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Offline Rafael Berlin

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WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« on: January 21, 2025, 04:07:08 AM »
Hello everyone,

time for something new with wings. Greetings from France to the USA: Wingnut Wings Kit Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"



A detailing set from HGW sneaked in too. Some parts might be useful.

Supported by some Pheon Decals it is planned to build the following version:




I started the build on November 3rd, so I already can show some results.


Cockpit Floor:

It started with a light pre-shading of the light linen parts:



The effect is actually pretty good, unfortunately not in the photo:



This time a new approach on my part. All important bonding points have been masked.



Preparing aluminum:



Also from below:



Aluminum, Alclad 2. I still have some of the good stuff in the glass bottles. I had previously masked the wooden frames too, not that anyone is surprised.



Masking...



The unmasked frame parts received an XF-18 shower.



Mask again, this time for the wood



These slats also had to be protected



Base layer for wood



There's nothing like the effect of good oil paint:



If you paint a test area, you will know when the oil paint is dry. After 4 days I sealed everything with Tamiya TS13 gloss varnish. Shines beautifully.  ;D



This weird thing needs to turn blue. A signal lamp will come in later.



Masking again...



Masking fluid covered a little too much



Rest corrected with brush



To make it look more like wood, now the matt varnish



Now it's getting exciting, unpacking, where has paint leaked?



Fortunately, the problems were limited:




This was quickly fixed.

There is a PE grid over these slats. This was my first time working with metal primer. Be careful, despite the mask and suction hood you will almost find yourself short of breath. Devil's stuff.



I was surprised, the color held up extremely well.

The grid is installed here:




Later pilot seat and instrument panel were built.

The pilot's seat is divided into two parts, with the control mechanism still to be taken into account on the lower part. The adhesive areas were masked.


Dark brown base paint



I saw a pretty cool video on how to fix a cracked leather seat. So why not try it out? Ocher stains were applied to the brown with a sponge (and a brush).





Oil paint:



Because of the shine and because the result is dark, it is difficult to photograph



After a few days it was sealed with semi-matt clear varnish.

The mechanical side parts still had to be painted. But I didn't want to do it with masking tape. Here's a little spontaneous trick. Holes made in paper and a paper cut:


This way you can spray without messing up the rest  ;D


Here is the later state



The instrument panel

One of the few ejection marks in a visible location. The dentist's probe points to the right. (I can highly recommend this dental cutlery, super sharp, you can pre-mark holes, scrape out cracks, ...)


Once again masking



The wooden part was created exactly as described above. Ocher color and oil paint applied directly on top with a flat brush. The foot recess was sprayed with Alclad 2 Microfiller Black and then with Alclad 2 Aluminum. I did a few shades, just by letting the black shine through more or less. But you can hardly see it in the photo.



The back was absolutely analogous, also made of wood and aluminum. Then something had to be masked there, here to spray an instrument and the Generator, afterwards.





A small compass. I put in more work than you see in the end. The decal has covered the brass edge. Oh well. You can see it when browsing in the link with all the photos at the end of this post, but it would be unnecessary here.



Here is a pulsator (?). It was a little more complicated:


Clear Yellow/Orange according to feeling...



A few Hours later the tip was masked



Now everything is shiny black



Alclad 2 polished brass


Unmask, some panelliner and you're done:



Here is the finished instrument panel, with decals (all sealed with clear varnish to imitate the glass), compass, pulsator (?), ...



And here is the state of construction (already a few weeks ago), everything is just plugged in





I kept the construction report a little more detailed. Maybe some people will like or benefit from this. If it's OK, I'll continue in this style.

The state of construction is already a little more advanced. More updates will follow in the next few days.

Best Regards
Rafael


PS: Here is a link to tons of pics including the latest status of this project. Unfiltered, unsorted, unedited: https://photos.app.goo.gl/6HJAoo86QpPWBft5A



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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2025, 05:38:34 AM »
Excellent representation of the leather seat and the metal parts. I also really like the way you have depicted the woodgrain.
And thanks for the detail in your thread, I can certainly benefit from that
Greetings from HH
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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2025, 07:26:12 AM »
Detailed information about construction, type and colors used are TOP - a great help for all readers/modelers.

Your work on the Salmson looks very good Rafael!

Btw:
Both Wingnut Salmson kits are superbly modeled - I am very surprised that these two kits - like the AMC DH.9 - are treated so underrated.

Servus
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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2025, 09:08:16 AM »
   Superb detail and quality of work; keep up the excellent presentation. This is going to be a real joy to follow!
Cheers,
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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2025, 10:36:49 AM »
Fantastic work.  Please keep this level of detail up, it is sooo helpful!

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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2025, 07:27:24 PM »
Superb work, I love your wood finish and the leather seat turned out well. Also, all the little hints and tips are very helpful, thank you for those.

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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2025, 12:06:42 AM »
Thanks to all of you for your kind words  :)

Btw:
Both Wingnut Salmson kits are superbly modeled - I am very surprised that these two kits - like the AMC DH.9 - are treated so underrated.

Bertl, I couldn't agree more. So far it is fantastic kit with high amount of details, and everything fits just perfectly. I also very much like the available colour schemes out of the box AND via Pheon decals.
And yes, the AMC DH.9 is still available in Germany for 155 EUR, during Black Friday week even for approximately 110 EUR. Nobody wants to buy it...

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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2025, 12:16:36 AM »
Detailed information about construction, type and colors used are TOP - a great help for all readers/modelers.

Your work on the Salmson looks very good Rafael!

Btw:
Both Wingnut Salmson kits are superbly modeled - I am very surprised that these two kits - like the AMC DH.9 - are treated so underrated.

Servus
Bertl

I agree 100% on everything you said Bertl! The Salmson is a Terrific kit and I also am surprised more are not built. I also agree that Rafaels details and painting are Fantastic! Keep up the detailed log Rafael!!
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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2025, 03:00:13 AM »
Thanks RAGIII, I will do my very best!


So hello everyone, today some small things...


I'll start with the radio system, which could at least transmit Morse signals via the roll-out antenna. Some in the forum will certainly know more about this. Unfortunately you won't see much of it later, but it was still fun.


Let's go...

The device itself consists of 2 molded parts, a normal part and a transparent part:




I have no explanation for the details inside, but I interpreted the large vertical cylinder as a coil. Would it really have been copper colored? Presumably a protective layer over it? No matter, artistic freedom, for me it will be copper.
So black glossy primer and then added the copper (I masked the later adhesive surface between the halves, hence the thin bead all around):




The inner border should later have a metallic shimmer. Since the black primer is already there, now is the best time to do it. So mask copper coil and later display:




Coil demasked



I thought perhaps the electrical components were mounted on an insulating plate, perhaps Bakelite. I just imagined it to be shiny orange-brown. Brush work, I forgot the exact color, but it's not that important:



Then some grain with watercolor pencils and finally with Clear Orange, also painted over with a brush. The decal for the scale was also added (which was later "glazed" with clear varnish):



Luckily, I had pre-treated the adhesive surface with masking fluid, which makes it a little easier (better than damaging something when scraping with a blade):



Dry fit



Mask viewing window. If you look closely, the two halves don't fit together very well. After gluing, some sanding had to be done (not in the pics). But it works also better if the transparent part is protected in the window area.



Adding a layer of this "French Blue" (Tamiya XF-23). I always add some Clear (X-22), otherwise it looks too dull and matte. In this case about 2 parts blue and one part gloss varnish.



The rest was painting details, small washes on individual parts, playing with pigments, graphite pencil for the rivets... Here is the finished radio (unfortunately a bit difficult to photograph)





Just to compare the size, the thing is quite small...



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Even though the order seems a bit mixed up, here's an update on the supports between the wings.

All 8 pieces, already properly prepared:




The supports should be made of wood. The 5 ?rings? on each of the supports are supposed to represent linen straps, which were wrapped and glued on top for stiffening. At least that's how I understood it from the building instructions.

I wanted to make the supports as similar (not identical) as possible, so they should all go through the same steps in one operation. And it should be comfortable to set them aside to dry. A wooden stick should help.




The holes were drilled a little further and further and further until the supports could be inserted tightly:



The ends were then protected with masking fluid:




Brown color, an ocher tone, I think Desert Yellow (XF-59). Together with other components (more on these in subsequent posts).



Use of oil paint, essentially "burnt sienna". I also mixed some other shades of brown + black so that not all the supports look exactly the same (but on the pics the effect is hardly visible).




Sealed with TS13 after drying. The masking of the ends could then be removed.




The supports shouldn't end up looking too dull, which in my opinion doesn't fit with components that are supposed to have low air resistance.


Now to the linen straps. Decals are included in the kit. Even in 2 different colors. In the end we don't know the exact colors. We only know that there was a light and a dark version. I chose light. But I voted against decals. I think it would be very complicated to bring them all up convincingly (but maybe I'm wrong).

Masking was quite a challenge because the supports taper towards the ends. You have to fiddle for a really long time for the outer rings. I wanted to prevent the sprayed paint from running under the masking. Therefore two hints.

Firstly:
Work with absolute precision. Applying some tapes seemed to take forever. However, in the end it worked somehow.


Secondly:
Spray on with your airbrush from a long distance. This means that the paint particles are dry as soon as they hit the object. This gives the rings a slightly rougher/matter structure, which is in no way a problem with linen. And since the paint is almost dry when it hits the strut, nothing runs under the masing tape. The disadvantage is that you use a lot of paint for a few small rings.



Fits for me



Only 7 to go



Now the edges had to be set off a little. So the bands were painted with a kind of panel liner (I used Ammo Mig PLW Black Night A.MIG-1611). Allow to dry briefly.



The rings were then exposed again using Ammo Mig Enamel Odorless Thinner and a brush and the color was minimally smeared onto the wood. That took some of the shine off.



Finally, the ends were given a light blue (XF-23) paint (typical for the French machines).



To be honest, the net working time was certainly exceeding 1 hour per strut. I didn't expect that before.

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Just another note: The order in the construction report may seem a bit confusing, but I like to post completed construction phases, even if they took several weeks. Of course, I also continued working on other thingsin the meantime. That will be in subsequent posts.

Thanks a lot for watching,
Rafael





And as always for those who are curious, here are all my photos of the project including the latest status. However, unsorted, unedited, bad ones included, duplicate ones, from different angles and against different backgrounds  :P
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6HJAoo86QpPWBft5A




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Re: WnW 1/32 Salmson 2-A2 "USAS"
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2025, 03:04:46 AM »
Thanks for the great update. Your step by step process is very helpful.

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2025, 08:46:11 AM »
Great job, very well done.   ;)

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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2025, 06:12:21 PM »
Superb attention to detail. It will definitely be worth it, as this is looking like an amazing build already.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2025, 12:14:14 AM »
Great stuff, Rafael. Lovely!
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2025, 04:07:36 AM »
Wow, great details and very well explained. Thank you

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2025, 09:31:54 AM »
Yes, thank you indeed!  Beautiful work.  Really appreciate the hints and tips. / Ian