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1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« on: November 24, 2022, 10:25:09 PM »
Hi all,
As the Sopwith '5F.1 'Dolphin' build is getting close to completion, I've started preparing my next build.
This model will represent:
Nieuport XVII (17) C.1, Serial No: N1977 of N124 ‘Lafayette’ Escadrille during March 1917 and as flown by Sgt. Robert Soubiran.







Background:
Robert Soubiran was born in France to Theodore and Clementine (Malapris) Soubiran, but grew up in New York City. As a young man, he had a knack for mechanical things and began
maintaining and racing automobiles with Ralph de Palma, the winner of the 1915 Indianapolis 500.
World War One:
On August 7, 1914, three days after Germany declared war against France, Soubiran enlisted in the French Foreign Legion in Paris and was among the first group of 43 American volunteers.
He served in the Chemin des Dames sector with other future Lafayette Escadrille pilots James Bach, Bert Hall, Kiffin Rockwell, Paul Rockwell, and William Thaw.
When the French became aware of his mechanical abilities, he was tasked to drive a threshing machine to harvest the wheat within the war zone.
Soubiran served with the 2nd Foreign Regiment in the Battle of Champagne and the 170th Line Infantry Regiment.
He was injured in October 1915 and spent four months recovering in the hospital.
While there, he applied and was accepted into France's Service Aeronautique.
He underwent aviation and gunnery training at Pau, Buc, and the G.D.E. earning his brevet flying a Caudron aircraft on the 27th of May1916 and graduated on the 20th of October,1916.
He joined the N124 Escadrille Americaine (‘Lafayette’) at Cachy in the Somme sector on the 22nd of October 1916.
A year later, on the 9th of November 1917, Soubiran received the French Croix de Guerre with Palm for an action on the 17th of October, 1917, when he received his first and only confirmed victory over an enemy aircraft.
His award citation read:
"An American enlisted since the beginning of the war in the Foreign Legion, where he took part in the combats in the Aisne in 1914 and in the Champagne attacks in 1915.
Wounded on the 19th of October 1915. Passed into the Aviation, he showed himself an excellent pilot, fulfilling with remarkable ardour the missions confided to him.
On the 17th of October 1917, while protecting an attack on Drachen’s (enemy observation balloons), forced an enemy to land out of control."
When the United States entered the war, Soubiran was transferred to the American 103rd Aero Squadron and commissioned as a Captain.
He flew combat patrols in the French built SPAD XIII.
He was then assigned as the 3rd Pursuit Group's Operations Officer.
On the 20th of August 1918, he married Ann-Marie Choudey in Langres, France with many of his Legionnaire and Lafayette Escadrille friends in attendance.
On the 18th of October 1918, he was assigned back to the 103rd Aero Squadron as its Commanding Officer and served there until the end of the war.
Soubiran accumulated over 400 hours of combat flight time in his 23 months with the French Air Service and in 10 months with the U.S. Air Service.
Post World War One:
On the 19th of April 1919, France made Captain Soubiran a Chevalier de la Legion d'Honneur and he was also awarded a second Palm to his Croix de Guerre.
This citation reads:
"American citizen enlisted in August 1914 in the Foreign Legion. Was distinguished in the infantry (wounded in September 1915), then as a pilot in the 'Escadrille Lafayette’, where he showed the highest qualities of courage and audacity."
Foot note:
Robert Soubiran owned a Kodak camera and photographed all aspects of life and death as an aviator during World War I.
Fellow squadron pilot James Normal Hall said that the ‘Lafayette Escadrille’ pilots have Soubiran to thank for the squadron's only complete photographic record.
Death:
Robert Soubiran died on the 4th of February 1949 and was buried next to wife, who died in 1982, in Pinelawn Military, East Farmingdale, Long Island, New York.

Mike
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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2022, 01:25:02 AM »
Looking forward to this one.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2022, 11:23:25 PM »
As I always say, "You can't have too many Nieuports". I'll enjoy watching this build.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2022, 06:52:11 AM »
As I always say, "You can't have too many Nieuports". I'll enjoy watching this build.
Hear hear, on both points!
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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2022, 11:38:36 PM »
Hi all,
Just a couple of updates.
All of the parts have prepared with mould seams, 'flash' and sprue tags removed.
The tailplane/elevator seam was cut through to separate the tailplane from the elevator, leaving just the hinges intact.
The upper wing ailerons were drilled and pinned with 0.5 mm diameter Brass rod to enable them to be positioned,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2022, 01:31:09 AM »
Looking forward to this one as well.  What kit are you starting with? 

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2022, 03:06:32 AM »
I wonder if Soubiran is an American simplification of the Provencal name Soubeyrans as exemplified in Marcel Pagnol's exquisite books Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources - and the glorious movies that followed from director Claude Berri. If you don't know these get to know them as soon as you can. They'll change your life.
Features a young Soubeyrans returning from La Grande Guerre.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2022, 03:41:17 AM »
Looking forward to this one as well.  What kit are you starting with?
Hi Tim,
It's the 'Copper State Models' Nieuport XVII kit 32002 later version.
It differed from the earlier version:

Removed clear acetate covering on the centre section of the upper wing
Single Vickers fuselage mounted machine gun
Different engine cowl
Oil tank repositioned
Windscreen changed
Modified wing leading edge ribs.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2022, 01:15:22 AM »
Sandy, thanks for the literature suggestion. I will follow that up. Your previous recommendation was very good. Nice work Mike. Looks like another winner. I've noticed these Copper State XVII's have sky rocketed in price.

Steve
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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2022, 09:05:41 PM »
Sandy, thanks for the literature suggestion. I will follow that up. Your previous recommendation was very good. Nice work Mike. Looks like another winner. Iève noticed these Copper State XVII's have sky rocketed in price.

Steve

Hi Steve,
Here in the UK the models are selling for around the original release price.
Ebay for between £68 and £80.
'Hannants' are selling them for around the same.
I bought mine when it was released and it cost £78,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2022, 10:38:39 PM »
Mike if you`ll need any help I am here to assist

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2022, 05:38:30 AM »
Hi Edgar,
Thanks - good to know,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2022, 06:55:46 PM »
Hi all,
The Le Rhone 9J engine is done.
The added ignition leads are 0.125 mm diameter copper wire.
The replaced valve push rods are 0.4 mm diameter Nickel-Silver tube.

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2022, 08:05:54 PM »
Hi all,
The wood effect parts have be prepared.
I used 'Windsor & Newton’ Griffin (Alkyd) Raw Sienna, Burnt Sienna and Van Dyke Brown oil paints to represent the different wood colours.
All will have weathering applied later once other details have been painted,

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Re: 1:32nd scale Nieuport XVII (17) C.1
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2022, 08:53:53 PM »
Oh, that is a nice progress. I especially like the wood tones. Looking forward to see more.
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