WNW Albatros D.Va rigging

[menright]

Hello,

I am about to receive a WNW D.Va in the post and my mind has turned to rigging.

My apologies in advance if some or all of these questions have been discussed on the forum,. There is a lot of information out there.

Specifically, for the D.Va
1. As this is my first attempt, I will probably only undertake the rigging on the main wings and leave the rest 'til later.
2. Rigging line: I have obtained some EZ Line fine charcoal 0.15mm thread for the task; the sample pack stuff.
3. which cyano? There are sites recommending the 'thin' and the 'thick'. In all ignorance I admit to not being sure just what to employ. There appear to be two forms of description for cyano: 'thin', 'medium' and 'thick' and 'slow', 'medium' and 'fast'. Assuming these are interchangeable terms, what would the forum members recommend?
4. drill bits: will a 0.5mm bit be sufficient?
5. also arriving at a later date is a WNW Rumpler C.IV and a DH2. For the British aircraft, I would like to use the thread recommended on the WNW site. Given that they seem to be in a long-ish term stock outage, are there recommendations on where both this and a full spool of the 0.15mm charcoal thread might be obtained?
Thanks,

Michael

[uncletony]

Eek, I'm the self appointed topic cop tonight...

Welcome aboard, however: This question belongs in "Hints Tips / Questions about modeling"

(Sorry to be a pita, but the mods have done a very good job of organizing categories here to make info easy to find; out of place threads just get lost to those coming later.)

For the basics, read thru the rigging and buckle tutorials on the main site. Des has done a fantastic job explaining the basics (and beyond).

Regarding your questions

1. Doesn't seem to be a question?
2. Ditto.
3. Regarding cyano: It comes in different viscosities which also have different setting properties. The variously described "thin", "runny", "instant" etc stuff works best when taking advantage of its weird capillary effect in which it runs into tiny cracks/voids and virtually sets on contact. When doing rigging, a drop on the line of a tight run of mono looped back thru a length of brass tube will set instantly.
4: Regarding drills: I suppose you can get away with just a .5mm drill, but I suggest you have more than one on hand -- you are tempting the carpet monster. .5mm is kinda big though...
5. Don't know... Maybe someone else does. A lot of folks are using .15mm 2lbs test Maxima Chameleon fishing line for 1/32 rigging.

[menright]

Bo,

Thanks for the advice.

Hints Tips / Questions eh? Sorry about that.

I will take a look at the tutorial.

Michael

[Whiteknuckles]

Hello and welcome Michael

Andrew

p.s. Bo is right - this forum has matured now to the point of having a lot of info relevant to your topic and Des's main site has many tutorials. Have a good look around and enjoy!!

[menright]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your kind message. Yes, I know Bo is right. And I'm sure you are too.

I will delve into the tutorials.

Regards,

Michael

[gcn]

Hello Michael and welcome.

There is a useful tutorial for rigging on this site but regarding your specific enquiries if ive understood them correctly I would:

Definitely rig the tail and undercarriage as well as the wings and I would tend to do the tail first.

I'd use 0.5mm od brass tube as a sleeve and either buy or make the eyelets (again tutorial on how to on the site)

With the ez line I'd do the top wing first before putting it on the struts and I'd loop the ez line through the sleeve, through the eyelet and back through the sleeve. This is harder to do then using monofilament as it is more flexible. Then dab a small amount of extra thin CA at the non eyelet end to secure. A good tool to use is a needle with the eye cut out to form a u shape.

Install the wings and thread the line through another sleeve and then through the eyelet on the bottom wing, you don't need to loop it back through the sleeve. Hold line with tweezers ensuring you are happy with the angles of the sleeve and apply extra thin CA to the top and bottom of the sleeve. Trim ez line.

Hope that makes sense.

[menright]

Hello gcn,

Thank you for your post.

It does make sense and you have solved the cyano conundrum for me.

I have read the rigging tutorial. As this is a first attempt, I will forgo the turnbuckles and eyelets. I am sure this process is superior but I am not easy with my capabilities and will defer to the EZ Line being attached directly into the hole. I did read somewhere, I think in a Windsock publication, that WNW might be bringing out slip-on turnbuckles for the approach I am considering. Should this be the case, I will be glad when they do.

I appreciate your help,

Michael

[michael]

Hello Michael,

if you go to you tube and type in uschi van der rosten

he has a great video on showing you how to rig using EZ line

sorry for not having a link - i'm a bit computer illiterate and don't know how to post links 

anyhow i hope this helps 

cheers
michael

[menright]

Hello Michael,

and thank you for the lead.

That is a very, very good audio-visual explanation of rigging with the turnbuckles and the eyelets, ideal for the kinesetic learner with the usual learning disabilities such as me. Why wasn't French and Chemistry taught that way back in the early sixties? Oh well.

The link is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJGTPovCcg8

and his site, which is to say the least quite bespoke and eccentric and very informative is

uschivdr.com

Thanks again,

Michael

[Whiteknuckles]

Great video Michael, thanks for the link.
It's always good to 'see' things!

Andrew

[pepperman42]

Everytime I watch that video I hold my breath too...sometimes I have to look away!!

Steve