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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2022, 01:30:07 PM »
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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2022, 04:55:57 AM »
3d printing certainly adds another dimension to scratch building. I wish I had the patience and time to learn and execute it. The possibilities are obviously unlimited and the result as you show us here, are incredibly detailed.

You are certainly raising the bar Hugh, and this can only turn into a fabulous BE2c!

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2024, 10:44:25 AM »
Greetings all.

This is still on my mind and in the planning phase.  It stalled because the weather got too cold and my Resin printer didn't want to play.

Recently went to my storage unit and pulled it apart searching for my reference drawings and the package of drawings for the engine which I could have sworn were for the RAF1a, but it turns out they were for the Renault 70hp (The same engine Beto modeled in 1/8 and 1/32 scale).  Not sure I want to go and redo all of his good work, given the awesome detail he has managed to replicate in his solid models.  And they print up just fine.  Trouble is, I;m now wondering whether I want to do this in 1/16 rather than in 1/24?  Or is that really too much of a space hog?

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Hugh

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2024, 12:54:10 PM »
Both, maybe?

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2024, 02:07:12 PM »
Both, maybe?

Do the 1/24 with solid cored flying surfaces and the 1/16 as open frame work?  I like the sound of that.

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Hugh

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2024, 08:11:29 AM »
The larger you plan to build it, the more detail you'll want to replicate. And then you find needing to upscale it to fit all the detail you want... and then comes the endless search for blueprints of every single piece of the airframe. Finally you settle for 1/8th scale, redraw lots of plans... until you find you NEED to go to the National Archives in London just to dig into the contents of a mysterious box called "Avia14", where the original plans of the B.E.2 series is stored. That's the point where I am now, after finishing a pretty beautiful Renault engine that now resides in a small showcase waiting for a model to be built around it.

Sometimes I imagine myself arriving to the National Archives in a way that resembles the warehouse in Raiders of the Lost Ark, opening the "Avia14" box and finding it empty, just with a note that reads: "Greetings from Sir P.J."  ;D

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2024, 05:58:06 PM »
Hello Hugh,

Great project, and I am following with interest.

I don't remember who shared them with me, but I have 44 (high resolution photographs of) factory drawings of the Be2a and 6 of the Be2c.

Please PM me if you are interested.

Willem

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2024, 05:04:55 PM »
The larger you plan to build it, the more detail you'll want to replicate. And then you find needing to upscale it to fit all the detail you want... and then comes the endless search for blueprints of every single piece of the airframe. Finally you settle for 1/8th scale, redraw lots of plans... until you find you NEED to go to the National Archives in London just to dig into the contents of a mysterious box called "Avia14", where the original plans of the B.E.2 series is stored. That's the point where I am now, after finishing a pretty beautiful Renault engine that now resides in a small showcase waiting for a model to be built around it.

Sometimes I imagine myself arriving to the National Archives in a way that resembles the warehouse in Raiders of the Lost Ark, opening the "Avia14" box and finding it empty, just with a note that reads: "Greetings from Sir P.J."  ;D

That's a really good point Beto and one that has crossed my mind.  I have a huge roll of drawings that I purchased about...  15 years ago with AVIA14 printed all over them.  So I suspect I have the detail drawings you're referring to.  The package of drawings I have for the Engine is also the same reference you used for your sensational files.  I'v been using my lunch breaks to start the same in Solidworks.  In one complete assembly though.  And in some areas not as detailed as your files are. But it gives my mind exercise in what is otherwise a very tedious work day.  I;m also trying to teach my self FreeCad, so I can work on all the details while I watch tely in the evenings, but it's so different to Solid Works, I have to say, I'm struggling.

Not sure at my time of life I can be bothered with the detail required to satisfactorily complete a 1/16 scale model, let alone a 1/8.
So I guess I'll start with the 1/24 build, see if I'm able to finish it before I'm too old/infirm/blind to do so and then decide whether I want to embark on the 1/16 version.

I'd really like to see photos of your finished 1/8 engine by the way.

And, although I suspect it might be a breach of IP on the part of the vendor I purchased the package of drawings from, I'm more than happy to wander over to the local print shop and get them scanned...  For limited sharing with my friends.  Or does the IP rest with the National Archives?  In which case, I guess they are in the public domain?

And in other news, this morning I picked up a second hand Anycubic Mono 4K.  The files I printed at the start of this thread were done on a three year old 2K Mono.  I know, You can get affordable 8 and 10K machines now, but well... 

Cheers,

Hugh



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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2024, 05:08:42 PM »
Hello Hugh,

Great project, and I am following with interest.

I don't remember who shared them with me, but I have 44 (high resolution photographs of) factory drawings of the Be2a and 6 of the Be2c.

Please PM me if you are interested.

Willem

Do they have AVIA14 emblazoned on them?  If So, I think they might be scans of the drawings Beto and I have.

Cheers,

Hugh

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Re: RAF BE2c 1/24 Scale (Speculative, long term project)
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2024, 05:21:50 PM »
Yes, they have in the right hand lower corner.

So I think you guys are alright there  :)