I think I succeeded to some degree. Since the oil wash is so thinned it can easily be rubbed off so after a day drying out I seal it all up with a Future/Matt finish.



I have used this on dozens of models with great results. This time however I used the "New-Improved" version as I ran out of 70.520.



26.651 is not the same nor is it as compatible as the old 70.520 was with Future. Everything looked great in the airbrush pot. Everything looked great when sprayed on. Something happened while drying. The two components seem to separate. You can just see the flat accumulating at the edges.



It also seems that the finish over the decal is glossier than over the paint. On other parts, it almost has an alligator finish but microscopic.



Solution. I originally ordered the "New/Improved" gloss medium to be compatible with the new matt. Then thought "screw that" as I have a life time supply of Future I cancelled the new stuff and ordered the old stuff.

I will continue to assemble my little 17. I'm sure one coat, maybe two will fix all these little anomolies and smooth everything out and it will look fine on the shelf.

More soon.....

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Allan Buttrick

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