WNW Albatros D.V/Albatros D.Va Triple - and one more Jasta14 Albatros D.II

[atelier.brunt]

Hi Bertl

Fantastic work and craftsmanship!

I am new to the forum and have read through the whole post as this is exactly the kind of work (extreme attention to detail) that fascinates and motivates me! thanks for posting all the steps its very inspiring and motivating.

Will be following closely, keep up the great work and motivation!

[AngryJazz]

Yes! This will be exciting to watch the continuation of this project! 

[macsporran]

Superb detail work
Sandy

[Umlaufmotor]

Hello everyone,

Thank you very much for your kind comments. 
Yes, we are currently making some progress here (again), we'll see when the brakes are applied again. But hopefully not. 

The fuselage of the Jasta10 Albatros D.V is currently primed with Gunze "Radome".



In the meantime - just out of curiosity and to test it - I have bought an etching stencil with which the wood grain can be reproduced.
I have never used such stencils before.



To test how the wood grain looks painted with the stencil, I primed a landing gear axle of an Albatros D.V with Gunze "Radome" and then shaded it minimally with Tamiya "Desert Yellow".
The wood grain was then painted on thinly - also with "Desert Yellow".
A thin layer of "Burnt Siena" oil paint was applied over the painted wood grain using an approx. 3 mm wide brush.
This axle belongs to the black painted Albatros D.V D2263/17 Jasta 23b, Otto Kissenberth ..... yes, a fourth Albatros is being built 

Here is a comparison of the finished landing gear of the Jasta 10 D.V with the landing gear axle just mentioned.
Well, here the complete aging and the highlighting of the nail rows is still missing, but I think the pure difference wood grain only with oil paint to wood grain painted on and oil paint, is recognizable.

Jasta 23b Albatros D.V axle panel:





Jasta 10 Albatros D.V axle panel:





What do you think, which of the two axle panels looks better?
Please also consider the scale effect - too much of a good thing can also have a negative effect on the eye of the beholder.

Servus
Bertl

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[Dirigible-Al]

To be honest Beryl I would be delighted with either if it was my Albie but between the two the second one looks more realistic to me (Jasta 10).
Alan

[Jorgo]

Hi Bertl ! I also think that the handmade version without the stencil (Jasta 10) looks better. However, it would depend on a test to see how woodgrain would look with the template on the fuselage. Trial and error, Versuch macht klug.
It's great that you are continuing to work on the Albatros and that we can continue to marvel and enjoy it.
Greetings
Joerg

[Borsos]

Wonderful, Bertl.
But a fourth Albatros lengthens the time until you build the Halberstadt D. II. 

[PrzemoL]

Great progress again, Bertl.

As for my preferences for the wood grain, I consider your paint effort much much much more convincing than the effect of the PE stencil.

[richard.kiss]

To my eye, the second (Jasta 10) axle panel is the more beautiful, realistic and true to scale.

I also have PE templates from two manufacturers: two templates from Zoukei Mura 1/48 and the Artesinia Latina micro template. I have tried both and the problem is the too large scale wood grain.
They are completely unusable in 1/48 scale, but even in 1/32 scale the wood grain is huge. In 1/24 scale it's not bad, but the size of the wood grain is still not realistic.
The advantage of these PE templates is that you can imitate the wood grain effect much faster than with oil paint. The disadvantage, apart from the aforementioned oversize, is that it is easy to damage the PE fret when bending it over strongly curved surfaces (e.g. the fuselage of an Albatros) or when straightening it back. This makes it a very expensive tool.

[NigelR]

Jasta 10 one for me also. The templates are too obvious IMO. Painting allows you to achieve a more subtle and in scale effect IMO.

Lovely work on both though!

[Umlaufmotor]

@NigelR
@richard.kiss
@PrzemoL
@Jorgo
@Dirigible-Al

Hello, thank you very much for your feedback.
Basically you confirm my own opinion when I painted with the PE stencil.
In any case, I have come to the conclusion that I can do the wood grain with oil paint just like before - i.e. without the PE mask.
I think I could have saved myself the money.
But well, if I hadn't tried it I would probably still be thinking about whether or not.

@Borsos
Well, the Halberstadt is relatively far back in the series, Andreas.
I currently have a lot of models that have been started and are waiting to be finished.
See the construction reports started here in this and also in the German Flugzeugforum.

But, a little progress is being made everywhere.

Servus
Bertl

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[Umlaufmotor]

The albatross fuselage was treated further.
The rows of nail heads were shaded very thinly with Tamiya "Desert Yellow".
Also individual panels and various sheet metal fittings.







I also thinly overpainted some areas with white and yellow.





The joints and edges of the plywood panels are not yet shaded - here I will also apply thin layers of Tamiya Smoke and a little off-white.
Possibly also with a little Clear Yellow and Clear Orange .... we'll see.
I'm currently playing around a bit with the shading.

Interesting in the last picture is the glue joint at the bottom of the fuselage.
This was filled over several times with Tamiya filler and sanded over with 1000 grit wet sandpaper as a final step.
Nevertheless, this seam is easily visible here.
It seems that the filler has shrunk slightly in the two years that the fuselage has been sitting in the display case.



Servus
Bertl

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[NigelR]

Excellent work on the nails. A pity about the filler, it probably won't show under the wood grain effect.

[Umlaufmotor]

@NigelR

Yes, I think (I hope!) there will be no glue seams under the wood grain.

Servus
Bertl

[Umlaufmotor]

This thread describes the build report of the three Wingnut Wings Albatrosses.
Two D.Va and one D.V.
Well, a Roden Albatros D.I is also ?running? alongside.

I started with this model sometime in the 1st quarter of 2009.
It went well for a while, but some mistakes had crept in - apart from windsock data files, there was hardly any usable image material on the Internet at that time regarding the D.I.
At some point I put this model away because I got my hands on the first wingnut kits.
Well, three or four years ago, I had done a few hand-finishes on the model in between, but I didn't really fancy this model.

Now, between the Christmas holidays, the wind seems to have changed - as I continued building the three D.V/D.Va, I suddenly started to enjoy working on the D.I again.

But, sorry for the short digression - let's stick to the model:
The fuselage of the Roden Albatros D.I got its plywood grain today.
Not papered, so no decals - everything is painted by hand.
Base color Mr. Hobby "Radome".
The rows of nails were shaded very thinly with Tamiya "Desert Yellow".
Light fogging of various panels with Tamiya "Desert Yellow" and "Flat-White".
Some panel lines, the vent fittings, positions of the maintenance covers (i.e. where they will be located later) and areas underneath the engine which will receive traces of oil later in the construction phase were thinly shaded with Tamiya "Smoke".
99% of the wood grain was done with oil paint "Siena natural".
It was important that each panel was painted separately with wood grain.
The grain should therefore not overlap onto a neighboring panel.
Less oil paint makes the panel appear slightly lighter, with a little more oil paint - only slightly more - the wood grain appears denser and richer and makes the panel appear slightly darker.
In addition, some Siena Burnt was mixed into the Siena Natural in various places to obtain different color nuances of the grain.
So much for the current status.
Now it's off to the dry dock with the fuselage for a week.
The engravings on the individual wooden panels are a little deeper and wider on the Roden model than on the Wingnut.
That's why more oil paint accumulates there.
I suspect that you can save yourself a final wash with oil paint - although in real life the joints between the wooden panels on the Albatros are hardly visible.
Depending on the angle (e.g. from front to back), you often can't see these joints at all, as the wooden panels are mounted overlapping from front to back.
If you look from back to front, however, you can see the end edges of the panels on top - but ultimately they aren't joints.













Servus
Bertl

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